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Culture › Re: The Oluyares: The Igbo Aborigines Of Ife Who Still Live There by Olu317(m): 12:22pm On May 23, 2017

igbodefender:
Please, Sir, go and study more of Yoruba history before typing things that put you in bad light, even among people who support your position. You are showing that there is a deep abysds where basic Yoruba history should be in your tank of knowledge. Go and read up or do some research or something to put you up to speed, then come and comment on Nairaland or wherever.

Which true Yoruba historian would attempt to infer that Owu was not fathered by Obatala as you did above? And please, go to an Ifa priest and tell him there is nothing like Obi Osere Igbo and see what would happen. Lol.

Finally, what's with the 'dear' you typed up there. Please, kindly take it out.

I mentioned dear because it does more honour to be humble despite my silver lining. You only replied by showing YOU DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE.SO KINDLY TAKE AWAY NONREALISTIC INFORMATION YOU SEND ONLINE OUT OF YORUBA HISTORY. I CHALLENGE YOU TO DOLE OUT INFORMATION THAT SHOWS “ONETARA" IN YORUBA LAND. PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP OFF FROM WHAT YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ON.

Culture › Re: Canada Invites Ooni To 150th Independence Anniversary by Olu317(m): 12:14pm On May 23, 2017

[quote author=Xda59 post=56777038][/quote]Who is this one sending nonsense information? IYASE IS A SLAVE TITLE,WHOSE POSITION WAS THIRD IN HIERARCHY IN BINI. ARE YOU NOW FIT TO TELL MY STORY? YOU BETTER GO SIT SOMEWHERE AND MOURN FOR YOU FACELESS EKERLADEHAN THAT URHOBO DON'T EVEN KNOW. WHY IS BINI THE ONLY GROUP THAT KNOWS THE HISTORY OF ODU'A AS A EDO?

IF IYASE WAS A SLAVE LINEAGE,WHO THEN WERE THE ORIGINAL EDOS? OLOTON(OLOTA) CAME WITH ORANMIYAN TO BINI. MENTION ORIGINAL EDOS WITHOUT YORUBA CONNECTION.

Culture › Re: The Oluyares: The Igbo Aborigines Of Ife Who Still Live There by Olu317(m): 11:26am On May 23, 2017

igbodefender:
Sir, it's either you know the truth and you are trying desperately to hide it or you don't know the truth. Now let me tackle your last post. You say that the first Olowu (Ajibosin) was born by Odua's daughter. Now that is a big.... TRUTH. Now let me ask you, who was the father, who was the husband of this Oduduwa's daughter? he was non other than Obatala, the Oba Igbo, the Obi Osere Igbo, the King of the Igbo Nation. Let me stop here for now, but take a look at the except below:

Obatala: Husband of the first princess of Ile-Ife, Iyunade, and father of Ajibosin, the first Olowu. He was also the Ifa High Priest and Spiritual Consultant to Oduduwa among many other monarchs in the now the West African sub-region. Ifa divination ability was second nature to Obatala being reportedly the son and scholar of Agbonmiregun Setilu, the acclaimed Ifa progenitor from Nupeland. Obatala also had considerable farming interests as the owner of vast cotton plantations located adjacent to the River Niger in the Savannah region, presumably acquired from his vast earnings as an International Ifa Consultant – which earned him the appellation of ‘Olowu’ or cotton owner.

Obatala was larger than life and was no less prominent than Oduduwa, the acclaimed patriarch of the Yorubas. In fact, he has been deified as the head and oldest of the Orishas who created the physical world at the behest of Olodumare.It is also claimed that Obatala had arrived Ile-Ife down a mythical chain long before Oduduwa arrived by similar means, and ruled the people before the latter came to stage a civil war which deposed Obatala as leader. The two were later reconciled and Obatala agreed to assist Oduduwa’s reign through his Ifa Divination.

Oduduwa granted his first daughter, Iyunade, to the Ifa High Priest perhaps as part of their truce concessions.As a roving Ifa consultant, Obatala became very wealthy and invested heavily in vast land holdings in the savannah region which he employed in cotton farming, an occupation that earned him the appellation of Baba-Olowu (cotton lord). Ajibosin was to inherit a large chunk of these which formed the bedrock of his original Owu Kingdom at the fringe of the Nupe country.As an Orisha, Obatala has some of the largest followings and worshippers both at home and in the Diaspora, being matched perhaps only by Orisha Ogun and Sango adherents.

Source: https://owulakoda./2014/02/28/owu-historical-facts-and-myths/

You lied my dear. There was nothing like obi osere. Useremagbo had nothing to do with you people. Get it to your medulla oblongata. Who told you, Obatala was the direct Priest? How many priests existed during Odua period? You make me laugh . This is because, you have begun to turn up as Edo to look for information to hinge on. Kindly inform me more on what you know about the family that made up of ILE IFE? You know nothing bro. If you claim they are Ibos, how come ILE IFE don't have knowledge of ONETARA OF THE IBOS?
If you don't have information to this,then silence yourself. Apart from the information I screenshot,let me inform you that Yoruba language is coded in IFA. So, do yourself the needful.

Culture › Re: The Oluyares: The Igbo Aborigines Of Ife Who Still Live There by Olu317(m): 6:50am On May 23, 2017

igbodefender:
And how are you so sure it is not the present day Igbos? The distance between Ife, Osun State and Ife, IMO State is not that far (they are both in Southern Nigeria).

Yes, the Ugbo are among the Ife aborigines referred to as Igbo by Yoruba history, but research shows that they aren't the only aborigines of Ife. You also have the Owu, the Anioma (Ugbodu, Onicha -Orisa- Ugbo, Ugbokko Araba- like Idi Araba in Eko, etc.), and many other groups that today are either Igbo or Yoruba.

But when Oduduwa The Great arrived in Ife, these are the people he met- ruled by Obatala, the Oba Igbo, the Obi Osere Igbo.

As for what you said about Olukumi, the only place it is spoken indigenously in Africa is in Aniocha Local Government, deep in today's Igbo land.

You are WRONG about OWU as well as your PERCEPTION OF OLUKUNMI /OLUKUMI. No Yoruba will deny that Olukumi are from Yoruba offshoot and has nothing to do with “UGBO". People been referred to at the period when rebel came up prominently at ILE IFE were few members of Obamakin family, who was a descendant of Obatala. And they invaded ILE IFE marketplace and stole goods, kidnapped ILE IFE people as well being dressed like moving bushes .They were covered in Raffia and were marauders. As you can see, they were part of ILE IFE group from the beginning before the rebellion. As for Owu, he was born by Odu'a 's daughter. How can you now come up with information you don't know? Stop all these connection with Ibos. It seems ,you are from OLUKUMI because, the way you kept dragging Yoruba of Olukumi and connecting them with Ibos is just uncalled for and a waste of time.

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Culture › Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(op): 1:34pm On May 22, 2017*

MetaPhysical:
Olu,
Allow me to digress a little and talk about the mechanism of sound production in the mouth.

When you inhale air in the lungs it expands the sacks which causes displacement in the diaphragm and this pushes the stomach to swell. Exhale follows the reverse. We need air to speak. In speaking, air gushes out of the throat (the voice box) but it has no form or accent until it gets in the mouth. The inter-working mechanisms of ear, nose, teeth and tongue uses the air to shape and produce words and accents. If a person looses couple of teeth in their mouth their ability to roll, slip, twist and twirl the air pressure diminishes and it can become difficult to understand them, even though theyve been with us for many many years.

You mentioned African Americans and they have been in America a period of 300yrs and they know no other language but English, yet, their mouth mechanisms work exactly as that of the Black Africans.

I bring this up to dismantle arguments on tonal vs root verbiage and dispell that as a temporary shift not relevant to historical ancestry and etymology of words.

I dont know if it was you or 9jakool relating Araba and Rabbi as non-related. They are cognates and share root.

R equates to celestial and divine
Ori, Orisha, Orun (sky), Orun (sun), Irawo, Aroko, Oro

B equates to reward, birth, that which was in growth and accumulation and manifest in a breakthrough
Ebi (birth), Ebun, Ibu,

The principal letters conveying the phenomenon are R and B, so guess what Araba mean....
That which issued forth from a divine, in other words anointed! This is exactly what Rabbi is.

While Rabbi and Araba are geodistant apart, the ancient use and denotion are colocated.

The whole purpose of man-God relationship is "righteousness".

The vehicle to attain righteousness are varied and thats what the different modes of worship are.

Why righteousness?
Because the template of creation was at one point soiled, and ever since our consciousness has busied itself trying to clean it up...which brings us to atonement.

The rituals of cleansing include animal sacrifice and other things which open the awareness and consciousness, hitherto blocked.

Abraham lived under a divine law. Those laws have the dos and donts. To remain righteous and on the side of divine grace he had to observe those laws. Whatever creeds and laws they were, these formed his worship. But who brought and implemented that practice? Noah.

Adam was referred as the creation of God. Abraham was friend of God. Noah was the righteous of God.

Noah began a new world order of creation, humanity and righteousness. His grandson, Lamurudu began the Yoruba lineage that continued with Oduduwa and the 7 children and 16 grandchildren that today sit on thrones that rule our land.

Some of our divine link to Noah
1 - Omoluabi (Omo Nua bi or Omo Noah bi) which stand for lineage of a righteous people.

2- Aroko to seal contracts - Covenant of the Ark

3 - Sovereingty of land - Release of the dove over water. Ooni performs this rite every year to praise Olokun.

4 - Altar for burnt offering

5 - The use of two of same specie to symbolize a conciliation between spirit and matter. Birth of twins and their cult in Yorubaland.

Some of these were passed down through Abraham to his descendants but majority were learned and acquired in Egypt when Children of Israel were in bondage and also looting the land and temples after sacking the Canaans from their land.

Abraham was also known as anif. Compare to onifa, an adherent of Ifa.

Yes, I was the one that mentioned ARABA as having similarities to the function they perform. We all know, human beings descended from Noah. But specifically, Yoruba are offspring of Abraham and not LAMURUDU/NIMROD. This is because Nimrod was not a A high Priest but Terah that served under him. After that Abram was born as a direct son of Terah. If you try decode Omo lu a bi as the interpretation of Noah's righteousness. I don't have a problem with it because Shem was one that took the greatest blessing of Noah. He was a prophet after his father Noah, if we go through his account very well. This explains the reason Terah could take after him. It is based and the account of the original story of Adimula that I have been able to pin the identity of Adimula from the land of Egypt ,where they lived before migration toward this direction. So, in a short form, Lamurudu was not the father of Yoruba because he was a proud warrior. The account that happened that is close to the killing of a king called Josiah.

Culture › Re: . by Olu317(m): 5:53am On May 22, 2017

absoluteSuccess:
What does eko mean? Name?

What does yehn mean? Pertaining to?

Hulu? The land of?

Eyan? People of?

These sounds familiar.

Yoruba's ÚLÚ is archaic to ILÚ which is a word for Community /Town/state/Country to which one belongs or other belong. It is used at times used as descriptive word to aid another. For example ÚLÚ/ILÚ EKO, ÚLÚ/ILÚ OYO. Gbo gbo is more accurately used for “ALL" in Yoruba land. For example, gbo gbo omo ÚLÚ/ILÚ= ALL The citizens of the community, state, etc.

Culture › Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(op): 10:46pm On May 21, 2017

9jakool:
Nahhhh

Keep that to yourself lol.

Of course bro,certain things are indeed to be kept personally. But I decided to open certain part because of the misinformation peddled around. Many people will see the part that I have mentioned about O'ODUA descendants. And those that have BINI's orientation will begin to think twice before they spew out trash. Then I expect you to do more research bro. It has nothing to do with attachment to the LAND of Israel but knowing one's original history and being proud of it. You see T.B JOSHUA RELOCATING TO ISRAEL. Some people will claim that it was because of the problem he has with Nigeria's government. But alas, Nigeria government are begging him to stay aback. If T. B Joshua has bad reputation, will Israelis government want to have anything to do with him ? IN FACT THEY ARE ANXIOUS TO ACCEPT HIM. DO YOU KNOW WHY HE WENT THERE? IF YOU ARE A DEEP YORUBA MAN, YOU WILL KNOW THAT NOTHING HAPPENS TO YORUBA PEOPLE WITHOUT WHAT WE CALL “KADARA " AND AYANMO. JUST WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITHIN FEW YEARS FROM NOW. YORUBA ARE SPECIAL PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE STUDIED OUR HISTORY WITH DETACHMENT.

Culture › Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(op): 10:28pm On May 21, 2017

MetaPhysical:
Olu,
Ifa preceded Abraham.
How did Abraham worship? How did he perform rites, did he have altar, shrine, temple?

I am tempted to disagree with you based on the detachment from what I have been able to see when I was a child and what I have been able to see and read when I became an adult. IFA has 16 codes which must be learned by the apprentice before he can be able to master it all if he is a very brilliant person and if not, it will take longer years. I detach myself because I do like to be a realist despite my genuine attachment to Yoruba tradition. Yoruba, history's attachment didn't preexist Abraham. If it did, how come Egypt is older than Yoruba Race? Do you doubt? No part of Yoruba land was occupied by anyone around 2000BC. Even Igbo ukwu radiocarbon testified to this. So,where do people get their information? Abraham started with the use of RAM as a sacrifice, why did Yoruba have such too? Yes, I have seen some people here trying to deviate from the truth because of the doubt about the impossibility of it being in existence in West Africa. If you claim that IFA, is older than Abraham's, then, where did Yoruba got the knowledge of exhuming dead bodies and reburial in another place? The first that the account was done was Joseph in the Bible. The Yoruba did it too. If you say the words and the codes existed before Abraham because it was all about God. Then I can agree with you but Abraham was through the history of God was made manifest. Moses wrote the Part of the Bible. In fact, part of the Bible specifically mentioned EVA/IFA being part of Mannasah idolatry worshipping when Northern Kingdom of Israel was captured. The idolatry that God referred in the olden days were reckless attachment to things instead of concentrating on God himself. The IFA codes can be learned by anyone because it is all about mastering the words and memorising them. And once any individual have problem(s), the priest is consulted for the solution ,then the relative atonement codes are chanted which will naturally surfaces on the tray used to communicate with the spiritual world . And after this is done, due to to conjuring the words to that effect. Solution aren't farfetched. That's how it is. How then do you think, It existed before Abraham, when in fact ,history of mankind properly begun in the city of Babel when the world's language scattered with different tongues,according to the Bible. Where in IFA CODES DID IT EMPHASISED HOW WORLD LANGUAGE SCATTERED? I am waiting to learn from you my dear brother.

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Culture › Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(op): 9:13pm On May 21, 2017

9jakool:
You are overthinking everything. It's coincidence and that's all. Jewish are Middle Eastern. Yoruba are West Africans.

Smile. Part of your ancestors are in the American continents. These people are barely 200—400 years old where they found themselves. Many of them don't look like your West African structure .Imagine if people had lived in West Africa for almost 1200—1400 years, inter marrying with people they met.
Here is the Connection OF YORUBA DNA WITH MIDDLE EAST .Are these coincidence too? Go and do your findings on why Adimula descendants are connected to RAM SACRIFICING,EMPHATICALLY WHITE. I INFORM BECAUSE I AM SPECIFICALLY FROM THAT LINEAGE.

Cheers bro

Culture › Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(op): 8:37pm On May 21, 2017

9jakool:
It's called coincidence, nothing out of the ordinary.

Ok, cool. It was an independent evolution, that's all.

Oduduwa has nothing to do with Judah. ODU TO DA UWA. Judah actually comes from Yehuda meaning praised which has no relationship to oduduwa.

Yoruba people are from Africa so why won't there be shared DNA with other Africans. It's nothinjg shocking nor special.

The moment you pull up Arnold Josiah Ford was the moment I started to doubt the credibility of your findings.

Nahh, not at all.

Nahh, I just hate the attachment of Yoruba to Hebrew or any psuedo science origin claim. Somebody who is proud of their lineage does not need justification nor attachment.

You know there are correlations between different ethnic groups, but those correlations does not necessarily mean relationship. This same correlation is why some Igbo people think they are Hebrew.

El just means God in Hebrew. "Ele" in Yoruba is used as possession.

Culture › Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(op): 8:36pm On May 21, 2017*

9jakool:
It's called coincidence, nothing out of the ordinary.

Ok, cool. It was an independent evolution, that's all.

Oduduwa has nothing to do with Judah. ODU TO DA UWA. Judah actually comes from Yehuda meaning praised which has no relationship to oduduwa.

Yoruba people are from Africa so why won't there be shared DNA with other Africans. It's nothinjg shocking nor special.

The moment you pull up Arnold Josiah Ford was the moment I started to doubt the credibility of your findings.

Nahh, not at all.

Nahh, I just hate the attachment of Yoruba to Hebrew or any psuedo science origin claim. Somebody who is proud of their lineage does not need justification nor attachment.

You know there are correlations between different ethnic groups, but those correlations does not necessarily mean relationship. This same correlation is why some Igbo people think they are Hebrew.

El just means God in Hebrew. "Ele" in Yoruba is used as possession.

I want to believe it was coincidence. But was it coincidence too for children of Odu'a descendants to be attached to white Ram sacrificial? You can only find this amongst HEBREWS and later adopted by MUSLIMS. Now I have opened a new chapter of my history. This EDOS don't know this. This is the reason I mock their ignorance when they call my ancestor's ,a lineage of Edo people. They are bunch of liars. Is it coincidence, that the real story Odu'a was of his father being killed in Middle East? Do you really think Odu'a was his name? Let me believe, you are correct but note that the ancient way of reference to JUDUA was O'JUDUA and “j" can be interchanged to D and can be reverse too. if you do your studying very well you will understand. The Bible may look as a history book to some people it is not to me because the Bible specifically mentioned kings history before they were born before they were born. That is the reason I use the Bible connect to even the might of Egypt. Even the OGBONI has Due 29vs 29 as a shield. You will not understand certain things. Was it a coincidence that Yoruba had beads attached to kings family having Somolon's knot? Let us believe, the name Dua and Judua aren't related, as you have claimed. But have you thought, why Adimula had fringes on his Shawl? Have you seen how Ooni dresses? That's the way of Judaism priest and king's dress mode. I mentioned Arnold Josiah Ford because, during his own time, he didn't have access to the internet but oral history pass to him by his parents. And he had knowledge of doing his findings. Arnold wasnt the the issue but a RABBI that came and said what he saw. Was that a coincidence too? “El" wasnt outrightly God in Hebrew, “Elyions". Yoruba El and Hebrews El are but Prefix,attached to another,which naturally describes “Almightiness" in the personality being talked about. I am extensively read and I will advise you to do the same without being bias but study to see it those things are part of history or not. Then you can begin to draw conclusions gradually . Read what the RABBI SAID

Culture › Re: Edo State Belongs To Ijaw.... Bini's Are Strangers From Egypt. by Olu317(m): 4:42pm On May 21, 2017*

BINI ARE A PEOPLE WHOSE HISTORY IS ENSHRINED IN SLAVES. MOST OF THEM HAVE HAMITIC LINK. I JUST CAN'T STOP WONDERING WHEN EDO OF BINI EXTRACT WANT TO TELL THE HISTORY OF SOMEONE WHO DID NOT HAVE DIRECT CONNECTION WITH THEM. ORANMIYAN EXISTED IN between 10th —11th century. How come do these revisionists identify WHO ADIMULA( KNOWN AS O'ODUA) WAS, WHEN THEY DIDN'T EVEN MEET HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE? ADIMULA'S ORIGINAL STORY WAS THAT, HIS FATHER WAS KILLED IN BATTLE IN MIDDLE EAST. WHO ARE THE FAKE HISTORIANS WHEN IN FACT one of the most senior rank or POSITION OF IYASE OF BINI KINGDOM CAME INTO EXISTENCE AROUND 14th–15th Century? IYASE WAS A SLAVE TITLE. WHO ARE THESE FOOLS CALLING MY PATRILINEAL LINEAGE EKARLEHEDAN OR WHAT STUPID NAME DOES THE FEW USELESS EDO PEOPLE CALL HIM? THUNDER WILL FIRE YOU ALL.
MANY OF YOU THAT DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE YOU CAME FROM. NONSENSE

IT IS BETTER YOU BETTER GO AND TRASH IT OUT WITH YOUR IJAWS ADVERSARY BECAUSE ONCE THEY START THEIR WAHALA, WE SHALL SEE IF EDO CAN WITHSTAND THEM. BUNCH PSEUDO EDO REVISIONISTS

IYASE WAS A SLAVE RANK. GO AND KISS THE LAGOON

Culture › Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(op): 11:52am On May 21, 2017

Hati13:
Ok, are there some Yorubas who follow Judaism?

Is your culture nowadays are a mix of Semitic and sub sharan or you have completely forgotten your Semitic culture and are only sub sharan culture?

I've seen here on Nairaland that Lagos belongs to Yoruba. Isn't true?

The Judaism they practice in Israel IS A REFORMED ONE. NOW, there is a tradition in YORUBA LAND IN WHICH IT IS ENSHRINED “IFA" .The IFA 's knowledge is connected to ABRAHAMIC RELIGION. YORUBA DON'T PRACTICE THE MODERN DAY JUDAISM. BUT THE ANCIENT FORM OF IT. IFA KNOWLEDGE TAKES AT LEAST 16 YEARS FOR ANY APPRENTICE WITH HIGH INTELLIGENCE TO BE ABLE TO MASTER THE WORDS IN SEQUENCE. AND ALMOST 25–30YEARS FOR OTHERS. SOMETIMES, IT MAY TAKE MORE THAN THAT YEARS FOR ONE TO BE ABLE TO MEMORISE THE CODES. YES, LAGOS BELONGS TO YORUBAS ,THE JUDAISM IN PRESENT DAY ISRAEL IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BUT IN TERMS OF RITUALS AND FEW BELIEFS, IT IS STILL SIMILAR.

Culture › Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(op): 11:17am On May 21, 2017*

@9akool, can explain why “ANU" MEAN THE SAME IN HEBREWS HANNA?
ÉYÉ MEAN THE SAME AS AYA IN HEBREWS?
BA'ALE; husband /lord over people Same as HEBREW's BA'ALI /BAALAM cum Semitic language

Are these coincidence?

Bro do research while use the foundation of the past Yoruba researchers as well as Western researchers.

Culture › Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(op): 11:01am On May 21, 2017

@9akool, you missed the point seriously because Yoruba are a people with DNA traces linked to many part of the 17 grouping of world DNA traces . This alone testified to the claim of Yoruba claiming humanity came through them. And I posit here that , the humanity that Yoruba ancestors referred was ABRAHAM. Many tribes have claimed that human beings came out of them but Yoruba's take is different. Here are the group Yoruba are linked with in West Africa.

Culture › Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(op): 10:09am On May 21, 2017*

9jakool:
Why Oromo and not other Cushitic groups? Why Tigray specifically and not Amhara or other Semitic speaking people of the Horn when in fact all of them descended from the same line? Ethiopia is the origin of humans so the ancestors that likely form the Yoruba people as well as all humans from Asia to Europe to Americas etc came from Ethiopia. Ancestors of Yoruba were never the exception. Notice my usage of ancestors and not Yoruba people in particular. Most of the culture of Yoruba likely developed in West Africa. This is why you can see parallels across Africa.

Yes, if you take Yoruba origin myths literally, then you may come across contradictions. A lot of Yoruba culture is figurative or symbolic in meaning.

Also what researchers? You mean the very minuscule outcasts who call themselves researchers and don't follow the Scientific method, but rather rely on pseudo theories and insignificant evidence to point out some obscured links.

One of such ridiculous claim is the word araba having some link to Hebrew. Hebrew is a Semitic language that relies on root words and their alteration.Yoruba is heavily influenced by tone, so there is no direct link. Rabbi comes from, the root R-B-B meaning master with the literary translation of the "great one" which is different from the denotation of Yoruba araba. Yoruba doesn't use the root system for words and Hebrew doesn't rely on tone, that alone should be enough evidence to disproof a link. Yoruba is closer to other Sub-saharan languages than Hebrew.

I see you have surrounded yourself with "The Black Hebrew Israelite" or whatever they call themselves. These are the people who are trying so hard to rewrite the history of Africa. Also does Arnold Josiah Ford sound Yoruba to you? He is from the Caribbean, specifically Barbados. He is simply not Yoruba.
Why are so many Africans/descendants trying so hard to attach themselves to other people even having the audacity to claim that certain people are fake and they are the "real" whatever. Is that not pure inferiority complex? Must you become people from the Bible/Torah/Koran to feel accomplished or special?

"Yoruba have Five Jewish DNA Traces?"
Are my eyes seeing right? Just say it already...1...2...3...YORUBA ARE JEWS! Like dude if you believe you are Jewish or whatever, it's fine. You can go with that identity, but do not and I repeat do not attach it to the name "Yoruba."

This part makes sense!

You are quite funny. This is because, you only opined your view and didn't do anything to counter my findings, I screened shot. I am not the first to have been able to establish certain facts about Yoruba. Have you gone back in history to find out why certain features and characteristics of Canaan or Hebrews are found in Yoruba way of life. Have you for once forgot your research to the extent that, it was only in ancient Yoruba that had glass beads production which were not in existence in any part of Sub Saharan Africa? Why is it only in YORUBA do SOLOMON'S KNOT ARE ONLY USED BY KINGS LINEAGE AND CHIEFS? You think everyone I am affectionately attached to Hebrews? You must be kidding. WHY DO YORUBA PRIEST HAVE FRINGES ON THEIR SHAWL? WHY DO FRINGES APPEAR ALSO IN ANCIENT YORUBA ASO OKE etc ? IT IS ONE OF THE JUDAISM's Priests mode of dressing. WHY DO YOU FIND “UDUA" FOUND IN JUDUA AND O'ODUA(ODUDUDTell me, where did olofin Adimula and his people came from? DNA isn't about self glorifying but hitting at the ancestors connection and unraveling link with the part whom share family links. Oromo and tigray aren't the only people Yoruba had link with Even there is a particular Kenya Bantu that Yoruba shares with. Don't get worked up. Just do the RESEARCH AND COME COUNTER MY FINDINGS or you respect my findings. Perhaps, you think I just jumped into this because of self pride, I guess, you are wrong as F9 if that was your thought. Every man has a purpose on earth, and I am destined to speak up and write accordingly to the dictate of ELEDUMARE on my people. It is an insult though to infer that I shouldn't use the word Yoruba. Are you more YORUBA THAN I AM? You need be engrossed in bitterness because of what you think it look untrue but IT IS THE TRUTH. Why is it that YORUBA GOD (ELEDUMARE) have the same features with HEBREWS? Where did Yoruba learn the tradition of using lamb, ram, heifer, birds, etc as sacrifice and atonement of sins? Why do Yoruba of old do redemption for women after menstruation? Similar to people of Middle East. Egypt worship Ram in the ancient times. How come Yoruba having same naming period and circumcisions with Hebrews? How come Yoruba God is ageless and referred to Ancient of days? I mentioned the manner at which Eledumare brought forth word through “EL—A ROO–WAA. Have you knowledge who the Hebrew referred to EL? All these are coincidence, right? I want to do research before being emotional on issue. Perhaps, when you do your own DNA, you may be thinking of doing more personal research. Cheers [img]

9jakool:
Why Oromo and not other Cushitic groups? Why Tigray specifically and not Amhara or other Semitic speaking people of the Horn when in fact all of them descended from the same line? Ethiopia is the origin of humans so the ancestors that likely form the Yoruba people as well as all humans from Asia to Europe to Americas etc came from Ethiopia. Ancestors of Yoruba were never the exception. Notice my usage of ancestors and not Yoruba people in particular. Most of the culture of Yoruba likely developed in West Africa. This is why you can see parallels across Africa.

Yes, if you take Yoruba origin myths literally, then you may come across contradictions. A lot of Yoruba culture is figurative or symbolic in meaning.

Also what researchers? You mean the very minuscule outcasts who call themselves researchers and don't follow the Scientific method, but rather rely on pseudo theories and insignificant evidence to point out some obscured links.

One of such ridiculous claim is the word araba having some link to Hebrew. Hebrew is a Semitic language that relies on root words and their alteration.Yoruba is heavily influenced by tone, so there is no direct link. Rabbi comes from, the root R-B-B meaning master with the literary translation of the "great one" which is different from the denotation of Yoruba araba. Yoruba doesn't use the root system for words and Hebrew doesn't rely on tone, that alone should be enough evidence to disproof a link. Yoruba is closer to other Sub-saharan languages than Hebrew.

I see you have surrounded yourself with "The Black Hebrew Israelite" or whatever they call themselves. These are the people who are trying so hard to rewrite the history of Africa. Also does Arnold Josiah Ford sound Yoruba to you? He is from the Caribbean, specifically Barbados. He is simply not Yoruba.
Why are so many Africans/descendants trying so hard to attach themselves to other people even having the audacity to claim that certain people are fake and they are the "real" whatever. Is that not pure inferiority complex? Must you become people from the Bible/Torah/Koran to feel accomplished or special?

"Yoruba have Five Jewish DNA Traces?"
Are my eyes seeing right? Just say it already...1...2...3...YORUBA ARE JEWS! Like dude if you believe you are Jewish or whatever, it's fine. You can go with that identity, but do not and I repeat do not attach it to the name "Yoruba."

This part makes sense!

9jakool:
Why Oromo and not other Cushitic groups? Why Tigray specifically and not Amhara or other Semitic speaking people of the Horn when in fact all of them descended from the same line? Ethiopia is the origin of humans so the ancestors that likely form the Yoruba people as well as all humans from Asia to Europe to Americas etc came from Ethiopia. Ancestors of Yoruba were never the exception. Notice my usage of ancestors and not Yoruba people in particular. Most of the culture of Yoruba likely developed in West Africa. This is why you can see parallels across Africa.

Yes, if you take Yoruba origin myths literally, then you may come across contradictions. A lot of Yoruba culture is figurative or symbolic in meaning.

Also what researchers? You mean the very minuscule outcasts who call themselves researchers and don't follow the Scientific method, but rather rely on pseudo theories and insignificant evidence to point out some obscured links.

One of such ridiculous claim is the word araba having some link to Hebrew. Hebrew is a Semitic language that relies on root words and their alteration.Yoruba is heavily influenced by tone, so there is no direct link. Rabbi comes from, the root R-B-B meaning master with the literary translation of the "great one" which is different from the denotation of Yoruba araba. Yoruba doesn't use the root system for words and Hebrew doesn't rely on tone, that alone should be enough evidence to disproof a link. Yoruba is closer to other Sub-saharan languages than Hebrew.

I see you have surrounded yourself with "The Black Hebrew Israelite" or whatever they call themselves. These are the people who are trying so hard to rewrite the history of Africa. Also does Arnold Josiah Ford sound Yoruba to you? He is from the Caribbean, specifically Barbados. He is simply not Yoruba.
Why are so many Africans/descendants trying so hard to attach themselves to other people even having the audacity to claim that certain people are fake and they are the "real" whatever. Is that not pure inferiority complex? Must you become people from the Bible/Torah/Koran to feel accomplished or special?

"Yoruba have Five Jewish DNA Traces?"
Are my eyes seeing right? Just say it already...1...2...3...YORUBA ARE JEWS! Like dude if you believe you are Jewish or whatever, it's fine. You can go with that identity, but do not and I repeat do not attach it to the name "Yoruba."
This part makes sense!

You are quite funny. This is because, you only opined your view and didn't do anything to counter my findings, I screened shot. I am not the first to have been able to establish certain facts about Yoruba. Have you gone back in history to find out why certain features and characteristics of Canaan or Hebrews are found in Yoruba way of life?. Have you for once taken your research to the extent that, it was only in ancient Yoruba that had glass beads production which were not in existence in any part of Sub Saharan Africa? Why is it only in YORUBA do SOLOMON'S KNOT ARE ONLY USED BY KINGS LINEAGE AND CHIEFS? You think I am affectionately attached to Hebrews? You must be kidding. WHY DO YORUBA PRIEST HAVE FRINGES ON THEIR SHAWL? WHY DO FRINGES APPEAR ALSO IN ANCIENT YORUBA ASO OKE etc ? IT IS ONE OF THE JUDAISM's Priests mode of dressing. WHY DO YOU FIND “UDUA" FOUND IN JUDUA AND O'ODUA(ODUDUA)Tell me, where did olofin Adimula and his people came from? DNA isn't about self glorifying but hitting at the ancestors connection and unraveling link with the part whom share family links. Oromo and tigray aren't the only people Yoruba had link with Even there is a particular Kenya Bantu that Yoruba shares with. Don't get worked up. Just do the RESEARCH AND COME COUNTER MY FINDINGS or you respect my findings. Perhaps, you think I just jumped into this because of self pride, I guess, you are wrong as F9 if that was your thought. Every man has a purpose on earth, and I am destined to speak up and write accordingly to the dictate of ELEDUMARE on my people. It is an insult though to infer that I shouldn't use the word Yoruba. Are you more YORUBA THAN I AM? You need be engrossed in bitterness because of what you think it look untrue but IT IS THE TRUTH. Why is it that YORUBA GOD (ELEDUMARE) have the same features with HEBREWS? Where did Yoruba learn the tradition of using lamb, ram, heifer, birds, etc as sacrifice and atonement of sins? Why do Yoruba of old do redemption for women after menstruation? Similar to people of Middle East. Egypt worship Ram in the ancient times. How come Yoruba having same naming period and circumcisions with Hebrews? How come Yoruba God is ageless and referred to Ancient of days? I mentioned the manner at which Eledumare brought forth word through “EL—A ROO–WAA. Have you knowledge who the Hebrew referred to EL? All these are coincidence, right? I want to do research before being emotional on issue. Perhaps, when you do your own DNA, you may be thinking of doing more personal research. IF YOU CAN'T UNRAVEL THEIR MIGRATION AND THE man WHOSE WAS IDENTIFY AS OODUA. Cheers

Culture › Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(op): 10:08am On May 21, 2017

9jakool:
Why Oromo and not other Cushitic groups? Why Tigray specifically and not Amhara or other Semitic speaking people of the Horn when in fact all of them descended from the same line? Ethiopia is the origin of humans so the ancestors that likely form the Yoruba people as well as all humans from Asia to Europe to Americas etc came from Ethiopia. Ancestors of Yoruba were never the exception. Notice my usage of ancestors and not Yoruba people in particular. Most of the culture of Yoruba likely developed in West Africa. This is why you can see parallels across Africa.

Yes, if you take Yoruba origin myths literally, then you may come across contradictions. A lot of Yoruba culture is figurative or symbolic in meaning.

Also what researchers? You mean the very minuscule outcasts who call themselves researchers and don't follow the Scientific method, but rather rely on pseudo theories and insignificant evidence to point out some obscured links.

One of such ridiculous claim is the word araba having some link to Hebrew. Hebrew is a Semitic language that relies on root words and their alteration.Yoruba is heavily influenced by tone, so there is no direct link. Rabbi comes from, the root R-B-B meaning master with the literary translation of the "great one" which is different from the denotation of Yoruba araba. Yoruba doesn't use the root system for words and Hebrew doesn't rely on tone, that alone should be enough evidence to disproof a link. Yoruba is closer to other Sub-saharan languages than Hebrew.

I see you have surrounded yourself with "The Black Hebrew Israelite" or whatever they call themselves. These are the people who are trying so hard to rewrite the history of Africa. Also does Arnold Josiah Ford sound Yoruba to you? He is from the Caribbean, specifically Barbados. He is simply not Yoruba.
Why are so many Africans/descendants trying so hard to attach themselves to other people even having the audacity to claim that certain people are fake and they are the "real" whatever. Is that not pure inferiority complex? Must you become people from the Bible/Torah/Koran to feel accomplished or special?

"Yoruba have Five Jewish DNA Traces?"
Are my eyes seeing right? Just say it already...1...2...3...YORUBA ARE JEWS! Like dude if you believe you are Jewish or whatever, it's fine. You can go with that identity, but do not and I repeat do not attach it to the name "Yoruba."

This part makes sense!

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Culture › Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(op): 12:42am On May 21, 2017

DNA TRACES LIKE I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER

Culture › Re: Neanderthal Dna Exist In Yoruba And Khoisan by Olu317(op): 12:21am On May 21, 2017*

Hati13:
Olu317, I've a question to ask.

Did Neanderthal evolved from common Apes as Homo Saipans did?

Do you really believe Yoruba people were one of the few original Jews? If so, are you proud of your Jewishness?

In one of your comment on my topic, you said the Tigray people are closer to Yoruba. But Tigrays aren't Jews. Can you explain me your claim on this.

I didn't infer that they were close to Yoruba but mentioned that they were sharing percentage of traces DNA with Yorubas. Yoruba have over 80+ DNA traces in all the regions of the world. And tigray, Oromo are part of them.
On the NEANDERTHAL, that's the theory being speculated. Despite the fact that the whole world came out through one source, ideologies differed because of self groups developments.
Now, Many part of Yoruba history has some contradictory aspects because of the creation myth being the place where the world begun. However, there are certain characteristics seen amongst Yoruba that made researchers of western world to acknowledge the Judaism in part of Yoruba history. Take for instance, the claim of DIVINE KINGS in Yoruba beliefs. In Yoruba land, the over all Chief PRIEST of YORUBA WORLD IS CALLED “ARABA" (RABBI is a Hebrew word for priest ). The first word created in Yoruba account of how the world was created by EL-EDUMARE (EL) was ELA(word) .The Bible record this in the beginning of Gen1:2(God spoke/Word).
The first Colour RABBI IN THE US was A Yoruba man. ARNOLD JOSIAH FORD. IT WILL shock you that he was the one that anointed Ras Tefari. Do you know the ancient Hebrews aren't different from Egyptians in complexion? Their religion was the difference between them. However, I don't want to go into it. Yoruba have FIVE Jewish DNA traces NAMELY; SAMARITAN, SEPHARDIC, JEWISH TURKEY, COCHIN JEWISH AND BNEI MENASHE JEWISH.

TRUTHFULLY,I don't share in the belief of supremacy of ethnicity. In fact the Hebrews have suffered more in life, simply because of their disobedience to God. Based on the typical nature of Yoruba, I wouldn't want to be boastful of something like that but to acknowledge it. Despite the fact that few elements amongst Yoruba people believed that Yoruba originated from West Africa. However everything our forefathers left down for us to use as a link to our past point out that WE AREN'T FROM SUBSAHARA AFRICA. TAKE FOR INSTANCE , AROUND 10TH—11TH CENTURY, WE WERE THE ONLY ONE WITH GLASS BEADS PRODUCTION WHICH WERE ALIEN TO OTHER PEOPLE.

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Culture › Re: . by Olu317(m): 6:08pm On May 20, 2017

Hati13:
lol, why are u angry? Is it because you can't tolerate seeing few Ethiopian topics out of many other countries topics on this forum?

Just give me one or two weeks for your happiness, I will leave for good!

Why would you want to leave? This is a site that accommodate everyone,irrespective of status. There are different kind of people you will meet via this site; Some exclusively good,Some conmen, some Sick gens and some psychopaths . Winners never quit and Quitters don't win............ Which part of human history do want to be remembered?

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Culture › Re: Edo State Belongs To Ijaw.... Bini's Are Strangers From Egypt. by Olu317(m): 5:33pm On May 20, 2017

aljharem:
Bini una see una life. Keep changing your history others will Change it for you

The lies they have been trying to project gradually is beginning to SINK inside the Atlantic Ocean. BINI are ingrates. I expect the Oba BINI or his spokesman like Iyase etc to come defend this ALLEGATION.

Culture › Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Olu317(m): 5:04pm On May 20, 2017

OMANBALA1:
Engaging you is an insult to me. You have deep rooted inferiority complex and I can't fix that. You are just regurgitating what you heard people say about Igbo. You are shamelessly ignorant and you are proud of it. I am not here to do superiority contest with a sick man like you. You are a piece of trash that why you can't have a civil conversation. I have watched Pazienza and Bigfrancis here tried to educate you but your block head is filled with hate and inferiority complex,hence nothing can penetrate your brains.

Firstly,Ibibio and Igbo have borders hence the mixture in Arochukwu area who live in the flank of Igbo land.
You don't know anything about Onicha ,so,keep quiet because my town is a stone throw from Onicha. So,keep shut!
Igbo has always been there although we didn't have one unified identity but we always knew we were Igbos.And it is pronounced Igbo not Ibo or Igbo...People who say Igbo are rretards like you who have problem with proper pronunciation.

The rest of that thing you wrote is just sicko...You need a psychiatrist. What a SICKO...lol

Votre maladie est géniale.

Culture › Re: Edo State Belongs To Ijaw.... Bini's Are Strangers From Egypt. by Olu317(m): 1:01pm On May 20, 2017

Interesting.

Culture › Re: The Oluyares: The Igbo Aborigines Of Ife Who Still Live There by Olu317(m): 12:25pm On May 20, 2017*

AworiLagosian:
Guy, Yoruba word for cloud is Ikuuku , not Ofurufu.

The cloud encompassing the sky. However, the sky is acknowledged as Ofurufu. I am not too familiar with such . Anyway, thanks for the new additional knowledge. The point here is about engaging Ibos claims to know terms used for things,places ,animals etc having same meaning with Yorubas.

Culture › Re: The Oluyares: The Igbo Aborigines Of Ife Who Still Live There by Olu317(m): 12:12pm On May 20, 2017

SUNNYsparkle:
So where we dey borrow the words? So is it possible that only Yoruba words were convenient for Igbo to borrow. How come Igbo didn't borrow such words from their immediate Cross River, Ibibio neighbors?

The contact with Ibo started more during the iron age era. If you check part of the places mentioned Kogi axis connecting to Northern Enugu, you will understand part of history.
Eastern Kogi State ,
in and around the areas of
Dekina ,
Ankpa , Idah ,
ibaji , Omala,
Igalamela-Odolu Etc.
Ife, Ankpa, Dekina, Ibaji, Ebu, Idah

Eastern
Kogi State , Northern
Enugu State , Uzo Uwani , Igbo Eze North,
Nsukka Local Government Areas

The partly side in Enugu enclave were the reason for the sporadic connection because some people from part of Ibo land are IGALA GROUP. So, if you have language connection to Yoruba, it is essential, you find how your ancestors arrived at the present location you have as place of ORIGIN.

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Culture › Re: The Oluyares: The Igbo Aborigines Of Ife Who Still Live There by Olu317(m): 10:08am On May 20, 2017

SUNNYsparkle:
That's my own dialect.. I don't know what the other dialects call theirs or it is centrally Thats nt the only thing I've listed there

Now,let me further str8n certain facts here,that there are in Enugu enclave that had Yoruba related words. However, these were partially due to either few elements of migrations or inter-marriages. Has anything been done on language classification of the South East (Ibos) language? Igbo(Igbos) . Take for instance, Eastern Kogi State ,Northern Enugu State , Uzo Uwani , Igbo Eze North,Nsukka Local Government Areas have words slightly related to Yoruba language which could be as a result of slight migrations or inter-marriages. But we are different. Ptah’s rule over Egypt began as early as 21,000 BC! If his name and the collective name for the gods of Egypt, Neter, were Igbo in origin, it implies that an ancient civilization of Igbo extraction existed in West Africa, where the gods, and not men ruled, by at least 22,000 BC; that Egypt was an originally Igbo-speaking civilization and that early Egyptians were Igbos. One Yoruba author seeking recognition went and spew trash when he said YORUBA AND IBO PARTED LANGUAGE 2000 years ago when if in fact heavy studies had been done on Ibo language that had SPANNED OVER 21,000 YEARS AGO. ISNT IT FOOLHARDY TO ACCEPT SUCH CRAP? People just come on here to churn out trash when they have no knowledge of history.

Go through this piece.

Culture › Re: Origin Of The Word " Oyibo".. by Olu317(m): 9:31am On May 20, 2017

OMANBALA1:
Guy,please can I borrow what you are smoking. That sshit is ffucking good....lol.
You know absolutely nothing about The Igbo people. White people couldn't pronounce a lot of Igbo words... They pronounce Owerre as Owerri,Onicha as Onitsha,Oka as Awka...etc.
And how can you say Igbos are weaker when they were in high demand during slavery...lol.

The thing pain you ooooo...lol

This is my problem with young people. Nigeria is indeed a false entity when someone like you literally read and the next to come up with is “smoke related words ". Is it because, this is a faceless fora? Some of the words churn out here online certain words are alien to my Yoruba ethnicity. I guess, that's what make many of you being called “BUSH MEN". It is an aberration of the highest order. It is for a time though. You want to engage me, you don't even have proper ibo's history account, when some of you are even IBIBIO descendants Go check your history first. First, to knock you off my quote; What year did Ibo had language's letters standardize for you to claim, the white formed Igbo Instead of “IGBO"? Why is that some Ibos can't pronounce rrrrr if you claim superiority complex over white men? Who even told you Onicha was anciently part of Ibo land? Do you not know NWEKA was partly BINI enclave? Go and study. Who were the middle men between the community leaders and the white men who were slave merchants ? Who introduced the name to the white men? Were you all known as Igbos/Yeebos? Igbo and IGeebo, which would had been easy to be pronounced by the white men if the White can't pronounce “GB" sound in Igbo? WHAT IS MEANING OF “IGBO" in the South East, without it being attached as a PREFIX to another? YOU ARE ALL CLOWN. YOU WILL NEVER STOP USING THIS FAKE IDENTITY BEING CLAIMED AND CLUNG UNTO SIMPLY TO FORM ATTACHE WITH YORUBA CLANS. OLUKUMI, THAT'S EVEN IN THE ENCLAVE THAT'S CLOSELY KNITTED WITH PARTIAL IBOS /IGALA/EDO people still held unto their identity, irrespective of their location. GO FIND BOOK TO LEARN MORE

Culture › Re: The Oluyares: The Igbo Aborigines Of Ife Who Still Live There by Olu317(m): 8:08pm On May 19, 2017

SUNNYsparkle:
Unfortunately some of the words, I dont know their Igbo names, but Rat - Oke, Cocoyam instead of cassava is Ede, Lightening is Amuma, Python is Eke, Frog instead of Toad is Akiri, Tiger instead of Ekun is Agu, Owl is Ikwikwi, Cloud I think in my own local dialect is Orukputu... I don't know what they might be in other dialects and Perhabs the central Igbo names of them. However have you check parts of the body and see the similarities there. Aleast those ones are static words. I can list so many words in Igbo that are not similar to Yoruba. So, what do we say about the similar ones? That they are just coincidence? One thing I know and I've read is the Yoruba language and Igala langauge also sound similar too. And everybody knows that Igala is related to Igbo. Both groups (Igbo and Igala) claim they begot each other. So many stories and theories

Just as word are borrowed during Language development,certain words that seem related are borrowed from one region to the other . Ancient Yoruba language are descriptive in nature. And these can be attested to as result of language development. IFA in Yoruba is AFA in Ibo. Does it not show one borrow from another? Despite the borrowing, there are certain characteristics at which language can be classified as related. Igala has traces of Yoruba language with 60+% . Still, it is not classified as YORUBA LANGUAGE because it needs to be up to 70% before it grouped as YORUBA LANGUAGE. Yoruba borrowed words and don't deny it. Either from Northern part or outside . And in all these borrowing of language, Yoruba did developed a city that was known by some many but couldn't be reached because of the location in the deep forested area we were located.

Culture › Re: The Oluyares: The Igbo Aborigines Of Ife Who Still Live There by Olu317(m): 4:07pm On May 19, 2017*

RedboneSmith:
You people can either choose to remain ignorant about the state of African linguistics, or you can dare to be informed and read serious linguistics studies done by linguists who know their stuff (not starry-eyed Middle-Easterner wannabes.)

If you choose to be informed, you can start with obtaining this book written with non-linguistics experts in mind:

https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=OiynbBvMblcC&pg=PA201&lpg=PA201&dq=Bolaji+Aremo+How+Igbo+and+Yoruba&source=bl&ots=m65orhajhx&sig=YJRhHqRtI0m7ecAmyqdRuWoHwLo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiivKGY7vvTAhUJfxoKHQC2C0YQ6AEIMTAO#v=onepage&q=Bolaji Aremo How Igbo and Yoruba&f=false

If you think someone like me is attached to Hebrews language. I guess it is because of my own ancestors. You seems to have taken a swipe at me. Naturally, I don't like engaging Yorubas on this platform because it will get messy. Now, the link you gave, is of course a known author but he LIED. Here are list of few of Ibos words of

EGYPTIAN WORDS OF IGBO ORIGIN

Ptah, means in Egyptian, ‘He who fashions things by carving and opening up”. VS The Igbo original of this word is Okpu-atu (meaning ‘He who moulds/fashions things by carving and opening up’
Ptah’s son was called Ra , meaning ‘Sun/Daylight’.VS It’s Igbo original was Ora (which in Afa – the cult language of Igbo native priests, also meant ‘Sun/daylight’).
Ra was called Osiris by the Greeks and Asar by the Egyptians. Osiris’ was associated with the number ‘seven’. No one knows the meaning of his name in Egypt . VS Igbo language Asaa means ‘seven’!

NONE OF THESE WORDS EXIST IN YORUBA LAND IN ACCORDANCE TO SIMILAR MEANING
The whole world at one time were together. So, it's ideally, to note that the names ascribed to God between Hebrew were largely the same with GOD with Yoruba ‘EL'=Eledumare /Eledua
OLORUN=ELYION(pronunciation changed at one time or the other)

Politics › Nigeria's Population Was Fraudulent By Harold Smith by Olu317(op): 1:38pm On May 19, 2017

*BRITON CONFESSES TO FRAUDULENT CENSUS IN NIGERIA*
The man Harold Smith is not new in Nigerian history. He is one of the architects of colonial foundation that midwife Nigerian independence in 1960. His response was "I am in my 80s now; I have agreed but in the past' they' did not want me to say anything, but now I don't want to go to my grave without telling the truth about the atrocities perpetrated in Africa by the colonialists. Brothers and sisters; on Ben TV last Thursday, Harold Smith was on a program to reveal what went behind the scene before the independence. The Oxford University graduate had this to say about his role in Nigeria pre and after independence era.
‘Our agenda was to completely exploit Africa . Nigeria was my duty post. When we assessed Nigeria, this was what we found in the southern region; strength, intelligence, determination to succeed, well established history, complex but focused life style, great hope and aspirations… the East is good in business and technology, the west is good in administration and commerce, law and medicine, but it was a pity we planned our agenda to give power "at all cost" to the northerner. They seemed to be submissive and silly of a kind. Our mission was accomplished by destroying the opposition at all fronts. The west led in the fight for the independence, and was punished for asking for freedom. They will not rule Nigeria !
Harold Smith confessed that the Census results were announced before they were counted. Despite seeing vast land with no human but cattle in the north, we still gave the north 55 million instead of 32 Million.This was to be used to maintain their majority votes and future power bid. He stated that the West without Lagos was the most populous in Nigeria at that time but we ignored that. The north was seriously encouraged to go into the military. According to him, they believe that the south may attend western education, but future leaders will always come from military background. Their traditional rulers were to be made influential and super human. The northerners were given accelerated promotions both in the military and civil service to justify their superiority over the south. Everything was to work against the south. We truncated their good plan for their future. "I was very sorry for the A.G; it was a great party too much for African standard. We planned to destroy Awolowo and Azikiwe well, the west and the east and sowed a seed of discord among them". We tricked Azikiwe into accepting to be president having known that Balewa will be the main man with power. Awolowo has to go to jail to cripple his genius plans for a greater Nigeria . However, Harold Smith justified the British agenda of colonialism in Nigeria , which he believed was originally to help build Africa after the ruins of slave trade, but lamented that the British only looked after themselves and not after Nigerian interest. The British really let Nigeria down. When I see Nigerian been accused of fraud and from what I saw on the streets of Lagos ; the British were worst fraudsters.Looking at the northern leaders now he said, "If they have any agenda in Nigeria at all, sadly it is only for the north, and nothing for Nigeria . He stated that the British look after the British people and this is so all over the world. He said the time has come now to see people of intelligent minds with an open and inclusive agenda for all Nigerians in power…people who will really look after Nigerians large population…but "I still curiously and sorrowfully see now that the British has not let go of Nigeria…her wealth,. her potentials, her future. He opined that the Caucasian people now assert themselves as the keeper of the "New Age" keys. He therefore said that it is only logical for Europeans to maintain their position of power, scientific superiority, economic exploitation, they must continue to perpetuate their lies and falsehoods and this is the most unkindest cut of all in relation to Nigeria situation!

According to him, Nigeria , a great nation was crippled not because of military juntas or corrupt leaders alone but by the British and American fear of Nigeria great future. He confessed, "The fear of the place that will be our ‘dumping ground' really occupied our minds". Some of the things he said were not new to Nigerians or to the whole world but hearing it from the horse's mouth is quite revealing and established more reality zones. He finally submitted that the colonial masters have caused havoc while they were in Africa , and planted timed bombs when they finally left. What we see since independence, the administration of new internal colonial masters by fellow Nigerians holding sway in power is doing more damage to Nigeria . Instead of detonating the time bombs planted by the British, the north is planting mines. He added that ‘It was my duty to carry out all of the above and I was loyal to my country. Nigerians should try to be loyal to their country leaders and followers alike. Love your country. You have got the potentials to be great again and the whole world knows this'.
I am sorry for the above evil done to Nigeria . I can't say sorry enough……

courtesy :Ben TV

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Culture › Re: Ooni Ogunwusi And Olugbo Akinruntan In Supremacy Battle by Olu317(m): 1:15pm On May 19, 2017

ADE AARE WAS NEVER OBATALA'S. BEFORE ADIMULA APPEARED, EACH GROUP HAD SEPARATES HEAD. THEY WERE KNOWN AS AGBA ILU. OBATALA WaS Among the CORE AGBA ILU. THERE WERE 13 GROUPS/CLANS. ADIMULA FUSE AND UNIFIED ALL UNDER ONE POWERFUL AUTHORITATIVE ( ERUJÉJÉ= DREADED) KING . ADE AARE BEGUN WITH OLOFIN ADIMULA.HE FOUNDED ONI-IMOLE/UMOLE

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