₦airaland Forum

bigfrancis21:
For those asking about the Igbo exposure to Europeans, Europeans started trading in Igbo slaves (around the late 1400s) much earlier than with the Yorubas (from the 1600s or 1700s) who were exported in significant numbers towards the ending of the slave trade, which explains why more Igbo slaves overall (circa 1.27 million, spanning across almost 4 centuries) were exported more than Yoruba slaves (circa 500,000). The Igbo possibly had contact with the Europeans (through Bonny and Calabar ports) much earlier than the Yorubas, thus the mimicking of the mispronunciation of 'onye ibo' by the white man by the Igbos to 'oyibo' is highly probable.

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Whereas slavery in Yorubaland did not start until around 1640 (nearly 200 years after Europeans were exposed to Igbos).

Before slavery begun, Yoruba have been travelling to places because of wealth created by them when they got to West Africa.
Evidence of bead manufacture among the Yoruba dates as far as the 11th Century AD. Scientific evidence exists indicating that blue-green glass beads made in Ile-Ife were being traded outside the Yoruba area long before the era of European contact. My ancestors have had contact with Whites through their business dealing,long before slave trade. In fact, Yoruba beads was an outstanding because it not in existence in SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA apart from the Yoruba producing it . Forget, this your egocentrism about Ibos because DNA support the Yoruba as the largest ethnic group in AMERICAS as far as the African continent is concerned. So, forget what you think s TRUE. Like I have always emphasise, the word IGBO wasn't your identity in 14th—19th century. The Easter people were known as EBOES.

bigfrancis21:
You just said maize flour or yam flour, not the actual corn itself, is called Oka in archaic yoruba communities, so what then is your argument about? Growing up, everywhere in Igbo land calls corn (the one that you grow and eat, which can be roasted or boiled) Oka (with rising and falling tones). We do not refer to the flour as Oka but the actual food item itself as Oka.

According to you, Maize flour = Oka (Yoruba)
According to general Yoruba, Corn = Agbado

According to Pazienza, Corn (food) = Oka (Igbo).

The difference and usage are clear enough already.

There are many things you people don't know and I will let you have knowledge on it. General Yoruba was coined to suit the whole speaker of Yoruba language. This is the reason, it will be hard for non Yoruba speakers to understand rural Yoruba language because, part of ancient way of speaking still abide with them. Irrespective of what you claimed to be the usage of the word “Oka" in Eastern part, I can authoritatively inform you that “AGBADO" is a MODERN YORUBA WORD because of language development. Take for instance, Yoruba use ko fò(a mark must be under the “o" and ki ni o un so. The former “fò" with a mark under the “o" to change the pronunciation is an ancient word in Yoruba land. I mentioned this because, Yoruba language has been going through transformation in the urban area but in the RURAL,the language still maintain partly past ancient words usage.

bigfrancis21:
I didn't quite get that part in bold?

Oh I see . Google Thomas Peters and infer what your opinion is on this forum.

bigfrancis21:
I didn't quite get that part in bold?

Oh I see . Google Thomas Peters and infer what see on there on this forum.

Dhugal:
Dude,you know next to nothing of Yoruba language and its history.
Don't push me use you to mop the floor here.
Eji is mist,not rain.Same way mist is referred to as igirigi in Igbo
BTW,maize in Yoruba is agbado not oka.
Oka is purely Igbo word for maize,though ground flours used to make swallows are also sometimes referred to as oka in Yoruba.

You are JOKING! . Oh, you want to teach me Yoruba Language ? Begin to teach me. Abèjidè —Came with dew or came during dew , you claim? That's not my language . And it isn't the meaning. Perhaps, I am too forward. Kindly explain the Yoruba Name “ABèjidè". You better don't go beyond your reach.

Probz:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OiynbBvMblcC&pg=PA155&dq=Igbo+Yoruba+mai+mai+moin+moin&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Igbo%20Yoruba%20mai%20mai%20moin%20moin&f=false

That book acknowledges that agbado's the more general Yoruba term for corn but it says oka and eka are used too. Scroll down a couple pages.

I'm not disagreeing with anything else though. I'm with you on the oyibo thing. Just not oka.

I don't know how oka's pronounced in Yoruba.

Question to you are these; between Yoruba and Ibos, who were the first to come in contact with whites? Don't mention OLUADAH EQUIANO because he shared the same picture with Thomas Peters. A well known Yoruba warrior man during 17th century. When was the time in history did they come across white men to know them as OYIBO, a word got from Yoruba OYINBO? . Samuel Ajayi crowther helped Ibos standardize their modern Ibo language. And they've always given credit to him. Who among Ibos helped Yoruba in language development?

Leiman100:
you ve expose yourself by trying to judge me that that is enough for me

Exposed myself? You are a dramatist. My dear ,if you conspiracy theorist. You have blundered.

Leiman100:
you ve expose yourself by trying to judge me that that is enough for me

Exposed myself? You are a dramatist. My dear ,if you conspiracy theorist. You have blundered.

Enjoy yourself

Probz:
Oka's shared, not borrowed. Igbo oka and Yoruba oka derive from the same root word. Don't be talking nonsense.

Shared you mentioned? OK. But I know OKA has been ages with Yorubas with the production of maize( Agbado) conversion to different varieties in Yoruba land . And Yoruba borrowed some words later and it is not with any connection to IBOS' Oka. Same root? I haven't come across it before anywhere. Please, don't refer me to books sellers(pseudo authors) with no good record.

Dhugal:
Eji means mist,especially the type that comes down in the morning.It's also used for dew.
Who do you think you want to fool here,children?.
I'll beat you over the head with ijinle Yoruba,if you're not careful.

Hahaha....Look at you having a partial understanding of Yoruba. OK ooo, I give it to you on having a little knowledge of the partial meaning because it was made popular. However, èji Owuro(morning dew/drops of water from the sky to wet the flowers etc periodically) is clearly differentiated from proper ÈJI, which accurately mean rain. You can't outclass me in my language ooo

pazienza:
You lots are shameless. Oka doesn't mean corn or Maize in urban or rural Yorubaland, maize is Agbado.

Oka, pronounced entirely differently from the the Igbo Oka, is what Yorubas call "Swallow " foods like pounded yam, ground maize processed and prepared as swallow for soup, even wheat, dawa, etc, once prepared as swallow is referee to as Oka( pronounced quite different from the Igbo Oka for maize).

I mock you. I am not interested. Go and read about your history properly. Everything about Ibo is always about borrowing from others and turning into theirs. WHAT IS THE MEANING OF “IGBO" IN IBO LAND? YOU WERE REFERRED TO AS IGBOS IN THE 1930S. THIS IS A NAME WITH CONNECTION WITH YORUBA FOR CENTURIES . In Igbo land the word “IGBO" IS A PREFIX. It has no modern meaning of its own. Continue in your ignorance.

pazienza:
Oka is Igbo word for Maize, Some parts of Igbo land call it Ukwuoru, but Oka is the word used in central Igbo and Anambra/Enugu towns Stop talking trash, you are not an Igbo and so in no position to say what is Igbo word and what isn't.
From my little stay in Yorubaland, I know that the central and everyday used word for maize /corn in Yorubaland is Agbado. Agbado ati Agbon( Maize and coconut)i s a regular rainy season snack in Yorubaland.

You Yorubas are damn annoying.

Oh I see, you lived within urban Yoruba who had interchangeably use Agbado which literally mean maize. You seem to have failed again because you don't know much about Yoruba culture and food . In Yoruba land, We call rain ÒJÒ and Èji , the second one can hardly be known to YOU,except my exposing it to you at this moment. Yoruba in the rural speaks archaic Yoruba which you can hardly hear and calls OKA , Maize flour. In some places, it can also be used for White yam flour,which you know it with a different name. You will get lost if you think you can understand Yoruba because you fraternise with Yoruba city. You claimed, it is used among Ibos, It is a borrowed words from Yoruba land, just as Aso Ebi, “Igbo," were borrowed. Oka has been used in Yoruba land for centuries.

seunny4lif:
Please where did it happen.
Are you sure is 2 weeks ago and it's not on news

I reply you because of your Yoruba Id having Yoruba's name's connection, although I may be wrong but it was the reason I replied though. And the picture was taken after the Bruaahaha bodily language of Oba Akiolu. Ooni Babatunde, doesn't represent himself but Yoruba unity. And the Aare crown remain the oldest in Yoruba land. And Oba Akiolu did the needful.

aljharem:
Agidi and Oka are Igbo words

Egusi can never be igbo. Melon does not naturally grow in the east

Bean for moin moin does not grow in the East

What nonsense ?

Oka isn't Ibo's. But Yoruba name for maize flour product suitable for consumption.

buffalowings4:
I don't know if this is a joke or sarcasm

Thanks for the laughs though

You're one he'll of a comedian

He who has no experience can't tell how it feels to know God. You have no experience my dear about doing it all in life. Continue in your ignorance. Go ask those before you that have SEEN THE REAL “STREET LIFE " and got saved before being knocked off by DEATH ? Continue in Your delusion,pseudo scientist or are you one of the fake Nigerian Atheist?

Kunlexic:
u gat no point.

No point?, I beckon on you to study more and know that science can't not give reason for everything.
Attach here are two different personalities with different gift.
One is Thai Ngoc, he hasn't slept since 1973. Science hasn't been able to know why such could happen to a human being.
Secondly, Ma Xiangang,he has the ability to touch electricity without be electrocuted.

Either, I have a point or not, If anyone believes in Jesus Christ, he can be healed from his or her infirmities. If T. B Joshua was fake, he wouldn't go ISREAL, a country where JESUS CHRIST was not even accepted when he was Alive(on planet earth) . Do you not know how inquisitive whites are? You are a learner. Real pastors exists . You better start asking for forgiveness of sins and accepting him as your Lord and personal Savior. However , you will not APPRECIATE if you accept Jesus Christ because people like you need to go through the HARD WAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE JESUS CHRIST IN YOUR LIFE.

sirusX:
Are you sure he can take that kain nairaland type of oath

Nairaland have oath, you mean? Quite interesting. I guess I am not a member of such oath group . On Oath related issues, it is just a child's play!. OATH HAVE BEEN BROKEN EVEN BY THE MOST REVERED HUMAN BEINGS. Save me that part.

Leiman100:
how many countless believing christians die of different diseases everyday. Continue believing bullshit

Look at this young man telling me about “death ". I referred to you as young because your opinion exposed you . How many known Christians have died around you and you couldn't read in their countenance as well as their sermon during burial rite of the dead Christian ? You are really lost. Who ever told you believers don't die? For every miracle received by individuals, God does it to PROOF JESUS CHRIST IS REAL. You better start believing in the name of JESUS CHRIST for you to inherit heaven once your time is up on this earth, else you are HELL BOUND. I am a real man because every passing day that I know I am alive is a favour from God to keep me alive for his purpose. And until death comes ,Jesus Christ remain Supreme to me. I know where I want to go once time is up FOR ME on this earth and always working toward it irrespective of my flaws. Do you know where you are going? The blinds knows nothing about Jesus Christ and the power of his resurrection. Go and learn what KNOWLEDGE OF GOD means. Thereafter, you still have to ACQUIRE WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING OF JESUS CHRIST. A LONG WAY FOR YOU GO.

Kunlexic:
what does believing in Jesus has to do with his health?

Did you read who I quoted? If you didn't then, it is pretty bad. However, to reply your question, I mean, believing in Jesus Christ can heal him of his infirmities and he will be made WHOLE.

ScienceWatch:
As Africa continue to insult and falsely accuse a truly humble man that God has ANOINTED with POWER to most effectively bless Nigeria first spiritually and materially, the Jews have been watching the SCOAN and is taking this awesome blessing from Nigeria.

Will there be a second chance ? The Jews waited and suffered for 2700 years for their second chance.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH AFRICA ? Have they not seen the terrible suffering the Jews had to go through for 2700 years ?

T.B Joshua want to show true Jesus Christ is to the new generation of the few Israelis in the HOLY LAND. He want to show them power of Jesus Christ.

sunnysunny69:
you are a kid and could do with some lecture. Corruption exist in each society but the Scandinavian have some of the least. Their disclosure of budgets information closes the door to waste and misappropriation of public funds. Therefore, we should should seek to promote budget information disclosure as well as enhance participation throughout the budget process. It's a long way to get there but this is a right step even though this thieves allocated billions to themselves. Now that I borrowed you little bit of sense, keep it and share it with your folks *sshole !

You don't really need to abuse the lad. This is because, if you have understudy this forum, many young people are here aggressively commenting on issue they have no knowledge on .And instead to read through first before commenting ,it is always the reverse . And it only show the depth at the kind of society we Nigeria is made up. However, It is a good start to see the National Assembly doing such and I hope all the Nigeria agencies will do follow suit after the National Assembly , which has begun to set the pace to gradually show more openness on what they embark on behalf of the citizens as a whole.

raker300:
Na wa ooo.

Things are happening in this world ooo..thank God he was healed.

They should've called TB Joshua to pray for Buhari nah instead of wasting our money in hospitals

Healing comes to those who believe in the name of JESUS CHRIST in truth. Can you say that PRESIDENT BUHARI believe in the mighty name of JESUS CHRIST?

Well deserved victory.

Cholls:
my brother are you sure this is recent?

Well,you can go verify.

Ooni Erujéjé

Reconciliation is always the key. It is important to respect Yoruba tradition. For those that don't know Yoruba Race, will definitely get themselves to blame when they are turned to laughing STOCK
Ooni and Akiolu: This picture was taken two weeks after Akiolu of Lagos, sent powerful delegations to Oonirisa. Asiwaju in the picture, Ooni of Ife, Oba Rilwan With them, is the Vice President, Professor Yemi Osinbajo.

HOW WONDERFUL TO GIVE RESPECT TO WHOM IT IS DUE. OONIRISA REPRESENT ALL YORUBAS' INTEREST

MayorofLagos:
Very good observation!

I foresee a future not long from now when Yoruba Obas will sit on the throne of their forefathers suited in English dress..... tie and jacket. You can call me an alarmist but I say this to highlight the depth of damage that has befallen us in a span of just 100yrs.. If you dial back the time, 100yrs ago is 1918. What was happening in our communitiy and society in 1918? Check it out online to see. Compare with what we have now.

So in a span of 100yrs we have been whitewashed and made to discredit and violate historical origins.



The academically tutored Yoruba historians reject the idea of Yoruba coming from Arabia East. The trigger to that rejection is the word "Arabia". If it had been said that Yoruba came from Rome, it would not have been a problem at all. Any East is acceptable to them as truthful, however absurd the supporting storyline is, as long Yoruba is not in anyway connected to Arabia, even though every element and aspect of Ancient Yoruba matches to Arabia and the customary guild historians tell us so in their oral recount.

Sensing that resentment, Chinua Achebe, who schooled in Ibadan and familiar with story of Moremi and the Ugbos was the first to attempt a revision and claimed that both the East and the Ugbo referred in Ife history is Iboland and that the name Ibo is actually wrong, his people should hencefort be called Igbo.

Next Bini jumped in and connected the story of Ekaladheran which had long ago been used as a smokescreen to aid acceptance of Eweka, and concluded that Yoruba East is Edoland, not Arabia.

Yoruba historians did not discredit nor counter claim and kill off the Bini blasphemy...it played fittingly into their wish to steer our history away from Mecca.

My dear brother, the academics that reject my history coming from Middle East didn't take it away from the rural dwellers and the evidence at hand present . I am happy that some of us that are trying to unravel the mystery despite the tremendous effort of the western researchers who are always feeling superior in their ideology kept doing so much about Yoruba history. Perhaps, God had ordained them to unravel the hidden part of our history. The aspects the white researchers didn't do much on is finding out the reasons Yoruba of 14th century upward couldn't produce Bronze sculpture as it did with the few ones shown to the world. Why didn't they continue the Bronze Terracotta sculptures? Why did they produce nearly all the sculpture in Bronze colour? If the white stopped, why didn't the Yoruba researchers cum archeologists do much on it? The anomaly again occurred when professor Ogundiran claimed that ILE IFE was inhabited around 3BC,just imagine?, when in fact there are radiocarbon to proof every existence of fossil. No match of 3BC existence at in ILE IFE. The sculptures is part of the Art that links the historical account of Yoruba beyond Africa. Some people might think, some of us want to link our Race with Either Israel or Arabian Peninsula. The truth kept opening up and blood link kept connecting Yoruba beyond Africa.There are DNA link with tribes in West Africa and other part of Africa. Yoruba don't have DNA many groups in Nigeria. It is one of these inconsistency that had made A TINY group of unknown tribe of EFA / UDO before contact with Yoruba group but became popular after the introduction of OBASHIP. Every, system used at ILE IFE was chronically adopted at BINI. And here we are seeing some of them believing the rotten information with no foundation being spread like wide fire. The Eboes did their own when they changed the name to ANOTHER. EDO /UDO won't let me rest too on my heritage. I am here to teach a lot of them history and tell them their identity. Today, it will even shock many here that IYASE RANK IN BINI WAS A SLAVE POSITION. How, then do slave lineage want to tell a Son like me and others about who Odua is?, How many EDOS are free born? They WANT TO GET DIRTY,LET US BEGIN TO OPEN UP FACTS.

Better to be late than never. All the same, a great effort from OONI ,acknowledging and celebrating the talented Yoruba,the new heavy weight world boxing champion. Every success bring along with it more family members but OMOLUABI characteristics brings more adoration. And this, he has as hereditary. So, therefore humility is the leeway to greatness.

Empiree:
You think i have time for op?

I guess you dont know him and his cohorts. They are a waste of time. They are not strangers to me only if you know what that means.

The only way to make them look silly is exactly what i just did

D'accord. It is your world.

Empiree:
DEAL WITH IT

http://naijagists.com/catholic-rev-sister-slept-married-man-4-years-couldnt-resist-sexual-temptation/

The link you pasted has nothing in common with the Op's assertion. You need not turn a religion fora into romance's. Stay on point or just read through till you have a good point to thrust as a shield for prophet Muhammad .

Aderola15:
Aki n bu oba but mo sorry gan, iro ti fo ori Oba Akiolu.

Aderola15:
Aki n bu oba but mo sorry gan, iro ti fo ori Oba Akiolu.

I agree

Beautiful pictures

Nice pictures