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Theplotter:
If you say some yoruba are used as sacrifice in Benin, that is another fact of history that i can not deny.

Yoruba has a race, is too large to be assumed under the more militaristic Yoruba societies such as Oyo, Ibadan and Abeokuta and thus do not enjoy maximum military protection, and so they became a target of slave traders, and the mass of this slave traders were Yoruba themselves.

Benin is very small and so more easy to control especially by a king who has absolute power over the people ( that is because of his Yoruba blood), couple with the fact that Benin contacted the Europeans early and so they had assess to guns and gunpowder, Benin transformed from a kingdom filled with cowards who built large moats to protect themselves against invaders and started expansion against their neighbors using the power of gunpowder.

But Benin glory was short because they only got the guns not the guts, the Ibadan travelled a long mile and recover Akure and some other eastern Yoruba tribes under Benin.

Ogendegbe decided to teach the Oba a lesson and marched on Benin, it was the Benin Chiefs in their large feminine skirts that came to beg him( that is to tell you that because you kill a snake doesn't mean you can kill all snakes)

Concerning the whole of Lagos being under Benin, in your wildest dream.
Omo you dey dream big time.

I don't have time to write epistles on that chapter,Tao12 had done that several time but since you are dumb you still don't get it.

Now concerning my identity as Yoruba which had become your own problem,let it be your problem.

You are a child, a naive child,pained by the outcome of history which is difficult to accept, sorry, because at the end of the day Yoruba benin is just a weak minor tribe that has to keep quiet when great kings are talking.

Take the itsekiri kingship as example,there is a written law that states that only a son born of itsekiri or Benin blood that can become king, but a son born of a Yoruba woman cannot, aaahaa!! I laugh.
When the Ooni and some other Yoruba kings intervened in the matter, kiakia the Yoruba boy became king, that is power, that is influence.

The Oba can't do anything, he knew his seniors had put their hands into the issue so he could not interven.

Today Lagos had become a prominent Yoruba city known far and wide, call it a no man's land, your opinion.
Even some parts of the acclaimed Benin are been bought by powerful yoruba men, there is nothing you can do about it.

We are smart, we are strong, we are cunning, we are precise, we are strategic.
No wonder the Edo people asked for a son of our father to rule them. There is nothing you can do about it.

Benin can never start whahala with Yoruba, because they are not fit, the day they do, they will lose all they the influence, the glory and their ties even with other minor tribes, Yoruba people will make sure of that.

No be by mouth, we are great.
In culture,in language, in tradition, in music in all you can ever think of.

If you speak trash again, i would still come and give you your medicine, good morning.

l love this piece.

gregyboy:
Many nonsense in one writeup the only one that got my attention was Ekiokpagha treaty like i will always say the treaty is an indigenous treaty involving the palace and a commoner

The history was only twisted in the 30s to accompany yoruba fairytale

They were so many other treaty that occurred in the benin empire and they are indigenous

Stop forcing Yoruba into our history we have long passed the stage when we needed the attention not anymore

Ife, oromiyan, Oduduwa in benin history are recent invention

Go drink carbonated water. Since you have no knowledge of your Edo Kingdom..

agbakuonida:
Ejo sir kini anpe Lili ati wipe bawo ni ose ri gan

Lili is not a snake. Rather,it is a porcupine species which are also found in Italy, NorthAfrica , Subsahara Africa.Perhaps elsewhere in the world. The name is properly called "Africa Crested Porcupine."

gregyboy:
Ogodomigo was a frictional name coined by egharevba, Benin was known as edo and was known to the European as benin

The word Benin was coined from the itsekiris
Who warned the Portuguese with Yoruba to stay clear off edo lands and called it ile binu which means land of anger

Stop lying . Igodomigodo was never Benu/Binu/Bini before Oranmian. Efas,Ogiamiens, Yehkee, Ika, Urhobo etc.

Ekiokpagha treaty will stand the test of time forever in Edo land between your Yoruba Oba and Ogiamien family relationship cannot be broken. No matter how much liars you people spread.

It was before your many of your ancestors and so shall it live till death do you and your Yoruba overlord king ; Oba Bini Omo n'Oba n'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo and you , the servants and freeborn in Edo land.

Furthermore, Itsekiri was not in existence as at when Bini was formed . Infact Bini
was formed as a name around late 11 century AD. So stop polluting the air with this false information.

Ginuwa was even a distant patrilineal son of Ọwọ́mikà/Owọ́mikà(eweka), who himself was a son of odedé Prince King orànmiyàn, who later became Ooni/ Aani(Owner) .

Meanwhile, answer my question on the sword that I ask you . Or is it hard to know the family that gives such out ?

rhektor:
Your response seems too much for him, don't expect any reasonable response other than the usual conjectures. You should have leave it at the question stages. Anyway, good write up there keep winning, as we go into the year 2022 I hope Bini delusionists would find internal peace

Peace be upon you in the forthcoming Gregorian Calendar Year. May the season brings forth abundance to you and your family.

gregyboy:
Oromiyan never existed it was the hand work of sultan below and Samuel johson imagination...

Oduduwa was the original friction character

Can you proof that the family cum house name in Igodomigodo that gave Oba Bini the sword of authority ? Stop ranting and learn it that Yoruba imposed her culture, language and her monarchial system in your land.

Christistruth00:
Merry Christmas



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmm1gt_2SkQ





Cc Tao12 ,Olu317,Macof,AreaFada,Gregboy,Etinosa,Samuk

Season greeting to you and all well wishers of y/ours.


Cheers

Theplotter:
You mean the way Oranmiyan our father trashed the useless Ogisos of Edo descendants and installed the sophisticated political system of the great Yoruba people.

Satisfactorily stated.

absoluteSuccess:
You made a good point as a fair minded person here. I pray that your humanity will always speak for you.

Continue to be an Omoluabi. Be fair always and not take side, yet be empathic with the embattled.

Truly, the world needs more honest people to see through all the hogwash of wickedness and dishonesty.

May God be with you.

Aṣẹ́ wa. Continue aswell to always showcase the Ọmọ èlú ìwa bi that you are known for.

Season greetings to you and your entire family in the Gregorian Calendar.

saddler:
Where did you dig up these new lies about Oduduwa from?

You accuse the other guy of being a revisionist and yet out of the blue you come up with a new story about the origin of Oduduwa completely different from what has been promoted and written over the years.

What happened to the story of Oduduwa coming from Mecca?

And the believe by yoruba cultural traditions that he fell from the sky?

How do you get your own Igodo historical information about Owodo ?

Th I am interested in it because if indeed Igodo know the origin of Oduduwa, tell us the history of Ogun the man and not the deity.

How many houses founded Igodomigodo ?

Are Urhobo groups part of ancient Igodomigodo ?

Who were the efas in Igodomigodo ?

Who were the Ikas in Igodomigodo land ?

What is the version of how the king's sword got in Biniland ?

Whose house gives the sword to Oba Bini ancestrally ?

Clearly, in scholarly world, linguistic trait is part of determining where ethnic identity is from or aptly if a superior group came to another group's land and impose her language in that land and intermarried with the locals.

This is how you can understand how migration of people can be determined or possibility of it.

Un Ecology of language,studies has shown that a superior teacher's language can affect weak learner's ethnic group language in the hand of such superior teacher's language, if migration or contact arises for whatever reason.

Some examples, the Yoruba language infiltrate Igodomigodo language, in which traces of Yoruba language mixed up with Igodomigodo.

Ibo language having contact with Yoruboid language which makes some Ibo lexicon becomes corruptly pronounced in one way or the other which easily makes such cognates.

Another example is imposition of English language by the British colonialist who use her language as a means of communication in her colonies.

Interestingly, Yoruba language has a means of survival in Nigeria because of Ifaodu( highly detailed sacred memoir of Yoruba religious beliefs and worldview. Besides, the English language borrowed a lot from the Hebrew and the Hebrew-Arabic are enshrined in Yoruba Ifaodu.

The same can be said about Hausa language and her people of a high probability of survival though with heavy influence from Arabic language.etc

Plainly , Oduduwa has history in ifaodu and also in Ileife. So Erroneously information that has littered made it looks like Oduduwa the man is not Yoruba but Edo ? Mind you, Edo people lied or their scholars or kings courtyard historians lied about Oduduwa being on throne when Ileife was visited by the Edo chiefs. Oduduwa the man was long gone.

In between, I am waiting for your answers.

Christistruth00:

There are information that I couldnt post due to avoidance of being banned because BOT.

So, this is certainly the reason I skipped some information. Peradventure, I have not answered some question of yours, then take time to ask me one after the other and I shall do justice to it if such information is within my grip.

Meanwhile, I will prefer a thread on Oduduwa or a Yoruba and not posting resourceful information as this on Edo supremacy thread.

Hence, ask me questions on Yoruba thread.

Cheers

absoluteSuccess:
Amen, thanks,

I know exactly what you are doing. I should leave the substance and chase after the shadow. What better way to protect true friends? I really appreciate.

Can you threaten someone on the phone when you are planning to harm the same person? Only fools does that, not the experience killers and terrorists.

I will take you back on memory lane. A year ago when this man make the post below, he was speaking from what has happened in the year 2019, in the month of September.



I want to believe you can read and digest the "phobia" you are looking for here just in case you are not part of the conspiracy. There are many wolf in sheep's clothing. Don't worry, by their fruits you shall know them.

You can ask your friend to present a work of his, written with the impeccable expertise he's demanding above. Except he's an expert at destroying others asking them for what he's incapable of daring himself.

For it beats my imagination how one random man who discusses history will make himself the eternal enemy of another man for 8 productive years without rest and breakthrough.

What's that man doing with his life? Saving another man from embarrassment? And calling such a "mad man" is that also saving the person from embarrassment too?

I think that should be your question for him, not my phobia as I don't parade phobia anywhere. I promote my awesome findings about the Yoruba and other related topics.



How did the man got the inkling I could know who he is if he's never crossed my path somehow? Is there any evidence I have any interest in him anyway? No, I don't know him beyond this forum.



Now @ the bolded, this is the substance.

I have my phone number on this site, I have a backlink to my blog on this site. But, can anyone locate me easily with this two information?

Am I living on my blog or my phone number is also my house address? At what point did I offer this information to your friends? How did this fellow got these much about me and WHY?

Why did he not say the same thing about you in his post above when you are the one who knew him in person? So he's saying what he's done already, and you are saving a friend.

A man who could go to the length of getting everything about someone he hated with passion (without the target knowing) is a killer. He could only have gotten such information through deception.

HOW DID HE GOT ALL MY INFORMATION?

The only person I have ever met and given my business and personal details was a man called Ayobami Aremu, he was introduced to me by another stranger known as Timothy Ogundele.

I gave him my product leaflet which has my shop address at iyana-Ipaja garage, and my product with my shop address at Egbeda. I wrote my name and bank account details at the back of the product leaflet.

He took three of my products and promised to transfer N1500 to me, hence I gave him my bank details. He never did. I gave him the product while marketing myself to him as a producer of curative Herbs.

I brought out the product when he asked me, "what have you produced?". So he said he will try it and get back to me. And that I should write about myself and post the details to him. That's where I felt it's getting too much.

What this guy (Timothy Ogundele) didn't know is that I saved his contact, that's what betrayed his details to me. And God so good, he reacted to the post I made attacking his psychopathic WhatsApp profile picture.

He's denied ever knowing me. I wonder how I got his number and that of his friend. Interestingly, the fellow is on nairaland. As for those calamity crew, is it a bad idea to call the numbers on this thread to say something?

Now, I wonder why that "kind but anonymous" nairalander trying to help me in life failed to clean his number from my accusation after I've made it known to him through the WhatsApp.

Now he didn't know me but wanted to help me originally. The same thing his calamity crew are still pretending to want to do, buy my product in cartons, can you convict someone for that?

Please bro, I want to beg you to stop insulting my sensibility. I'm not speaking anything else than what I've been saying. Even my calling him Ekundayo was used as ruse in the above but thank God for Facebook.

There's a police IPO already handling the matter and Lagos State Police command is aware of this issue, with my address and all that, I don't need to be running helter skelter to trace people who are not lost.

So far so good, I've not contradicted myself, I've not confused anyone. I've not lied against anyone either. I have no reason to do so. Please don't contradict me for the love of God.

Thanks.

I have read through the post and didn't loose a sight of any. So, be rest assured I have seen your statement without curiosities though calm deciphering.

What however draw more attention of mine is the bolded at the tail end of your post. Anyway,I have no intention of contradicting you but only advised you to make report of it at the Police Station ,which you have stated clearly that you had done such,which is the best as far as I can think.

In the aftermath of this challenges do I still wish you all the best in the forthcoming Gregorian calendar year. Be safe always.



Cheers

Pained man, post the burial of Odùduwa in Ileife if you have information of it. I post what I know.

Yes,it's not a must to be semitic but itis a must to correct the anomalies of wrong language grouping. In as much Yoruba language is found to be spoken in Ancient Egypt, Arabia land Israel.Then Yoruba history and place of origin is not in West Africa.

So, competing with information you have no knowledge on is as simple as you making fool of yourself. Afterall,your ancestor wasnt Eri .

Oranmiyan's ancestors forebear was known as Eri Ogun and remained his descendants ancestor. Infact,his paternal cousins, extended families have Eri~~~~~~the warlord as their ancestor and as family members.

Below is the Eri meaning which is same with, Eri of Yoruba from present day.

Christistruth00:
I had this argument with Tao12 who believes that Oduduwa was born in the Ile Ife Area and she quoted Prof Akintoyes book which supported that idea but later on I read an article of Prof Biobaku which suggested that Oduduwa came from Arabia Area
But recently I have read that Nupe and Yoruba were of the same Origin and ancestry and actually Yorubas were Nupe who crossed river Niger to the South , well there is a Section of Nupe who are originally from Borno Kanuri’s Kukawa and the Kanuri Claim some of their ancestors migrated from Yemen as pagans
But where Tao12 May be right is that some researchers believe it was Nupe People from the Niger Area that migrated to Borno in the first Place and not the other way round , DNA evidence appears to support this idea
This means that because many Kanuri were originally from Nupe there was a lot of back and forth traffic between both Kingdoms it is Possible Oduduwa was originally Nupe of the Niger Area but moved back and forth between the Kanuri and Nupe Kingdoms after all he was an experienced Horseman

Oranmiyan crossed river Niger on his way to his Grandfathers Kingdom before Lajomo the Nupe King discouraged him and gave him his Daughter as wife who bore him Alaafin Sango the name Sango is also indigenous to Birom Plateau State People who also Claim a Kanuri Origin they too are unlettered

Yorubas have no writing originally and if Oduduwa was truly from Arabia and a Prince that would be almost impossible

https://disa.ukzn.ac.za/sites/default/files/pdf_files/asjan58.14.pdf

https://nationalsportslink.com.ng/amp/mamman-duguri-and-the-nupe-borno-connnection-by-ndagi-abdullahi/

There is no crime if you and Tao had a different perspective on Oduduwa being born and raised in Ileife. Even these professors need proof it beyond assumption.

Afterall there is a burial site which housed the family of Oduduwa with a burial pattern while the Oramfe descendants has too that are not even up to 1300 years old.

Therefore it is wrong to think Oduduwa was even alive during Òogún, Ọbálúfọn-Ogbogbodirin, Ọbálúfọn Atayéṣé and Ọrànmiyàn era.

Infact, there is an Odùduwa who came down from heaven directly in Ifáodù corpus that became king over all kings on earth. This personality was also attacked by Ọbátálà and it took the authority of Ẹlàà(Ọ̀rúnmìèlàà) to defeat Ọbátálà after displeasure of hearing Odùduwa had been given the authority to rule the earth.

My take of this misconception on these two different personality is that the Odùduwa was the the sacred powerful God whom is referred as Odù, the femine creative power of God whom women do not see eyeball to eyeball and IWA the perfection God.

It was supposedly after this first spirit being king that the earthly man closely identified as Eri Òogún and later Odùduwa assume the title.

While Òogúnwasregenttobemade there was a problem Ooni as king over all in Iléifẹ, he was usurped and when the families of Òogún could not have their way, Ogbogbodirin was picked from the town meeting and he became Olúfẹ.

It was during this period between Òogún before the reign of Ogbogbodirin that Ọrànmiyàn was always formenting trouble that he was sent to Igodo and the rest is history.

The point here is that there was no Odùduwa the pioneer overall king in Nigeria even was not even alive during Orànmiyàn. He lived in the BCE.

Furthermore, Òrànmiyan and other princes, such as a descent of ilàọràngún, owu etc were going to avenge the taken over of Orànmiyan and their ancestors land which was when they crossed over to River Niger and moved on but they turned back aroud Songhai Empire -Mali Empire due to distance.

It was when they were coming back they met stiff opposition from Empe(Tapa people), which he won alongside his cowarriors. This what led to Torosi(mother) of Itiolú Ṣàngó ,whom he made his wife. This where Katunga was taken over by Yorubas.

So,Yorubas were intermarried to Tapa and not that they were all Yorubas. Òogún has no meaning in Tapa language as found in Yoruba. The farther you go up North , you will understand.

Beside, four houses begun in Ileife,in which I will mention them as following

Ilé Omirin
Ilé Òogún
Ilé Ugbo
Ilé Odikéjì

Lastly, there is a information that suggest that Eri is same as Eri that is written about in the Semitic account because the name means the same. This is not because Yoruba do not know they were migrants but because certain scholars do not see reason Yoruba should be given the rightful position in the committee of nation. Ifáodù is actually what begun monotheism God called Àle or Èle (Mighty)

Christistruth00

I have seen whom you quoted. While the account mention Oduduwa as the unifying king who merged the thirteen settlements together, under himself. He was not a lord overall until the decision was arrived at,during the time of the seven Elu(s) and six Ife(s)

I however still insist Oduduwa original home and many other people were not actually here in Nigeria. They were purely migrants to present day Nigeria. Ileife in Nigeria was originally a cosmopolitan city to even foreigners who came overthere and inter married.

Below is fact that the 350 Bce radiocarbon (Folster in Ozanne, 1969:32),cited by by both Ogundiran(2002, pc) and Drewal(2009:80) has been rejected by renowned scholars such as professor Susan Blier,Frank willet 2004 and others for lack of evidence.

shigishege:
I'm actually from ile ife. Even if apart from this olugbo topic, I peraonally find these your explanation very very useful and I have stored them in my achieve as an historical explanations of ile ife which, will guide me in knowing more of my town. Pls do share more information you may have about any other historical details about ile ife, I will be glad to learn from you. Thanks and God bless you.

Thanks for your thought. One's home is always one's home. And I will always do my best to post original information from ileife, no matter whose ox is gored.

shigishege:
Ile Odua a gbe o. Thank you for sharing this. That town is my root of course. But it seems this olugbo is interested in something he has not made public.

Aṣẹ́ wà ní ti Ọ̀rúnmièlàà.
Olúgbò has been told false information hence he thinks his ancestor, Oramfẹ is the Óoni which is false. while in his root where Ọbamakin came out from who were led by Ọbálúrú, the over all king of all Ọramfẹ descendants acknowledged and wọ́rí to Adé Ogún from Ọmọológún's clan (Ọbadio)

Ọrànmìyàn ancestors throne was ursuped which led to the return of Ọrànmìyàn who took back the throne and Lajàmísan consolidated thereafter. Adé Aaré belong only to Éri Ògún groups and solely theirs but you see false information everywhere except in in iIéifẹ,where it is explicitly known that the throne belongs to Ògún.

This the reason correction of these false information is being shared because they discovered there is no need for such secrecy since erroneously information is in circulation. So, Olúgbó can never wear Aaré crown. Ṣééṣéẹfun is the Crown Ólúgbó and his ancestors, families.

Moblux:
None of the questions I raised has been responded to.

Let others who know answer some of the questions.

Was there any Ọlọ́yọ́ before Ọ̀rànmìyàn ?
No, there were none to be precise. However, empe (Nupe) were not too far from the earliest settlement to the place where Ọ̀rànmìyàn settled down.

History has it that Ọ̀rànmìyàn was said to be on vengeance to a people who fought against his ancestors through to Mali region but he , and his older cousin Olówu as that period and warriors princes abandoned the movement which led to his establishment of Ẹyọ.

Thereafter, the Empe people and their overlord decided to fight against these Yoruba elements where he Ọ̀rànmìyan and his co princes as earlier mentioned defeated the Empe people ,where there was a pact signed between the Yoruba and the Empe.

This led to the birth of Itiolú known as Ṣàngó through the daughter of king of Empe.
Ṣàngó was an adopted Alias by Itiólú who reigned after Dada AJaka(Ajàsa).

Dada Ajàsa(Ajàka) was the first crown king after Ọ̀rànmìyàn went back to Iléifẹ. Ọlọ́yọ́ Dada was able to trap the thunderstorms power used by Itiólú. Unfortuntely he was not loved because he preferred diplomatic solution to problem than warring. A peace loving King which he pursued till death at a ripe old age as a king who ruled twice.


During his first rule,he was abducted by Owu warriors but was later released and commanded to pay tributary to Owu. This was the reason he was called a weakling and was told to vacate the seat of authority which he did without much challenges, which ushered in Itiólú alias Ṣàngó.

Christistruth00:
Basorun is Prime Minister

Smiles! Prime minister is what position to a king? I know you are comme il faut my dear brother, so there is no need to footdrag it. Ọ̀ṣọ̀rún is the position that became known as báṣọ̀rún.

The English's form of a second in command as a prime minister to the Queen or King of Britain, even if Yoruba understood the purposeful interpretation of Ọ̀sọ̀rún in her own context.

The reason is that Báṣọ̀rún in Yoruba hierachial system is not to be compared to the Britain's monrchial system. Although as Báṣọ̀rún, he has some limited power which he carries out through the command of the king.

christistruth01:
I read it in an old History book that Bashorun GA's Great Grandfather was Bariba and that his Oriki mentioned it

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Okay,I got your point but Gahà was not an ibariba man. Ibariba do not speak Yoruba language talkless of becoming Báṣọ̀rún.

The title of Báṣọ̀rún itself is a very high positon in Yoruba land. Infact, the position anciently is second in command to kings in Yoruba land,despite the fact that such personality cannot be king due to strict royalty bloodline to thrones in ancient times.

Plainly there are misinformation here and there on Yoruba history due to some erroneously egocentrism from some quarters. Anyway,Yoruba history is not hidden even if some people try to mislead the public.

christistruth01:
Please did you get the information from a book and which ones


Basorun Gaa from. his Oriki was of Bariba Descent

So was Soun Ogbomosho

What is Oriki that posits him as Ibariba ? Shed more light on it.

absoluteSuccess:
Amen to your prayers Sir. I can't agree with you less that the Nigeria Police have to be at the forefront of this investigation. I also have right to continue to furnish them with my findings.

The command is monitoring the development, that I can assure you. Nonetheless, I understand that criminals are presumed innocent until a crime is committed, whence they become prime suspects.

If caught and convicted, such criminals will never walk freely, ever again. But if that be the case, can that bring the dead back to life? So I'm the Chief security officer to protect my life from them.

Here, I am feeding the public with the development. The public are taking mental notes and those who have been following the story could be anybody anywhere. This thread is also a legal document.

The enemies are clever, they don't threat, they don't talk, they get your location and time your movements, then they either abduct or lure you with baits to a convenient location and you find yourself in the jungle.

In that instance, they are off the crime radar as your disappearance don't input any crime on them. Such undercover criminals will be about their plot as long as the best opportunity to strike present itself.

What's The Purpose of This Thread?

The purpose of this thread is to be my own witness to the crime against me and my family just in case anything happens to me, however long or short as a matter of time.

This thread is well circulated in all the group I belonged to on the social media, on the WhatsApp platforms and within my neighborhood, associations as well as the church.

"When the enemy comes in like a flood, the Spirit of God will lift up a standard against them"


I can't be haunted by anything in this life. I've hurt nobody and will never hurt anyone. But I will not die like a fool. I will not fold my hands and be cowered by adversaries because they seems to be stronger than me, never.

I don't have any criminal tendency, I don't involve in any shady deals online or offline. I have a blog visited by thousands and have equally sold thousands and have no return or complain from any source.

It's my enemy that my post will haunt for life.

I am unafraid of what my enemies plans for me. Had it been they have me first, they would do the worst for me. I am not to be touched or harmed, because doing this will haunt anyone who dare touch me.

I don't belong to any cult, I'm a Christian. God is good enough for me. Won d'oyi k'apa apa o k'apa, won d'oyi k'ose, apa o k'ose, won d'oyi ka kanga, kanga o see binu kosi.

I blocked you on my WhatsApp contact because I don't get your standpoint. And since you are repeating the same point, I think you are validating my concerns. Where else do you want me to look to as source of threat?

What's the benefit of this people to you that I am supposed to have a second thought and feel the guilt of error of judgement? Have they done some good that I'm repaying with evil?

You don't deny the threat, but you are denying the source. So I should be worried for my life but find someone else to hold responsible because you can vouch for these men?

What is it that will haunt me? Already, that prediction is ongoing. So, what else to be afraid of? I should stop posting about the development and leave it to the police.

Hmm okay I heard you boss. I remembered that the syndicate mentioned your name, and my concerns for you helped me figure it out on the Yoruba direct meaning thread.

At first, I err on the name to the prime suspect, but Facebook validated the name that the syndicate gave me. It simply means that their cup is full.

I'm omo Ose, it's a covenant. You can't touch me and get away with it, hence this. Oluwa re ti fi Ose yi ara re dandan. Ose ti yi awon ti won nlo lati maa pemi gbonmogbonmo bi kasinkan.

I have their list with the police, down to Ms. Adebare, who was on night watch on Thursday at my house. She didn't leave until I came back home.

Nigeria is one of the most terrorised country in the world, it's not a rocket science that online terrorists will also come along. If everyone is dead scared, we will lose our freedom.

Anyway, my prayer is that may God Almighty expose every evil plans of the enemies upon your life.


Lastly, use the phone conversation between you and these people to track them. Afterall you once said, there were calls you received from these suspected personalities.

absoluteSuccess:
A sensible human being reading this kind of report will advise safety first, then study the allegations and past exchanges between the two people involved to place their conclusion.

Except we want to pretend crime happens by accident to people who are mentally sick. If not, one should not be ignorant of the devices of the wicked.

They are in their best hurting their victims. It's what the psychopaths enjoy the most. I'm of sound mind and keen spirit, I will overcome. I will lose nothing to my sworn adversaries.

Greater years ahead from my innermost desire to seeing you in the future in great enthusiasm.

Albeit, I do not know the phobia in your heart but certainly, no one sees threat to his life and not fight to save it from evil minds across the four element of life. So, be steadfast in prayer and safety consciousness.

Although like I had repeated in the past, your point has been made even for future references which this thread needs no further input from you as it regards the mentioned suspect and his syndicate since you seem convinced he is behind it all but what about if he is not ? Such heart guilt will haunt you as well.

So, it is indeed better to let CID of the Nigerian Police take up the case and solve it once and for all. Instead of this unnecessary jabs from different quarters. Please, do not let it go from the firm grip of the Police in solving the issue but let it be off the hook on this platform.

Finally,I wish you all the best in all your effort.

Cheers,

Wulfruna:
You opened this thread probably because you want input, and I will continue to air my honest-to-God opinions.

For two months - two entire months! - someone has been trying to kill you. In that time, all he seems to have done is to allegedly have people show up on your estate or follow you around. The only physical confrontation that has happened in all this time was one that YOU initiated. (You probably attacked an innocent man, by the way; I just thought I should tell you.)

In the meantime you've inundated us here with long rambling posts that will make interesting reading for students of clinical psychology. The truth is not hard to see here. I myself have had instances where I felt I was being followed around and that people were watching my house. In the end, nothing like that was happening: I. Was. Simply. Paranoid.

And so are you. For whatever reason.

May the help you need come to you.

Your input can either be a good one or a bad one. So, it does not matter if you decide to showcase your personal view.

Let me just posit here that, rather than you being a judge, better be a reader of the thread and move instead of unnecessary bruhaha on a sensitive issue that involves life and death.

Meanwhile, for whatever reason, this is actually not within my comfort zone but anyway, there are always two sides to a coin.

Furthermore, your case is just a déjà vu ascompared to his own because, being a paranoid is not same as his own case.

Afterall he has some form of evidence; which may or may not indict Macof if he is not part of the syndicate trying so hard to hurt this man claiming threat to his life.

Therefore, be mild in your approach with ingenious advise to solving his phobia since death is inevitable but "everyone" with high degrees of productivity desires a fulfilled long life on earth.

Moblux:
I am creating the thread to discuss Pre Oduduwa history.

1. Does anyone has a list of 97 Olufes that reigned before Obatala the 98th Olufe who was Oduduwa's predecessor?

2. Can someone explain more about Orile Oko where Ajaka and Sango were born and the possible location?

3. Does anyone has a list of Oloyos before Oranmiyan became their king?

4. What is the veracity of Oduduwa's war expedition to Egypt, Sudan, and Yemen where he was purportedly conferred the title "Adimula" (corrupted version of Admiral) ?

5. What are the original 16 Oriki Orile?

6. What is the place of Orile Oba (now Oba Ile close to Akure) in Pre Oduduwa history?

7. What is the connection between the Ashantis in Ghana and Pre-Oduduwa's Ile Ife?

8. Is there a connection between Oba and Oko in the southeast of Nigeria with Oba and Oko of pre-Oduduwa's history?

9. Did Herodotus write about Ife as the Atlantis in his book written in about 500 BC?

10. Was the Ejigbomekun market in Ile Ife the largest market in the sub-Saharan region circa the Oduduwa period?

I have other questions but I wish to stop here for now. I really want to learn

cc:
Obalufon
Olu317

The original ileife history is quite different from what many writers wrote about which support the fact that odua ancestors were also involved in the affairs of the Elus.

The account of previous rulers had nothing to do with odua era because there were seven Elus and six ifẹs when Odua was chosen to be a unified king even with the challenge therein. He eventually becamethefirst unifying Oni(owner)ifẹ.

These seven Elus and six ifẹs were the settlement which became unified under a supreme overlord known as odua from Eri Ogun(human), the owner of Arẹ crown. This is the reason Oni wears Arẹ crown once a year to venerate Ogún, the irùnmọlẹ̀ on the day, light appear to light the world through his path.

This man was part of Odua ancestors whose name is among the oldest name in the ancient settlement in Ileife whose son, odua eventually became the crowned the king of all kings.

It is to be stated here that Obaluru is over all king of all Oramfe descendants wherever they are in the world,even Obamakin descendants such as Olugbo must honour Obaluru as their supreme king.

Here below were the settlement during the era of odua:
IFE MEFA...were:
1. Obalufe.
2. Obajio.
3. Obaloran.
4. Obadio
5. Lokore.
6. Apata.

B. ELU MEJE..were:
1. Obaluru.
2. Obalesun
3. Ompetu.
4. Obawara.
5. Obalaaye.
6. Obalejugbe.
7. Fegun

Courtesy: Ootu land

Cheers

LiberatedGirl:
Ori mi La La......Thank You so much for the History behind Ori. My art teacher at the time just said Ori has to do with the concept of the importance of the head to Yoruba peeps. And because the head is important Yoruba sculptures gave the head prominence. It's like the Egyptian Eye and why all Pharoahs, Kings and Queens wore Black Eye Shadow to represent the importance of the Eye in terms of religion and vision.and wisdom. I don't know anything about Yoruba god's or Orishas. Ori symbolism to me is just the importance of the head in Life. So my Art Teacher was Right the head is important because it occupies the brain.

Art historians are the ones who always misinterprete the core tradition of Yoruba conceptualisation of ORÍ "Head", simply because they try to equate these Yoruba head sculptures with European counterparts.

Only Yoruba Ifá priests or devotees of Òrìṣà ORÍ can vividly speak accurately on it,since the purpose of these HEAD speaks more than the way European Art historians thinks of the Head from a simpler angle.

So, I do not blame at all in all of it. Anyway, enjoy your time outthere and be focus.



Cheers

Truvelisback:
Lion is the king of all animals. Jesus is refered as The Lion of the tribe of Judah. The lion is more significant than Leopard, even the Bible.

So your own Jesus drinks or licks blood ? I hope one day some of guys will realise,those Europeans who wrongfully documented some false information on this Jesus shall be corrected, so that some of you people will stop behaving as programmed humanbeings.

Perhaps, can you post any classic visual Art
where lion was referenced by the Hebrew from time immemorial.

Furthermore,a male lion is a selfish gay with non caring characteristic towards its cubs and kills other cubs which aren't its own. Is this who your own falsely documented Jesus personality resembles ? It is better you learn more and stop making unnecessary point where such exists not.

IkpuMmadu:
lies and lies

I live in Lagos and they don't call ogiri




Stop this lies

......

ify01:
Source:

Talkafric

This statement is relative to the ethnic group which believe in such. Lion commands bravery in Yoruba folklore as Leopard as well as cheetahbut not the king of animal in Yoruba folklore. Elephant is the king of Land animal in Yoruba folklore.

LiberatedGirl:
No Not All. I like my Face Alot. Im trying to do something different.
Ancient Traditional Yoruba have a Concept called " Ori " in their Art. In Yoruba Sculpture the head is made to be a Quarter of the entire work of art. In real life a head is a 8th -10th of the entire body.

Well you have right to be whoever you so desire. Albeit,Ori (heavenly head-innerhead-spiritulahead) is not a form of Art in Yoruba tradition. Instead, it is a description of the importance of God in one's life. Purely a religion symbol when you see these visual ancient heads of Yoruba ancestors.

Orí is identified as the spot in heavenly realm where mankind individually pick up fate that befall such when one is born through the years on lives on earth be it in success or failure. Aptly,there is no Orí that is bad in heaven when coming to Earth but misbehavior on earth is a lead to how successful one is on earth

Orí as it is known is also called Ẹl'ẹdá because that is one's creator. And only Orí can make one become president or richest person on earth.

Infact whatever Orí reject on earthly sacrifice to appease for one's success or aversion ofnsome form of calamities, no other Òrìṣà can say otherwise because Orí is the superior to other Òrìṣàs and the supreme Òrìṣà in all individual life.

Lastly, I wish you well in all your endeavor but connect with your original Orí so as to be more fulfilled as you delve in an area which is tasking.


Cheers

oyatz:
Alufa is a Yoruba word derived from Arabic to denote a priest.

Arabic written form itself developed anew through Hebrew's doctrine of God about 512CE. So, the word Alfa was also found in Ancient Hebrew that is older in documentation than Arabic as Luph/Liph(lufa),which is also simiiar to Olifa/Onifa whichisPriests of Ifa (Oluifa without contraction).

Yoruba language is complex and very old historically. Infact, Babalawo as word whichmeans, "one who is a member of Yoruba religious sect tohelp verify";priest came to into existence around 1940s through Abeokuta people.

This name had no been in existence before until 1940s and today, Adifa or adafa has become in usage as well for Yoruba priests. While pasito has also become used for pastor( christian) priest,which is derived from English word

IkpuMmadu:
lies and lies

I live in Lagos and they don't call ogiri




Stop this lies

Are you really here for fun or to learn? Perhap, you're a young person having unnecessary Ibo egocentrism without fact.

I am sure Ibo dictionary came up much later than Yoruba's, which also had some form of input through Samuel Ajai Crowther in standardising the Roman Latin lettering's adoption by the Ibos of Modern day Eastern Nigeria.

The third set of Yoruba dictionary was produced through the Church Missionary Society bookshop in 1913, which was produced earlier in 1911 , as an English -Yoruba Dictionary, under the General Editorship of Rev. E. J Sowande, which was intended to meet immediate needs. This was after the first set that was published in1852 had all the copies exhausted.

Here below is the screenshot of Ògìrì, which means: flavouring extracted from melon seeds to make soup, stew etc more delicious.