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nutarious:
Actually, Salvation101, I dont expect you to go down that line, if it were real life, you could have be consistent with the Stalking Complain. But online stalking ain't mean anything to me because your identity is secure.


I get it now, JW is a group or Organisation with a Believe System and Mind Set, this would mean they are different from other believers, its eye opening to be on this thread.

In a Pentecostal setting, if you wish you could change church from one denomination to another still be able to practise your Faith, if Denomination A is not aligning with what you believe or you saw error you could look for a proper One by switching. You could also be in two different churches like myself or might not even join one and still be Close to your God.

But, for the First time am opportune to see what JW as an Organisation is, Salvation101 spoke comparatively, Analysing Scripture for Scripture and we are all getting well before other members of the Group or Organization started Attacking her, it was slow and steady and it was continuous. Gradually the whole good start went into Mud and later many Member were coming out to play the Victim card.


I waited and waited wishing someone will clear my doubt, Nobody did. No member scolded the other member for insult. I notice that Kola started the Dirty Talk, after the insults have already been introduced, then Kola started that talk that got Salvation101 to where she is, I Still Waited, Nobody, I mean Nobody scolded him, for me that's important. Very important.


I concluded that this your Faith or Believe System is about Winning especially Scripturally.

This Faith is not based on been a better person, something normal Education in Schools can teach. It's about a Group and how they must Uphold the Norms, its embarrassing that this is not really based on God nor Righteousness but based on a School of Thought and how well they were discipled to defend their stand.

I won't use this against Other JW that I meet outside, I will hope again that they clear this doubt of mine, I hope they can.

But as for most of you following earlier till Now I Say Shame on You especially if there are Females among you, your Faith is unbelievably hypocritical. Nothing to gain from the Thread absolutely Gabbage. Next time don't just do this, nairaland is read all over the Whole World and you come here to showcase the worst form of embarrassing character for People professing Faith, you are not different from Muslims.

My dear Salvation101, I don't support you on the Vulgar words, that ain't you. You are better than that, you err in that part and I ask you, if you take your Birth and a mentally ill patient carry your Towels , will you run after him. Nope. We discussed this at Office with my Collegues who has joined me in Following this on my PC. I can say, Atheist are well behaved than Members of JW on this Forum. But I believe maybe this won't define JW, I will wait till I meet others to reach my conclusion.

I hate Men who has no respect for Motherhood.

Nutarious: It's human nature for us to disagree or defend our beliefs but the insults & personal attacks went too far ,to be frank. Indeed, it's an obvious reflection of the extent that each person on this thread has yielded to God's word to reform & mold them to be a better person & God fearing servant of the true God. This is not about "JW belief system & mindset " to intimidate or attack anyone with contrary opinions or beliefs. Its unacceptable to verbally. abuse or trade insults with others who have contrary beliefs. When people come online to malign Jehovah's name & share libelous , slanderous content,JW's resort to the Bible to defend what God's word says its true,not minding if its unpopular to do so.
For instance, in many bible translations ,John 1:1 reads " ...a god was the word". .But it is unpopular to say it like that. Churchgoers & their pastors don't want it. The Greek manuscript transliteration of John1:1 to English reads: "In beginning was the word, and the word was with the god, and god was the word" . But proponents of trinity came on NL to lie that JW "made Jesus a false god" because JW strictly stuck to what the Greek manuscript says: "a god was the word". Acts28:6 & John1:1 has the same grammatical construction. But Trinitarians changed "god" to "God" in John 1:1 but left Acts28:6 intact. Why should U expect JW to believe in the trinity that is clearly a false teaching? JW's are unrelenting when it comes to defending what God's word says. However, I regret that this thread degenerated to a level of vulgarity that is clearly unacceptable. Shalom

Here comes another SERIAL LIAR..

Cock & bull fairytale. Where did God torture Adam or Sodom & Gomorrah for their sins? Quantinu to deceive yourself. Jude1:7

Hairyrapunzel:
ATTENTION!!! THIS ONE IS IN A CULT.

SERIAL LIAR spotted ! Hallelujah! !!!!!!!!!!

Hairyrapunzel:
I was disfellowshipped because I said the criminals should be reported to the police first. While your elders said the governing body said no so I was disfellowshipped

Hairyrapunzel, times with out number, (sotayy U dey lie say Jesus followers were not organized despite all the scriptural proofs),your intent to malign Jehovah's name have been exposed on NL.. Indeed, your lies against JW would make the devil himself green with envy. U said U were disfellowshipped ( who knows? ) but the reasons U adduced for the " red card" na BIG LIE! SERIAL LIAR ,master of distorting facts with fiction. Your claim that JW covered up "the criminals" is ABSOLUTELY FALSE..

In the original Greek manuscript transliterated to English, John 1:1 reads : "In beginning was the word, and the word was with the god ,and god was the word" .
(Note:" the word" means reason, saying.
"with" means toward, facing).
Sahidic Coptic to English reads " In the beginning existed the word and the word existed with the god and a god was the word"
Source: John 1:1 in wikipedia
To be candid, this scripture doesn't actually offers proof of the trinity
. In the Greek manuscript, "god" is in small letter. Me & U know say in English language "god" in small letter & "God" in big letter do not have the same meaning.
Acts 28:6 proves that it is fraudulent to change small letter "god" for big letter "God" in John1:1 because both of these verses have the same grammatical construction.
Besides ,John 1:1 says " ..the word was with the god",that is two persons,not one. Worthy of note, the verse never said " ... the god was the word".
The truth is "...a god was the word".
. The trinity was conceptualized in 451AD. Therefore,its obvious that Jesus Christ & his first century followers neither taught or believed in it. Trinity is a man made fallacy.

Ken4Christ:
JW are not Christians. Their very name betrays the commandment of Christ. We are suppose to witness for Jesus and not Jehovah. Jehovah is not visible. So, how can you witness for someone you haven't seen.

But Jesus was seen, from his birth to his death and resurrection. And anyone who acknowledges He Jesus acknowledges the Father that sent him.

Another SERIAL LIAR spotted. Did Jesus send himself to the earth? Whose work & whose will did Jesus do while on earth? (mark1:14,15 matt24:14. John4:34. John 3:16) If U are not doing the assignment given to Jesus by the One who sent Jesus U are just wasting your time.

Hairyrapunzel:
Where did they mention governing body in the Bible? Where did they say the early Christias were organized?
Dispute and disagreement every where and you say they are organized or were an organization?

Acts 2:44 "All the believers were together & had everything in common". Acts15:22 "Then the apostles & elders, with the whole Church, decided to choose some of their own men & send them to Antioch with Paul & Barnabas. They choose Judas ( called Barsabas)& Silas ,two men who were leaders among the brothers". SERIAL LIAR, What did U exchange your brain for ? Pls Stop your foolish rants.

Fyi0:
And bless you too. I will earnestly path for you.

fyi0: Let me address Q25.. indeed NWT is very correct. Jesus is a god. The original Greek manuscript proves it. John1:1 reads: "in beginning was the word, & the word was with ('with' means toward or facing) the god & god was the word". Trinitarian s fraudulently changed small letter "god" to big letter "God" to alter the meaning of the verse. Acts28:6 & John 1:1 have the same grammatical construction. Yet,they altered John 1:1 & left Acts 28:6 intact. Very fraudulent.
Q17: The Bible agrees with itself. In ur Bible, John chapter 1 says "in the beginning" but in the Greek manuscript reads "in beginning". U can see that insertion of "the" , in the beginning. Hebrew1:2 says "God has spoken to us by His son through whom he made the universe". Collosians 1:15, 1Cor11:3 & 15:24,27 clarified that Jesus is under the authority of God Almighty, his Father. NWT is correct.

Hairyrapunzel:
They don't report to police and they don't even recommend it. They don't want to bring reproach on Jehovah's name so they hide the pedophilles and rapists.

They care about company name rather than child safety. *Tufiakwa
Hiding criminals is their watchword

@hairyrapunzel: The online post U have been salivating about on NL also says "Any suggestion that Jehovah's Witnesses covered up child abuse was ABSOLUTELY FALSE". Besides, "victims & parents had the absolute right to report to the governmental authorities & that was not contingent on the number of witnesses".
Indeed, U just dey expose who U are (SERIAL LIAR) & what U stand for (Character assassination). There is further proof that U are very dishonest & your posts lack objectivity & merit.
" What if a baptised adult Christian sexually molest a child?.... there maybe consequences that he can not avoid. Depending on the laws of the land where he lives, the molester may well have to serve a prison term or face sanctions from the State. The congregation of Jehovah's witnesses will NOT PROTECT HIM from this.... A child molester is subject to severe congregational discipline & restrictions". Source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wo/d/r1/Ip-e/1997003 .
hairyrapunzel, pls mend your ways.
Who cares about the lies,Concorted tales & outright falsehood that a SERIAL LIAR copy & paste on NL. ! Since u began ur obnoxious campaign of falsehood & character assassination on NL,Jehovah's people keep waxing strong & growing astronomically. U have only succeeded to create curiosity about JWs & this in turn, helps honest hearted people, ( not bigots like u who deny God's word in your own Bible) to listen to the goodnews of God's kingdom. Congrats, U have embarked on a lost cause. hairyrapunzel ( your moniker sef na magic, pagan trash!!) Nobody can fight Jehovah & win. NEVER!!!!!

Na big LIE them wan put come say na watchtower talk am ("your leaders says Jehovah will kill more than 99.9% " simply means 100%)Check am na.. These dishonest people (haters of JW) are not even smart enough to disguise their hatred for the truth (matt. 7:13,14,20).

salvation101:
he quoted it already but seems you didn't see it.

As for humans upon earth, on the side of Jehovah will be all those fully dedicated to him and who are faithfully following Jesus Christ; compared with earth's billions these are indeed few. ... On Satan's side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.9 percent ..." Watchtower 1958 Oct 15 p.614

@Salvation 101: The quoted portion in dark print is at best a FORGERY to DISTORT what the watchtower actually says. In ALL it's publications ,JW's DON'T give exact figures of those who will enter God's kingdom or survive Armageddon. The fact remains that in comparison to the world's population, few would enter God's kingdom (Matt7:13,14. Gen7:21-23. 1pet3:20).

salvation101:
so you are rearing sinners and making dem take oath of secrecy.. U r more of a cult then

Salvation 101, i don't want to believe that u are on something lighter coke. . Na inside your head u give JWs oath of secrecy. Indeed, a leopard can't change it's spot. Shameless liar.

Ken4Christ:
You just said Jesus lied. Your own punishment will be worse. If it is a parable, Jesus will not mention specific names. Your unbelief doesn't change what it is.

Ken4christ: The Samaritans lived during Jesus days on earth, but never had anything to do with a Jew or jews. Yet he gave a parable about the good Samaritan,going by your claim, does that mean that Jesus spoke about a real life event ? No of course! In the same vein, the parable of the rich man,Lazarus & Abraham was fiction intended to teach & educate his listeners & followers. Was Adam,the first sinner, ever tortured in hellfire as punishment for his sins? (Gen3:19. 2thes1:7-9. Jude1:7). Hellfire is a fallacy.

Ken4Christ:
You just said Jesus lied. Your own punishment will be worse. If it is a parable, Jesus will not mention specific names. Your unbelief doesn't change what it is.

Ken4christ: The Samaritans lived during Jesus days on earth, but never had anything to do with a Jew or jews. Yet he gave a parable about the good Samaritan,going by your claim, does that mean that Jesus spoke about a real life event ? No of course! In the same vein, the parable of the rich man,Lazarus & Abraham was fiction intended to teach & educate his listeners & followers. Did Adam,the first sinner ever tortured as punishment for his sins? (Gen3:19). Hellfire is a fallacy.

Ken4Christ:
You just said Jesus lied. Your own punishment will be worse. If it is a parable, Jesus will not mention specific names. Your unbelief doesn't change what it is.

Ken4christ: The Samaritans lived during Jesus days on earth, but never had anything to do with a Jew or jews. Yet he gave a parable about the good Samaritan,going by your claim, does that mean that Jesus spoke about a real life event ? No of course! In the same vein, the parable of the rich man,Lazarus & Abraham was fiction intended to teach & educate his listeners & followers.

enimooko:
One more time....Acts of Apostles 15:1-41

That ranpunzel seems to suffer from psychotic delusion... He would read those verses (Acts15:1-41) upside down & come back here to argue blindly.

M0ron:
This is what they do; cover up each other’s faults

@M0ron: The news report states that "Any suggestions that Jehovah's witnesses covered up child abuse was ABSOLUTELY FALSE ! " Let it sink into your brain. https:// wol.jw.org/En/wol/d/r1/Ip-e/1997003

salvation101:
i see the pure religion folks avoiding this thread like a plague :oGB body must be shitting in their pants now

salvation 101,JW have nothing to be ashamed about. Haters & disgruntled ex-JW would always resort to character assassination to malign the name of Jehovah God & His people. https://wol.jw.org/En/wol/d/r1/Ip-e/1997003 JW upholds God's righteous standards unlike your lascivious pastorpreneurs & their copy cat membership whose iniquities are swept under the toga of grace. Abegi, shift!

salvation101:
Children who were raped and abused by Jehovah’s Witnesses were told by church elders not to report it because it would shame the religion, it is claimed.

Victims from across Britain have told the BBC how they were routinely abused — but it was hushed up by the secretive organization.

One victim, Louise Palmer, said she was told that reporting her rapist brother to police would “bring reproach on Jehovah.”

The 41-year-old, formerly of Halesowen — a small town 115 miles north-west of London — was born into the organization along with her brother Richard Davenport, who started raping her when she was four. He is now in jail.

She said of the moment she went to elders: “I asked, ‘what should I do? Do you report it to the police, do I report it to the police?'”

“And their words were that they strongly advised me not to go to the police because it would bring reproach on Jehovah.”

Palmer added: “I believe children aren’t safe. No child is ever going to feel like they can come forward.”

Another woman said she was raped as a child by a friend of her brother.

But her parents and elders in the congregation advised her not to report it.

The BBC said it also spoke to male and female victims in Worcestershire, Birmingham, Cheltenham, Leicester and Glasgow who told gave similar accounts.

They claim the religion’s organizing body “self-polices” sins but insists on two witnesses before a congregation will act on any alleged transgression.

But that is impossible in most cases of sexual abuse.

Victims also told the BBC how church elders teach members to avoid interactions with outside authorities and not to take another member to court.

Breaking this rule could lead to expulsion from the religion, they say.

Child abuse lawyer Kathleen Hallisey believes there could be thousands of victims across the country who have not come forward because of the “two witness” rule.

The organization described child abuse as a “heinous crime and sin” and said it did not “shield abusers from the authorities of the consequences of their actions.”

It said: “Any suggestion that Jehovah’s Witnesses covered up child abuse was absolutely false.”

It said victims and their parents had “the absolute right to report the matter to the governmental authorities” and that was “not contingent on the number of witnesses to the offense.”

The statement added “loving and protective parents” were the “best deterrent to child abuse” and elders provided “abuse victims and their families with spiritual comfort from the Bible.”

An ongoing inquiry into safeguarding issues in the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Britain – the UK’s main Jehovah’s Witnesses organization – was begun by the Charity Commission watchdog in 2013.
https://nypost.com/2017/11/20/jehovahs-witnesses-accused-of-systematically-covering-up-sex-crimes/

@salvation 101: The above link u shared to malign Jehovahs name speaks volume about ur person & what u stand for- character assassination & defamation . [b][quote author]author=salvation101 post=67940324]Children who were raped and abused by Jehovah’s Witnesses were told by church elders not to report it because it would shame the religion, it is claimed.

Victims from across Britain have told the BBC how they were routinely abused — but it was hushed up by the secretive organization.

One victim, Louise Palmer, said she was told that reporting her rapist brother to police would “bring reproach on Jehovah.”

The 41-year-old, formerly of Halesowen — a small town 115 miles north-west of London — was born into the organization along with her brother Richard Davenport, who started raping her when she was four. He is now in jail.

She said of the moment she went to elders: “I asked, ‘what should I do? Do you report it to the police, do I report it to the police?'”

“And their words were that they strongly advised me not to go to the police because it would bring reproach on Jehovah.”

Palmer added: “I believe children aren’t safe. No child is ever going to feel like they can come forward.”

Another woman said she was raped as a child by a friend of her brother.

But her parents and elders in the congregation advised her not to report it.

The BBC said it also spoke to male and female victims in Worcestershire, Birmingham, Cheltenham, Leicester and Glasgow who told gave similar accounts.

They claim the religion’s organizing body “self-polices” sins but insists on two witnesses before a congregation will act on any alleged transgression.

But that is impossible in most cases of sexual abuse.

Victims also told the BBC how church elders teach members to avoid interactions with outside authorities and not to take another member to court.

Breaking this rule could lead to expulsion from the religion, they say.

Child abuse lawyer Kathleen Hallisey believes there could be thousands of victims across the country who have not come forward because of the “two witness” rule.

The organization described child abuse as a “heinous crime and sin” and said it did not “shield abusers from the authorities of the consequences of their actions.”

It said: “Any suggestion that Jehovah’s Witnesses covered up child abuse was absolutely false.”

It said victims and their parents had “the absolute right to report the matter to the governmental authorities” and that was “not contingent on the number of witnesses to the offense.”

The statement added “loving and protective parents” were the “best deterrent to child abuse” and elders provided “abuse victims and their families with spiritual comfort from the Bible.”

An ongoing inquiry into safeguarding issues in the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Britain – the UK’s main Jehovah’s Witnesses organization – was begun by the Charity Commission watchdog in 2013.
https://nypost.com/2017/11/20/jehovahs-witnesses-accused-of-systematically-covering-up-sex-crimes/[/quote]@salvation 101: The above link u shared to malign Jehovah's name speaks volume about ur person & what u stand for- character assassination & defamation . In the link U shared ," children who were raped & abused by Jehovah's witness were told by church elders not to report it because it would shame the religion, it is claimed". Indeed it is a FALSE CLAIM built on FALSEHOOD & the wicked intent of defamation. The FIRM & RESOLUTE RESPONSE of JEHOVAH'S WITNESS : " ..described child abuse as a heinous crime & sin & it said it did not shield abusers from the authorities & the consequences of their actions. ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES COVERED UP CHILD ABUSE IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE". Haters would always resort to smear tactics. No be today eee start. This link below is accessible to all. https://wol.jw.org/En/wol/d/r1/Ip-e/1997003

MikeBetty:
1John 5:7. (7) For There Are Three That Bear Record In Heaven, The Father, The Word(son) And The Holy Ghost: And These Three Are One. ( And There Are Three That Bear Witness In Earth, The Spirit, And The Water And The Blood And These Three Agree In One.

@MikeBetty: This passage (1John5:7) is not in the original manuscripts of the Bible. It's a forgery in KJV .Check other bibles other than KJV, u will not see it. Hebrew 1:1-3 gives us a better understanding of Gen1:26, the son of God is the one "through whom God made the universe",including man.. Jesus being the first creation of the invincible God.(Colossians 1:15) Pls discard the fallacy called trinity.

johnw47:
you false jw's hold false doctrines,
you say the Lord Jesus Christ is an angel,
you say angels are in your headquarters telling your elders things.

however the Holy Spirit tells Christians things, there is no need since pentecost for God to send angels to Christians with messages

false jw think the Holy Spirit is just God's power

Act 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.


God is a Spirit, who might the Holy Spirit be, ummmmm

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

@Johnw74: Angel Gabriel is a spirit, does that make him God Almighty?
At Pentecost ,was God poured out upon 120 disciples in that upper room? Recall Jesus words to his followers, (Acts 1:8. 4:33). Just like petrol to a generator set.
John 1:1, the original Greek manuscript reads : " In beginning was the word ,& the word was with ('with' means toward or facing) the god,& god was the word". The verse never said "...& the god was the word". Besides, "the word" had a beginning. but God Almighty has no beginning. Jesus calls Almighty God ,Jehovah "my Father". For instance ,if i said to U, "the newspaper reported that Lagos is a coastal city... " ,does that make the newspaper a person ? Indeed, trinity is a fallacy.

salvation101:
the wikipedia page simply presented different arguments on d subject matter, if i was d one dat directed u to wiki u would av said d page was written by apostates.

U no even read the Wikipedia link because wetin dey there dey wound ur trinity fallacy.

salvation101:
the wikipedia page simply presented different arguments on d subject matter, if i was d one dat directed u to wiki u would av said d page was written by apostates.

U no even read the Wikipedia link because wetin dey there go wound ur trinity fallacy.

Salvation102:
where did you get the "a" from? Does it exist in d greek version?

Pls. go & read this link comprehensively again & again for proper comprehension. It's gonna cure U & purge U from the fallacy of Trinity. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_1:1
Salvation102 : The Greek manuscript reads :" In beginning was the word and word was with (toward or facing ) the god, and god was the word". But, trinitarians FRAUDULENTLY changed "god" in small letters in the Greek manuscript to "God" ,which fraudulently altered the actual meaning of the verse. 419 since the 4th century CE. In John1;1b , the word was with the god (a reference to the Almighty) ,and god (or like god )was the word. (the verse never said " ...and the word was the god).Jesus Christ's Apostles confirmed to us who Jesus really is (John20:30,31. Matt16:13-17. Mark1:1).

johnw47:
you false jw's say you are christians, yet you say the Word who bercame the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is "a god"
you don't know Him and are antichrist, more importantly He doesn't know you

Isa_9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

the Word is not "a god" but is "The mighty God" just like john 1:1 says
the Word is God and of course God is mighty

"The everlasting Father"

God is one, God and the Word is God, God and the Word is the everlasting Father
one God, two persons: let us make man in our image etc.

the Word became the man Jesus Christ.

the Word in the Spirit is God. in the flesh, Jesus is the Son of God

very simple but non believers are blinded to it:

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

non believers = atheists, satanists, antichrist false jw, etc.

I just dey sorry 4U.. See how ur brain dey deceive U: the son of God is God. Also, the son of Lion is Lion( Very Wrong). The son of God is a God. Also,the son of Lion is a Lion. (Very correct).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_1:1
Take it or leave it, "the word is a god." The Greek transliteration to English (as it appears in the original Greek manuscript)
" in beginning was the word & the word was with the god (that is ,towards the god or facing the god),& god was the word".
That is how it appeared in the Greek manuscript. Naim una come twist dey deceive una self that Jesus is God. U guys are too ignorant to know that in Greek language, their sentence structure is very different from that of English language. Scholars of Greek language (Those who know Koine Greek far better than U & I,) have affirmed that indeed ,"the word is a god". As a result, many Bibles in English & other languages ,John 1:1 actually reads. "the word is a god". Pls read the Wikipedia link again & again with out bias & purge yourselves of the fallacy called trinity..
Shalom.

johnw47:
you false jw's say you are christians, yet you say the Word who bercame the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is "a god"
you don't know Him and are antichrist, more importantly He doesn't know you

Isa_9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

the Word is not "a god" but is "The mighty God" just like john 1:1 says
the Word is God and of course God is mighty

"The everlasting Father"

God is one, God and the Word is God, God and the Word is the everlasting Father
one God, two persons: let us make man in our image etc.

the Word became the man Jesus Christ.

the Word in the Spirit is God. in the flesh, Jesus is the Son of God

very simple but non believers are blinded to it:

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

non believers = atheists, satanists, antichrist false jw, etc.

I just dey sorry 4U.. See how ur brain dey deceive U: the son of God is God. Also, the son of Lion is Lion( Very Wrong). The son of God is a God. Also,the son of Lion is a Lion. (Very correct).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_1:1
Whether u like am or not, the word is a god.

Ken4Christ:
All lies. Jehovah witnesses are ministers of the devil disguised as angels of light.

They are not believers in Christ as they don't believe in the bodily resurrection of our Lord Jesus.

Please, don't listen to them before they brainwash you with their ever changing dogmas.

ken4christ: See as U dey deceive your self with your lie, lie. Your pastorpreneurs no try at all. JWs believe in Jesus,our Redeemer & Messiah, the only begotten son of God. (John3:16, 1Cor15:45,47). In fact ,your Bible tells me U are a LIAR. "If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the son of God God lives in him & he in God"-1John4:14,15. (where U see God the son dey for bible? ) Go argue & quarrel with your Bible . Pls stop yarning trash & leave JW alone .

" Originally Ge bene Hinnom, that is (' valley of the sons of Hinnom'), a deep, narrow glen to the south of Jerusalem where the "idolatrous Jews offered their children in sacrifice to Molech(2Chr28:3. 33:6. Jer7:31. 19:2-6). This valley afterwards became the common receptacle for all the refuse of the city. There the dead bodies of animals & of criminals & all kinds of filth were cast & consumed by the "fire kept always burning". It thus in the process of time became the image of the place of everlasting destruction.In this sense it is used by our Lord Matt5:22,29,30.10:28. 18:9. 23:15,33.Luke 12:5.James 3:6"
www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Gehenna.php4
NB: These verses in Matthew, Luke & James has often been mistranslated as "hellfire" or "hell". Please, Shine your eyes, Gehenna is not hellfire , & not a place of torment. Anything thrown in there was burnt to ashes. Gehenna is a fitting symbol of destruction (for the dead without any prospect of resurrection for them)

Hairyrapunzel:
Your reasoning is the daft one here. You say it's only the righteous that will live forever on earth but your governing body members that say they are going to heaven and the 144000 are not among the righteous since they will not live forever on earth. Stop attacking the arguer instead of the argument

Hairyrapunzel,Jesus preached about God's kingdom ( God's government) Mark1:13,14. JW's do the same. Is there ever a kingdom without a king & his subjects? Jesus Christ is the king & 144,000 (born again) his co- rulers with him in heaven. The great multitude of righteous humans on earth,his subjects. (Matt6:9,10. Dan 2:44. 7:13,14. 2pet3:13.John 3:3-5. Rev14:1-3. Rev5:9,10.James 4:4. Matt5:3,5 Ps 37:9,29,34. Rev21:3-5. Num23:19. Zeph2:2,3). U can never decide which family, tribe or country U are born into. In same vein,only God chooses the born again co-rulers with Christ. Going to heaven is not for tea party or jamboree).
Hairyrapunzel ,feel free to twist what is in your own Bible. Shalom

PastorAIO:
1Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives,
1 Peter 3


14For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his believing wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.
1 Corinthians 7

Apart from the book of Ezra, there is nowhere in the bible where the breaking up of families is promoted as a doctrine.

Of course it is only to be expected that you'll twist the bible. The passage from which you draw support for the ghastly and nefarious acts of the JW cult actually refers to sexual immorality and dissociating from them. However like the example I presented showed, the woman was 'disfellowshipped' for being a victim of violent domestic abuse and complaining about it.

What a nasty cult!!

@PastorAIO: U are a LIAR. A very shameless one at that. No one, I repeat, No JW man or woman has ever been " disfellowshipped for being a victim of domestic violence & complaining about it". I know everything there is to know about JW in & out, & with 200% confidence, I affirm that U LIED, pastor of falsehood. U are NEVER forced to listen or accept JW's into ur home. But resist the itch to copy & paste falsehood & lies to malign Jehovah's name. Shalom

salvation101:
Pharisees actually teach the law and were custodian of the law. They were legalistic. If we are to compare that with wat happens today, a sincere individual would know who the Pharisees are. For example, you jw aren't allowed to have a personal interpretation of the scripture except the interpretation ur society gives, in fact thinking about the word of God on ur own understanding is a sign of backsliding according to JW.
Wat is in the bible u r trying to hide? Why must one read d Bible according to how watchtower society wants it to be read and not how he wants to read it? These are just signs of Legalism

@Salvation 101: Would apostles John& Peter be preaching a different sermon from what Jesus taught? Peter get him own church? Paul get him own church? Why did the 1st century christians seek clarification & direction from the Apostles& Older men in Jerusalem ? Unlike ur pastorpreneurs who run one man business empires (COZA, TREM,RCCG etc), the 1st century Christians were united under the direction of the governing body of Apostles & Older men in Jerusalem ,thru God's holy spirit. (JW follow the same model & principle set down by Christ followers,Humility& Unity is their watchword. JW's view God's word the Bible as ONLY source of authority for their beliefs). U guys get it all twisted & very confused because una no wan know & una no gree to follow God's word. Pls read the bible book of Acts & stop exposing ur ignorance .