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absoluteSuccess:
You r doing a great job sire.

THANK YOU DEAR BROTHER. HOW ARE YOU DOING?

tunderay:
Yeah, that is the fact bro.

SHERIFF WAS A TACTICAL DISTRACTION @ PDP.. TO REIGN SPECIFICALLY AS DEVIL'S ADVOCATE

tosyne2much:
Yes that's very true sha.. How u dey boss?

HEAVILY LOYAL and you?

tosyne2much:
Only a silly person fights another person over these clowns who call themselves our leaders

True to an extent but some Leaders are FIRM ON THEIR IDEOLOGIES as it regard STEWARDSHIP

Haoqi24:
Mamuno, I am Yoruba... And you trying to reconcile your slave masters folklore to give yourself an identity is shameful to your roots. You don't even know it wasn't David who wrote the psalms. You suggesting Yoruba is the cursed lost 10 tribes how insulting. That they don't know what they do?

...WHY DO YORUBA LAND HAVE A SPIRITUAL HOME CALLED ILE IFE? WHY DO YORUBA HAVE A KING AND PRIEST AS ONE HEAD KING OVER ALL OTHER KINGS? IT WAS ONLY IN ISRAEL THAT SUCH HAPPENED IN ANCIENT TIMES....READ STORY OF MODI'IN DYNASTY.... JERUSALEM WAS THE ONLY SPIRITUAL HOME OF ISRAEL.... DAVIDIC LINEAGE WAS THE HEAD KING OF ALL OTHER KINGS...OYO KINGDOM AND ILE KINGDOM LOOK LIKE THE PROTOTYPE OF JERUSALEM AND NOTHERN ISRAEL......I REST MY CASE..

igbodefender:
Hahahaha @ thread. Lawani my friend, well done. But I disagree with you on Ugbodu and Ogba being Yoruba. Rather, they are Lucumi Igbo (Ife aboriginal peoples).



Obatala is a West African Lucumi Igbo name. They were known as Oba Igbo and Obi Osere Igbo -ancient Igbo royal titles. 'Obi ' is an Igbo word for 'king'. 'Osere' is an Igbo word for priest. 'Igbo' is self explanatory.

I can't stop laughing...don't Come near me ooo or else I will deal a heavy blow on you...I am PURE YORUBA THAT KNOW HIS HISTORY....
KINDLY TELL ME WHERE IN IBO HISTORY DO YOU BEAR OBA TALA? WHERE DID OGBONI STARTED FROM? WHERE DO YOU BEAR AKIN (OBAMAKIN)(OBA-MU-AKIN) IN YOUR IBO NAME?
YOUR ORIGINAL NAME WAS NOT IGBO

READ THE STORY OF A YORUBA OLUKUNMI WARRIOR IN 18TH CENTURY
CALLED; CARLOTTA
Carlota, together with another Yoruba man; Eduardo and the Manuel gang, led the rebellion against the mayoral of the mill and his assistants. During this period there were numerous confrontations between the slaves and the prevailing slave regime. Slaves did not know the day or exact place of their birth and they carried out the insurrection in the yumurinas lands. The masters' house and residence was burnt down, and also part of the bohíos of the batey. The rebellion managed to extend through the province of Matanzas to the endowments of the mills "Ácana", "Concepción", "San Lorenzo" and " San Miguel ", and numerous coffee plantations and cattle farms.
Drums were the method of communication. There were two Yoruba Africans in connection: Evaristo and Fermina, of the ingenuity "Acana". They devoted themselves to campaigning among the slaves to put an end to the brutality of the system. They managed to communicate by the drums which they interpreted with eloquence. On the 5th of November of 1843, the slaves of "Triunvirato" rebelled.
In the "San Rafael" mill, Carlota died while fighting in March 1844.[4]
There is a monument dedicated to Carlota which stands amidst the ruins of the Triunvirato mill in the province of Matanzas




DO YOU EVEN KNOW OBATALA'S OTHER NAME? HIS OTHER NAME DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF OSERE? WHO REALLY TOLD YOU ABOUT OSERE? THEN YOU CAN CLAIM ISERI AS YOUR PEOPLE. LET ANGRY YORUBA PEOPLE CATCH YOU. IF YOU ARE OBSESSED ABOUT IDENTIFICATION WITH YORUBA, GO AND JOIN OGBONI OR OSUBGBO OR LEARN IFA FOR AT LEAST 16EARS . AND IF YOU ARE VERY BRILLIANT BUT IF YOU ARE NOT, YOU CAN SPEND 25-30YEARS.

THE CHOICE IS YOURS....

Hbuyosh:
But most of his claims hav arleady been discounted.

The claims I see on that write up are right... Lagos is richer than many combined cities in Kenya. Glo network has the highest and the most developed IT FACILITIES in Africa. in terms of individual wealth, The cost of owning a. landed property in Ikoyi /Lekki /Banana Island speak of the kind of wealth in Nigeria. Not until recent, Nigeria was the largest economic power in Africa before now, we are in the second position because Egypt has just allowed the market forces to determine the equivalent of dollar to Egyptian pound.

Oduduwaa:
So bcus i do not mar my self in prospotrous self boasting and mediocrity that makes me not yoruba!

U are clearly Unstable and Obssesed with anytin Edo

Do not drag yoruba nation into the gutter dat u stay in

ce'est quoi? laisse Moi frere

tammie24:
hmmm
This is very cool

I am not one of those that want to be attached to Israelites by FORCE OR FIRE because according to the Hebrew Bible, every one who accept to follow Jesus and his dictates will inherit the kingdom of God. This shows God accept everyone in the world that decides to obey and follow his dictates. So, I am proud as a Yoruba man forever. I have ORIKI IDILE. I AM PROUD OF YORUBA PEOPLE ALWAYS AND WILL IDENTIFY WITH MY TRADITION. BUT FACTS DON'T LIE. I HAVE STUDIED YORUBA SO MUCH WITH EGYPTIANS, EVEN MECCA. precisely, MECCA had no group of people who lived there and having a king, Who was killed by uprising and chased out the place. The only group that had such were the Israelites when Northern Israel were carried away after being destroyed by ASSYRIANS and the total destruction of Jerusalem by Babylonians during the reign of king Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. The place found to be closer to Yoruba history migration theories are MODI'IN(MEDINA),MEDES, NINEVEH MODI'IN FIT INTO ISRAEL INHABITANTS IN THE MIDDLE EAST. It is still in the archives of Middle East history that ISRAELITES WERE SETTLED DOWN IN HOMOGENEOUS WAY THROUGH OUT THEIR CAPTIVITY BECAUSE THEY WERE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN IDEOLOGY AND THEY WORSHIP ONE GOD. THE KINGLY FORMAT OF ISRAEL WAS THAT THEY HAD ONE SUPREME KING AND HE IS ALSO THE SPIRITUAL HEAD OF ALL OTHER KINGS . THIS IS THE SAME WITH YORUBA TRADITION AS HAVING ONE SUPREME KING AND HE IS ALSO THE SPIRITUAL HEAD OF ALL OTHER KINGS. CAN'T YOU SEE THESE FIT IN TO YORUBA STORY?. THE YORUBA LANGUAGE IS NOT AMONG ONE OF THE OLDEST LANGUAGE IN THE WORLD....THIS IS A FACT.

Oduduwaa:
Thread very carefully nor let benin matter kill you and stop making a mockery of we yorubas .... Benins had 41ogisos and 40obas making it 81kings till date..... Leave argument for intelletuals and STOP DISGRACING YORUBA NATION..... U CLEARLY LACK KNOWLEDGE IN HISTORY...

It is obvious you are not a Yoruba boy but an imposter. I still decided to be open minded. And I had thought you reason along truthful path but I can see you are clearly one of the pseudointelligent..Excusé moi

Oduduwaa:
Thread very carefully nor let benin matter kill you and stop making a mockery of we yorubas .... Benins had 41ogisos and 40obas making it 81kings till date..... Leave argument for intelletuals and STOP DISGRACING YORUBA NATION..... U CLEARLY LACK KNOWLEDGE IN HISTORY...

It is obvious you are not a Yoruba boy but an imposter. I still decided to be open minded. And I had thought you reason along truthful path but I can see you are clearly a pseudointelligent..Excusé moi

Everfrank:
This grandfather phone was just auctioned for $250 million in Maryland, USA. It was used by Adolf Hitler during the second world War. The nazi leader had his name engraved on it. It was recovered by Allied Forces from his house in 1945.
The phone is considered by collectors to be the most lethal of all the weapons used by Hitler to execute the war.
How much will you pay for this phone and for what?
Courtesy BBC.

STOP SPREADING FAKE NEWS ON THIS FORUM

THIS IS ADOLF HITLER TELEPHONE AUCTION INFO
Adolf Hitler's personal telephone, which the Fuehrer used to dictate many of his deadly World War II commands, has sold at auction for $243,000.
Originally a black Bakelite phone, later painted crimson and engraved with Hitler's name, the relic was found in the Nazi leader's Berlin bunker in 1945 following the regime's defeat.
The auction house Alexander Historical Auctions, which did not reveal the winning bidder's identity, had estimated its worth between $200,000 and $300,000.
The starting bid was set at $100,000.
The Maryland company auctioned off more than a thousand items including the phone and a porcelain sculpture of an Alsatian dog for $24,300


Nonsense!

truthwins:
Thanks bro.
God.bless you.

Uwc

Henrydone:
So this argument is still on,to stop pre-ambling let hit the nail at the top and bury the hatchet

ECONOMY


Nigeria
GDP-------$492.986 billion (nominal)
$1,105.548 billion (PPP)
Rank in the world-----21st position

GDP per capita----$2,758(nominal)
$6,184(PPP)
GDP by sector-----Agriculture---17.5%
Industry----25.7%
Services---54.6%
Poverty line-------33%
Exports------petroleum,petroleum products,vehicles,aircraft parts,vessels,vegetables,processed foods,beverages,spices,cashews nuts,processed leather,cocoa tobacco aluminum alloy.



KENYA
GDP--------$65.899 billion (nominal)
$145.6 billion (PPP)
Rank in the world-----72nd
GDP per capita-----$1,587(nominal)
$3,304(PPP)
GDP by sector------Agriculture--24.2%
Industry--14.8%
Services--62.5%
Poverty line 42%
Exports--small scale consumer goods (plastics furniture batteries textiles soap cigarettes floor mills agricultural and horticultural products oil refining aluminum steel lead cement ship repair and tourism

Sources---CIA WORLD FACT BOOK

Check it out https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy-of-kenya.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy-of-nigeria.html


EDUCATION

Of the 200 best universities in Africa 16 Nigeria universities ranked when only 5 ranked in Kenya

Check it out
http://www.4icu.org/top-universities-africa/html

Bottom line a university in Nigeria came before any other universities in Kenya,that not even the point for a country that claimed to be better having such low number compared to the country it claims to be than is just unacceptable


MILITARY POWER

Nigeria military are far stronger than that of Kenya

Check this to prove
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-africa-asp

And this
http://answersafrica.com/7-african-countries-with-highest-military-strength.html/5




TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT

Nigeria is more technologically advanced

I don't just claim,am factual in my claims
Check this out
http://www.siliconafrica.com/top-10-countries-in-africa-regarding-technology/html

ICT ADVANCEMENT
Owwwww Nigeria rocks everything

Check it
http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2013/10/africa-10-most-connected-countries.html

BEST CITIES

Cities matter can only be comprehend by folks with open mind,some cities may be good than the other in some aspects in SA Cape Town is the most beautiful city but johhanesburg will always be the best city in SA,here in Nigeria Abuja is beautiful than Lagos,but Lagos remain the city in Nigeria it can offer anything a city offer,Lagos is not really beautiful Nairobi maybe ahead but Abuja is also more beautiful than Nairobi,but Lagos is better than any of those cities Lagos is the second second best city in Africa following johhanesburg,

http://answersafrica.com/london-greatest-worlds-best-city.html

Abuja is second to Cape Town when it comes to beauty

http://Constantine.com/people/lifestyle/10-most-beautiful-and-most-developed-cities-in-africa

HOUSING AND BUSINESS ESTATES VALUE
Lagos is the most expensive city in Africa
https://techpoint.ng/2016/08/09/lagos-launch-startup/

ELECTRICITY
Nigeria is 4th largest electricity producer in Africa following SA Egypt and Libya

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?t=100&v=79&l=en

SLUMS AND SHANTYTOWN
One would easily assume Nigeria the most populous country in Africa should have the largest slum but only to notice Kenya dominating in this regard,not just having the largest but the most numerous check it out
www.africanranking.com/20-worst-slums-in-africa/html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List-of-slums



The datum that Kenya is ahead Nigeria in all aspect is indeed a pseudo

Excellent write up....

tammie24:
IBO people go vex for you this afternoon

IT IS NOT ABOUT EGOCENTRISM BUT THE TRUTH. YORUBA DON'T CLAIM JEWS BECAUSE OF SELF PRIDE. IT IS THE QUALITY OF THE ANCIENT ISRAELITES. THEY CLAIM SUPERIORITY OVER OTHER TRIBES EVEN WHEN THEY ACT OR LIVE PEACEFUL WITH OTHERS BECAUSE THE ANCIENT ISRAELITES CLAIM DESCENDANTS OF SONS OF GOD. THIS IS ONE MAJOR CHARACTERISTICS OF YORUBA PEOPLE. FROM ORUNMILA, OBATALA, ODUA ARE CLAIMED TO DESCEND FROM GOD. THE MINDSETS OF CONFIDENCE. THUS, THEY HAVE, FEELING OF PRIDE SUPERIORITY EVEN WHEN THEY DON'T WIN A COURSE THEY CHASE AFTER. LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF ISRAELITES, THEY LIVE AROUND MOUNTAINOUS ENVIRONMENT AND DEEP FOREST ENVIRONMENT AS A SHIELD IN THE ANCIENT TIMES. CHECK ISRAEL'S PLACE OF ABODE AND ENVIRONMENTS .KINDLY VISIT YORUBA LAND AND VIEW THEIR LOCATIONS, YOU WILL BE AMAZED AT THIS FACTS THAT THEIR ABODE IS NEAR MOUNTAINS AND DEEP FORESTED ENVIRONMENT.

truthwins:
How could Jesus teach in the Qur'an when it was said to be entirely revelations from Gabriel (Jubril)?

Okay, what and where did Jesus teach in the Qur'an?

Keep it up and Stay blessed.

Living4christ:
Can you tell me how many Jewish organization or group has visited yoruba land for fact finding mission as of whether yorubas are israelites? None.

How many synagogue is in yorubaland with this population? (picx)

How many certificate have you received as concerning your claim?

But you know, they have visited igbo land thrice or more, first was the ambasador of israel, next was the Solomon Shepherdic federation, and so on. the latest jewish professors doing DNA testing on ndi anambara.

FUNNY. VERY FUNNY INDEED. WHERE ON EARTH DOES CERTIFICATE TURN TO A RACE? WE ARE REFERRING TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH DISTINCT CULTURE AND HAVING SUPREME GOD THAT WONT ASK ANYTHING FROM HUMAN BEINGS BUT HAVE FEELINGS LIKE HUMAN BEINGS, TALK LIKE HUMAN BEINGS AND FEEL LIKE HUMAN BEINGS BUT HAS NO BEGINNING NOR END.... THIS IS WHAT MADE ISRAEL DIFFERENT FROM OTHER NATIONS. A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT HAD NO MONARCHY SYSTEM BUT ADOPTED TO BE LIKE OTHER NATIONS. THIS IS MISSING IN ANCIENT IBOS TRADITION. ALL THE IGWES, OBIS ARE RECENT PAST. KINGS IN YORUBA LAND HAD BEEN THOUSANDS OF YEARS. I GIVE EVIDENCE AND BACK IT UP. THE WHOLE WORLD HAVE HISTORY AND IF AFRICANS AREN'T READY TO FIND ANYTHING ABOUT THEMSELVES BECAUSE IT IS A HAMITIC CONTINENT ,THE HISTORIANS ARE LOOKING FOR THE 10+1 LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL. YORUBA IS AN ISRAELI GROUP HAVING A LEVANT TRADITION. HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THAT YORUBA ARE HOMOGENEOUS IN SETTLEMENT? WE DON'T LIKE TRAVELING OUT AS SUCH AND ANYWHERE YORUBA FIND THEMSELVES , YORUBA ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

Living4christ:
Well lets just wait for the DNA test to come ou we will know the deal.

One thing you faild to understand is that Igbo language is one of the oldest language in the world that has remained uncurrupted, Hebrew as we know is currupted, the jews to day don't speak original hebrew, Igbo on the other hand is the older version of Hebrew, the word "igbo" was first written as "Heebo" during the trans Atlantic slave trade when Igbos was the demand in the market, the word heebo has striken similarities with the world "Hebrew".

Egyptian does not circumcise, so where did we learn to circumcise?

Igbos though have been here before Eri of Gad of Israel, came via omambala river and intermarried with Igbos by the direction of God, this shows that Igbos does not only share lineage with Hebrews, but with Israel also.

YORUBA LANGUAGE IS NOT ONE OF THE OLDEST IN THE WORLD AND ISRAEL LANGUAGE ISN'T EITHER. THEN WHERE DID IBO LANGUAGE DEVELOPED PROPERLY FROM?
DO YOU KNOW BANTU GROUP PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STUDIED BY RESEARCHERS TO HAVE ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED FROM NIGERIA?

A SHOCKING AND COMPELLING FACT FINDING /RESEARCH ON IBOS A. K. A“IGBOS"

Egyptians were Igbos. [11] These linguistic pieces of evidence suggest that the earliest Egyptian civilization (the time when gods and not men ruled Egypt) before Pharaohnic rule began in 3,100 BC was based in West Africa and not in North Africa – the civilization, now lost to which the Igbo Ukwu archaeological findings belong. [12] We have found several pieces of evidence supporting this assertion which will be published in subsequent articles.
Ptah’s son was called Ra , meaning ‘Sun/Daylight’. It’s Igbo original was Ora (which in
Afa – the cult language of Igbo native priests, also meant ‘Sun/daylight’).
The grandson of Ra was called Osiris by the Greeks and Asar by the Egyptians. Osiris’ was associated with the number ‘seven’. No one knows the meaning of his name in Egypt
[13] , but in Igbo language Asaa means ‘seven’!

Living4christ:
This shows that you don't really understand the igbo culture.

1. Not all class of Igbo makes themselves with ichi. The Ichi is a mark given to titled men, it identifies them among the society, men who are marked with ichi are not allowed to carry any load or do any work. That was the purpose of the mark, it was not a tribal mark. And can you explain how yorubas started having tribal marks?

2. Igbos does not worship any sun God, we have a supreme God whom we worship, he is refereed to as Chukwu okike Abiama, it means God the Creator. Take note, Omenala or omenani (which means customs of our land/Our customs which is idolatrous) that is being practice by the igbos today is not original to Igbos, it is a borrowed culture, borrowed form the Bijango people (the people of the forest) of guinea. This culture introduced many figurative worship, ranging from Agbala (godess of the earth), Amadioha, and many others. So what the Igbos practice today as their religion is just a borrowed culture, it is not ours. This was the main reason Arochukwu fell, they were given to Idolatry and wickedness.

3. Osu was not practised in every part of Igbo land, the spread of osu practice was as a result of the slave trade, it was a common practice for the Arochukwu Igbos, who then were the chief actor of selling their kins to slavery. The practise of osu helped them got more slave, because when a person is considered an "osu", he is bound to be sold out as a slave or bound to serve in the shrine.

DEFEND THIS:

Amadioha is the Alusi (god) of thunder and lightning of the Igbo people of southeastern
Nigeria. He is amongst the most popular of Igbo deities and in some parts of Igboland , he is referred to as Amadiora , Kamalu (which is short for Kalu Akanu ), [1] Kamanu , [2] or Ofufe .
[3] Astrologically, his governing planet is the
Sun . [4] His color is red, and his symbol is a white ram. [5] Metaphysically, Amadioha represents the collective will of the people. [6] He is often associated with Anyanwu , who is the Igbo god of the Sun. While Anyanwu is more prominent in northern Igboland, Amadioha is more prominent in the southern part. His day is Afo, which is the third market day of the Igbo four-day week .


ORIGIN
Literally Amadioha means man of the people. Most people from the eastern part of Nigeria ascribe the name to their local deity/god. Shrines to Amadioha still exist in different parts of Igboland, but the main shrine is located at Ogboro Ama Ukwu or Ihiokpu as it is called in Ozuzu in Etche Local Government Area of present-day Rivers State , Nigeria. Although it is located there, it is not the patron deity of the people of Ozuzu. In fact, it is said that Ozuzu is the town in which Amadioha "lives" and it serves as it earthly headquarters. It is from there that it spread to other parts of Igboland.




LEARN TO INFORM PROPERLY

Living4christ:
This shows that you don't really understand the igbo culture.

1. Not all class of Igbo makes themselves with ichi. The Ichi is a mark given to titled men, it identifies them among the society, men who are marked with ichi are not allowed to carry any load or do any work. That was the purpose of the mark, it was not a tribal mark. And can you explain how yorubas started having tribal marks?

2. Igbos does not worship any sun God, we have a supreme God whom we worship, he is refereed to as Chukwu okike Abiama, it means God the Creator. Take note, Omenala or omenani (which means customs of our land/Our customs which is idolatrous) that is being practice by the igbos today is not original to Igbos, it is a borrowed culture, borrowed form the Bijango people (the people of the forest) of guinea. This culture introduced many figurative worship, ranging from Agbala (godess of the earth), Amadioha, and many others. So what the Igbos practice today as their religion is just a borrowed culture, it is not ours. This was the main reason Arochukwu fell, they were given to Idolatry and wickedness.

3. Osu was not practised in every part of Igbo land, the spread of osu practice was as a result of the slave trade, it was a common practice for the Arochukwu Igbos, who then were the chief actor of selling their kins to slavery. The practise of osu helped them got more slave, because when a person is considered an "osu", he is bound to be sold out as a slave or bound to serve in the shrine.

It seems you didn't get the question correctly. I didn't ask anything concerning tribal marks. Instead, I asked about the reason for giving such marks. And I have read the reason but as you portrayed it as having to do with chiefs in ancient Ibo land. Infarct,they were a rejected kind of people during slave trade Area. I don't want to digress but strictly to ISRAEL IDENTITY CRISIS OF IBOS VS YORUBA TRADITION SHOWING SIMILARITIES WITH ISRAELITE JUDAISM.
If today, Ibos claim to have SYNAGOGUE,THEY OWE YORUBA MAN A GREAT THANK YOU BECAUSE YORUBA MAN WAS THE FIRST RABBI IN THE HISTORY OF DARK SKIN ISRAELITES. AND ETHIOPIANS JEWS CALLED FALASAS OR BETA ISRAEL. YORUBA HAVE ALWAYS BEING A PROUD PEOPLE WHOSE RELIGION IS SEEN BY THEM AS THE WAY TO CONNECT TO GOD. You've not answered my questions on Ibo religion... Tell me the gods of Ibo called HAMADIOHA. Shango didn't create thunder but learnt the art of using thunder to fight from NUPE. YORUBA DON'T LIE. AND AFTER HIS DEATH, HE WAS DEFIED AS THE god of Thunder and this didn't make him equal to YORUBA almighty GOD called ELEDUMARE

Living4christ:
Anybody can practice Judaism but everybody are jews, Arnold Josiah was practicing Judaism does not mean he is Jew. As we speak there is a place reserved for Igbos in Israel till today.

BLOODY LIE! ARNOLD JOSIAH FORD DIDN'T WANT TO PRACTICE IS BECAUSE HE THINK HE LOVED JUDAISM BUT STARTED IT BECAUSE HE KNEW HIS ANCIENT YORUBA TRADITION WAS FULL OF IT. REMEMBER, IN THOSE YEARS, AS A DARK SKIN, YOU ARE BEING PERSECUTED MORE AND THERE AREN'T AVENUE TO EVEN HAVE ACCESS TO READING THE TORAH AS IT IS OF TODAY.... IT IS ONLY THOSE THAT WANT TO CHANGE THEIR RELIGION TO JUDAISM THAT NEED BE BAPTISED INTO THE MODERN ONE. IT HAS ALWAYS BEING A YORUBA TRADITION.... READ EL-A, READ ABOUT ELEMI, ELEDUMARE,ELEDUA,OLORUN,
THESE ARE PERSONALITIES LIKENED TO ISRAEL.. TELL US WHY YOU IBOS REFUSED TO OPEN UP ON YOUR ORTHODOX TRADITIONS
THIS THE ONLY WAY TO IDENTIFY YOU WITH ISRAEL... HAVE YOU ASKED YOURSELF WHY WERE THE ANCIENT YORUBA MEN AND WOMEN HAVE ANTI BODY HORMONES THAT FIGHT AGAINST LASSA FEVER? WE ARE PRACTICALLY NON AFRICANS BUT A MIXTURE OF SOME MANY TRIBES DUE TO INTER MARRIAGE. YORUBA TRADITION IS STRICTLY PECULIAR TO YORUBA LAND ONLY AND PEOPLE ONLY. WHO IS HAMADIOHA?

Living4christ:
Can you tell me how many Jewish organization or group has visited yoruba land for fact finding mission as of whether yorubas are israelites? None.

How many synagogue is in yorubaland with this population? (picx)

How many certificate have you received as concerning your claim?

But you know, they have visited igbo land thrice or more, first was the ambasador of israel, next was the Solomon Shepherdic federation, and so on. the latest jewish professors doing DNA testing on ndi anambara.

The reason they came was to see if you TRULY IBOS HAVE any traces that LINK THEM TO ISRAEL.....WHAT CAN YOU TELL US why do igbos initiates marked themselves with the symbol of the sun – ichi , a word derived from another name of the Sun/daylight, chi, which is also the name of the spirit of God in Man and from which originated the Greek word Christ..

YORUBA HAVE NO GOD WORSHIPPED IN THE SUN...BUT SUPREME GOD AND HE IS THE OWNER OF ALL THINGS, DETERMINES ALL THINGS AND PASS DOWN MESSAGES THROUGH HIS PROPHETS/PRIESTS/PRIESTESSES EUNUCH IN YORUBA AREN'T LIKE OSU WHO ARE CONSECRATED TO gods in IBO LAND. IN YORUBA LAND,THESE ARE HIGHLY REVERED PEOPLE WHO ARE INITIATED INTO EUNUCH HOOD AND BECOME CONSECRATED TO SERVING THE KINGS AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE...

Living4christ:
Can you tell me how many Jewish organization or group has visited yoruba land for fact finding mission as of whether yorubas are israelites? None.

How many synagogue is in yorubaland with this population? (picx)

How many certificate have you received as concerning your claim?

But you know, they have visited igbo land thrice or more, first was the ambasador of israel, next was the Solomon Shepherdic federation, and so on. the latest jewish professors doing DNA testing on ndi anambara.

Excellent question; Modern JUDAISM being practised in MODERN ISRAEL still have touches with YORUBA CORE TRADITIONS in YORUBA LAND. Another is the founder of JUDAISM for the dark skinned Hebrews called ARNOLD JOSIAH FORD in the United States of America. Now, read what one WHITE RABBI SAID ABOUT ARNOLD JOSIAH'S TEACHING “ A Jewish scholar who visited the congregation described their services as “a mixture of Reform and Orthodox Judaism, but when they practice the old customs they are seriously orthodox” (Kobre, 25). Harlem chronicler James VanDerZee" These were said in 1924.... YORUBA religion is so strong that it's has been termed accord to this study:
“On the basis of comparative studies between the dynastic tradition of the Oyo-Yoruba and ancient Near Eastern history, the present article argues that
Yoruba traditions of provenance, claiming immigration from the Near East, are basically correct . According to Ọyo-Yoruba tradition, the ancestral Yoruba saw the Assyrian conquests of the Israelite kingdom from the ninth and the eighth centuries B.C. from the perspective of the Israelites . After the fall of Samaria in 722 B.C.., they were deported to eastern Syria and
adopted the ruling Assyrian kings as their own.” – Origin of the Yoruba and “The Lost Tribes of Israel”, By Dierk Lange

Though there isn't A DNA test on any part of Yoruba land but be rest assured.. YORUBA LAND IS THE JEWISH SCIENTISTS DESTINATION. DO YOU KNOW THERE IS A SCROLL CALLED “IDI" AND BEING WORSHIPED AT ILE IFE ? THE EXCAVATION IN YORUBA LAND YET UNDONE WILL UNRAVEL ALL THESE MYSTERY...

LASTLY IF A PROFESSOR WHO HAS USED ALL HIS LIFE STUDYING WEST AFRICA HISTORY IS BOLD TO WRITE IT OUT AND PRONOUNCED “YORUBA AS ISRAEL".... Then you need to PONDER ON SUCH INFORMATION.....

THE STORY OF A TOWN IN ANCIENT ISRAEL CALLED MODI'IN


The name "Modi'in" ( Hebrew : מודיעין ) derives from the village "Modi'im" [4] of the high priest Mattathias and his five sons, which was located in the same area as the modern city. The name "Maccabim" is Hebrew for the
Maccabees and is a common nickname given to mattiathias and his five sons

In Ancient Israel, a town named Modi'in existed in the general area the modern city is located in. It was the place of origin of the Jewish Hasmonean dynasty that ruled Judea in the 1st and 2nd centuries BCE , and it is where the Maccabean revolt against the
Seleucid Greeks started. Ancient Jewish artifacts believed to date to the Hasmonean and First Temple periods have been found in that area

The Hasmonean dynasty [2] ( / ˌhæzməˈniːən/
( audio ); Hebrew : חשמונאים , Roman.
Ḥashmona'im ) was the ruling dynasty of Judea and surrounding regions during classical antiquity . Between c. 140 and c. 116 BCE the dynasty ruled semi-autonomously from the
Seleucids in the region of Judea. From 110 BCE, with the Seleucid empire disintegrating, the dynasty became fully independent, expanded into the neighbouring regions of
Samaria , Galilee , Iturea , Perea , and Idumea , and took the title " basileus". Some modern scholars refer to this period as an independent kingdom of Israel. [3]
In 63 BCE, the kingdom was conquered by the Roman Republic, broken up and set up as a Roman client state. The dynasty had survived for 103 years before yielding to the
Herodian dynasty in 37 BCE. Even then, Herod the Great tried to bolster the legitimacy of his reign by marrying a Hasmonean princess,
Mariamne , and planning to drown the last male Hasmonean heir at his Jericho palace.

The dynasty was established under the leadership of Simon Maccabaeus , two decades after his brother Judah the Maccabee ( יהודה המכבי " Y'hudhah HaMakabi " defeated the
Seleucid army during the Maccabean Revolt . According to historical sources, including 1 Maccabees and 2 Maccabees and the first book of The Jewish War by Jewish historian
Flavius Josephus (AD 37–c. 100), [4] after
Antiochus IV's successful invasion of Ptolemaic Egypt was turned back by the intervention of the Roman Republic,[5][6] Antiochus instead moved to assert strict control over the Seleucid satrapy of Coele Syria and Phoenicia,
[7] sacking Jerusalem and its Temple , suppressing Jewish and Samaritan religious and cultural observances, [7] and imposing
Hellenistic practices. The ensuing revolt by the Jews (167 BCE) began a period of Jewish independence potentiated by the steady collapse of the Seleucid Empire under attacks from the rising powers of the Roman Republic and the Parthian Empire.
However, the same power vacuum
that enabled the Jewish state to be recognized by the
Roman Senate c. 139 BCE was later exploited by the Romans themselves. Hyrcanus II and
Aristobulus II , Simon's great-grandsons, became pawns in a proxy war between Julius Caesar and Pompey the Great . The deaths of Pompey (48 BCE), Caesar (44 BCE), and the related
Roman civil wars temporarily relaxed Rome's grip on Israel, allowing a very brief Hasmonean resurgence backed by the Parthian Empire . This short independence was rapidly crushed by the Romans under Mark Antony and Octavian .
The installation of Herod the Great (an Idumean) as king in 37 BCE made Israel a Roman client state and marked the end of the Hasmonean dynasty. In AD 6, Rome joined
Judea proper, Samaria and Idumea (biblical Edom ) into the Roman province of Iudaea. In AD 44, Rome installed the rule of a Roman procurator side by side with the rule of the Herodian kings (specifically Agrippa I 41–44
and Agrippa 11 50-100)

The family name of the Hasmonean dynasty originates with the ancestor of the house,
Greek : Ἀσαμωναῖος ( Asamoneus or
Asmoneus ) (see Josephus Flavius), [8] who is said to have been the great-grandfather of
Mattathias , but about whom nothing more is known. An alternative view posits that the Hebrew name Hashmona'i is linked with the village of Heshbon , mentioned in Joshua 15:27 . Gott and Licht attribute the name to "Ha Simeon," a veiled reference to the Simeonite Tribe.

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searchng4love:
Ijebu is not Yoruba

OYO, ONDO,OWO,IDANRE,,OKA, IKARE, OMU ARAN, OFFA, ABEOKUTA,IBADAN, ISHERI, OJO,IJEBU,EKITI,IJESA,OLUKUNMI AWORI,YAAGBA, KAABA, JEBA etc are names to describe accordingly to their settlement BUT THEY SPOKE THE SAME LANGUAGE,SAME.TRADITION EVEN IF ONE TRIES TO BECOME MORE CIVILIZED. DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE REASON TRIBAL. MARKS BEGUN IN YORUBA LAND? . And YORUBA PRECISELY IS A MODERN NAME WHICH CAME UP IN 16TH CENTURY DURING YORUBAS ASSESSING TRADE IN SONGHAI EMPIRE . SO, DONT KILL YOURSELF(VES) OVER YORUBA HISTORY. HAVE YOU HEARD OF AKU? USERE-MAGBO?I KNOW MANY OF YOU KNOWS ODUA

lx3as:
I like you and your work. Eledumore a maa gbe yin lowo soke, e pe fun wa. I hope you are also documenting all your write up on Nairaland?

Yorubas amaze me with their spirituality; this seems to be inborn with each of true Yoruba. Hence the survival of their religion, tradition and culture worldwide.

Yoruba spirituality only compares with Jews and I have been observing this; just look at the 'a kehinde de gbegbon' story, it's simply Jacob and Esau's story. Also Moremi and her son, Eti story, is simply Mary and Jesus' story. Eti died on Friday, there was Abameta's meeting on Saturday, Ojo Aiku, Sunday means he rose...
My findings showed that A Jewish Tribe came earlier to stay with the ancient Atlantis people around present Akure, Ikere, Owo, Ife regions. There were subsequent journeys from the "East". Some groups of Christian Phoenicians even followed some Jews to present Yorubaland, though through the sea, some came from Saudi peninsula through Yemen to Kushland and to Ife. The routes were through Egypt to Bornu to either Zaria to Igboho to Ife or to Adamawa to Kuharafa to Igalaland and to Ekiti. The last Jewish group came from Spain through Morocco to Mauritania to Mali (where Banawa people stopped) to Ondo-Ekiti axis with Torah.

There should be archeological research around Akure to unearth some vital instruments of information. Ekitis call father, Aba or Aaba instead of Baba and they are very very spiritual. I always have this belief that Yorubas have something in common with Jews and to Yorubas, Eledua decision is final and supersedes all other gods or deities.

You have well said. The Yoruba are a complete set of ISRAEL GROUP. The settlement structure testifies. The oriki testifies( genealogically,Yoruba will trace their ancestors), this is only a trait of Israel. Yoruba Eledumare is equivalent of almighty God with the qualities. He was even more described in Yoruba IFA and he was said to have robbed his head with OYERISUN(WHITE POWDER SUBSTANCE ON HIS) WHICH MEANS HE HIS AGELESS. HE SPOKE AND SAID AGAIN IN ONE PART OF IFA OGUDU and declared; He cannot die(This is the same personality with ISRAEL GOD THE TORAH, THERE IS A PART OF THE ANCIENT SCROLL CALLED “IDI" WHICH IS STILL BEING WORSHIPPED AT ILE IFE, THIS IDI PREDATES THE TIME OF JESUS CHRIST ON EARTH. THEN AFTER THE ASSASSINATION OF TWO KINGS OF JUDAH AND ISRAEL DURING JEHU'S TIME IN ANCIENT ISRAEL, THE SKULL OF THE DIVINE KINGS OF ISRAEL THAT WERE BEING WORSHIPPED IN ANCIENT ISRAEL IS BEING WORSHIPPED UNDER THE NAME OF OBATALA. THERE ARE NO TRACES OF SO MANY KINGS IN YORUBA LAND YET THEY ARE PART OF OUR HISTORICAL KINGS . YORUBA GROUP IS THE ONLY GROUP THAT CLAIMED GOD AS THEIR FATHER THROUGH OUT ALL THEIRB HISTORY EITHER FROM ORUNMILA, OBATALA OR ODUA. AND THEY BACKED IT UP WITH ODU IFA. NO OTHER TRIBES HAVE THIS STRONG EVIDENCE YET WE DON'T CLAIM IT BECAUSE WE SEE OURSELVES AS THE MOST SUPERIOR HUMAN BEINGS ON EARTH. THIS WAS THE SAME EGOCENTRIC IDEOLOGY OF ISRAELITES. IF YOU READ JOHN 9 vs 41 WHEN JESUS WAS ACCUSED OF BLASPHEMY,THEY CLAIMED “GOD IS OUR FATHER" . HOWEVER, THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMELS BACK WAS THE PROFESSOR EMERITUS DIERK LANGE, WHO STUDIED THE YORUBA CULTURE VERY WELL IN COMPARISON WITH ANCIENT ISRAEL AND SAW IT AS THE SAME PEOW BUT THAT WE HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED IN AFRICA THROUGH INTER MARRIAGES AND ADOPTION OF OTHER CUSTOMS BUT CERTAIN TRADITION REMAINED INTACT AS IT RELATES TO GOD AND ISRAEL IDENTITY .. WELL, I AM A CORE YORUBA AND WAS BORN FOR PURPOSE LIKEWISE EVERY OTHER INDIVIDUALS. LET US WORK TO ASCERTAIN OUR IDENTITY


THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENT..

searchng4love:
Ijebus are from south Sudan...

And their artifacts,language and traditions is Yoruba. How did that happened?

Territorial expansion and dialogue among the powerful states of the Guinea coast region of West Africa resulted in exchanges that were not only economic but also artistic and cultural in nature. As a result, Owo, Ijebu, and Benin, a trio of kingdoms located within present-day southern Nigeria, shared aspects of courtly culture including titles, ceremonial paraphernalia, and art forms. These commonalities are especially interesting and noteworthy given the ethnic disparities that existed among these distinct polities. While the states of Owo and Ijebu were composed primarily of Yoruba peoples, the core populations of the Benin kingdom were ethnically Edo
In their respective oral traditions, Ijebu, Owo, and Benin all trace their origins to the ancient ILE IFE
, the cradle of Yoruba culture, and claim that their founders were the sons of the Yoruba deity Odudua, who was the first ruler of that city. Especially in Owo and Benin, the early art-historical and archaeological records reinforce these strong affiliations with Ife culture. Benin’s royal histories relate that the court’s brass casters learned their art from an Ife master named Iguegha, who had been sent from Ife around 1400 at the request of Benin’s
oba Oguola. Indeed, the earliest dated cast brass memorial heads from Benin ( ) replicate the refined naturalism of Ife sculpture; early Owo terracotta sculpture appears to have been heavily influenced by the arts of Ife.

Each kingdom’s historical ties to Ife contributed to its sense of identity, and doubtless encouraged and justified their appropriation of certain aspects of Ife’s political and religious practices. It was ultimately their ongoing relationships with one another, however, that produced broad similarities in their art forms and courtly structures. The outward-looking tendencies of these states were manifested in broad-based trade, diplomacy, and warfare. Ijebu’s lagoon ports and well-established trade routes to the lower Niger Delta, as well as overland routes via the Ondo and Owo Yoruba states, ensured economic and cultural interchange with Benin. Owo, whose territories abutted those of Benin, also engaged in extensive trade with this state. Benin itself was an expansive state whose superior military permitted it to dominate territories well beyond its heartland.
The exact nature of the political and military engagements among these states is unclear; oral claims collected from the courts of Owo, Ijebu, and Benin provide divergent commentaries on this subject. While Benin claims to have placed Ijebu under its dominion during the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, Ijebu’s own traditions dispute this. By the seventeenth century, Benin controlled the coast from the southern Niger Delta to at least the eastern edge of Ijebu’s territory, but it is unclear what political influence the Edo court had upon the Ijebu heartland in the interior. Owo, Benin’s neighbor to the northwest, appears to have intermittently found itself under the suzerainty of the obas . Given the Edo origins of many aspects of Owo’s courtly culture, it is clear that the diplomatic relationship between the two kingdoms was intimate, and not entirely equitable: royal Edo histories speak of Osogboye, the sixteenth-century ruler of Owo who visited the Benin court to adopt highly prestigious forms of Edo courtly culture. Not surprisingly, this version of events is contested by Owo historians, who assert that Osogboye traveled to Benin to learn military techniques that would better protect his kingdom from Edo aggression. Altogether, these conflicting historical perspectives suggest that the similarities which exist between the Yoruba states and their Edo counterpart can be attributed to a combination of factors: the forcible influence of Benin, the assertion of common origins at Ife, and the desire of less powerful kingdoms to strengthen themselves and enrich their status by incorporating the traditions of their adversary.


Department of Art History and Archaeology
COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY

Even part of this information given by BINI KINGDOM clearly showed that the Portuguese didn't meet Yoruba Kingdom of IJEBU nor did they acknowledge the ILAJES AND ITSEKIRIS but based their opinion on the Oral information from OBA BINI'S PALACE, WHO WERE IN FACT IN CONTROL OF THE EASTERN PART OF BIGHT OF BINI, ONE KINGDOM AND LIES ARE LIKE PMB AND CHANGE

O0ni:
Sir, you were making a lot of sense until you got to the parts emboldened, where you started name dropping Yoruba towns.

For the record, Bini was never an empire but a kingdom.



Calling Bini an empire puts it in the league of the emboldened empires and rubbishes their history.

The traces of Bini in Owo and Ekiti was proportional exchange between these towns and Bini. These towns gave theirs to Bini and Bini gave their in return - for example, Owo gave Bini ivories and Bini gave its Eben sword and other minute stuff. The traces of Bini found in these kingdoms and that of the kingdoms found in Bini was more of proximity impact than anything else. There's no need to blow trumpets of Bini's military that is no more than Aba women Riots .

As for Lagos, Bini influence died after Gabarro. Yoruba people should be thanked for retaining some aesthetic Binis stuff as dynasty occupying the throne was started by Ilesa man and the king making process is more Yoruba and very less Bini; go figure.

You can blow the trumpets of Bini less abeg, Bini was not that serious and came late to the scheme of things in Empire building and recognized Empire in Africa.


According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire



Omo make una see Bini empire at its MAXIMUM EXTENT (POWER) at the emboldened. Ondo - the few akoko parts & isolated islands; Lagos - the Lagos island & Obalende; Ibo land - few towns in Delta and Anambra area

Compared to the Roman, Byzantine, British, French and Oyo empires this is complete rubbish

This Bini people sure now how to 'reach'. No wonder serious scholars on the international scene use Kingdom for Benin and not an empire.

LET THEM KEEP MAKING MOCKERY OF THEIR KINGDOM. THE PRINCE OF BINI THAT NEVER RETURNED WHEN HE WENT ON ESPIONAGE ALONG IDANRE AXIS WHEN IDANRE WAS ATTACKED. THE FIRST CONTACT WAS WHEN ONE OWO PRINCE VISITED BINI AND AS A DESCENDANTS OF ODUA, HE IS SEEN AS A COUSINS AND ALL THAT. IN THE ANCIENT TIMES, THE IDENTITY OF A PRINCE IS BY THE BEADS HE WORE, SLAVES ESCORT AND ORIKI AND SOME PEOPLE WHO AREN'T VAST IN HISTORY WILL COME ON A FORUM WITHOUT EVEN DOING PROPER VERIFICATION BEFORE MAKING SEVERAL BLUNDERS AND DISTORTING HISTORY. THANK GOD ODUA HAD ORIKI LIKE WISE HIS CHILDREN.... WHAT IS THEIR STORY? PEOPLE WHO ARE RELATED TO IDAH PEOPLE ARE NOW CHURNING OUT TRASH BECAUSE WE TRY TO OPEN THEIR EYES TO DEVELOPMENT... 40th OBA and 51st OONI... CLEAR AS CRYSTAL