₦airaland Forum

Chineke ekwela ihe ojo!

Olorun maje!

Allah kiaye !

Ihe nke a dikwa nti njo biko.

Have the 7 villages sacked by the 7 man Ijaw squad(LOL, one man per village! ) recovered  the Oba that was captured two weeks ago?

Any rational person from Yorubaland should tell their cowardly fake warriors of nairaland that Oba is still MIA (missing in action) somewhere in the creeks of the delta.

Last information was that the wife of the leader of the invading militants has turned the Oba into a house boy.

Which kain tin be dis bikonu?

Posted by: ~Bluetooth

And start marrying yoruba men.

Look at these pathetic people always lusting and scheming after Igbo women.

Are you tired of your women who can't get rid of the $h1t in their @55es? 

Any Igbo girl that ends up with a Yoruba first of all has sentenced her children to an eternal live in hell.
She faces two things herself:
Either share a home with about 7 wives and 30 baby mamas, OR
End up dead; killed for her body parts needed for Gbomo Gbomo; or killed by the juju of his countless wives and baby mamas.

A very grim future indeed!

Igbo parents take note and inform your children.

74. Nigerian troops threaten Umuahia but Biafrans are defiant.(September 1968)

83. Biafran troops re-enter Owerri,, with house to house combat reported. (December 1968)

85. De Gaulle urges "recognition of right to self-determination for valiant Biafra" (January 1969)

103. Biafra recaptures Owerri using its 14th Division under Col. Ogbugo Kalu. (April 1969)

103a. Col. Ogbugo Kalu and Biafran Information Commissioner, Ifegwu Eke, address 6 foreign jounalists in Owerri to counter Nigerian denial of its recapture (April 1969)

109. Biafra marks 2nd anniversary of nationhood. Ojukwu, in address, says Biafran forces are ready to meet expected Nigerian offensive. ( May 1969)

110. Biafran forces raid Kwale, across the Niger, killing 11 oil technicians (10 Italians and 1 Jordanian). Biafra captures 17 other oil workers (14 Italian and 3 W. Germans.) Biafra sentences them to death. (June 1969)

^^ Biafra could still raid into Nigerian occupied territory even while standing on last leg! 

Every account of the Biafra war convey mainly one message:

[size=16pt]The toughness, courage and valiance of Biafrans.[/size]

My brothers made me proud and raised the bar of courage and resilience quite high.

I salute their courage and sacrifice.

Look at some northern youths, and tell me if they care about tech jobs.

udezue:
Onlytruth, [b]Let's be honest with ourselves, these companies are owned and operated by Easterners and Igbo in particular. Because of the rabid hatred they have for anything Igbo they are willing to render the nation poor, with youths jobless than support anything by the Igbo. [/b]Even if Nigerians were drowning and the Igbo had the solution free them they will rather drag the East down than take the good offer. The owners of both companies should strive to get other nations in Africa and outside Africa to patronize their products and kiss Nigeria good bye. Enugu already did and I hope other Eastern states will follow through.

A friend of mine from Alayi in Abia State had to relocate his plastic factory to ANGOLA.
Imagine how many jobs he had to destroy, and yet you have goats here chewing grass thinking they are talking to me.

There are MANY Igbo guys who own factories in other African countries.
But for me that is even one of the proofs we need when we make our case.
If I were Innoson, I would relocate NOW to Ghana or anywhere outside Nigeria.

The questions for Ndigbo now are:

For how long shall we allow our dreams to be rubbished just because of Nigeria?
Isn't it time we made some serious moves to secede from that country?
Should we continue in Nigeria until our youths take to crime in numbers large enough to drive us out of our home land?

Those are the questions every Igbo person should be asking himself.

We don't share world-view with most of Nigerians. Their youths can survive on dust, ours can't.
So we cannot say "is alright" and simply walk away.

I've just added a few more folks to the list of those I ignore on nairaland.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=609593.msg7789479#msg7789479 date=1298516119]Let everyone take note.

If you do not buy shi1tty Igbo products, then you are in fact a bigot. And they'll secede.

Heh, keep making all your bullsh1t threats. Me, a guy who would otherwise be relatively neutral will instead work very hard in his life to keep you under Nigeria's boot.

Can you imagine a man begging for a handout and then threatening if you don't give one?
I'm not the one asking for a subsidy. That is YOU.
Keep talking. Let's see whether anything comes of it.
The point is that they instead searched for areas where they had competitive advantage. It wasn't at independence that they built their tech sector. In fact, it is only within the past 10 years that they've been able to do this.

Most people with sense in their heads say, "Hey, which business do I have a bit of an advantage? Let me exploit that." Not, "I wanna do X. I'm not competitive at it, but I'll feed at the government trough."[/quote]Stop making a fool of yourself. The international community know who has been living on handouts in Nigeria.
There is nothing wrong about the idea of government support for local industry. It is common practice ALL OVER THE WORLD.
Our quest for secession has been a "he said, she said" thing. But now, they can see how a thoroughly educated man is asking for government to kill off local industry and keep creating huge numbers of unemployed youths who will find their way into crime and end up in western countries seeking economic refuge.

When next our case comes up, it will be a no-brainer.  

PhysicsMHD:
Mike Okoli and one other fellow were part and parcel to the fraud and theft and all three were charged equally.

With all due respect, I'm talking about the pilot of a plane, the captain of a ship and the driver of a bus, while you are talking about passengers or conductors or crew members.

Iseghohi was the MD/CEO. All buck stopped at his desk.  

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=609593.msg7789439#msg7789439 date=1298515219]God in heaven! You are a dumbass. Are you really involved in any sort of legitimate business? No doubt a drug pusher, that is what you are exporting.

Labor is cheap in Nigeria, yes. But obviously if that were the only input, then Nigeria would have a significant competitive advantage against most other countries, and would likely be a net exporter of finished goods.

Is this the lot of your typical Igbo businessman? Beg and plead for others to buy their sh1tty products, then threaten to secede if they don't? No wonder everyone on earth hates your kind.

This is what I don't get about the Jewish comparisons. At least Israelis MAKE stuff that I like to buy. CPUs from a plant in Israel. I even saw some underwear from Israel one time at Wal-Mart. Never hear about the Jewish man begging for a handout.

Abeg, no beggars permitted. You won't get a dime from me.[/quote]Now I'm convinced that you are even a mental case. If you use Igbo and hand-out in one language, you are beyond redemption.

For your information, most of us here talking to you guys are actually talking to the members of the international community who frequent this site to form opinion about Nigeria and Nigerians. By now, they know who has been drawing the country back and who it the parasite. One day, they will sit in judgment over our request for secession.

If Israel was defeated in 1948, you will not a have an Israeli made CPU today in your computer because the last time I checked, no Arab nation made one.

PhysicsMHD:
lol, you really believe only Igbos do anything good for Nigeria and every non-Biafran group is trash? And then you wonder why you have so many enemies on this site.

With regard to a Tom Iseghohi, I believe a certain Mike Okoli was arrested along with him and also charged with fraud. I wonder what ethnic group Mr. Okoli was from.  

Mike Okoli was not the CEO and MD of Transcorp. Mr Tom Iseghohi was.

Justcash:
This is the reason why Nigeria will never ever develop. Nigerian leaders and some Nigerians are annoyingly blind. Look at morons arguing that it is better to import cars into Nigeria than manufacturing them. Do you all know that in this type of deal;

1. Purchase Agency Consultancy services will be paid for?
2. Export and Import fees will be paid?
3. Shipping cost will be paid?
4. The Cost of Buses will be paid for?
5. Internal transportation of those buses to their locations will be paid for?

If the buses were bought from Nigerian manufacturers;

1. Cost of Buses will be paid for.
2. Internal transportation cost will be paid for.
3. The buyers can personally supervise the production of their buses.
4. The local bus manufacturers can easily offer first hand maintenance servies
5. Jobs will be created during Production, sales and Maintenance.

Now, can someone tell me which one is preferable? those of you talking about quality does not understand that the buyers will have a higher chance of supervising and ensuring quality when these buses are manufactured in Nigeria than when they are made in China.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH NIGERIANS? MY GOD!!!!!!

SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE JOBS, YET SOME NIGERIANS ARE AGAINST IT BECAUSE OF SOME STOOPID REASONS. HOW CAN JOBS BE CREATED WHEN WE KEEP IMPORTING THINGS THAT WE CAN MAKE FOR NO GOOD REASON?

All the government needs to do is to impose tax on imported cars and make them costlier than locally made cars, so that the local manufacturers can gain some patronage to aid their survival, while the government will make income from the tax (People will keep buying imported cars).
common sense!  In the long run, this will make popular car manufacturers to embark on FDI in Nigeria, because Nigeria's population is just too attractive, and more jobs will be stimulated. Gawd!!!! Some Nigerians are so dumb!!!

How can Nigeria's dwindling manufacturing base be salvaged when Nigerians think that it is safer and cheaper to import from outside?

I detest eku-bear and those that feel that Nigerian manufacturers are not worth patronising. Pardon me, but their arguments just showed how useless some Nigerians are.
If I produce DVD machines in Japan, and decide to call them a twisted "Nnamdi" e.g Nnamotosoki. Eku bear and his fellow morons will rush to buy them, than if I had a branch in Nigeria that had produced the same DVD machines and simply called them"Nnamdi". These DVD machines may be produced in Nigeria by the my same Japanese employees, with the same equipments and same quality. Yet it will be despised because it is made in Nnewi and Nigeria.

Nigeria is a hopeless country. I don't even advise any profit-focused manufacturer to manufacture in Nigeria, especially my fellow Igbos, because their products will be despised.

Until disintegration of Nigeria becomes a reality, Nigerians shall never see progress. It will be 1 step forward, 1000 steps backwards always.

Nigeria is one country where you see thoroughly educated folks failing WOEFULLY in simple logic.  

Please note that for 43 years (since after the war), Nigeria has not moved an inch. And year after year, they keep appointing "educated" Nigerians to positions of responsibility only for them to fail serially.

Without any apologies whatsoever, the only time I hold out some hope in Nigeria is when they appoint educated Igbo to sensitive positions; from NAFDAC, to CBN to Nigerian Immigration; nothing happened until they appointed Igbo folks.

I told eku_bear that there is a cultural and philosophical gap between Igbo and other Nigerians, and I meant it.
Something so simple is so difficult for Nigerians to comprehend and follow.

Look at when they appointed one "Tom Iseghohi" to head Transcorp. The dude came in with all his education and pedigree, yet, he orchestrated theft and incompetence there. Look at Olusegun Aganga!  

Look at the CBN and Sanusi. His coming to the bank killed Nigeria's match to being the financial hub in Africa and the world.  

Look at Attihiru Jega, a "renowned and no-nonsense professor" trying to outdo a known crook called Maurice Iwu in "pre-election rigging" or votes. At least Iwu waited till the election. This one couldn't wait!

So, you see why I'm saying that Nigeria should really divide, because since 1970, we (Biafrans) could have developed up to the stage of Israel or even Sweden.

Let "educated" men keep lying to themselves. One day, they will live by themselves and we would be gone.


Innoson should relocate to Ghana if the Federal government fails to give it some share of this contract.

udezue:
roflmao @ ONLYTRUTH

Ivfe nke na so ghu ka Paulina Paulina 

Nwannem, ndi mba ume ngwu a n'akpasu m iwe ri nne. Ha na ewetara umu igbo uno. 

Ha nile bu umu nwanyi n'ewetara umu nwoke onu. 

Ndi nkita rachara anya.  Ya diba kene. 

Nna nwebe anuli biko. 

All these Nigerians trying in futility to explain away an obvious unwise and even invidious economic policy decision really need to go to the school of common sense and wisdom.

I hope they still remember how "Nollywood" started in Nigeria.

There has been a so called movie industry in Nigeria (based mainly in western Nigeria) even BEFORE Nigerian  independence.

Such industry remained (and still remain) what it was/is - LOCAL AND RECIDIVISTIC.

When Nollywood started, it was mocked as low quality (some of it still is), and laughed at by the same segment of the old Nigerian movie industry.

Guess what? Today Nollywood has placed Nigeria on the WORLD map of film making, and some of its actors and actresses are now receiving acting roles in HOLLYWOOD.

Was there constant electricity before Nollywood started? OF COURSE NOT.

That is why I keep saying that the Igbo man's frustration in Nigeria, and our wish for a separate country stem from the fact that we don't share world view and philosophy with a BIG SEGMENT of the Nigerian nation.

It is frustrating that we cannot pursue our dreams in this country.

Some will come here to say well you have state, local government, et al. My answer to them is this: How can you win starting a business like Innoson Auto industry when you have the FEDERAL government of Nigeria always trying to undermine you either deliberately or unwittingly?

If we have a Biafra, I can assure you that we will dominate African technology and production because the Biafran government will support them WHOLLY.  

So, let me ask again, Why are we still one nation?  

dayokanu:

Don't be embarrassed. Abi you nor know before?

GEJ don win hands down!

SE(95%), SS(98%), NC(70%), NE(55%) , SW (Jonathan -40%, Buhari- 30%, Ribadu -30%), NW (Jonathan- 35%, Buhari-60%, Ribadu-5%)

Get me my champagne.

I think I've made my points clear enough. Gotta go.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=609593.msg7777184#msg7777184 date=1298348308]If electricity is solved, then Nigerian manufacturing becomes a lot more competitive and probably won't need subsidies.

Why would the gov't need to subsidize anyone if you have a country where you can pay a worker $100/month, and spend (for example) $0.15 per kWh for electricity?

At that point, we have a significant advantage against the Chinese and anybody else, at least when competing in the West African market for many different sorts of goods.

Asking for subsidies without facing the electricity problem is putting the cart before the horse.
No. My point is, hunt for opportunities where you have an advantage. . . or at worst, a small disadvantage. Don't hunt for businesses to invest in in which you have a significant disadvantage and require being propped up by the government to do well. I'm pretty much a pure capitalist. You seem to be some sort of socialist, I guess.
Are you using a local laptop, or a foreign one?[/quote]I believe that we've had 50 years for us to generate electricity, but failed to do so.
Therefore waiting for that before we start manufacturing is not a good idea. In fact I believe that we should start manufacturing everything TODAY because in the process we will develop the technical skill set to defeat the power monster.
You see my point?
As for the computer, Zinox is the top Nigerian brand the last time I checked; they produce everything from laptops to servers.

I AM A CAPITALIST TOO.

However, I am an American brand of capitalist. No strategic industry develops without government support (grants and patronage).

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=609593.msg7777147#msg7777147 date=1298347525]Do you guys actually put your money where your mouth is? Do you buy locally made goods when they cost far more than the equivalent abroad? If not, then imo you are being hypocrites.

For me, the things that Nigeria makes cheaper (local food items, for example), I stock up on. But if I need an LCD, I'll buy one from where it is most cheaply made. Same with a computer. . . I'll buy from where it is most cheaply made.

I bet for 99% of you, you are sitting there typing on a laptop/computer assembled outside of Nigeria.

If "local ingenuity" = "buy my widget X for 3 times as much as you can get it outside of Nigeria", then let me come too and feed from the trough.

Local ingenuity ko, government subsidy ni.[/quote]In all honesty, we (you and me) share widely different views on this. And I would go a step to say that the difference is cultural.
I believe I can start a manufacturing (even if low quality at first) and grow from there.
You believe you must be perfect from day one.

Well, there is a Nigeria assembled computer called Zinox and it did not start perfect.
That is part of why I lament Nigeria's failures because a Biafra would have gone very far.