Politics › Re: Time To Call Out Osinbajo By Yinka Odumakin by omoharry(op): 11:46am On Feb 06, 2018 |
WorldRichest: Yinka Odumakin has gone mad once again. After collecting millions of naira from Goatluck Jonascam and not able to deliver more than his one vote, this nonentity thinks everyone is as foolish as Biafran pigs and idiots. Better shout up your dirty mouth before god of thunder strike you dead. Leave the messenger alone and follow the message Fulani man |
Politics › Re: Buhari To Complete The North's Turn In The Presidency In 2023 by omoharry(f): 11:20am On Feb 06, 2018 |
Pvibe007: Keep dreaming. Igbo will never rule Nigeria. The best they can get is the Senate president. We shall never allow any Igbo man rule. Yoruba, Hausa and other tribes are better for the positions. Meanwhile PMB will be voted out in 2019, Nigeria isn't a plate of rice that's is been shared amongst sections and family Igbo can rule Nigeria as long as he is competent to and eligible to..no wonder we keep putting in the wrong people because we are blinded by our terrible ethnic/religious sentiment..Nigeria belongs to every one and the Igbo are slave to no one but indigenous people that makes up this entity called Nigeria, they are citizen of Nigeria and part of the greater south....they say make una let them go..you guys refuse..now you dey open your dirty mouth dey talk rubbish.I am from the Niger Delta.so live with it. |
Politics › Re: "Buhari Is Evil" - By Aroms Aigbehi by omoharry(f): 10:56am On Feb 06, 2018 |
Dee60: I am not a supporter of PMB but Nigerans should please stop insults and abuses. It could worsen the situation, apart from other reasons.
You see a solider wielding AK47 and you walk near to slap him! Are you not looking for trouble?
Let PMB do his one term and go home.
No need for abuses. then what is the alternative way to voice out their grievance..no worry make the Fulani headsmen reach where you family dey then make we see weather na the same mouth you go use tell tell us not to insult the president do would rather look the other way when these atrocities are being carried out....the selfishness of the black man is amazing..because the thing nor reach your side you feel people should rather bury their head in the sand and use nice words to show their grievances..I wonder....except you one of them and saying this just to defend evil kinsmen |
Politics › Re: "Buhari Is Evil" - By Aroms Aigbehi by omoharry(f): 10:48am On Feb 06, 2018 |
Odingo1: You people think that you can remove Buhari by all this media war, come 2019 you guys will know the difference between core Muslim north and lily livered south. Time will tell. The Election result is ready. Are you a robot? please if you have nothing good to say then it better not to say anything at all..you are just intentionally trying to annoy people here.pack for corner abeg. |
Family › Re: Dad’s Incredible Reaction To News 14-year-old Son Is Not His by omoharry(f): 10:35am On Feb 06, 2018 |
timwudz: Women are the most wicked creature God ever created. They can turn morning to night with their deceits but my guys, guess what? They don't have brain..
Quote me at your own risk do you even know if you are the son of your father? If all everyone both old and young should do a DNA to determine their paternity..you will be shocked at the result.You mother is also a woman..so shill.. |
Politics › Time To Call Out Osinbajo By Yinka Odumakin by omoharry(op): 9:57am On Feb 06, 2018 |
DEAR Mr. Vice President,
I recall then Lagos state Governor, Mr. Babatunde Fasola, a silk like you hailed your nomination as Vice Presidential candidate in 2014 as a good omen for “the rule of law, federalism and constitutionalism in Nigeria”. He based his optimism on your antecedents especially for being “the brain behind the transformation of the Lagos State judiciary.”
Vice President Yemi Osinbajo He said further while addressing a gathering of judges, lawyers, traditional rulers and religious leaders that: “Professor Osinbajo has made tremendous contribution in the state’s judiciary. He has started his own journey as well because the vision of building an efficient and incorruptible judiciary started under his watch as the Attorney General of Lagos State. So, I wish my brother and friend, Professor Yemi Osinbajo the very best in the journey.”
The then Attorney General of the state and now one of your aides, Mr. Ade Ipaye speaking after Fashola was more effusive as he said you were “by far the most impactful contributor to improvements seen in the Nigerian Justice sector since the end of military rule in 1999.
During his tenure, the idea of bringing justice to the people became entrenched, particularly with the establishment of an Office of the Public Defender and a Citizens Mediation Centre.
Both agencies have since benefited millions of Nigerians directly or indirectly by way of free legal services, free representation in court and free mediation services,” He further noted that as Commissioner for Justice, you ensured strict adherence to the rule of law while in the service of the Lagos State government, saying that: “As an advocate, Prof. Osinbajo participated actively in all important cases during his tenur, especially the constitutional cases in the Supreme Court, showing himself as an astute lawyer and a passionate defender of federalism and Constitutionalism”.
You raised the hope that you would live up to this rating while receiving the leadership of the National Union of Road Transport Workers Union, NURTW in your office in July 2015 and you said that ensuring no one is above the law is the rule in any developed country. You were unequivocal when you declared : “We insist that the rule of law be maintained, that no one is above the law. It is the first rule. The President has committed himself to this.
He said it yesterday again in the U.S that nobody is above the law”. Those words of yours must haunt you today as it would appear that the pull of office has set you against your self and core beliefs. Our fathers from the depth of their wisdom must have had this situation in mind when they said that a sheep that keeps the company of dogs would have excreta for lunch. You started by demolishing your federalist credential by opposing the restructuring concept.
You shattered your apostle of constitutionalism rating with your role in the Magu Saga when you turned the constitution upside down for expediency. You have now completed the cycle by dancing on the rule of law.
As I watched you looking apparently forlorn as prayer points were being raised for Nigeria in crises at the February Holy Ghost Service at the Redeemed Christian Church of God, I remember that Lady Evangelist of the church who was hacked to death under your nose in Abuja and you could not find just a word to condemn the killing how much more ensure the killers were brought to book.
As the killings intensify in the land, we have yet to hear you speak clearly on the side of law enforcement. Rather, we hear empty platitudes like the one you made on politicisation of killings during an interdenominational service in Abuja on January 7,2018:
“Again, we have seen some today who want to benefit politically. The killing of women and children in Adamawa, Benue, Jos and several other places, stoking the embers of ethnicity and religion.
“By their hate speeches, they want to fix the criminal acts of a few individuals on the whole tribe and a whole people and will want to create religious crisis if we allow. “Our obligation is to stop them from playing dangerous politics that could threaten our unity and stability, just as we continue to enforce the peace in the troubled area.”
Harsh words against killers? None! As if for complete disintegration, you now head a diversionary and contemptuous shadow-chasing committee instead of enforcing the laws against ‘sacred cows’ who are killing fellow citizens under the guise of the right of their cows to graze on any space in Nigeria.
Your panel has now set up a sub-committee to go and appease the Meyitti Allah who have owned up to the killings and threatening more deaths if the anti-open grazing law is not repealed. It seems you now have good company in the Defense Minister and the Inspector General of Police who have now become what Governor Ortom rightly describe as “spokesperson for killer herdsmen”.
Sadly ,your pedigree is being assaulted by this new role trusted upon you. It is grieving how otherwise solid men allow temporary power to destroy their future because they pay little heed to the fact that there is life after office. What will you teach in a Criminal Law class tomorrow?
That when crimes are committed,appeasement takes the place of punishment if the culprits belong to special interest ?Are you going to tear the page that says “thou shall not kill” from your Bible?What will you tell your Sunday School students on the sanctity of human life?
My dear Vice President, you come from a land that has produced men who would not allow the perks of office to dull their conscience and the values they hold dear.
The grandfather of your wife in a moving tribute to the late Ooni of Ife,Oba Adesoji Aderemi recalled his gallantry and the Alake during his tenure thus : He was a frontline nationalist. If he had not been Oba, he would, in my judgement, have occupied a position of leadership in the affairs of the country as from the late thirties such as some of us have occupied since the early fifties.
The progress of Nigeria towards independence was greatly accelerated by the motion for self-government in 1956 filed by Tony Enahoro in 1953 at the instance of the Action Group of Nigeria. Without the mighty backing of the late Ooni and the late Alake, the motion would not have even reached the Order Paper. Late Sir John Macpherson had left no stone unturned in trying to get Oba Aderemi and Oba Ademola to dissuade us from pursuing the motion. In the alternative, he had urged them to mobilise all Western Region Obas and Chiefs to oppose the move. But the late Ooni and the late Alake immovably stood their ground.
The emancipation of their country was of greater concern to them than any material thing or official honour that could be gained, or any inconvenience that could befall them. When the motion for Independence was killed in the House of Representatives by the NPC’s dilatory tactics, the Action Group and NCNC members walked out of the House. Oba Aderemi and Oba Ademola also walked out with us.
Immediately after the walkout, the Ooni proceeded to the Government House to tender his resignation from the Council of Ministers. And thereafter, throughout the contest unto final victory, the late Oba Aderemi did not waver even for a fleeting moment.
When the big test came that is, when Sir John (Macpherson) tried to divide our ranks by nominating the late Ooni to the Council of Ministers to the exclusion of Bode Thomas and others, the late Oba Aderemi voted against himself with the same determination and defiance as all of us in the Joint Session of the Houses of Chiefs and Assembly did. In the end, thanks to his steadfastness, we had our way.” Awolowo himself said NO whenever it was necessary. Admiral Akin Aduwo sacrificed his office instead of surrendering University of Ife to the Federal Goverment. Gen. Alani Akinrinade resigned honourably when he was promoted into irrelevance as Chief of Defence Staff under Shagari. Only men of straw say “my hands are tied”.
A real man should know what is beneath him.If we have reached a point where killers are above the laws of Nigeria, a man who made clear commitment to the rule of law like you should not be an accessory after crime by holding talks with those who should be sweating before the law. It is beneath! https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/02/time-call-osinbajo/
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Politics › Re: Killings: Presidency Laments Hate Speech, Demands Respect For Buhari by omoharry(f): 2:40pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
12submarine: I don't support Buhari’s administration, but what do you mean by reasonable comment? The comments on the front page which you skipped are the reasonable comments right? So comments like "Buhari is a murderer, Buhari is a bastard, Buhari is this, Buhari is that" are reasonable, by your standard? Shaking my big head. if he is not a murderer ( by his body language to allow this atrocity continue)then what name would you have us call him?..someone that was very swift in sending operation Python dance to the south east and crocodile smile to the south south over protest that did not involve loss of live but is terribly dragging his feet to even open his mouth to condemn his beloved killer brothers/headmen that are all over the country killing and maiming at will...still he refuse to see them as terrorist but he is ready to ask the south and middle belt to accommodate the killers, dialogue with them and carve out of our land to create a colony for them..what kind of madness is that?..and you stand there on the fence defending your killer kinsmen.Hate speech indeed as if when the last administration was in power APC did not use hate speech and insult through out till they came into power..so the thing dey pain abi?..office of the president indeed..when he cannot even carry out his most basic responsibility of his protecting the citizens and their properties and you stand there to tell us to do hide our head in the sand and pretend people are not being killed by this marauding beast on a daily basis. Abeg pack well..Nigerians are angry. |
Politics › Re: Buhari’ Re-Election In 2019 The Shortest Way To Igbo Presidency - Boss Mustapha by omoharry(f): 9:28am On Jan 29, 2018 |
DankemzI: SESS its time to keep our differences aside and align with a candidate that has the interests of our regions at heart! Remember the region that betrayed GeJ & be wary of their manipulative hand of friendship No no no..I am from the south south but i will not buy into your idea..I will not jeopardize my future and that of my unborn children for cheer vengeance and stupidity,,this is not a child play anymore..open your eyes and know whom you are dining with.I support a united South that is what matters right now and nothing more. |
Politics › Re: Buhari’ Re-Election In 2019 The Shortest Way To Igbo Presidency - Boss Mustapha by omoharry(f): 9:11am On Jan 29, 2018 |
sarrki: http://sunnewsonline.com/buharill-run-in-2019-says-sgf-boss-mustapha/ Divide and Rule tactics has always been the weapon of the North against the South and the stupid south, out of their greed and selfishness will fall for it and the whole region will fall back to square zero...the East should not buy into this rubbish..let us stand united and speak with one voice for Nigeria to be restructured.. |
Politics › Re: What Is The Real Problem Between The East And The West. by omoharry(f): 4:54pm On Jan 25, 2018 |
Masterclass32: My own is: the hand shake across the Niger was a waste of time. Until we shake hands with our God and reconcile with Him, whether we shake hands across the Niger, or behind the Niger or in the Niger itself, wouldn't make much difference. Dont take to heart the negative comment form this people here against one another in the south..if only you could see beyond the screen you will dsicover that majority of them are still in secondary schools or writing JAMB or WAEC..so many children with shallow way of thinking lucking around nairaland..this place used to be a platform for great minds but has been reduced to a play zone..the matured members barely comment anymore,..you will see them in other platform just as investment and business sections.The hand shake across the NIGER has positive impact..the tension between the east and the west has been limited..unlike before.its a good thing. |
Politics › Re: Agbakoba, Utomi, Duke, Falana, Others To Lead NIM Steering Committee by omoharry(f): 4:20pm On Jan 25, 2018 |
Nice one..so how do they intend to carry Nigerians along. |
Politics › Re: Agbakoba, Utomi, Duke, Falana, Others To Lead NIM Steering Committee by omoharry(f): 4:18pm On Jan 25, 2018 |
ChidiAlaigbo: Well said......the same old thieves already infiltrating the list.
I spot Pat Utomi again, the same bold faced thief that robbed bank PHB where I lost N10m cash money.
No go better for the x-eyed albino.
They are already too many sef, "too many hands spoils the broth" waooo! pat Utomi? i taught his hands are clean..na waooo!!! anyway..i like the initiative sha!..at least if they can provide a third party, it will give us a wider and better options to pick from aside from APC/PDP the devils. |
Politics › Re: Inside Alex Ekwueme's House As Uche Secondus Pays Condolence Visit To Family by omoharry(f): 3:35pm On Jan 25, 2018 |
kolawoleibukun: Truth be told, the man lived his life and died but he is not worthy to be on a front page. These people are a waste of the effort of our colonial masters. They benefitted from the crème of the established programmes established by the system that the British gave us and yet they got to the pinnacle of (local) success and forgot about the system that bred them. What would posterity remember him by? These men made no contributions to us. I have been hearing this man's name for ages yet I do not know what he has done for real.
There is nothing like dignity for a man. Speaking out for what you believe in and condemning evil without spitting out saliva. I still respect the likes of Dora Akunyili and Fela Kuti. Who came out against a crooked and evil system. All these men just enriched themselves and their families. What stopped this man from building a world-class hospital in his own village? He died like frozen chicken in London. These people do not know how irritating it is to dump an old weakened cadaver in an airplane.
We were taught that our ancestors moved to the village when they age and when death calls. But these old men are moving to London when they know that it is useless in the end.
Alex Ekwueme was trained in the US on scholarship. Where really are the men in Nigeria? with such power and influence we would expect these men to influence the youths positively. Ekwueme's brother is a traditional ruler in Anambra state. How? Connection.
Look at his house? See fluorescent tube without cover. Old AC with wiring swinging left to right. Misplaced priority is a common problem for wealthy men in Nigeria. They have no taste for real. Look at all those iddiots going to visit. Who will visit the families of the people murdered by Fulani hersdmen. na Only rich man dem day pay condolence visit? uzeless people. you are such a sad soul..not even a nice words for the dead..you..how have you impacted your surrounding and your community..in your won little way?..you abused this man that he did not do anything for your people while in office..as if he was voted in only the people of your community..until we stop this entitlement syndrome Nigeria will never move forward..here we are insulting Buhari for his nepotistic and ethnic favoritism tendencies because that is what his people must have told him to do and look the negative impact it has in the country. |
Politics › Re: Pic: Adopt This Method Instead Of Cattle Colony- Fayose by omoharry(f): 3:24pm On Jan 25, 2018 |
fiizznation: Funny how some people think they can change the pastoral way of life of the average herdsman. The fulani man wont allow any forces to suppress and oppress him and his way of life.
Cattle colonies as sugested by some people is the only solution that might bring a lasting peace to the crisis between the "herdsmen" and whoever they normally have clashes with(that's if what is happening today is even about the fulani man's cows).
Btw, I can See how Nigeria media houses have lunched some sort of WAR against the fulani tribe and our way of life, but am not bothered because i know they will never succeed.
if they cannot accept any other alternative means of rearing their cattle aside slaughtering people and taking their land for free then they should rear their cattle in their regions and not bother people with their archaic way of life.Can any tribe do this nonsense in the north?..Bunch of troublesome lots.they motive is not the cattle they are rearing land but conquest, they are trying to spread as wide as possible for their jihadist gender..evil ethnic group who should have been left isolated in the desert and be banished from modern society. |
Politics › Re: Why Buhari Is Likely To Win In 2019 By Yakubu Jimoh by omoharry(f): 3:14pm On Jan 25, 2018 |
its only the southwest and middle belt that they are banking on for them to win ifor 2019 for they know the south east and south south is no go arear..only our brothers in the southwest and middle belt will determine if they still wish to continue with this Buhari administration or not.No one will force them..but we all know that we shall all suffer the same consequences of hunger and hardship and slaughter except thier leaders.. |
Politics › Re: It Is Insanity For Anybody To Wish Buhari To Continue Beyond 2019 - Igbo Youths by omoharry(f): 3:08pm On Jan 25, 2018 |
mubeela: Igbos chucking mouth in somtin dat doesn't consigns dem (politics) you have started ooo..they have been pulse and sanity against tribal name calling ..now you are started the race again.the best you can do is to vote for who ever you wish and stop the e-championship on nairaland. una nor get power against Fulani people but would rather waste your time and energy on people that are not a danger to you.. |
Politics › Re: It Is Insanity For Anybody To Wish Buhari To Continue Beyond 2019 - Igbo Youths by omoharry(f): 2:57pm On Jan 25, 2018 |
mudiana: so God you brought PMB to teach us a lesson, we don learn. pls take him away, we are hurting.  |
Crime › Re: Irigwe Militia Attacks Fulani Herdsmen In Plateau, Kill Them & Cows. Graphic by omoharry(f): 2:51pm On Jan 25, 2018 |
why dem kon kill the cows..they would have allowed them to wonder away..the innocent animals did no wrong.As for the Fulanis Herdsmen ..my heart has been hardened toward their case because they have no regard for human life..are they expecting any sympathy from southern Nigerians? i doubt it.this media cry is for their brothers to take note and prepare for revenge,,this is what they are known for.other peoples lives dont matter but theirs is sacred..wicked souls that should have been left alone in their own country all by themselves. |
Politics › Re: Official Nairaland Support Thread For Donald Duke 2019 by omoharry(f): 11:38am On Jan 24, 2018 |
Odingo1: In fair play, Igbo man from SE should be the next president after the north, SW,North, SS has been there,let Igbos do also. There are good Igbo men with good records e.g Charles Soludo, Peter Obi, Chidoka, Ekwerremadu etc we are tired of choosing leaders by ethnicity..it does not pay us at all when they get there it will not change anything even from you street where you leave to your region..check all the Igbos',Yorubas' and Hausas' that has held great position in recent times with little or no impact to their ethnic people and region..please take yourself from this fraud called election by ethnicity..it only favours the politicians and their families while you will be left in the rain..pls open your eyes.i thought this Buhari's regime would have taught us all a lesson for self reflection.what we should be focusing now on is someone with a good pedigree and without any corruption cases hanging on his head..I am not from Calabar but Donald Duke has my vote for now except someone that is better than him comes along. |
Computers › Re: Difference Between Hibernate And Sleep On A Computer by omoharry(f): 3:20pm On Jan 23, 2018 |
my laptop only has Restart, Sleep and Shown down..not hibernation |
Politics › Re: Tinubu: 8 Things Buhari's Government Must Do For Nigerians. See List... by omoharry(f): 11:34am On Jan 19, 2018 |
mema900: I like the way we all unite when the issue of buhari is brought up. It shows we are all feeling the heat. Lets change this man by 2019. Its no longer an issue of North or South, Muslim or Christian. Its about Nigeria. Its about having a good life. Its about we the poor masses.
Please get your PVC before 2019 lets build this country together.
I stand with Donald Duke; If he can build Calabar, He can build Nigeria I also stand with Donald Duke but can he win the north over? they wont even allow him scale through the primaries without using their manipulative skills to sideline him..i am still yet to see any atom of hope in this country. |
Politics › Re: Donald Duke Indicates Interest To Run For President In 2019 by omoharry(f): 11:58am On Jan 16, 2018 |
If Donald Duke should contest then i will dust my voters card and vote for him..he is the only sane person that is in the picture for now. |
Events › Re: Event Planners, Pls Update Your Contacts. by omoharry(f): 10:25am On Jan 12, 2018 |
any event planner in Benin republic? the person should contact me as soon as possible.joyce.harry@yahoo.com,08178813104. |
Romance › Re: 6 Major Reasons To Date A Yoruba Man by omoharry(f): 10:07am On Jan 12, 2018 |
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Romance › Re: 6 Major Reasons To Date A Yoruba Man by omoharry(f): 5:01pm On Jan 11, 2018 |
THEY ARE OK BUT THEY HARDLY STICK TO ONE PARTNER AFTER MARRIAGE.THEY DONT HAVE RESPECT FOR THE INSTITUTION OF MARRIAGE ..CHEATING IS A NORMAL THING TO THEM AND THEY EXPECT THEIR PARTNERS TO BE LEAST CONCERN AS LONG AS THEY ARE CARED FOR...HMMM!! YORUBA MEN AND CHEATING ARE LIKE 5&6 |
Politics › Re: Hand Shake Across The Niger In Enugu: FFK, Ubah, Mimiko, Olu Falae Spotted by omoharry(f): 4:52pm On Jan 11, 2018 |
goaldynman: I would rather have a handshake with a snake than have a handshake with chameleonic backstabbing Afonjas!! Mtcheeeeew!! No your right words would have been that you would rather have a handshake with an Hausa/Fulani than with a Yoruba man...then.i wish you luck in which ever allies you wish to align with to get out of this situation you find yourself in Nigeria. pls grow up. this is 2017 we are tired of fighting the battles of our fathers they are dead and ashes now . We need to to move forward ..so how do you intend to do that without allies..? alone? wish you luck..AFONJAf NI! AFONJA KO! |
Politics › Re: Hand Shake Across The Niger In Enugu: FFK, Ubah, Mimiko, Olu Falae Spotted by omoharry(f): 4:46pm On Jan 11, 2018 |
alade112:
They called this unity gathering? What I'm seeing here is nothing but oppositions summit.. This summit is a joke.. The Southerners aren't ready for unity. I dnt even pray for it. We don't trust the Easterners . would you rather align with the Hausa/Fulanis' that would one day slit your throat in your sleep? pointless statement is all we get from southern youth, then tomorrow you will still continue to complain about this same Hausa/Fulanis' ...everything to you is APC/PDP. |
Crime › Re: Man Strangles His Wife To Death In Badagry, Buries Her Beside A Well (Graphic) by omoharry(f): 3:32pm On Jan 09, 2018 |
Yian1: I don't think I've read about any good thing that ever happened in badagry before, or am I wrong? It could be becos the land is cursed as a result of the slave trade that occured there. |
Family › Re: I Was Punished, Ostracized For 20 Years For Marrying A White Lady: Aroms Aigbehi by omoharry(f): 4:56pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
lazygal: Black pple ignored you for marrying white?babe abeg no be true.. Then yes but now now nop,there was never a mention of marriage here. It's just an over view of how Nigerians like to distance themselves from other Nigerians when abroad.. |
Health › Re: The Surgeons: Nigerian Father And Daughter Perform Surgery On Their Patient by omoharry(f): 8:51am On Nov 23, 2017 |
Mbediogu: Get her to call me when she's put in atleast 30years after her part two fellowship. Then we can talk about spectacle colostomy and hemi-colectomies. Appendicectomies? Cheers anyway. Doctors are trying ooo..with all this long medical terminologies that are even difficult to pronounce but you see see them rapping it like sey na simple english..kudos to all the doctors in the house, it quite unfortunate that Nigeria does not appreciate you guys.Especially the good hearted doctors because some are just plain evil |
Romance › Re: When A Girl Is Dating A Guy Who Is Not Ready For Marriage by omoharry(f): 11:55am On Nov 22, 2017 |
torqque7: And u wander why someone wasted 6years of ur life Abi?with the kind foul mouth way u get,I pity u,cursing peoples mothers up and down and looking for a horses dick to fvck u,good luck..if u don't turn a new leaf I can assure u no man will look ur way or take u seriously..u sound very RAZZ ouch!! that was harsh.  |
Romance › Re: When A Girl Is Dating A Guy Who Is Not Ready For Marriage by omoharry(f): 11:47am On Nov 22, 2017 |
[quote author=Obynolee post=40932428]As if the long and fat dick is better..alot of women would run away from such guy..so it is not that
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