₦airaland Forum

eku_bear:
Always that, isn't it? There must be an anti-Igbo sentiment behind my position, right? If ANNAMCO/INNOSON were Yoruba-owned businesses, I'd want the gov't to piss away money subsidizing them?
I'm not a fan of gov't propping up failed business models, and have never been. If a mumu Yoruba businessman decides to invest heavily in a business in which he has no comparative advantage, I certainly will not be the one to advocate that anyone saves him.

See, this is the type of business which makes sense in Yorubaland at this time: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-18/nestle-nigeria-full-year-profit-climbs-29-as-sales-rise.html

A chocolate factory in Ogun State. Food manufacturing/processing is something that doesn't require massive amounts of tech to execute well. From there, you can progress further up the tech chain. This is the way of the world. The US was not a high-end tech country back in the day; it was a nation primarily of farmers and exporters of raw goods. Then they progressed over time up the tech chain.
The car parts are of terrible quality dude, or high prices. My dad had me buy a bunch of tires for his car and ship them to him. Somehow it was cheaper for a tire probably manufactured in China, sent to Houston, then loaded on a plane and flown to Nigeria to be cheaper for him than just buying locally  

So today in Nigeria, there is STILL opportunity to setup a tire plant for high-end vehicles. Just make sure the prices are good and the quality high, and you'll make money.

Well, we share seriously divergent views on this issue.
I believe that local manufacturing needs some form of subsidy to be able to grow past beginning stages.
Even old manufacturing companies have been aided in advanced countries, so expecting a developing country not to aid her own local manufacturing is disingenuous IMHO.

This is how Nigeria has failed to develop local technology for 50 years.

alj harem:
ok, i though you use to boast the eastern region is biafra,.,., if true, then why should people make the business grow

if false which i know it is, then you are right,.,. the sooner we invest in our companies the better it is to leave this hell hole called africa mentality

but can i ask you a question, would you invest or buy from that company

Eastern region WAS Biafra. It could still be Biafra if Nigeria disintegrates tomorrow.  

"One Nigeria" is not by mouth; you should demonstrate it by action. And by that I mean stop being st00pid, and making us remember what Biafra could have been. In Biafra, those companies would compete with Daimler-Benz.

However, I don't think this has anything to do with Biafra. This is just a st00pid economic move by someone in government. It affects ALL Nigerian manufacturing because it tells them in no uncertain terms that they can never be good enough.

Talk about one tying his own feet.  

alj harem:
i know,.,. it is what happens when groups are colonialised

You mean when groups carry out self colonization.

ROSSIKE:
Onlytruth, you know, sometimes I wonder if there are some foreign elements influencing some of these clearly senseless decisions made by the Nigerian govt. It's hard to see how even a primary school student would not know it was more beneficial to boost local manufacturers with such contracts than to hand them to the Chinese. I mean, really?

Or maybe someone somewhere was bribed by the deep pocketed Chinese?

Are the foreign elements also influencing youths like Eku_bear?

Would Eku_bear take the same position if those automobile factories are in Lagos or Ogun State?

What baffles me more is that, these types of youths even fail to see that if ANNAMCO or INNOSON fails, no one will attempt to start similar company in ANY part of Nigeria.
Their failure is Nigeria's failure.

@ Eku_bear,

Nigeria has been producing car parts for YEARS.

When are we going to start producing complete cars?

@eku_bear

I can't believe that an educated person like you is making this argument that we should always buy from outside because it is nominally cheaper.

This is part of why I don't believe that education is the only needed qualification by a public servant.

That is why we have people with top degrees brought in from outside Nigeria (like Aganga) who come in with fake pedigree and fail on their jobs.

My friend, Nigeria wastes more money on whole lot of things; spending a little more (assuming that is the case in this story) to support local industry and create jobs is FAR MORE ECONOMICALLY SENSIBLE then buying from the Chinese.

Do you know the IMMEDIATE impact of such action on manufacturing companies in Nigeria?
Would you believe that it could actually lead to laying off of staff and closing shop in Nigeria?
Would you believe that it can push these companies to more serious African countries like Ghana?
Do you think that there will EVER be a time when a Nigerian company can produce cheaper than Chinese ones, without first developing?
How can they develop without some form of patronage by the Nigerian government who is on the other hand supporting their foreign competitors?

Nigeria is a hopeless country mainly because even the educated citizens are either too dumb or too bigoted, or BOTH!

PhysicsHD:
What are the tourist attractions in Ekiti state?


Somebody tell me.

Have you ever seen a mountain of cow $h!t?
If not, head to Okiti.   I ain't going though. Can't stand the stench.

The militants also said to make sure there are no OPC in sight when they accept the ransom else they would start all over again, capture the OPC and capture even more Obas. 

^^

Ah, I'm only getting warmed up.

But on a more serious note, that Oba don hear weehn by now!

And tell the other 6 towns to return home, minus virgins of course.

And I keep mentioning virgins because those boys can poke anything except married women (fear of Egbesu is the beginning of wisdom ). So, in the absence of woman, Oba go replace.

Have the Yoruba paid the Ijaws youths for the release of their Oba yet?

I told them two days ago that they should pay up fast before those boys cross the river Niger into the eastern region.  Latest information is that the Oba is somewhere near Okerenkoko, washing dishes for the local warlord's wife there.

My advise is still to pay up, and fast!. All it takes is a high quality Kai Kai and some virgins. 

Chei, which kain thing be dis? Na wa o!

eku_bear:
Is Alhaji Harem secretly the commander of Boko Haram? 

Actually this is the most important question about that guy.

Alhaji Harem is the most anti-southern Nigerian you can get on nairaland  , and we all know that Boko Haraem's sold aim is to attack any Nigerian accustomed to western way of life -southern Nigerians.

I guess Ojukwu's only consolation is that he has lived to see all those who betrayed the "Nigerian dream" judged by history.
There is a quiet war going on in Northern Nigeria today, and parts of areas which sabotaged the survival of Biafra.
Biafran war proves that "might is right".

So next time, we will toss fairness and justice to the pigs and simply get the bigger weapons.  QED.   (apologies Physics ).

You joined in protest against regionalisation and ended up becoming the leader of a region?

It did not really matter where it led, either against my own personal interest and the perceived wisdom of the day; I knew that my duty lay in the protection of the people entrusted to me.

I now understand why Ojukwu allowed THREE massacres of Ndigbo in the north before he agreed to do something drastic about it.
If I was in his shoes, one massacre is enough to make me bring HELL to Nigeria. 

This man is the most abused Nigerian of all time!

Well, he has been proven right severally.

Some things stood out from the interview though:

My protest was actually against what I considered the wrong direction, the fragmentation of Nigeria. I went into the army against regionalisation of Nigeria. [/b]I looked to give my service to the only viable federal institution. [b]I couldn't become a prison warder or a policeman. The only one that was left was the army and I went for it.

The ultimate truth is that Ojukwu was a nationalist Nigerian even before a lot of folks who mouth off one Nigeria.
He thought he could serve his country and wanted to stop the evil of division.

I have always said that division is evil, and I only support it as a last resort (a necessary evil).
It must have been really hard for Ojukwu to abandon Nigeria in defence of his Eastern Nigerian brothers and sisters.
The man sacrificed himself and everything he believed just to save his people.

A true legend.  

PhysicsHD:
(I don't have de St Jorre's book with me at the moment @ eku_bear)

Let's look at this logically:

1. Would Gowon, pursuing a "no victor, no vanquished" philosophy, have done anything against Ojukwu?
2. Could Gowon have done anything to Ojukwu? Would Azikiwe, Effiiong, etc. have let anything major be done to Ojukwu?


So if he was "fleeing," what was he fleeing from?


He could have surrendered and not left.

That he left must be precisely because he was unyielding in trying to see Biafra actualized. In another thread I already posted an excerpt from de St. Jorre's book that showed how Ojukwu's unwillingness to compromise was one of the key things that pushed Zik to the federal side.

Surely you guys have heard of governments-in-exile? Does the name General Charles de Gaulle ring a bell? What did he do in WW2? Flee out of "cowardice"?  

Solid points which was corroborated by Col Joe Achuzia's last comment on Biafra  that Biafra simply decided to stop fighting, hence the interviewer's question to Ojukwu about whether he felt betrayed by those he left behind.

Intelligent folks can easily follow these things but don't hang your hopes on dumb fellows like alj harem.

Some guys here wanted Ojukwu to travel openly and conspicuously when he could have been ambushed and killed by Nigerian forces or even a targeted air strike.

So, if Ojukwu didn't travel with a giant target mark on himself, he must be a coward! LMAO.

Thanks Physics! 

Nna mehn my statesmen in Anambra state intimidate me, and I am not easily intimidated! Chei! what a state!

, . and my set is still coming up to take the stage by storm.

savanaha:
I think his shameless son should be taken out like him. Hopefully in the end of it all he will be found hiding in a man hole like. . .

Actually you meant "spider-hole".

His son was threatening a civil war. What can't tyrants say to survive in office.

Libya is a very funny and weird country, but Gaddafi's days may still be numbered.

bk.babe97y:
So, if this was written about some Ibo land u'd take it as an affront and insult instead of analysis, the op's personal view, or constructive criticism?

Why Nigeria hasnt chased out you and your likes to the easternmost parts of the country is still beyond me. Beast!

Em, this is why Nigeria has not chased us out, and will die keeping us than let us go.
Nigeria depends on us and our neighbors oil and gas resources.
My business and import duties also sustain the fraudulent superstructure.   

Ileke-IdI:
You're not the only one

Have they released your property? No answer? awwww, must be sad to bow to the Ijaws no?

Parting info:

Simple answer is that Ijaw is NOT holding Igbo properties; THE FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT OF OLD RIVERS STATE did and all occupiers do so with Government backing. If the government tell us tomorrow to go recover our properties, we will recover them plus interests.  

So, go find your Oba now before it is too late.

I've enjoyed myself well well for dis thread!  

Rollin on the floor for hours!
Abeg where are these my Ijaw boys sef, I need to give them some potent KAI KAI jare.
Nonsense.

I take my leave now. All rise!  

Ileke-IdI:
LOL I bet they fear for the lives of their family in Ekiti  

Have you found the Oba? lmao.

Ijaw dey return tomorrow to mop up any OPC in sight.