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LOL@ Ibime's "GIVE US LAND".

But @topic, someone raised an important point. How come the Ijaws are so land hungry while they are fishermen?
Wetin dem go take land do? lmao.

@military prowess, I don't believe that olden days proves much because that time, only a handful of white folks armed with musket and dane guns subdued millions of Africans.

I would boast more about Biafran military prowess than anything else because it happen in contemporary times when all instruments of modern warfare played roles: submachines guns, machine guns, howitzers (field artilery), armoured personnel carries (APC) and main battle tanks, fighters and bomber aircrafts, warships and thousands of men and women lined up in opposite fronts.

That is what I would call war, and only one group in Nigeria has actually seen that -Igbo, Ijaw, Ibibio/Annang, Ogoni, Ekoi.

Anybody trying to win an argument with kobojunkie is toying with an advanced case of schizophrenia and mental anachronism.
Be warned.

Solution: DON'T ARGUE WITH HER.

She says "Nigeria is the most advanced country in the world"; you say "yeeeeeees!", end of story.

Ezeuche nwee okwukwe! Onweghi ihe g'eme ndi igbo.

Chukwu huru ndi igbo n'anya n'uzo pure iche. O goziri anyi nke ukwu! Asi na obughi maka chukwu, ndi iro anyi aka ememina anyi kamgbe! Ya mere, atula egwu.

Ihe anyi kwesiri idi na eme oge nile bu ihurita onwe anyi n'anya, maka ndi iro.

Chukwu ga atuputara anyi onye ndu n'oge n'adighi anya.

^^

Someone may be stealing from you.
We've been told that Igbos want to steal other peoples oil, but nobody blinks when our oil is being stolen indirectly.
Igboland may be the richest part of Nigeria in terms of human and natural resources, but our region host the least federal projects.
Think.

Interesting stuff!

@alj harem.

Do you feed through the anus? Frank question.

Rhino.5dm:
Aha! to mu wanda ya ci tuwo da mu miya ya sha, in ka ja da ni, in ja da ubanka

Quote from: Obiagu1

Hahaha, I know. If you go into a battle with the Yoruba on your side, NEVER strike first. Just let them fire the first bullet and fully commit themselves before you join the fight, else if you make the mistake and fire the first bullet and the enemy fires his own, the Yoruba will listen and compare the 2 sounds, if the sound of the enemy's gun is louder and more frightening, he'll switch allegiance and join the enemy and fight you instead with every strength in them as if you were initially their enemy.

hahaha! hehehe!

walahi this must be the funniest and most accurate comment about Yorubas so far on nairaland.

@ShangoThor

Pls calm down. Though I think you are an old member of nairaland with a new name, I really like your persona, and your message, especially your really intelligent take on geopolitics. So don't derail. Recoil back and refocus on your message; it will land. 

Posted by: sbeezy8

hmmmm strange ibo way of twisting everything I wrote into being about ibo. when I CLEARLY NAMED OTHER TRIBES.

So by including other tribes, you showed your culture of accommodation?  

Let me tell you something. Do you know that a single Yoruba woman married into an Igbo family would be so accommodate that Yoruba (or Ijaw or Hausa or whatever is the woman's language) would be eventually spoken by most members of that family?

That is what I call accommodation.
Can you say the same thing about your people?

It is an open secret that Yoruba is the most tribalistic majority tribe in Nigeria. Quote me on that.  

Quote from: sbeezy8

I cannot speak for all families But I can speak for mines and everyone in my family gravitates towards yoruba side of the family.

RARELY do you hear any language being spoken unless its the aunties and uncles who married into the family speaking it around their Igbo,bini,urhobo,hausa, nupe,ewe igarra friends or relatives.

Yoruba is the MOST acceptable culture esp if one speaks the Language. When you marry a yoruba you are marrying their family/culture that means going to their village and being one of them, infact we should not even know you are a  non yoruba!

Truth is very easy to spot. Yes you are speaking the truth!
But wait a minute, what happens when the in-laws (bride's junior brothers and sisters as if often the case with Igbo families) show up? Are they treated with understanding or are they called names and targeted for ridicule and other types of abuse? That is what determines whether the bride feels comfortable in the family or not.
Most Igbo girls will quit a marriage if her family is not accommodated.

I will always advise my Igbo sisters to stay away from inter-tribal marriage unless the culture is similar to Igbo, eg delta, cross-river, river, akwa-ibom and parts of benue. These areas are not much different in how they approach marriage and in-law relationships.

If you marry Yoruba,you will likely live ALL your life and die in Lagos (if you are lucky), if not, you will eventually wake up to cold reality if you have any sense of self worth.  But more importantly, he is likely to marry a second, third and so on wives or baby mamas in tow who mess too much with juju. Be wise.

Posted by: EzeUche_

And to the Northerners, you all destroyed your region, and now you will suffer. As the Sahara spreads to your region, do not come down to the East, because we will resist you. Now the same cannot be said of the South-West, because Yorubas believe that you are brothers with them. Spread your Sokoto Caliphate to that region, where Islam already exist.

Desertification will solve our problems. Their region cannot sustain that population.

LOL. Sometimes you make my day.  

I have always believed that SE and SW (northward of Lagos) host the best real estate in Nigeria (assuming SE controls erosion of course). Both North and SS (especially the N.delta) could face extreme natural events -desertification and rise in sea levels.

@topic,

When are they leaving?

Posted by: Obiagu1

Like I told you before, GEJ just wanted to try, he's there already. With those figures, depending on his support in the SW, he might still win if his support in the NC is average.

If the North has just one candidate, the that candidate will definitely win. This is why I was shouting about rotational presidency and you doubted me believing the South is more.

All I said was the maybe the GEJ government knows what the rest of us don't know about Nigerian demographics, and I stand by that.
Look, Nigeria politics is too complex to be narrowed down to zoning and rotational presidency.
Okay what happened to the PDP zoning arrangement? Are they abiding by it?

. . . I'll be back.  

Posted by: Obiagu1

I've lived in Kano, Katsina, Jigawa, Kaduna etc and I'll tell you that they are many especially Kano.
When I heard that Lagos State government was claiming that Lagos was 17 million, I said it was a lie because Lagos is a city state and a 17 million population will resemble New York City but that's not the case, New York is congested.

The SW 15 million eligible voters is close to accurate because SE gave 7 million from 5 states while, if SW 5 states produce 7 or 8 million, the rest came from Lagos.
The problem now is NW which is dubious because of obvious underage registrants but the true figure won't be less then 14 million which is still much.


As for your previous argument, I put a hyperlink in my previous post, reread it. You actually said that maybe the South is more than the North which has turned out to be false, thus your argument failed like I promised you it will

Believe me I stand by my claim, but I am not INEC abi?

So, assuming I'm wrong, do you believe in your heart that GEJ believes these figures and hopes to win with them? Or do you think he hopes to win a "free and fair" elections with these numbers?

When you answer these questions, you will meet the truth.

Posted by: eku_bear

I wouldn't take these #s as gospel truth. Perhaps both GEJ and Jega are constrained in what #s they can use officially.

I'd be pretty surprised if the NW were the most populous zone.

May not be far from the truth. If you want to rule Nigeria with northern support, there are things you must not touch:

(1) Population figures passed down by past leaders
(2) Revenue sharing formula
(3)Geopolitical advantages given to a section of the country via the constitution by past leaders.

If you abide by these things, all other things are negotiable.  

Posted by: Obiagu1

Ist of all, the result is from the current registration exercise.

2ndly, not talking about Igbos now, but the fact that NW has as much as 18 millions tells you that Hausa/Fulani are many. Take away underage registrants, illegalities, etc and you'll still get at least 10 millions of qualified voters.

If you want to talk about Igbos, we have 7 millions already in the SE in which we constitute over 98%. Add those Igbos from SS, SW, etc, you'll see that NW will give you a good run for your money.
The fact is, going back to our previous argument, the population of the North is much with or without errors.

I don't think I ever said the North is not big. What I said was that it may not be as big as we've been told for ages.

But let me ask you; do you believe that SW including Lagos is only 15 million voters? Frankly?   Me, I don't. 

I don't know how NW can be bigger than SW including Lagos.

These numbers will be questioned.

My theory about possible big Igbo population still stands.

Posted by: Obiagu1

@ OnlyTruth, remember I told you you'd be shocked that the North is actually populous as they claim.
Can you see the numbers?

So your premise has been defeated. Agreed?

mba o! I no gree at all.

Firstly, the numbers are not from current registration of voters.

Secondly, the numbers, to quote the inimitable Chuba Okadigbo "is like the bikini; what it reveals is interesting, but it is what it does not reveal that is intriguing".

In my own words, even when they release the figures, don't just look at geopolitical zones. Look at "patterns".

For instance, we know that SW has Lagos which contributes about half of the total population from that zone, and Lagos has large numbers of Igbos. Same applies to Kano in the NW and other zones.

So Igbo numbers are masked in these figures.

When we conduct census identifying citizens by tribe, the picture will become clear.

Posted by: Kobojunkie

WOW . .  . Is the @Poster now no longer supporting PDP ? What do you care who Ribadu pairs himself up with?

I was not supporting PDP, I am supporting GEJ. If you read my post you would see that I was being apprehensive of the development. But WTH, I want the best for Nigeria.  

[size=16pt]Intrigues stall Ribadu’s choice of running mate[/size]

By JIDE AJANI & EMMANUEL AZIKEN

LAGOS — INTERESTS and intrigues among party chieftains are stalling the final choice of a vice-presidential candidate for the Action Congress of Nigeria, ACN ahead of the commencement of electioneering campaigns on Wednesday.

The party’s presidential candidate and erstwhile anti-graft czar, Mallam Nuhu Ribadu, it was learnt, is rooting for former Governor of Anambra State, Dr. Chris Ngige, and former Senate President, Ken Nnamani in a descending order.

However, party elders from the Southwest and notably a former Governor believed to be a financier of the party, are pushing the Lagos State Commissioner for Economic Planning and Budget, Mr. Ben Akabueze.

Akabueze, from Imo State, served in the Asiwaju Bola Tinubu administration as Commissioner for Economic Planning and Budget and was retained in the same portfolio by Tinubu’s successor, Babatunde Fashola. Vanguard learnt that Ribadu has tabled his choice as Ngige but the party elders are not satisfied and are canvassing Akabueze.

Ngige’s choice
Ribadu’s choice of Ngige was believed to be based on electoral acceptability and the democratic credentials he presented when he served as Governor of Anambra State between 2003 and 2005. Ngige was also chairman of the party’s National Convention Committee.

Vanguard learnt that at a meeting of Thursday, February 10, held at the ACN National Campaign Headquarters late in the evening, about 10 members of the party were present and the issue was on how to resolve what was described as the “emerging face off between Mallam Nuhu Ribadu and Senator Ahmed Bola Tinubu over the choice of presidential running mate for the party”.

Vanguard gathered that among those present at the meeting were Chief Bisi Akande, National Chairman, Senator Lawal Shuaibu, National Secretary, Dr. Usman Bugaje, Uche Onyeagocha, Chido Onuma and Lukman Salihu.

A source told Vanguard that whereas Ribadu is insisting on choosing his own running mate, Tinubu declaring that it was for him to determine who runs with Ribadu.

Whereas, the source continued, Ribadu wants a professional as his running mate from the South East geo-political zone, Tinubu is of the view that “two professionals may not be in a position to effectively mobilize against the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP.

“Tinubu’s position is clear and it is obvious that even Ribadu himself is a professional and, therefore, pitching him with another professional would not be in the electoral interest of the party.”

Dropping of Okonjo-Iweala
Vanguard was reliably informed that, three days earlier, February 7, 2011, the meeting of the leadership of the party had disagreed and eventually dropped the name of Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala as running mate, a choice ostensibly put forward by Ribadu

At the February 10 meeting, Chief Akande reportedly told the gathering that “Ribadu should be advised on the implications of having problems with Tinubu” because the latter did everything possible to ensure that Ribadu emerged as the ACN presidential candidate.

In fact, one of those present at the meeting said the “matter was being compounded by comments of those pitching their tent with both Ribadu and Tinubu and, there, advised that comments to be made must be weighed thoroughly so as not to further create more confusion.”

The meeting acknowledged that the party was wasting precious time, while one of those in attendance noted that “the President is already traversing the entire country on campaign tour while we are here talking about the issue of running mate”.

One of those in attendance warned of the dangers of not “getting it right this time around because this is our last chance and if we fail, may be we should all go and join the PDP and accept that the PDP has conquered all of us”.

The ACN had in the interim slated one Stanley Ogochukwu as the presidential running mate. Ogochukwu choice, Vanguard learnt, followed disagreements over the definitive choice of a running mate. Normally reliable party sources told Vanguard, yesterday, that the substitution was going to be made within the next few days.

A top party choice told Vanguard: “I can confidently tell you that it is between Ngige and Ken Nnamani,” though other party sources cited the emergence of Akabueze as a potential surprise. Akabueze, a former top banker has been hailed for bringing professional expertise to the management of budget and economic planning in Lagos.

The party which is flagging off its presidential campaigns, Wednesday, has until next Monday, February 21 to alter its presidential ticket. It could not be confirmed, yesterday, whether the alterations would be made ahead of the commencement of the presidential campaign beginning with the colloquium in Abuja. The party is also expected to unveil its manifesto on that day.

Colloquium
The ACN in a statement issued by its National Publicity Secretary, Alhaji Lai Mohammed, said the decision to flag off the campaign with a colloquium, instead of the usual jamboree, was an indication that the party would make its campaign issues-based and ensure that all hands are on deck for the rapid transformation of Nigeria, once it is voted into power at the centre.

Mohammed said the colloquium would make it possible for Nigerians from all walks of life to make their inputs into the party manifesto and agenda, adding: “This manifesto and agenda encompass our contract with Nigerians. Therefore we intend to use the colloquium not only to present our programme to make Nigeria a proud member of the comity of nations, but also to ensure that Nigerians own the programme.”

Explaining the format, ACN spokesman said Chief Audu Ogbe will flag off the session with a brief overview of the party’s manifesto, after which speakers would take on each topic to provoke a debate – through discussions – that will at the end enrich the issues.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/02/intrigues-stall-ribadu%E2%80%99s-choice-of-running-mate/

I once dismissed the thought of a Ribadu/Ngige ticket as a non-starter, but today I decided to REALLY think about it.

I know that GEJ is currently sitting pretty on SE votes; however, knowing how politically savvy Ngige is, I don't know if I'm ready to bet against him. Yet.

Dr Chris Ngige is what I call a grounded, witty and dogged politician.

If Ngige joins this ticket, the battle will harden a little for GEJ, because suddenly, GEJ will start fighting for votes in SE, SW, and parts of NC. Suddenly this election could wake up to all kinds of possibilities.  Depending on how much votes Ribadu can garner in the far north, anything then becomes possible.

The scenario is almost too ideal to materialize though because it will mean that ACN is uniting SE and SW politically for the first time in ages.

Posted by: asha 2

is nnewi that populated judging from the picture?

Yes, the "nkwo Nnewi" area (in the picture) is.

^^

Nnewi

@topic

HELL NO.

@Ezeuche

I think that Bakassi case was not our business, so there is nothing to be shameful about. It was Nigerian business. If we had Biafra, then you can say that. We don't.

Young aboki.

@udezue

Don't mind that fat Womanliness namfaG. His favorite past time here is to make statements showing the capacity of his nama brain.

The truth is that aboki believes that only he can be violent and that because we are not rolling on the dust like the pictures, we are weak.

Igbo are basically like the Israelis. They hardly start a fight, but will return one ten folds. We can also conduct preemptive attacks.

Kill one Israeli, 100 Palestinians dead.  That is a model Ndigbo will adopt more against these useless people.

Posted by: fstranger3

^^^^

To you since he is Yoruba, he has ulterior motives.


Isnt that what you want to hear?

No go suck on Ezeuche's dyyck

Apparently you've not been on this forum long enough to know me well. You think everything must be tribal.

My hunch is that the man is an honest man. I could be wrong though. I want to believe that he is one of those rare gems who are above corruption. Knowing how Nigeria is though, I can't bet my live on that.

I started this thread to try to figure him out.