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@Raimond: Almost you said. Thats the difference. Innitially, I toyed with him.
He is younger and I have no reason to be caustic like him. He and my children are in
the same age group. Even now thatI throw caution in the wind, concerning him, am
still mindful of the gap between he and me. I will never go to the point of behaving
like him, in the tone of his speech. Hardly can he touch me. Maybe from your point
of view, yes. And in the future say exactly what you intent. Don't allow anyone to
come up with what they think you may mean, because you were no direct in the beginning.

However, as you wait for the rapture machines to pick you up, you should never
forget there have been scores of generation that did the same in vain.

True talk, brother! The guy's ming is set like CONCRETE and aint nuffing u can do about it. he needs the touch of JEHOVA!

@real_demi, your statement above is partially true. But your fallacy comes when you inserted Jehovah. My heart is set against
lies and liars. That is the issue here. I have no problem with my belief and the fact that your belief is different. But do not sell
me a bill of goods. I do not need a man-God or God-man. Take your pick. It is the same.

@MP007: If you are in line for Rapture, it is the other lines, over there. Run
along. Unfortunately, just like the late Jerry Farwell, you will wait and wait, until
will catch up to you. Stop that nonsense. You should know better.

If Davidylan is baited long enough, he will bite. Don't worry, he will
grow up and then realise that Qaliq (Creator) can never be Maqluq (Created).

Man is Created and can never be God. When David can recognise this distinct
diffrerence, then he will begin to have doubt in his heart. It is only a matter of time.

@Backslider: For starter, go and study Hadith Qulsi. Then come back for more instruction.

@Raimond: Big deal about Bible's episode of would be anger of Peter!

Is Muhammad, the Prophet of Allah in Sudan right now to calm the situation?

@Davidylan: You did not take into account that some rocks may have, air
pockets and faults/cracks. You may be suprised how much water can be taken in.
The problem is that you did not even try at all. That is a terrible quality in you.

So give you your answers tomorrow, or as soon as you can. I know the exams
come in later in NY state, so you can use this as your preparatory for the real thing.

Am a patient man. I will wait for you. You may even be slower than I expected.

@Davidylan: You have no answer. So it became a waste of time.
Tomorrow, I will educate you in what you even failed to make
some attempt in; How Muhammad and Moses are like and
Jesus is not, all from spiritual/religious take on the verse Deut 18;18.

@Davidylan: Lakpene is busy with other equally matters. You know, some of us
are not been fed anymore by our parents. And some of us are parents and
the sole bread winners. Alhamdulillah, you and you and you can do nothing to
shake him. I know him well.

Tell me how Jesus is like Moses. Moses a prophet who never claimed to be more than just that.

@Davidylan: To proof me wrong David, go to your Bible. Then read up on Genesis. Oh
thats Old Testament, which is for the Jews. The many prophets of the Jews in the Old
testament, never at anytime, preached of a son or Man-God combination and never
the three in One deal. No wonder you did not know that Abraham lived for the most
part in Jerusalem. And Jerusalem was in the land of the Philistines.

Jacob was the grandson of Abraham. Yet Jacob was the Patriarch of the Children of
Israel. The Jew, as a tribe came out of the children of Israel, through Judah, a first
generation, Children of Israel. David I could lecture about the Jews, but thats not
the issue here. You see in every people, we have good and bad. I have lost many
business opportunities for just being known as a Nigerian.

Yet, the evil doers among the Nigerians, worldwide is not more than 2 million people.
We are at least 160 million people. 2 out of 160, is a very less than 2%. Yet the remaining 98% suffer.

It is very easy for you to blind yourself with the drunkenness of religion!

@Davidylan: Look man. I love you and even thou and no christian, I did this for you man.
SO I WENT TO BIBLE.COM to help you learn your religion; You, ' !'

Genesis 21:32 (Whole Chapter)
After the treaty had been made at Beersheba, Abimelech and Phicol the commander of his forces returned to the land of the Philistines.

Genesis 21:34 (Whole Chapter)
And Abraham stayed in the land of the Philistines for a long time.

Actually, did you see what Senator Charles Grassey is doing with the Televangelist? It was on
CNN, yesterday.

@Davidylan: I am very shocked at your narrow of understanding truth. But I
will excuse you, of displaying clear ignorance. You may be blinded by rage in
effort to win at all cause, all is fair in way. That is your slogan; But here, from
what the Mufti stated, we see that he was talking about his people's plight
under some form of abuse by the Jews and their monies, even at that time.

Further, from the tone of the letter of Himmler, one will see that it addressed the Issue
of Palestine, directly. The place you dishonoringly said did not have any noticeable
population of Arab and was when it was called palestine, it was referring to the Jews!

David, you can never be honorable, if you lie this openly. Be shameful at least. Did you
know that the plkace was known as Palestine even before the Children of Israel were
emancipated by Allah from Egypt, through the leadership of Moses? Have you ever heard
of the people called philistines? Where was there homeland, before the Children of Israel
conquered Jerusalem, Jericho, etc?

The affairs of world Islam, is alway sent to Makka and Madina, and not Jerusalem, duuh!

Finally, you did not even have the gul to show me the Islamic youth movement as you did
emptyly promised. Okay, anyone will remember the Rothchild and Prescott Bush involvement
with the 3rd Reich. Rothchild banking family are Jewish. has anyone accused the Jews trying
to exterminate themselves, because of this relation of Rothchild Banking family?

Has anyone accused the whole of the USA because of this relationship with Prescott Bush?

In both cases no. But anyone did, it would have been considered dishonest! Your assertion to
paint Islam in this case is even more pathetic. Good night, John Boy.

@Cgift: I love to play with you. You aint gonna speak in tongue, no way
no how, even if you get in on the shelf. You are too playful, even as a christian!

@Davidylan: You are openly naive sometimes. Rightfully so. You will
grow out of it, in due course. Should it always that the first wife must have the
first child? If you are older than a person, I am assuming that you are the only
child from your personality, even then are you not the older brother? How can the
younger becomes the older, except in your Christian Esau/Jacob episode. And
we should not forget it was through deceit, in which the mother colluded with her
lazier son, to gain an advantage from a blind father over another son who is more
hardworking!


Is this what you are proud of! You ' ' Am tired of writing it. But get the idea.

@Davidylan: You are the student, still. I was honest. The Crusade did not happen in Europe.
It took off from Europe to kill muslims in Palestine. It is you who should stop disgracing your
history teacher. Even though I hated history in school.

Please show me the proof of the involvement of the Grand Mufti of 'Jerusalem' direct involvement
in the NAZI effort against the Jews of Europe. And while you are at it, do not forget to provide
the evidence of NAZI's muslim wing. Both must proof that they were there because they were
fighting for Islam. Anything less is no good, you 'evil generation.' you.

David you make me laugh. But no too much, please. Excessive laughter reduces Iman in the HEART.

Davidylan: Why are you deflecting the essence of the thread?
Is it because you wished it was never posted, or tha topic is a
nutcracker?

@Davidylan; Lol. I love you very much. But your Jesus thing, that was lame!

If Jesus, too know best, there should never have been any crying out as he did
on the cross. The cry of 'My God, My God, why has that forsaken me?' indicated
limited knowledge about this event. Otherwise the cry could be viewed as a
result of weak faith, for starter in oneself.

The forsaken part of that sentence speaks volume. But I will leave that till later date.
But the God part shows that God is truly more powerful than Jesus.

I have already spoken on the why part, in the first paragraph above. Aburo, get going on
your studies. You have no understanding of your christian religion. All you do is yell.
Ma sick. Eso pele.

Just for fun, you did not know that Lut was a prophet? Was he the one visited by the angels
and throw him the sodomites were warned, refused and destroyed?

What I have just shown you in my listing of the prophets is this: Not all of the
Prophets are from the children of Judah (the father of the Jews), who was a bother
to Prophet Joseph! If Abraham was considered a Jew by your understanding of lineage, then
your great, great, grandfather was davidylan. I use davidylan to satnd in place of Jew in the
life of Abraham. Think about it, 'evil generation!'

@Klarry79: As much as I agree with you in some, I also
disagree with you in so many many other ways:

Islam is about the most radical and violent religion that we know of today and yet it screams peace.

Where is compassion, where is tolerance, where is peace, where is GRACE. (By the grace of God, you are still alive, Allah is tolerating you even though you say is 1 of 3. And He is the most compassionate and by so doing choose a religion that has a root word from SALAAM.)

How many buddhists/hindus have you seen blowing up mosques, (Evidently you did not know about the Kujurrat slaughter of Muslims, in the resent years)

How many Jews have blown up Germans, How many Christians have strapped bombs to themselves (That is the most surprising thing about the Jews! They did not see fit to take over Germany and Austria after 2nd WW. They came to bother the people who did not help in killing them!)

and blown up bus loads of people, how about the chinese and japanese religions (we don't even hear them); (Of course, the Chinese and the Japanese were helped out of their decayed condition. Why? Probably because they easily could be secularised. They do not care about God. But Unlike the Muslims especially, when they say that there is no God but Allah and Jesus is not God, but only a mere messenger)

you guys know these things but cannot help it because you are all trapped in it. (Trapped in what dear brother? Islam encourages individual thinking. There is no allowance for blind acceptance of the improbable)

Some will quickly dismissed the 2 world wars, where scores of African lost their lives for no direct benefit to the african nations. Further will forget the extreme cruelty of slavery, still going on in the psyche of the africans, in africa and even those who are in the diaspora, eg Black Americans, etc. I will not even talk about the CRUSADES and the Spanish inquistions, where Muslims and Jews were killed off or the choice was to convert to Christianity. Want more?

@Backslider: Isra wa Miraj, took place in just some part of one Night!
Now you come to ask me to guide you to each and everyone of the hadith
that will cover at least 23years, in which this Isra wa Miraj occurred? Please
be reasonable. If you have an agenda, which you are yet to tell us,
please just say it now. Again your heart will guide you to the correct hadith
if you have a pure heart.

Now my friend, post something positive about Islam.

@Nwando; I have seen the video before. The woman is courageous.
The men being Arabs and claiming to be Muslims will not translate to
being so.

Yesterday, I was just told that in some part of Nigeria, some people, who
making their Jumu'ah prayer will rush to become Mascurades! What people
say and what they truly do, if it is different from the foundamental essence
of Islam, they are at best weak and need help. But in worst case, hypocritical.

blabs, all your above piffle is just to avoid the real question:

I have just one question for you -WHY DID ALLAH CHOOSE ALL HIS PROPHETS FROM THE LINEAGE OF ISAAC? Didnt the same allah curse the jews? Didnt you all tell us that Ishmael was the child of promise?

you shld be ready to thrash out this contradiction first! (David, why didn't Allah chose His prophets from India, or China, or whatever? He does what He wills. He chose the children of Israel, okay you like to call them Jews, and blessed them with so many prophets for a term. Then He chose the last and the best to cover the whole word with the MESSAGE OF Laa illaha ilallah, from ISmail, which is the bloodline of Muhammad (as))

@Davidylan: Please omo boy, don't blow any fuse while at it. You still have
plenty to do for Nigeria.

Allah saved the best for last. He brought Muhammad from ISMAIL, instead of
ISIAQ descendants. Apply the same wisdom to why he chose a tongue twister
and a fugitive, in the personality of Moses and then he brought a fatherless child
through a young girl into prominence, gentle and a confirmed bachelor in the
personality of Jesus son of Mary. Such is the Power of God. He does what He wills.

TRULY, HE IS KABIYESI.

@the poster, back at you, too.

@DAvidylan: If Jesus did not curse them and from you maybe a warning, then
when I intend to warn you I will call you 'Evil generation.' That will the warning
code between you and me, Okay? I do not want to call you son of belial, because
I really will upset you, but not warning you.

@Davidylan: Hear it again for the last time: First quantity does not
necessary mean quality. Further the first does not mean the best.

Muhammad (as), is the last and final Messenger of GOD. MUhammad was
sent to the whole world. He was not a tribal prophet. End of story.

Finally, he was from ISMAIL! That is the decision of God!

Now answer those questions. happy trails.

@Davidylan: A quiz for you, was Adam a Jew?
How about Noah?
What about Ibrahim?
And Lut?
Ismael?
Isiaka?
Yakuub?
Yusuf? Mind you, one of his brothers was name Judah.
Moses, a levite or from the tribe of Judah?
What about his brother Haruun?

David do you know that after King and Prophet Solomon died and after the reign of his
son, or so, The territory of the children of Israel was divided to Israel and Judah, simply
by tribal heritage alone? Wouldn't this simply tell you that the Children of Israel are more than the
mere Jew, from the tribal authentic tradition of it.

Just as I am writing you this post, one of the children of Israel called me, as it is weekly tradition to do so.
I pklayfully tell him about what I am writing, that the Jews as a tribe is not truly the sum total of
the children of Israel. Please answer my many earlier questions about Deut 18;18 and The 3 prophets
that were asked from John son of Zachariah and the same questions served up to Jesus son of Mary.
What were their individual answers? And are both in agreement on each points? Who were the persons
that fulfilled the 3 expected prophets?

My honest, best and ONLY answer is this: Muhammad is enough from the Arabs to serve as the GUIDING LIGHT
for all mankind!

@Davidylan:

Alhaji too much noise! You say the hajj and salah is based on Ismail and none of the isrealite prophets. Now is allah not a confused hypocrite?
why then are ALL his so-called "prophets" Jews?? NOT A SINGLE prophet from Ismail's descendants?                                                                                  

(Davidylan, Allah served up the best for last, in the
person of His and my beloved Muhammad bin Abdallah, Al Hashim, Al Quraish. May Allah make the light of guidance enter your heart. Amiin. Allah does and chooses as He pleases. Take the case of Moses, he was a fugitive and a tongue twisted man, withonly a stick to enact all the miracles. In the case of Jesus, it was a man who had no father, hence the best of the Jews were accusers of his mother to be a fornicator or worse an adulterer, yet all his miracle was without any external object, like Moses.  David, you avoid all the questions and you serve up a full plate all the time. Why, uh? Answer the questions when you are asked, old boy.)

And Allah cursed the Jews, for their evilness. No one can asked Him about what He does. Only if that person is a full and eager to be doomed. By the way, didn't the 'word' which became flesh said that the Jews were evil generation? Why don't you use the same yardstick to ask foolishly why would the 'word' that when he was a Jew himself? Notice how we refer to the'word' in past tense, but God in the present!

@Martin007:If the 'WORD' became flesh and dwell with us, please tell me, what
happened to the ONE WHO SPOKE THE WORD?

1. Did He not have any ability to Speak in the maintime, Yes or No?
2. Did His further utterances have not the same value as the 'Word' that became flesh?
3. Now that His word has became flesh, has His power of authority gone, diminished or the same?
4. Did His word by becoming flesh became the power instead of the speaker?
5 Between the Speaker and the Word that became flesh, which is truly the Master?
6 When the word died, did the Speaker who spoke the Word died also?
7. When the Word was on the Cross was the Speaker also?
8 When the Word was being tried by the people and the authority,, the Speaker also?

My man, I have tons of questions, and we can do this all day and ll night. Please answer
each and every one from your conscience, not from your head/tongue, so as to safe face.

@Alexis; If as a Muslim named my dog Paul, and while walking it in Manhattan,
dare to call its name, and people realised its the Biblical Paul is who i name it after,
I meant, I better be
                                ready to sprint like Carl Lewis, at his prime! With all the
repressed anti-Islam out, who can be sure of what some wackos will do?
I know what I go through sometimes when I go
for Jumu'ah Prayer. Oh sure
                                             they may not wear their dislike on their forehead,
but you feel it! Which part of the
                                                     world are you again? Welcome to America!

@cgift; The folks in your office must have a thick skin. Maybe thicker than the elephant's.
Am just kidding with you. You are alright, holding down a job. If only you can hold
down a religion that will benefit the same way.

@FBS; Mdsocks' disagreement with me, should tell you that we in Islam are not the drone
that you making us to be. We are individuals. With different temperaments. Unlike the others,
who could be best described by Fela's old time record titled, 'follow follow.' Had enough?

@The Poster; You are probably a rebel rouser! Why go for everything anti Islam, when your
Uncle is even a Muslim? Rest him, please. lol.

@Davidylan:

Quote from: Lakpenne on Today at 02:15:14 AM
what Allah likes is that he alone is worshipped -


Shango also likes this, Ifa, Ogun, the Hindu cows . . they all that they alone be worshipped. Why is allah crying to be treated specially? (So does your Man-God. He also cried that he be treated specially. But unashamely, you said that he died on the cross. Is that not a sign of weakness for a God?)

@Davidylan:

You dishonest sons of belial think that by much talking you can go around the issues?
Qur'an 9:30 "And the Jews say: ‘Uzair (Ezra) is the son of God, and the Christians say: the Messiah is the son of God. That is their saying with their mouths, resembling the saying of those who disbelieved aforetime. Allah Curse them! [Allah fight them!] how they are deluded away from the truth!

And you turn around and claim the biblical Jewish mighty men as your own "prophets"? Allah has serious issues!
Of course you wont "get my point" . . . the minute you do your religion built entirely on falsehood crashes like a pack of cards.

You celebrate salah . . . based on the attempted sacrifice of ishmael by the islamic abraham . . . why then is islam entirely built around the descendants of Isaac and not ishmael? Come back to tell me you don't "get my point" like you hypocrites do when the quran has run out of lies to tell.

David, you think through, you will know that the process of Hajj, for starter, is based on Ibrahiim, Ismail and Hagars experiences. Secondly, the salah is
is not based on any of the israelite prophets. At least, not the five salah the muslims perform daily. The Zakah is also very different. The fasting is also different. I will not go into that because I will make fun of you. And I know that I do not want to start with that this morning. The Jewish fast of today is sundown to sundown. Muslims do not fast that way. We Muslims in One God, who is invisible and restricts Himself from doing somethings that do not befit His majesty. In every case you are 100% incorrect.

The Jewish mighty prophets are individuals, and they do not represent the individual conscience of the individual persons in the Jewish race. David your argument is not broadbased. You do not see anything with the inner mind. A prophet has no power to guide the heart, but is given the power and support to deliver the Blueprint of guidance. The revelations and instructions they are commanded to deliver is just that, a Blueprint. The children of Israel had multitude of chances to accept guidance. So did and some did not.

Your problem at this stage of your life is that your gear is stuck and you can shift it out of No. 1. If yiu live long enough, and I pray that you will, there is still a lot of living to do. Just maybe th light of guidiance may enter your heart. I WILL NOT GIVE UP HOPE ON YOU.

@Cgift: Right. You read my mind, exactly. You have even graduated to the
level of Jesus of the Bible. You have even become higher and better. Afterall
there is a verse in the Bible that says that you might even do a bigger miracles,
if you believe in Jesus. So my brother in Ikorodu, what am I doing by the time you
are reading this post? What kind of clothing am I wearing and how many people in
immediate area?

If you don't know it 100%, which I am sure you will not be able to do, then you are
a dishonest person and living in delusion. You should quite your religion and come to
where there is no arrogance and one depends sole on God the Almighty.

@FSB; If you have any form of education, even primary school, did you not know that
you have to be sometimes read between the lines? Was your head split open and the
put the little amount of knowledge you have in it? You can think beyond the four corners
of the page? If your type of knowledge and resources are what is available to Nigeria's
future, then we are yet to hit the bottom!

All of you try so much to deflect the topic, just because you can not in good conscience
present any valid argument, why you accept that God must be one. And He will do everything,
even so imitate His creation so much so that He came down on earth. And the only purpose
He did come to the earth was to be able to learn about the difficulties He had imposed on them,
one one hand so that He may know how to forgive them. But then He also came to die for their
sins, by the way of cruxificion.

One is left to wonder, if just coming to learn about this earthly way is not enough for Him to know
that he need to be lenient and overlook the major and minor sins of His creations,in the day of
Judgement? Why does He have to die, in addition to the earthly experience? It seems to a thinking
mind that each of these two events, the dying and the earthly experience, is wholly enough to
guarantee Paradise to any one who believes in just one of the events. Yet the Christians can tell
us that everyone of them will enter Paradise. There is no guarantee of it in the Bible. If there is
one wonders what happens to a man or woman who died while committing adultery, or any of the
other major sins, eg, murdering of innocent people, eating up the properties of orphans, consuming
interest and all kinds of evil acts?

Will this Man-God forgive all of these or what?

@mdsocks: Salaamualaykum. And Jazakallahu Khair.
Don't pay attention to the likes of Skyone. He has no manners.