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Stop your prayers. It will never work. You pray through the blood of a man weak enough to be seazed by a band of raghead Jews. He could not defend himself when it really came down to it, but you claimed forgave those hunged with him and those who hunged him. Yet, his companion of so many years, who simply betrayed him, according to his own prediction died and all of you Christians and even him, could not seek nor were merciful enough to forgive him!

Never will I became a Christian! By Allah, I am a propagator of Islam,seeking your conversion, from disbelief to belief, in One true God.

I laughed just reading your prayer just above. Unfortunately for you and Alhamdulillah, for me, my Lord did not accept your prayer. InshaAllah, He will not from His Mercy accept that prayer, for me or any other Muslim. You see Jesus was nothing but a human being like me. Yes, his birth was miraculous,a nd performedgreat miracles. That was because he was a true prophet of his Lord, Allah Almighty.

I pray that my Iman increases. Maybe, I must have shown weak Iman and thats why you prayed. It is you who who that must connect to your Creaator, without an intermediary, like a pagan or idol worshipper!

@Davidylan: It has come to propaganda, eh, David? O ga o! I remember you saying that all is fair in War, within the last three week, in your trying to respond to a post. E mi o mo wipe o le to bayi. I thought we will all rise above the dirty tricks. Especially, the Christians are always lovers and not fighters. And never do the fight for God, because God can do all His fights, while you all are on the side line, as spectators, cheering Him on! But this time, you could not wait to just get into it, with the Muslims, throwing the first punch, to end the battle as quickly, you went so far to employ all means in your reach. Throwing in the wind, all forms of decency and fairplay!

I was going to answer one of the questions on the interesting foolish list, from the answering Islam garrrrbaaaaage, that Nwando posted. Then, I saw your post above. Anyway, let me answer, according to my heart. Let us tackle first, what came from Nwando; I have a mother who gave me birth. That is my one true biological mother. My grandmother,(ra), my mother's mother, suckled me. And my cousins, the children of my mother's younger sister, were also suckled by her. By my suckling from my mother's mother, she became my foster mother, by her wet nursing me. All the children she suckled thereby became my sisters and brothers. She is my second mother, while my mother is the first. My father (ra), true to form had more than one wife. Infact, my mother was the last and the youngest of them. All my father's wife are my third set of mothers. My father went into them, in the same manner he went into my mother.

These wives of my father, were also the biological mothers of my brothers and sisters, the other children of my father. Is any of these women permissible for me, even if they were in my age group or I am even older than them? The answer is capital NO! I do not know about you, the answers are very clear. So a person may have one mother, the biological one. Even Jesus, had this in common with all the children of Adam and Hawa. A person may have another or both sets of mothers, as from wet nursing and stepmotherhood, in addition, to the biological mother.

To your question about Adam, our father and the first man: His wife's name is Hawa. A lot of Muslim women bear that name. It is written in the Hadith and in the story of the prophets, Adam's story. He was created on Friday, after Salatul Asr and before salatul magrib. The third and fourth Islamic prayers of every day. (IN Yoruba language; Irun alasare ati irun magiribi). Why was he created? He was created as viceroy of the earth. He and his children, which include you and me. Really, to be overlord and caretake all that are on earth. To worship the One True God, proclaiming His Lordship, calling all to do good and shunning evil. As this is a test, the ones who passed the test, by God's Mercy, will be rewarded with paradise, and the others, because of their failure in this test, will receive God's justice and end up in hellhire. This is according to the WILL of God, alone. Oh, and Adam was created in Paradise. So was his wife, Hawa, after him.


Their first set of children, from a single birth, were twin boys, where one killed the other because of jealousy. One is named Kabila, and right now, there is no need for me to give you the second name, of the one who was killed. The killing occurred, after both were matured and the second bith, who were twin girls girls, were also mature. They were supposed to marry each other. The reason for the killing is related to the beauty of one girl in relativity to the other, and who was matched up with who in marriage.They had additional One single birth, after this killing and then 18 twin birth after it. So in reality, they had 20 twin birth and 1 single boy birth. By gender, excluding the male who was killed, the remainig were 20 men and 20 women, Each married the opposite sex, from the set of birth next to his/her own, but never married his or her own birth mate.

Allah created Adam, by the simple command of Kun fa ye kun, (Be and so it is). I know you will have problem with this process, so I will make it elementary for you. First God decreed it, and immediately the decree went into effect. The Angels were aware of some future creating by them being informed of it by their Lord. So the materials, soil and water, from the earth were gathered, and brought to paradise. It was mixed and formed into the shape of man. It was left to cure as long as it pleased Allah the Creator! At this time, Iblis, who later became Shaitan, began to be curious and investigate this lifeless shape, just laying there. He struck this object and it gave a hollow sound. He realised he must investigate to know what is inside this shape. He found an opening, and he went inside.

He saw the inside was empty. he realised that this object or being in the long run must be weak. You see davidylan, all along, Adam was a trial for Iblis. God knew the true nature of Iblis, even though Iblis seen by the Angels as an obedient Jinn. When Adam was made alive my breadthing of spirit, which is the soul in Mankind, into him, all the Angels and the Iblis the Jinn, were commanded to bow to Adam. All the Angels bowed, in their total obedience to God's commandment! However, Iblis the Jinn did not bow, in disobedience to God, because of his pride and arrogance mature toward this new being, Adam. So my man, disobedience to God is both false pride in nature and the arrogance of baseless superiority of the heart.

I hope I have answered your question. It is now time for you to take the kalimatul Shahada tain; Laa illaha illala, Muhammandanr rRasulullah, wa Isa bin Mariam Rasulullah.

@Nwando: You disappoint me by going to those crazies again. These are liars. Just to answer one of the silly questions on the list; Adam is the first Muslim, among man. Islam is a religion of Muslims. Muslim is a one who submits. When he sins, he seeks forgiveness as soon as he recognises that a sin has been committed. He offers a sincere repentance, so as not to fall into the same time of sin, in the future. So he remembers God and supplicates God always. He is also patient in time of adversity. There are many aspects to Islam. Inshort he, is a believer and upright in his belief. He is a Mumiin or Hanifan.In the time of Ibrahiim, he was the first Muslim of his time. In the time of Moses, he was the first Mumiin of his time. Muhammad was also the first Muslim of his time, which extends all the way to our time and further, till the last generation of mankind on earth.

For all your other matters, which you are so curious about, please check tafsir ibn Kathir on Google. You will find resolve on your satanic verses, abrogated text?, mathematical errors, Na you sabi. I beg I dey go sleep. Zaynab is waiting. LOL.

@Davidylan; I hope you know the difference between true Islam and whatever a people think it is. Just because Makka and Madina, are the two cities associated with Islam of the last Mesenger, Muhammad ibn Abdullah (as), is not an indicator, that all people from these two cities carry great belief.

I am very familiar with Mauritania. I have many friends from that country who are very political and vocal about the injustices of the leadership and people in authority, oppressing, in various degrees, those who are weak, and under their control. All of these are injustices and True Islam of Muhammad opposes all kind of unjusts.

I can not broad stroke Christianity of today or of the past with the evil behaviour of individuals, groups or nations, claiming Christianity. Instaed, I will look at your Book and the individual that christians claim to follow, with that I will determine if that a good Christian entity.

The same should apply to Muslims. The Qur'an gave injuctions about fair dealing and justice towards one another. Muhammad (as), is the leading example for the muslims. How good a Muslim is should be determined by these two standard bearers.

@Nwando: I went to your above site, which you think cleared up the issue of contradiction in the Bible. Please do not be gullible. The man gave the usual song and dance of misprint and misunderstanding, as reason for the gazillion contradicting verses in the Bible. Wow, what a lame excuse! If it were to be accepted, the writers of the Bible, along with the Print Press personnels, all of them, must have completely lost their sights! How many printing Presses? All of them and all the time.

And you fall for this? You should be angry that your Bibles, from at least, quoting from your site's argument, from the 7th century, have been going through the instability of poor writers and Printing Presses mistakes. And Muhammad pointed this out to you, since then. A period of over 14 century have lapsed, yet, there is no change!

This alone should prove to anyone with a spiritual feeling, that Muhammad (as), is a truly a Messenger of God! What he said then, still holds true, today.

@Nwando: I am disappointed with the Politicians, Kings, Emirs and Emirates, including Presidents and Prime Ministers of the so called Muslim nations. If they are not helping others to kill and or oppressed their brothers and sisters in Islam, they are doing it themselves or turning loose others to do their dirty jobs!

All my friends and associates, have expressed complete disgust with the way the young Arab woman is being treated. There is no portion of the Qur'an, or the Hadith, that permits or encourage rape or any illegal sexual act, as a virtuous or nonpunishable deed. The surprise is that the coward men, are left standing, and whatever their punishment, is cumulatively pale to the humiliation and direct punishment of this poor woman.

There is no justification for the rape. Even if she was naked and had cat-called them to it. They should have been above the frail and fight the temptation. The same men who perpetrated this heinous crime on this woman, will wish any man dead, if it were their women folk. I do not know how best I can express my unhappiness and sadness. It is very hard for me to even discuss it.

@Davidylan: Please pay attention to the line 7 from the bottom, of the third paragraph from the bottom. The phrase is that Jesus brought them clear proof to show his prophethood. This goes along with the stopping the people from being stoned to death.

@Nwando: You should petition, the dishonest politicians of Nigeria. If it is truly that they fear Allah, they should have applied the Shariah, accrosee the board and not only to the poor and unprotected citizens! As Allah has stated very clearly in His Glorious Qur'an, the hypocrites, in Islam, will be at the bottom in the fire of hell!

However, this should not prevent you from accepting guidance. You should be concern with your own soul.

@Davidylan: May Almighty grant you paradise, by softening your heart, so that it can receive guidance. It was persistant request that you be told how to access the Stories of the prophets, that prompted me to google it. Under it, you will find the prophets listed, and there are many writers of Islam, who penned materials, concerning the subject. Under Isa bin Mariam, (as), the below is about his process of how he was able to wrestle the poor woman who was accused of adultery, from the clutch of the sinful mob, pretending to be righteous men.


Extract from the stories of the prophets. (Isa bin Mariam, (as)).

'Isa told them that caring for this world is a sin, not fit for pious worshippers. The disbeliveers care for it because they do not know a better way. As for the believers, they know that their sustenance is with Allah, so they trust in Him and scorn this world.

Isa continued to invite people to worship the Only Lord, Who is without partner, just as he invited them to purify the heart and soul.

His teaching annoyed the priests, for every word of Isa was a threat to them and their position, exposing their misdeeds.

The Roman occupiers had, at first, no intention of being involved in this religious discord of the Jews because it was an internal affair, and they saw that this dispute would distract the Jews from the question of the occupation.

"However, the priests started to plot against Isa. They wanted to embarrass him and to prove that he had come to destroy the Mosaic Law. The Mosaic Law provides that an adulteress be stoned to death. They brought him a Jewish adulteress and asked Isa: "Does not the law stipulate the stoning of the adulteress?" Isa answered: "Yes." They said: "This woman is an adulteress." Isa looked at the woman and then at the priests. He knew that they were more sinful than she. They agreed that she should be killed according to Mosaic Law, and they understood that if he was going to apply Mosaic Law, he would be destroying his own rules of forgiveness and mercy.

Isa understood their plan. He smiled and assented: "Whoever among you is sinless can stone her." His voice rose in the middle of the Temple, making a new law on adultery, for the sinless to judge sin. There was none eligible; no mortal can judge sin, only Allah the Most Merciful.

As Isa left the temple, the woman followed him. She took out a bottle of perfume from her garments, knelt before his feet and washed them with perfume and tears, and then dried his feet with her hair. Isa turned to the woman and told her to stand up, adding: "O Lord, forgive her sins." He let the priests understand that those who call people to Almighty Allah are not executioners. His call was based on mercy for the people, the aim of all divine calls."

Isa continued to pray to Allah for mercy on his people and to teach his people to have mercy on one another and to believe in Allah.

Isa continued his mission, aided by divine miracles. Some Qur'anic commentators said that Isa brought four people back from the dead: a friend of his named Al-Azam, an old woman's son, and a woman's only daughter. These three had died during his lifetime. When the Jews saw this they said: "You only resurrect those who have died recently; perhaps they only fainted." They asked him to bring back to life Sam the Ibn Noah.'

From Surah Al Maidah (The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 5;

The Messengers Will be Asked About Their Nations
Allah states that on the Day of Resurrection, He will ask the Messengers about how their nations, to whom He sent them, answered and responded to their teachings. Allah said in other Ayat,
(Then surely, We shall question those (people) to whom it (the Book) was sent and verily, We shall question the Messengers.) [7:6], and,
(So, by your Lord, We shall certainly call all of them to account. For all that they used to do.) [15:92-93]. The statement of the Messengers here
(We have no knowledge) is the result of the horror of that Day, according to Mujahid, Al-Hasan Al-Basri and As-Suddi. `Abdur-Razzaq narrated that Ath-Thawri said that Al-A`mash said that Mujahid said about the Ayah,
(On the Day when Allah will gather the Messengers together and say to them: "What was the response you received'') They will become afraid and reply,
(We have no knowledge. , ) Ibn Jarir and Ibn Abi Hatim also recorded this explanation. `Ali bin Abi Talhah said that Ibn `Abbas commented on the Ayah,

(On the Day when Allah will gather the Messengers together and say to them: "What was the response you received (from men to your teaching)'' They will say: "We have no knowledge, verily, only You are the Knower of all that is hidden.'') "They will say to the Lord, Most Honored, `We have no knowledge beyond what we know, and even that, You have more knowledge of them than us.'' This response is out of respect before the Lord, Most Honored, and it means, we have no knowledge compared to Your encompassing knowledge. Therefore, our knowledge only grasped the visible behavior of these people, not the secrets of their hearts. You are the Knower of everything, Who has encompassing knowledge of all things, and our knowledge compared to Your knowledge is similar to not having any knowledge at all, for
(only You are the Knower of all that is hidden.)
(110. (Remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O `Isa, son of Maryam! Remember My favor to you and to your mother when I supported you with Ruh - il-Qudus [Jibril] so that you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and when I taught you the Book, the Hikmah, the Tawrah and the Injil; and when you made out of the clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My permission, and you breathed into it, and it became a bird by My permission, and you healed those born blind, and the lepers by My permission, and when you brought forth the dead by My permission; and when I restrained the Children of Israel from you since you came unto them with clear proofs, and the disbelievers among them said: `This is nothing but evident magic.''') (111. "And when I Awhaytu [put in the hearts of] Al- Hawariyyin to believe in Me and My Messenger, they said: `We believe. And bear witness that we are Muslims.''')

Reminding `Isa of the Favors that Allah Granted him (Chapter 5, verse 110)

Allah mentions how He blessed His servant and Messenger, `Isa, son of Maryam, and the miracles and extraordinary acts He granted him. Allah said,
(Remember My favor to you) when I created you from your mother, without male intervention, and made you a sign and clear proof of My perfect power over all things.
(And to your mother) when I made you testify to her chastity and you thus absolved her from the sin that the unjust, ignorant liars accused her of,
(when I supported you with Ruh - il-Qudus) the angel Jibril, and made you a Prophet, calling to Allah in the cradle and manhood. I made you speak in the cradle, and you testified that your mother was free from any immoral behavior, and you proclaimed that you worship Me. You also conveyed the news of My Message and invited them to worship Me.
(so that you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity Meaning you called the people to Allah in childhood and in maturity. And the word Tukallim means invited, because his speaking to people while a child is nothing strange by itself. Allah's statement,

(And when I taught you the Book and the Hikmah,) the power of writing and understanding
(and the Tawrah,) which was revealed to Musa, son of `Imran, who spoke to Allah directly. Allah's statement,
(and when you made out of the clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My permission,) means: `you shaped it in the figure of a bird by My permission, and it became a bird with My permission, after you blew into it'. Then, it became a flying bird with a soul by Allah's permission. Allah said;

(and you healed those born blind, and the lepers by My permission,) This was explained before in Surah Al `Imran (chapter 3) and we do not need to repeat it here. Allah's statement,
(And when you brought forth the dead by My permission,) meaning, you called them and they rose from their graves by Allah's leave, power, lntent and will. Allah said next,
(and when I restrained the Children of Israel from you since you came unto them with clear proofs, and the disbelievers among them said: "This is nothing but evident magic.'') Meaning: `remember My favor, when I stopped the Children of Israel from harming you, when you brought them the clear proofs and evidence, testifying to your prophethood and Message from Me to them. They rejected you and accused you of being a magician and tried to kill you by crucifixion, but I saved you, raised you to Me, purified you from their vulgarity and protected you from their harm.' The wording of this Ayah indicates that `Isa will be reminded of these favors on the Day of Resurrection. Allah used the past tense in these Ayat indicating that it is a forgone matter that will certainly occur. This Ayah also contains some of the secrets of the Unseen that Allah revealed to His Messenger Muhammad . Allah said,
(And when I (Allah) Awhaytu Al-Hawariyyin to believe in Me and My Messenger.) This is also a reminder of Allah's favor on `Isa, by making discples and companions for him. It is also said that Awhaytu in the Ayah means, `inspired', just as in another Ayah, Allah said;
(And We inspired the mother of Musa (saying): Suckle him, ) [28:7]. Allah said in other Ayat,

(And your Lord Awha (inspired) the bee, saying: "Take habitations in the mountains and in the trees and in what they erect. Then, eat of all fruits, and follow the ways of your Lord made easy (for you).'') [16:68-69] Al-Hasan Al-Basri commented about the Hawariyyun, "Allah inspired them'', while As-Suddi said, "`He put in their hearts,'' and the Hawariyyun said,
(We believe. And bear witness that we are Muslims.)

(112. (Remember) when Al-Hawariyun said: "O `Isa, son of Maryam! Can your Lord send down to us a Ma'idah from heaven'' `Isa said: "Have Taqwa of Allah, if you are indeed believers.'') (113. They said: "We wish to eat thereof and to be stronger in faith, and to know that you have indeed told us the truth and that we ourselves be its witnesses. '') (114. `Isa, son of Maryam, said: "O Allah, our Lord! Send us from heaven a table spread (with food) that there may be for us -- for the first and the last of us -- a festival and a sign from You; and provide us sustenance, for You are the Best of sustainers.'') (115. Allah said: "I am going to send it down unto you, but if any of you after that disbelieves, then I will punish him with a torment such as I have not inflicted on anyone among the `Alamin.'')

@Focused: Thats coming from your mouth. I does not mean it is true, so there.

@Cgift: So its personal attack! O dara bee. Am still a pure 100% prime cut, Nigerian! That you can take away from me. Bo ko ba re Okun, ko re Osa, a pada bo se bute. My brother, I use Olabowale to identify myself, instead of my Islamic name, for just one simple reason, to let all know that i am from 9ja. Stop hating, bro. Calm down. InshaAllah, I will return and live in Obodo Nigeria, soon. Maybe, we can meet then, yes?

Stick to the topic/subect matter. There is no need to be so worked up. Omo 9ja ni wa, still.

@Nwando: Your story about the accused woman on charges of adultery, above proof what Islam is saying: First Jesus did not come to change the laws given to Moses. There was no one to truly accuse the woman, because, her would be accusers' conscience, individually would not pass muster. They themselves, have committed the same sins, secretly. God revealed to Jesus, the secret of these evil people, which was what he wrote on the ground.

Since he, Jesus, did not see this woman in the act and there was no one left standing to accuse her, he could not deliver the 'SHARIAH,' on her!

In Suratul Maidah, Chapter 5, verse 110, one reads where it is stated that God revealed to Jesus, what the Children of Israel stored up in their homes. This is talking about that adultery incedent. If Jesus did not see fit, to abrogate the law of Moses, even though, he Jesus, had just demostrated the MERCY part of that law, with the woman, how can your beloved Paul, cancelled Moses laws and the ignore what Jesus said about the same laws?

@Ascony: Am not a Christian. So I can not help you, with any Biblical verse. However, you must never forget that whether you like it or not, you have an Overlord. That Overlord, is your creator. It is by His power you exist and enjoy all that you enjoy. My advice to you is that do not be deluded with temporary pride and arrogance. Every face shall perish, except His. Submit yourself to His wills, which are His laws and commands. Obey Him, with absolute obedience. You have no protector against Him. The end of those who reject faith will be Hellfire.

@Yisraylite: When you finish your study of the ancient Hebrew, please study Aramaic, which is probably older than it. It is probably the language that Abraham spoke, since he came out of Ur, a city, in Present day Iraq. Iraqi did not and are not speaking Hebrew, now. When you finally finish your search, you will come to find out that Islam is the true religion from God to mankind.


@Backslider: We now see that you are comparing your Bible, with the hadith/Sunnah Books. However, it is good to know it, as the truth came thumbling down from your heart! As to the Hadith/Sunnah, we have clear means of measuring the individual Hadith, as to its correctness, from very sound narration to very weak narration. It is the individual in the chain of narration; from the last person, who the writer heard it from to the last of them, who must be a companion of the Noble prophet (AS). The yardsticks, for measuring the authenticity of any hadith, therefore include, their individual honesty and accuracy of memory on one hand, with the expected character of the prophet on the other hand. Hadith does not stand on its own, it is the Prophet's explanation of the Qur'an, when the companion would ask him question, about any revealed verse. Some hadiths are recorded, by some collector(s), and are notby other(s). hadith, is at least 23 years of the life of the prophet, the period of prophethood! This will include all that was said and the Sunnah part was all that was done.

The Bible, okay, the New Testament, does not have a question and answer, between Jesus and his followers, about what was revealed, or the Message that was given to him, to deliver to his people. Infact, there is no record of the Gospel, that he preached about the places! This is the time you should think, and then make sincere repentance to your Creator, and come back to the fold of Islam, where you belong. I for one will be happy to see you back. And, am certain that your parents will be happy to see you return, to a faith that is good and sound, which gives life. Your Creator, is oft forgiven and full of mercy.

@Nwando: You know I love you, right? Please listen. When i asked you to give the Biblical way to address fornication or adultery, I did not know that you will result to Paul Saul writings. Paul who the whole of Christendom should be ashamed of, and walk away from him as quickly as they can!

We must never forget that, Jesus said in one of the. 'according to Gospels.' that he did not come to change the laws, but to fulfill them. This 'laws' that he will not change, but must fulfill, is what was given to Moses by his Lord! Moses was informed of the children of Israel's revolt, and thereby created a god, in the form of a Golden calf, while he was away to receive the Tablets! What did Moses do when he arrived? He cursed the leader of the revolt, with a leprosy and this man became an untouchable! Yet the man's will still be punished in the day of Judgement. The people who were adults, say, 40 years old and beyond, all died off, while the general population went around, unable to find their way to their destination for 40 years.

Further, Moses punished adulterer by stoning. Jesus, did not abrogate any of Moses' laws. He only required those who would be executioners be people who themselves are not committers of the same sin.

However, from your quotes above of Rev, Heb and Cor verses, we see that Moses and Jesus mutual way is being circumvented. Who is the culprit? No other but Mr Paul and his cohort. So that you know, he is not a thorn on my side or anyone who is on my side of the aisle. We just simply point out the mistake out to you. thats all. As I read these verses from Revelations, hebrew and Corinthian, I see that Paul is providing his own opinion and passing it up for revelation! It just does not work!

Whats the purpose of carrying out the punishment laid out for sins, eg fornication? For starter, if an individual does not take the sin so commonly that it becomes a routine or second nature, more than likely, he would have stopped before getting caught! Punishment is therefore carried out, to serve as a deterrent for those who may wish to engage in it, in the future. And also, it act as a severance action on the one that commits the sin.

It is the deterrence processes for sins that is missing in Christianity, is one of the bad qualities that the religion has. It therefore becomes do whatever you want. But of course, you have the blood sacrifice of the innocent man, the lamb to absorb you from even the most horrendous sins.

@Dafidixone:Surah Najm deals with the Night Journey of Muhammad, in body and soul (live human being). This journey began after Isha prayer and ended before Fajr prayer, (the last prayer of one day and before the early morning of the next day). The journey started from the Great House in Makka, then to the Mosque in Jerusalem. Then from Jerusalem to ascension to Heavens. It was in this occasion that the full instruction of Salah was given and the last 4 verses of Surah Baqarah, was revealed.

Muhammad, (as), was permitted to venture further than what was permitted to Jibril! Muhammad heard his Lord's voice and what was between them was a veil of light. And only Allah, knows how deep the layer of light was between the Lord and His servant! Muhammad, met all the prophets that he had led in prayer, earlier while he was Jerusalem, the first leg of this unique journey. Adam was in the first heaven, Jesus and his cousin John were in the second, Idris in the  third, , and in the seventh was father Ibrahiim, resting his back, in a leaning position on Baitul Mamur. Muhammad returned home to Makka, as stated earlier, before the morning prayer.

The major objective and responsibility of Muhammad was to eradicate imagery and idol worshipping by making God the Almighty the Only One to be worshipped. We see that there is no Muslim that worship idol, and claims that it is part of Islam! As to the Backslider's question of the name of the father of Muhammad being Abdallah, I can only ask him if he thinks that idol worshippers are not aware of the existence of Almighty God? If he realises that they are aware of God Almighty and that the idol that they worship, are to them an intercessor or a means to get closer/nearer to God Almighty.

Backslider should ask the Hindus and they will tell him that they are aware of the existence of One God, but the many gods they worship are between them and this One God Almighty. He should them look into his own religion of Christianity and draw out the similarity, between it and any idol worshipping of his choice. Lets call a spade here.

Further, since he is a yoruba man, he must have heard the idol worshipper of his tribe bearing names that christians or muslims also bear. Do we have to abandone Eleda/Eledumare/Alayelorun, as part of what God Almighty is called in Yoruba language, just because the idol worshippers may use the same names? That will be disgenuous.

As to Salman Rushdie, in my opinion he should be ignored. Why because Muhammad (as), instructed us to ignore people who are mad or crazy. Salman Rushdie must have been under the influence of the devil to have penned whatever he penned! If salma Rushdie, had not be under the control of the devil, he would have studied the Qur'an and the hadith. He would have been guided aright.



                                                                               Refuting Idolatry, Al-Lat and Al-`Uzza

Allah the Exalted rebukes the idolators for worshipping idols and taking rivals to Him. They built houses for their idols to resemble the Ka`bah built by Prophet Ibrahim, Allah's Khalil.

(Have you then considered Al-Lat,) Al-Lat was a white stone with inscriptions on. There was a house built around Al-Lat in At-Ta'if with curtains, servants and a sacred courtyard around it. The people of At-Ta'if, the tribe of Thaqif and their allies, worshipped Al-Lat. They would boast to Arabs, except the Quraysh, that they had Al-Lat. Ibn Jarir said, "They derived Al-Lat's name from Allah's Name, and made it feminine. Allah is far removed from what they ascribe to Him. It was reported that Al-Lat is pronounced Al-Lat because, according to `Abdullah bin `Abbas, Mujahid, and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas, Al-Lat was a man who used to mix Sawiq (a kind of barley mash) with water for the pilgrims during the time of Jahiliyyah. When he died, they remained next to his grave and worshipped him.'' Al-Bukhari recorded that Ibn `Abbas said about Allah's statement,

(Al-Lat, and Al-`Uzza.) "Al-Lat was a man who used to mix Sawiq for the pilgrims.'' Ibn Jarir said, "They also derived the name for their idol Al-`Uzza from Allah's Name Al-`Aziz. Al-`Uzza was a tree on which the idolators placed a monument and curtains, in the area of Nakhlah, between Makkah and At-Ta'if. The Quraysh revered Al-`Uzza.'' During the battle of Uhud, Abu Sufyan said, "We have Al-`Uzza, but you do not have Al-`Uzza.'' Allah's Messenger replied

(Say, "Allah is Our Supporter, but you have no support.'') Manat was another idol in the area of Mushallal near Qudayd, between Makkah and Al-Madinah. The tribes of Khuza`ah, Aws and Khazraj used to revere Manat during the time of Jahiliyyah. They used to announce Hajj to the Ka`bah from next to Manat. Al-Bukhari collected a statement from `A'ishah with this meaning. There were other idols in the Arabian Peninsula that the Arabs revered just as they revered the Ka`bah, besides the three idols that Allah mentioned in His Glorious Book. Allah mentioned these three here because they were more famous than the others. An-Nasa'i recorded that Abu At-Tufayl said, "When the Messenger of Allah conquered Makkah, he sent Khalid bin Al-Walid to the area of Nakhlah where the idol of Al-`Uzza was erected on three trees of a forest. Khalid cut the three trees and approached the house built around it and destroyed it. When he went back to the Prophet and informed him of the story, the Prophet said to him,

(Go back and finish your mission, for you have not finished it.) Khalid went back and when the custodians who were also its servants of Al-`Uzza saw him, they started invoking by calling Al-`Uzza! When Khalid approached it, he found a naked woman whose hair was untidy and who was throwing sand on her head. Khalid killed her with the sword and went back to the Messenger of Allah , who said to him,

(That was Al-`Uzza!)'' Muhammad bin Ishaq narrated, "Al-Lat belonged to the tribe of Thaqif in the area of At-Ta'if. Banu Mu`attib were the custodians of Al-Lat and its servants.'' I say that the Prophet sent Al-Mughirah bin Shu`bah and Abu Sufyan Sakhr bin Harb to destroy Al-Lat. They carried out the Prophet's command and built a Masjid in its place in the city of At-Ta'if. Muhammad bin Ishaq said that Manat used to be the idol of the Aws and Khazraj tribes and those who followed their religion in Yathrib (Al-Madinah). Manat was near the coast, close to the area of Mushallal in Qudayd. The Prophet sent Abu Sufyan Sakhr bin Harb or `Ali bin Abi Talib to demolish it. Ibn Ishaq said that Dhul-Khalasah was the idol of the tribes of Daws, Khath`am and Bajilah, and the Arabs who resided in the area of Tabalah. I say that Dhul-Khalasah was called the Southern Ka`bah, and the Ka`bah in Makkah was called the Northern Ka`bah. The Messenger of Allah sent Jarir bin `Abdullah Al-Bajali to Dhul-Khalasah and he destroyed it. Ibn Ishaq said that Fals was the idol of Tay' and the neighboring tribes in the Mount of Tay', such as Salma and Ajja. Ibn Hisham said that some scholars of knowledge told him that the Messenger of Allah sent `Ali bin Abi Talib to Fals and he destroyed it and found two swords in its treasure, which the Prophet then gave to `Ali as war spoils. Muhammad bin Ishaq also said that the tribes of Himyar, and Yemen in general, had a house of worship in San`a' called Riyam. He mentioned that there was a black dog in it and that the religious men who went with Tubba` removed it, killed it and demolished the building. Ibn Ishaq said that Ruda' was a structure of Bani Rabi`ah bin Ka`b bin Sa`d bin Zayd Manat bin Tamim, which Al-Mustawghir bin Rabi`ah bin Ka`b bin Sa`d demolished after Islam. In Sindad there was Dhul-Ka`bat, the idol of the tribes of Bakr and Taghlib, the sons of the Wa'il, and also the Iyad tribes.
                             
                                    Refuting the Idolators Who appoint Rivals to Allah and claim that the Angels were Females
Allah the Exalted said,
(Have you then considered Al-Lat, and Al-`Uzza. And Manat, the other third), then Allah said,

(Is it for you the males and for Him the females) Allah asked the idolators, `do you choose female offspring for Allah and give preference to yourselves with the males If you made this division between yourselves and the created, it would be,

(a division most unfair!)' meaning, it would be an unfair and unjust division. `How is it then that you make this division between you and Allah, even though this would be foolish and unjust, if you made it between yourselves and others' Allah the Exalted refutes such innovated lies, falsehood and atheism they invented through worshipping the idols and calling them gods
(They are but names which you have named -- you and your fathers) of your own desire,
(for which Allah has sent down no authority.) meaning, proof,
(They follow but a guess and that which they themselves desire,) they have no proof, except their trust in their forefathers who took this false path in the past, as well as, their lusts and desires to become leaders, and thereby gain honor and reverence for their forefathers,

(whereas there has surely come to them the guidance from their Lord!), meaning, Allah has sent them Messengers with the clear truth and unequivocal evidence. However, they did not adhere to or follow the guidance that came to them through the Prophets.

                                                        Wishful Thinking does not earn One Righteousness
Allah the Exalted said,
(Or shall man have what he wishes), asserting that not everyone gets the goodness that he wishes,

(It will not be in accordance with desires (of Muslims), nor those of the People of Scripture.)(4:123) Allah says, not everyone who claims to be guided is truly guided, and not everyone gets what he wishes for himself. Imam Ahmad recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said,

(When one of you wishes for something, let him be careful with what he wishes for, because he does not know what part of his wish will be written for him.)Only Ahmad collected this Hadith. Allah's statement,

(But to Allah belongs the last and the first.) meaning, all matters belong to Allah and He is the King and Owner of this world and the Hereafter, Who does what He will in both lives. Whatever He wills, occurs and whatever He does not will, never occurs.

@Dafidixone: To help you out of your Ostrich head in the sand syndrome: Before Abraham was born, by Allah, Who is Holder of my soul, I too, Olabowale was! My soul and all the souls of the children of Adam were already created, removed from the body of Adam (as).

Jesus, son of Mary, came very late, compared to when Abraham came. However, neither Jesus nor any man was before Adam. Read from Chapter 7 of the Qur'an (Suratul Ar'af), verse 172, with related verses from other chapters, on the subject of creation of the children of Adam. Our souls, Jesus and every person that will ever be created, were removed from the back of Adam, at the same time! Thats power, in itself. My beloved christain clergies, davidylan, being the chairman, your answers can not address this complex question. You do not have an answer of any tangible quality in the Bible about this subject. You are only providing us ambiguity at best.

Qur'an, in the explanation below, provides the answer to the question, the poster asked; Those who lived before Jesus, if they followed their respective prophet from God, in belief and worship and do as much good as possible, without associating partner(s) with God, yes, they will be admitted to Paradise. If they associated anything with God, being from the other camp, they will definately go to Hellfire! Jesus did not have any role to play here. His role is completely restricted to his time and the people he was charged which is to lead them the right path. His responsibility ended when Muhammad came on the stage of prophethood. Muhammad is the prophet of this current time, which starting from the time he received the first revelation, all the way to the end of time!

The Covenant taken from the Descendants of Adam.

Allah stated that He brought the descendants of Adam out of their fathers' loins, and they testified against themselves that Allah is their Lord and King and that there is no deity worthy of worship except Him. Allah created them on this Fitrah, or way, just as He said,

(So set you (O Muhammad) your face truly towards the religion, Hanifan. Allah's Fitrah with which He has created mankind. No change let there be in Khalqillah.) [30:30] And it is recorded in the Two Sahihs from Abu Hurayrah who said that the Messenger of Allah said,

(Every child is born upon the Fitrah, it is only his parents who turn him into a Jew, a Christian or a Zoroastrian. Just as animals are born having full bodies, do you see any of them having a cutoff nose (when they are born)) . Muslim recorded that `Iyad bin `Himar said that the Messenger of Allah said
(Allah said, `I created My servants Hunafa' (monotheists), but the devils came to them and deviated them from their religion, prohibiting what I allowed.) There are Hadiths that mention that Allah took Adam's offspring from his loins and divided them into those on the right and those on the left. Imam Ahmad recorded that Anas bin Malik said that the Prophet said
(It will be said to a man from the people of the Fire on the Day of Resurrection, `If you owned all that is on the earth, would you pay it as ransom' He will reply, `Yes.' Allah will say, `I ordered you with what is less than that, when you were still in Adam's loins, that is, associate none with Me (in worship). You insisted that you associate with Me (in worship).') This was recorded in the Two Sahihs Commenting on this Ayah (7:172), At-Tirmidhi recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said,

(When Allah created Adam, He wiped Adam's back and every person that He will create from him until the Day of Resurrection fell out from his back. Allah placed a glimmering light between the eyes of each one of them. Allah showed them to Adam and Adam asked, `O Lord! Who are they' Allah said, `These are your offspring.' Adam saw a man from among them whose light he liked. He asked, `O Lord! Who is this man' Allah said, `This is a man from the latter generations of your offspring. His name is Dawud.' Adam said, `O Lord! How many years would he live' Allah said, `Sixty years.' Adam said, `O Lord! I have forfeited forty years from my life for him.' When Adam's life came to an end, the angel of death came to him (to take his soul). Adam said, `I still have forty years from my life term, don't I' He said, `Have you not given it to your son Dawud' So Adam denied that and his offspring followed suit (denying Allah's covenant), Adam forgot and his offspring forgot, Adam made a mistake and his offspring made mistakes.) At-Tirmidhi said, "This Hadith is Hasan Sahih, and it was reported from various chains of narration through Abu Hurayrah from the Prophet ''. Al-Hakim also recorded it in his Mustadrak, and said; "Sahih according to the criteria of Muslim, and they did not record it.'' These and similar Hadiths testify that Allah, the Exalted and Most Honored, brought forth Adam's offspring from his loins and separated between the inhabitants of Paradise and those of the Fire. Allah then said,



(and made them testify as to themselves (saying): "Am I not your Lord'' They said: "Yes!'') Therefore, Allah made them testify with themselves by circumstance and words. Testimony is sometimes given in words, such as,

(They will say: "We bear witness against ourselves.'') [6:130] At other times, testimony is given by the people themselves, such as Allah's statement,

(It is not for the Mushrikin, (polytheists) to maintain the mosques of Allah, while they testify against their own selves of disbelief.) [9:17] This Ayah means that their disbelief testifies against them, not that they actually testify against themselves here. Another Ayah of this type is Allah's statement,



(And to that he bears witness (by his deeds). ) [100:7] The same is the case with asking, sometimes takes the form of words and sometimes a situation or circumstance. For instance, Allah said,

(And He gave you of all that you asked for.) [14:34] Allah said here,

(lest you should say), on the Day of Resurrection

(we were of this) of Tawhid



(unaware. Or lest you should say: "It was only our fathers aforetime who took others as partners in worship along with Allah,'') [7:172-173]

(175. And recite to them the story of him to whom We gave Our Ayat, but he threw them away; so Shaytan followed him up, and he became of those who went astray.) (176. And had We willed, We would surely have elevated him therewith, but he clung to the earth and followed his own vain desires. So his parable is the parable of a dog: if you drive him away, he pants, or if you leave him alone, he (still) pants. Such is the parable of the people who reject Our Ayat. So relate the stories, perhaps they may reflect.) (177. Evil is the parable of the people who rejected Our Ayat, and used to wrong themselves.)

(By the way my name is Olabowale, and not Adebowale!)

@ The Poster

A muslim woman who truly knows just enough about the commandment of Allah Almighty, will never, and never marry a man other than a Muslim man! It is against Allah's commandment that a Muslim woman marries a christian or Jew or any other, except Muslim. The reason s are so many. The complete reason is know my the All Knower, alone.

@Davidylan: Don't marry. Copy another prophet, who was never married. Now when you are sixty or so, let us hear about the happiness of your mom. And about your fulfilled life. Stop lying. Your statement is character assassination. Bring your proof. You will have none. If you bring anything, it will a fabrication, from the usual quarters of the aisle. It will be from the enemies of God, the christians and the associates the jews. The christians dont even know that One True Gos is sufficient, the have to invent a lie against Him; 'He has a son and He is a third of Godhead!' Shame on you davidylan, for your lies!

@Cgift, Pilgrim.1 etc: Here is the explanation of Suratul Mariam, verse 71. The particular verse that is the thorn on your head. To say its on your side, it will have a mild impression, as it is something you can deal with. It is a hatman, a preordained pronouncement, by Allah, that all mankind will have to pass on the bridge over Hellfire. InshaAllah, the Muslims will be saved, but the non Muslims will not.

Please through what God says below. This include your saying that God has a son! It is a BIG SIN against God. When you have read this below, then respond, but not until you digest it. I wish God Almighty open your hearts and let His guidance enter it Amiin. I do not want to see you or anyone in Hellfire.

"Man's Amazement about Life after Death and the Refutation against this Amazement

Allah, the Exalted, informs that mankind is amazed that he could be returned to life after death and he thinks that this is something farfetched. As Allah says,

[وَإِن تَعْجَبْ فَعَجَبٌ قَوْلُهُمْ أَءِذَا كُنَّا تُرَابًا أَءِنَّا لَفِى خَلْقٍ جَدِيدٍ]

(And if you wonder, then wondrous is their saying: "When we are dust, shall we indeed then be (raised) in a new creation'')[13:5] Allah also says,

[أَوَلَمْ يَرَ الإِنسَـنُ أَنَّا خَلَقْنَـهُ مِن نُّطْفَةٍ فَإِذَا هُوَ خَصِيمٌ مٌّبِينٌ - وَضَرَبَ لَنَا مَثَلاً وَنَسِىَ خَلْقَهُ قَالَ مَن يُحىِ الْعِظَـمَ وَهِىَ رَمِيمٌ - قُلْ يُحْيِيهَا الَّذِى أَنشَأَهَآ أَوَّلَ مَرَّةٍ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ خَلْقٍ عَلِيمٌ ]

(Does not man see that We have created him from Nutfah. Yet behold he (stands forth) as an open opponent. And he puts forth for Us a parable and forgets his own creation. He says: "Who will give life to these bones after they are rotten and have become dust'' Say: "He will give life to them Who created them for the first time! And He is the All-Knower of every creation!'')[36:77-79] And Allah says here in this Surah,

[وَيَقُولُ الإِنْسَـنُ أَإِذَا مَا مِتُّ لَسَوْفَ أُخْرَجُ حَيّاً - أَوَلاَ يَذْكُرُ إلإِنْسَـنُ أَنَّا خَلَقْنَاهُ مِن قَبْلُ وَلَمْ يَكُ شَيْئاً ]
(And man says: "When I am dead, shall I then be raised up alive'' Does not man remember that We created him before, while he was nothing) Allah uses the beginning of creation as a proof for its repetition. This means that He, the Exalted, created the human being while he was nothing. So can he not repeat this creation after the human had actually become something Similalry Allah says;

[وَهُوَ الَّذِى يَبْدَأُ الْخَلْقَ ثُمَّ يُعِيدُهُ وَهُوَ أَهْوَنُ عَلَيْهِ]

(And He it is Who originates the creation, then He will repeat it; and this is easier for Him.) [30:27] In the Sahih it is recorded that the Messenger of Allah said,

«يَقُولُ اللهُ تَعَالَى: كَذَّبَنِي ابْنُ آدَمَ وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَهُ أَنْ يُكَذِّبَنِي، وَآذَانِي ابْنُ آدَمَ وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَهُ أَنْ يُؤْذِيَنِي، أَمَّا تَكْذِيبُهُ إِيَّايَ فَقَوْلُهُ لَنْ يُعِيدَنِي كَمَا بَدَأَنِي، وَلَيْسَ أَوَّلُ الْخَلْقِ بِأَهْوَنَ عَلَيَّ مِنْ آخِرِهِ، وَأَمَّا أَذَاهُ إِيَّايَ فَقَوْلُهُ إِنَّ لِي وَلَدًا وَأَنَا الْأَحَدُ الصَّمَدُ الَّذِي لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَهُ كُفُوًا أَحَد»

(Allah, the Exalted said, "The son of Adam denies Me and he has no right to deny Me. The son of Adam harms Me and he has no right to harm Me. His denial of Me is his statement that I will never repeat His creation like I created him the first time. Yet, the second creation is not more difficult upon Me than the first. His harming Me is his statement that I have a son. Yet, I am One Alone, the Self-Sufficient Whom all creatures need. He Who does not beget children, nor was He born and there is none coequal or comparable unto Him.'') Concerning Allah's statement,

[فَوَرَبِّكَ لَنَحْشُرَنَّهُمْ وَالشَّيَـطِينَ]

(So by your Lord, surely We shall gather them together, and the Shayatin,) The Lord, Blessed be He the Most High, swears by His Noble Self that He will definitely gather all of those who worshipped other than Allah and their devils as well.

[ثُمَّ لَنُحْضِرَنَّهُمْ حَوْلَ جَهَنَّمَ جِثِيّاً]

(then We shall bring them round Hell, Jithiyya.) Al-`Awfi related that Ibn `Abbas said, "This means sitting and it is similar to His statement,

[وَتَرَى كُلَّ أُمَّةٍ جَاثِيَةً]

(And you will see each nation Jathiyah.)'' [45:28] As-Suddi commented on the word Jithiyya, "It means standing.'' It has been reported from Murrah that Ibn Mas`ud said the same. Concerning Allah's statement,

[ثُمَّ لَنَنزِعَنَّ مِن كُلِّ شِيعَةٍ]

(Then indeed We shall drag out from every sect) This means from every nation. This is what Mujahid said.

[أَيُّهُمْ أَشَدُّ عَلَى الرَّحْمَـنِ عِتِيّاً]

(all those who were worst in obstinate rebellion against the Most Gracious.) Ath-Thawri reported from `Ali bin Al-Aqmar, from Abu Al-Ahwas, from Ibn Mas`ud that he said, "The first of them will be bound to the last of them until their number is complete. Then, they will be brought all together. Then, Allah will begin with the greatest of them in crime and continue in succession. That is Allah's statement,

[ثُمَّ لَنَنزِعَنَّ مِن كُلِّ شِيعَةٍ أَيُّهُمْ أَشَدُّ عَلَى الرَّحْمَـنِ عِتِيّاً ]

(Then indeed We shall drag out from every sect all those who were worst in obstinate rebellion against the Most Gracious.) This is similar to Allah's statement,

[حَتَّى إِذَا ادَّارَكُواْ فِيهَا جَمِيعًا قَالَتْ أُخْرَاهُمْ لاٍّولَـهُمْ رَبَّنَا هَـؤُلاءِ أَضَلُّونَا فَـَاتِهِمْ عَذَابًا ضِعْفًا مِّنَ النَّارِ]

(Until they will be gathered all together in the Fire. The last of them will say to the first of them: "Our Lord! These misled us, so give them a double torment of the Fire.'') Until His saying,

[بِمَا كُنتُمْ تَكْسِبُونَ]

(For what you used to earn.) [7:38-39] The first of them will say to the last of them: "Your were not better than us, so taste the torment for what you used to earn.'' Concerning Allah's statement,

[ثُمَّ لَنَحْنُ أَعْلَمُ بِالَّذِينَ هُمْ أَوْلَى بِهَا صِلِيّاً ]

(Then, verily, We know best those who are most worthy of being burnt therein.) Then, at this point Allah attaches one piece of information to another. The meaning here is that Allah best knows which of His creatures deserve to be burned in the fire of Hell and remain there forever and who deserves to have his punishment doubled. This is as He says in the Ayah that was previously mentioned,

[قَالَ لِكُلٍّ ضِعْفٌ وَلَـكِن لاَّ تَعْلَمُونَ]

(He will say: "For each one there is double (torment), but you know not.'') [7:38]

[وَإِن مِّنكُمْ إِلاَّ وَارِدُهَا كَانَ عَلَى رَبِّكَ حَتْماً مَّقْضِيّاً - ثُمَّ نُنَجِّى الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ وَّنَذَرُ الظَّـلِمِينَ فِيهَا جِثِيّاً ]

(71. There is not one of you but will pass over it (Hell); this is with your Lord, a decree which must be accomplished.) (72. Then We shall save those who had Taqwa. And We shall leave the wrongdoers in it, Jithiyya.)

Everyone will be brought to Hell, then the Righteous will be saved

Ibn Jarir reported from `Abdullah that he said concerning Allah's statement,

[وَإِن مِّنكُمْ إِلاَّ وَارِدُهَا]

(There is not one of you but will pass over it.) "The bridge over Hell is like the sharp edge of a sword. The first group to cross it will pass like a flash of lightning. The second group will pass like the wind. The third group will pass like the fastest horse. The fourth group will pass like the fastest cow. Then, the rest will pass while the angels will be saying, `O Allah save them, save them.' '' This narration has supporting narrations similar to it from the Prophet in the Two Sahihs and other collections as well. These narrations have been related by Anas, Abu Sa`id, Abu Hurayrah, Jabir and other Companions, may Allah be pleased with them all. Ahmad also recorded that Umm Mubashshar, the wife of Zayd bin Harithah, said, "The Messenger of Allah was in the house of Hafsah when he said,

«لَا يَدْخُلُ النَّارَ أَحَدٌ شَهِدَ بَدْرًا وَالْحُدَيْبِيَّة»

(No one who was present at the battles of Badr and Hudaybiyyah (of the Muslims) will enter into the Hellfire.) Then, Hafsah said, "Doesn't Allah say,

[وَإِن مِّنكُمْ إِلاَّ وَارِدُهَا]

(There is not one of you but will pass over it (Hell) The Messenger of Allah replied by reciting,

[ثُمَّ نُنَجِّى الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ]

(Then We shall save those who had Taqwa.) In the Two Sahihs there is a Hadith reported from Az-Zuhri, from Sa`id from Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allah said,

«لَا يَمُوتُ لِأَحَدٍ مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ ثَلَاثَةٌ مِنَ الْوَلَدِ تَمَسُّهُ النَّارُ إِلَّا تَحِلَّةَ الْقَسَم»

(No one of the Muslims who has had three children, who all died, will be touched by the Hellfire, except for an oath that must be fulfilled.) `Abdur-Rahman bin Zayd bin Aslam commented on Allah's statement,

[وَإِن مِّنكُمْ إِلاَّ وَارِدُهَا]

(There is not one of you but will pass over it "The passing of the Muslims (over the Hellfire) means their passing over a bridge that is over it. But the passing of the idolators over the Hellfire refers to their admission to the Fire.'' As-Suddi reported from Murrah, from Ibn Mas`ud, that he said concerning Allah's statement,

[كَانَ عَلَى رَبِّكَ حَتْماً مَّقْضِيّاً]

(this is with your Lord; a Hatman decree.) "An oath that must be fulfilled.'' Mujahid said, "Hatman means preordainment.'' Ibn Jurayj said the same. Concerning Allah's statement,

[ثُمَّ نُنَجِّى الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ]

(Then We shall save those who had Taqwa. ) When all of the creatures passed over the Hellfire, and those disbelievers and the disobedient people who are destined to fall into it because of their disobedience, Allah will save the believers and the righteous people from it because of their deeds. Therefore, their passing over the bridge and their speed will be based upon their deeds that they did in this life. Then, the believers who performed major sins will be allowed intercession. The angels, the Prophets and the believers will all intercede. Thus, a large number of the sinners will be allowed to come out of Hell. The fire will have devoured much of their bodies, except the places of prostration on their faces. Their removal from the Hellfire will be due to the faith in their hearts. The first to come out will be he who has the weight of a Dinar of faith in his heart. Then, whoever has the next least amount after him. Then, whoever is next to that after him, and so forth. This will continue until the one who has the tiniest hint of faith in his heart, equal to the weight of an atom. Then, Allah will take out of the Fire whoever said "La ilaha illallah,'' even one day of his entire life, even if he never performed any good deed. After this, no one will remain in the Hellfire, except those it is obligatory upon to remain in the Hellfire forever. This has been reported in many authentic Hadiths from the Messenger of Allah . This is why Allah says,

[ثُمَّ نُنَجِّى الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ وَّنَذَرُ الظَّـلِمِينَ فِيهَا جِثِيّاً ]

(Then We shall save those who had Taqwa. And We shall leave the wrongdoers in it, Jithyya.)

[وَإِذَا تُتْلَى عَلَيْهِمْ ءَايَـتُنَا بِيِّنَـتٍ قَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ لِلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ أَىُّ الْفَرِيقَيْنِ خَيْرٌ مَّقَاماً وَأَحْسَنُ نَدِيّاً - وَكَمْ أَهْلَكْنَا قَبْلَهُمْ مِّن قَرْنٍ هُمْ أَحْسَنُ أَثَاثاً وَرِءْياً ]

(73. And when Our clear Ayat are recited to them, those who disbelieve say to those who believe: "Which of the two groups has the best dwellings and the finest Nadiyyan'') (74. And how many a generation have We destroyed before them, who were better in wealth, goods and outward appearance)."

@cgift: Aburo, mo ni ko ba mi wa ayah Qur'an to wipe mo ni lati, se ni dondon, tipa ti kuu ku, ki iyawo mi je imale. O ti ri ni? Big tall tale teller you.I wish you and your cohorts listen to yourselves.

Some guy, Matthew Ashimolowo, was shameless in his assertion that Prophet Muhammad was even a christian! The madness of the christians. And the Nigerian Christians take the cake!

Thank God you are still young, so, there is a cahnce for you to receive guidance, before you die. Please, Omoya, don't die in the state of ignorance (Jahaliyyah). You will never have a chance for Paradise as a Christain! paradise is forbidden for anyone who associate anything with God Almighty.

If Moses and Jesus and Muhammad were to be in the same place together, the leader among them is Muhammad! Allah tabaraka wa tahallah confirms it!

@cgift: Surah 19;71, does not say the Muslims will go to hellfire! Oh no, far from it, sir! This is the lie of yourself with our lovely pilgrim.1, who sees if at all with some defection of sight!

Surah 19;71, applies to every human being, Muslims and non Muslims alike. It say that every one shall pass over hell. How is it that everyone will pass over hell? There is a bridge over hell, which people will pass over. If this applies to the Muslims alone, then the Muslims, who died in good faith in the Oneness of Allah and did as much good as possible, will pass through without falling into the fire of hell, InshaAllah. Those who fall in, because of any reason whatsoever, in due time, after they have been punished, will be removed and be placed in paradise, InshaAllah.

We therefore know that the non Muslims, eg you cgift, if you die in the state of disbelieve that permeates your heart, presently, since you are a keferi, then you will be herded into hellfire, because of your state of disbelieve alone. It has nothing to do with any other physical reason.

Islam is very specific about paradise and hellfire. Hell is meant for those who are not Muslim, even before the Islam of Muhammad. Since we count all prophets from our father Adam all the way to Muhammad as Muslims. Those who follow those prophets as they were supposed to be followed are counted as Muslims. That applies to the time of the old prophet and before any new prophet arrives on the stage of humanity. For illustration purpose, the people who followed Moses as Moses was commanded were Muslims. However, if there were remnant of them, when Jesus arrived with his prophethood, they should naturally follow him. Those who refused to follow him would in essence fall from the fold of the islam of Moses and of course never following Jesus.

In the same fashion, those who followed Jesus before he was raised up were Muslims. If there were remnant of them that remained when Muhammad came to the stage of humanity, they should naturally come into the folds of Muhammad's Islam. And as soon as they know of Muhammad's Islam, A very good example of this was Salman Al farsi, who left Iran and went through a journey all over the ancient world until he found himself in slavery after leaving Turkey. He finally found Muhammad in Madina. He is a success.

Let me tell you what your heart has not been able to grasp; How can a leader not know where he will end up, if his true followers are going to paradise without ever going to hell first? Then what do you think will happen to the leader? The leader ia of course the people of paradise. Allah, tabaraka wa tahallah, in surah taha told His messenger not to even worship all night. Which he had become his routine, in humility and reverence to Allah. Aisha says to him, 'oh messenger of Allh, why are you worship this much, without any rest? When your Lord has forgiven you all your sins, be it in the past or the future?'

Muhammad said to Aisha, 'shouldn't I be grateful?' That is the man that Muhammad was! Get your story straight! InshaAllah, if Moses goes to paradise, Muslims will go with him, because he is our prophet. If Jesus goes to paradise, Muslims will go with him, because he is our prophet. However, if Muhammad goes to paradise, we the Muslims will be the only group that will go with him. The rest of mankind will end in hellfire. Is this what you want for yourself?

I have three chances, and you have how many chances to go to paradise? On one hand, your Bible claims Jesus is a servant of God, when he is sent to deliver the messages/mission. On the other hand you call him God, when he is giving up his ghost, committing it to God's hand. At the same time, he was begged not to let the cup stay on his head, and said in a crying voice, why has that forsaken me?

My man you have a problem.

@Davidylan: You are not even remembering to pray from the nation, where you bloodline came from. Nigeria, indeed yoruba blood flows in your darn gentile body. Nigeria gave you all the basic education you have made you capable of competing in the University in Rochester, NY. Wow!, you ignore this wholesome part of your life. Whereas, if you arrive in Israel, and claim your nonsense, the Jews (Yahud), will laugh at you and say that this is a madman!

This goes for you my friend, Nwando. Do not forget Igboland and her blood that flows in your body.

@LoveKing: You want answer to your questions? Pick up the Qur'an. You find in it that Jesus, was of a miraculous birth, performed many miracles than what you will find in the Christian Bible, is not son of God, because God does not need a son, he is not God or partner of God, that will mean that there is no true Supreme being, he was a prophet, sent as a messiah to the Children of Israel, only and that he proclaimed the coming of a future prophet/messenger of God, whose name will be Ahmad (another name for Muhammad), he was not crucified now died on the cross, hence he has not experienced earthly death, yet and there is no resurrection, therefore, and he will come back to the earth to act as one of the signs of the final day.

If you after carefully reading and studying the Qur'an, have any question, please do not hesitate to contact me. I am available, as adequately as possible. Further, leave the junk in the trunk when you pick up for this assignment. This is about life in hell or in paradise. The choice is very clear.

Do not be deluded by all the fancies of the world. This is the trick of Satan. The seducer will make what is wrong seemingly correct and agreeable. And what is right, seemingly unattractive and repulsive. Watch out for his tricks. Be careful of him.

@D-reloaded: You are the woman. Unless you are married, then I hope you are still a virgin, with your hymen still intact? You really do not have to have your hymen intact, to be a virgin anyhow. The hymen can be turn without having sex. If a woman is involved in rigorous sporting activities, there is tendency for her to not have the hymen intact, even though, she never have been involved in sex. Doctors, your input's are required here.

Afterall, the mother of Jesus, never involved with any man. It is very obvious that by the time she was having her son, by the process of birth, the hymen will have to be gone. Thats the only way for the baby to be able to have enough room to emerge from her. Unless there is a miracle which the Bible did not record in this case?

The point is this, a person who is promiscuous, will try to hide that fact by the reconstruction process. A person who has never been involved will not even know whether there is hymen or not, still in place. Her concern is often not focused on the hymen. I hope that my women folks, with or without hymen, are virgins, until married. I know the pressure on young. Those who will maintain their individual honor will struggle greatly to succeed.


@Nwando; I do not want to leave the challenge on the table without you giving me an answer: My dear friend, what does the New testament say about fornication and or adultery? Whats the punishment, if there is any? Has anyone ever been punished, and what was the nature of the punishment? Is the process of punishment now abrogated, by a better process, if there is no punishment process from the NT? The OT must have a punishment process, and what was it? How is a person discouraged from fornication and or adultery? What are the barriers put in place to at least make it difficult for the heart to go to it, without recourse or remorse?

Have a Happy Thanksgiving to all NLander in US (God own country, excluding the rest of other countries?).

I wished I had taken the advise of my esteemed fellow cgift, with my first marriage. I should have forcible converted her to Muslima. But I was naive, because, I could not find a single verse the in the Qur'an, that supports cgifts statement. And searching through the Sunnah/hadith, I came up with the same result! Please cgift, before you close the pages of your Qur'an and hadith Book, get me the information, that you are quoting. Am still trying to find any, even now. Are you reading the Yoruba or other Nigerian language of what the Qur'anic verses may mean? I am reading the Arabic text. Please direct me, or when you shamelessly fail to find any where to support your assumption, which is what the Christians do anyway, please have the courage to say that it has all been a fluke. Another deceit to color Islam in a bad light. You throw too much dung and non of it is sticking. Yet you stink and you are trying to drag in my Christmas shoes into your hugwash.

@Nwando: After two grown kids, I can not claim that am a virgin. Further, I do not participate in illicit sex. I will not ask if a would be wife is a virgin. My prerequisite is simple that she is a BELIEVER. I will even go for a Christian, and or Jew, knowing fully well that God may use my relationship with her to soften her heart. I am not talking about you. We already know that you are hooked. But a man who is asking question about the virginity of a woman, may receive an unpleasant answer.

What does the Bible say about Virginity? What is the ruling on hymen or virginity, in Christianity, Doctor? Talk to me.

@Pilgrim.1: So Jesus has a SOUL? I thought that belongs to mere mortals, you and me. (Soul is ruh, when it is in the body of a living human being!).

  John 12:27-28
  Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say?
  Father, save me from this hour:
  but for this cause came I unto this hour.
  Father, glorify thy name.
  Then came there a voice from heaven, saying,
  I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

A trouble soul, for a God? God is lost for or lost for word? God asking his equal to save him, from whatever the condition the equal puts him in? Who truly is the God and Master between God Almighty and Jesus Christ, from this verse 27 above?

Ordinary people gathered together and heard voice from heaven? Is that voice belonging to God, yet the hearers all survived and none died? Yet, in Exodus 20;19, we read that the bold and galant, children under Moses said to Moses,'speak to us yourself and we will listen. But do not have God speak to us or we will die.' This generation was the best generation of the children of Israel. they had enough sense to know that hearing God voice will mean doom to them. Yet during the time of Jesus, he called the generation of the children of Israel of his time an evil generation, yet verse 28, above said no one from this evil generation died from hearing God's voice? What is there being glorified in the phrase, 'glorified it, and will glorify it again?'

I need you to think through your answer, my dear. Please do not deflect the question.

@Pilgrim.1: #1. He came to earth to glorify the Father:

John 17:4
I have glorified thee on the earth:
I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

If this verse, does not point out the servant position of Jesus, to you, in relationship to the Lordship of his Master, God Almighty, then I do not know what will. No Muslim needs to use the Bible to know this. Islam is based on it. The hearts already agree on this Lord and Servant relationship. Qur'an is very direct about it. Thank God, regardless of all the pervertions and the watersheddings and dilutions that the Bible has gone through, God preserves what needed to be preserved. There will always be reminant of what agrees with Qur'an in the Bible. Never, will the writers of the Bible, regardless of the gadzillion editions and revisions, will able to rid it free of that specific indicator verses of God being the master of servant jesus. The mind of a true believer, a seeker of truth, whose heart is not diseased, can see what others may not see!

The operative phrase in the above is, 'the work which thou gave me.' You give work to your subordinate/slave/servant/employer to do. Never can you give work to your coequal to do, in the same authoritative manner as what is expressed in the verse above!

Have you ever heard of Las Vegas, Reno, etc, all in Nevada? Las Vegas is dubbed 'Sin City.' Who are the owners of all the casinos? Please, lets face facts. Those Muslims, who indulge in those unislamic behaviours, when they see other Muslims who are not misbehaving like them, the cower and feel ashamed. No one says that there are no bad eggs in Islam.

Unlike, the Christians, the one who was not involved will jump hands and feet, into the filth, just with the slightest of encouragements. I know these things well. Please, you are always hanging your hope on the cross, so why is there any shame or pretension of it, now.

The case of the Arabs, in the Gulf, is really a confirmation of the prophethood of Muhammad (as). There is a hadith that talks about the present issues of the people in the gulf. By the way, they are trying to be like you. The majority of the patrons are Christians.

@dafidixone: Over 50 years, I have been Muslim! My older sister is been Muslim for almost 60 years. My father, (as) spent all his life as a Muslim. Most of my family, from my father side are Muslims, dead or alive!

Surprised? Hardly. The blessing of Allah is not over on me yet. My mother, when she was almost 80 years, converted to Islam, about 3 years ago! Want more, my bride converted to Islam after, her first husband, a very powerful Muslim, was not capable of talking to her, about Islam, while he was alive, (ra).

dafidixone, God willing, your convertion is around the corner. Staunchest of enemies of Islam, became Muslim before they die. You are a cake walk. Lets continue to dialogue. InshaAllah, your heart will be made soft and true faith will enter it.

Islam is not for the faint at heart. We hold to the deen firmly.

@dafidixone: When you are smiling, the whole world smiles with you. When you cry, you cry alone. Since t lawal, has islamic blood, i guess God Almighty, the Lord of Jesus and David, etc, is the only One that can help him. Unlike trying to read just Psalm, a material that it is assumed penned, by David, he, T Lawal, can read from the Book of remedies for all types of conditions. Do not be evil one that stands against truth salvation of this troubled man, Mr. T lawal.

He had read your Psalm, and it did not work. All he has to do is to come back to his true nature, submitting to One God, Who is never slumber and always capable to resolve all matters. You, dafidixone, this God, too. Do not wait till its too late for you. Then it will only regret.

@Skyone; Who is the overlord of playboy and/casinos and like matters? Muslims or what religion? There is no one in Islam that will tell you that Islam does not have bad apples. However, lookking at it from the populations as a who, be it from the religious or industrial population, Muslims is a very minute percentage. Further, you will see the weak Muslims being egged on, and not the Muslims egging the other people, to doing evil! Speak the truth my man.

@t_lawal366: You almost got me fooled! If you are not a Muslim, you need to change your name. say to Saul/Paul. that way, we can identify you for what you are. Lawal, if your psalm can not help you, then try to come back to Islam, which gives you all the ammonitions of how to defeat this thing that bothers you.

When you are ready, contact me. But you have to be a true Muslim, now. I will then teach you few verses of the Qur'an that you will recite before you sleep and all your worries will go away. You will not have the nightmarish episodes that permeates your nights, presently.

How did you ever abandoned Islam? There is answer for all your conditions in it. You need to go back to it.