₦airaland Forum

Aigbofa:
LOL Ojakusi ko, Obatala ni.

I thought I'd get your attention.

marcdunu:
Onlytruth

Very soon you will learn that there is no need telling someone you have no control over to shut up.

Because they can go on and on and on and on and on and . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wasn't expecting you to stop.

I was saying it to point out to other Igbo readers about the self defeating and fallacious position you are taking, all in desperation to swing Igbo away from Jonathan.

There was a time I was anti-Jonathan as far as this coming election is concerned, and it wasn't even long ago. You can dig up my last months posts and see for yourself.

The difference between your strategy and mine is that I ALWAYS think about how my statements affect Ndigbo and what impact it makes. I want us solving our problems, not by unbridled and bitter dissent. But rather by calculated and thorough positions. It is not wise to kill a fly with a sledgehammer.

You can refuse to accept the Ohanaeze endorsement of Jonathan,but please don't destroy the Igbo family.

Enuf said.

I also heard that Michael Jackson's real grand-father was an Igbo man from Obosi in Anambra state. His name was Oja akusi (the flute never ceases playing).

Story had it that the day young Michael was born, the man ojakusi was busy playing the Igbo flute -Oja, as usual.

He took one look at Michael and named him Mmuo kelu or Mokelu -meaning "created by the spirits".

Where is that picture of Ojakusi sef. I had it last week.

Really, Michael Jackson is really Muokelu Ojakusi.

^^

Ya, I also heard that Michael Jackson's real grand-father was an Igbo man from Obosi in Anambra state. His name was Oja akusi (the flute never ceases playing).

Story had it that the day young Michael was born, the man ojakusi was busy playing the Igbo flute -Oja, as usual.

He took one look at Michael and named him Mmuo kelu or Mokelu -meaning "created by the spirits".

Where is that picture of Ojakusi sef. I had it last week.

Really, Michael Jackson is really Muokelu Ojakusi.

marcdunu:
A partern is emerging on how Jonathan will govern Nigeria, coup upon coup in all works of life all done behind the scene and it is unfortunate that Ohaneze has allowed itself to become the latest victim of this tactics.

It is the voice of Jacob, the hand of Essau.

From the attempt to convert FG employees to PDP delegates
To getting Ralph Uwechue to endorse Jonathan on behalf of Ohaneze only to get Imeobi to approve it retrospect 3 weeks later
To the locking out of Igbo personalities in Owerri
To plotting to install a new Chairman of Governors forum without the consent of Governors
To running for election on the platform of PDP against its zoning policy.

It is piling up and shows a President whose pass  time is to abuse and disrespect laid down rules.

This President is a criminal and Ndigbo must not follow Ralph Uwechue while he hijacks Ohaneze to pursue the agenda of his dumb South-South brother.

Ken Nnamani, ABC Nwosu, Jim Nwobodo and all those who do not support this madness by Uwechue must come together and publish a unified statement condemning the behaviour of Ralph Uwechue and his Ohaneze.

The bolded is my grouse with some of the anti-Jonathan elements on nairaland.

marcdunu, in the name of God, how do you say that Uwechue is a "brother" to Jonathan, but not a brother to the rest of Ndigbo whom he is leading? How did you reach that conclusion?

Honestly, dissent is okay provided it is conducted with common sense, and doesn't create a bigger problem than it is claiming to solve.

Nna if you don't know how else to campaign against Jonathan please SHUT UP.

You are insulting Ndigbo! 

alj harem:
it is only few northerners that pratices that
most northerners are peaceful except from the uneducated youths

This is a deceitful statement.
When you say "most" northerners, what is the percentage of educated northerners?

If I say most Igbos, chances are that about 80% attended at least a secondary school education.  So I can equate "most" Igbos with literate or semi-literate conduct. I cannot do that with northerners because the opposite is the case.
So, if most northerners are illiterate, then one can deduce that most northerners are murderers of unarmed women and children.

vicenzo:
@ alj harem                         see u talking about nigeria spliting dont let your blind leaders hear dat,at least not when the oil wells in the niger delta is still flowing.we left our property and ran for our lives before the war but that was then,we know better now,why have the part(biafra) when we can have the whole(nigeria);ever heard of native americans and their adventurous partners(the white),ahaa thats the kind of partnership nigeria signed wit us wen they forced nigeria on us,by the time we are through wit your lands we wil condem u guys to conservation camps.As for nollywood issue thats a blind arguement but then what would one expect from a blind people wit blind leaders,yes u got it,BLIND ARGUMENT,even the sons of oduduwa got so frustrated that they went and opened an okirika movie industry,Show me whatever industry that works in nigeria and i wil showl u a place an igbo man had made his mark,take it or die in jealousy like your forefathers did, the wisemen always come from the east.                      @ only truth                     nna dalu sor.

I won't support ANY talk of concentration camps because that can never, and should NEVER happen in ANY part of Nigeria. Ndigbo are not a wicked people. Our history is very clear on that.
Please tone down this rhetoric. I can understand your anger about Abokis lazy, murderous  and perfidious antecedents in Nigeria.
We are Nigerians now and will remain Nigerians.
But these people must learn to accommodate us (the way we are, not trying to change us to become like them ) because they forced us back into Nigeria. So I tell my Igbo folks to spread their wings and make hay in ANY part of Nigeria. Just remain fearless, strong, hardworking, disciplined and focused. Our continued success is guaranteed.

All these false prophets should be ignored.
They are seeking relevance.

EzeUche0:
I think that is Itchy and Scratchy from the The Simpsons. lol 

Same concept (cat and mouse), different names. "Correction" accepted. 

So where are those who said Uwechue was making a personal statement on Jonathan?
The man Uwechue is a seasoned diplomat with impeccable credentials. And attack on him is just wrong.
If anyone doesn't like Ohanaeze's endorsement, no one will force them on the day of elections. My position is that they are serving us (Ndigbo) very well.

Obiagu1:
In as much as I think that this is a plot by the Yorubas, something in me tells me that this might actually be the truth. Obasanjo might actually be the son of Igwe Onyekwelu and OBJ never heard of it until it was imperative for the Yorubas to do everything to come back to power soonest, then they revealed the untold secret.

There’s no smoke without fire, they say. People cannot just wake up and tell me that my father was a Hausa man and bring out a picture of a Hausa man that lived in my village the time I was born with perfect resemblance of me. Obasanjo testified that Igbos actually lived in his village.

Those guys won't smell power for a loooooooooooooooooooong time.
No short cuts for them.

naijaking1:
I beg tell them.
So, Olusegun Igbochukwu Obasanjo is Igboman. And of course Jonathan Ebelechukwu Azikiwe is also an Igboman. While looking for ways to deny Igbos their chance at 2015, don't also forget that Alhaji Shehu Sorochukwu Shagari, and Gen. Ibrahim Batanisi-nmiri Babangida are also Igbomen. Did you also say Alhaji Atufue-aku Atiku?

. My guy you are just hilarious. lmao.

kettykin:
Really being influenced by other people's opinion is a sign of inferior culture or cultural complex.

Given that ibos produce the highest number of graduates is crap.
Do ibos produse the highest number of Phds. Can ibos translate that into becoming africas R and D . Presently the chinese produce higher number of graduates than US and EU.
I am not sure if the have started producing higher number of Phds than EU and US .
Mind you competion is coming from the south south ( eventhough 30 % of ss is ibo)
As you can see china is not yest the R and D of the world. It is still silicon valley , stanford , havard , and MIT.

Going to school and producing graduates  is not enough, producing human capital is everything.

There is a real need for ibo enterprenuers to move the headquater of their businesses worldwide back to the east ( or R and D and sales department.

100% agreed.

The Enugu international airport will help in that regard. We are waiting to tap in.

guddsid:
ahhh-ahhh ! yoruba's make good amala and gbegiri now , shu i no lie na

Boy that your Tom and Jerry Gif is so hilarious!

alj harem:
DID u read the comment made about usread it and tell me if that is not annoying

Look, this is the problem we Igbos have with certain Nigerians. When someone says he is beating you in achievement and working to have you serve him, isn't that what ALL humans have been doing since creation?
Why does a possible Igbo domination of Nigeria elicit so much fear and hate?
Didn't you people dominate Nigerian politics for much of 50 years? Did any Igbo commit suicide because of that?
Why can't you serve me if I pay you? Is my money not solving your problems after you accept it?
This is the mindset behind all attacks against Igbo properties  in Nigeria.

I am a successful professional for instance, and I employ an illiterate northerner as "mai guard" or whatever. Tomorrow the slowpoke will start envying me and start thinking that I cheated him.
Where was he when I was focused and acquiring one university degree or the other?
Where was he when I was working for years to raise money?
Where was he when I planned and started my own business?
Igbo man believes in himself. Does he?  

He suddenly wakes up after I employed him (yes to serve me! ) to find out that Igbo man is dominating him.

This is our problem with certain Nigerians (I won't mention tribes now). But be rest assured that we will not let you steal our property again in Nigeria.  Just have that in mind. I don't care about anything else you think about Igbo man.  

alj harem:
sharrap dia ahah
u dey craze, who lie about nollywood

why who someone call other group of people slaves to them, are u thinking through your anus or foot

u igbos are just too proud as a ppl

i don't know hw the yoruba and my brothers accummodiate u in lagos and kano


the only reason why some ppl don't like ibos is because of statements like this

Go drink battery acid. slowpoke.
Your views about us is IRRELEVANT. We are moving forward, whether you like it or not.
For your information Nollywood is acted in Asaba and Enugu (most of the things), and by that I mean REAL Nollywood that captivate Africa and the world.

Lol @ "accommodating" Igbos. WE ARE NIGERIANS and will live in and dominate ALL parts of Nigeria if we can. And YES WE CAN.

mens dept:
My dear I disagree with you on this. Ohaneze is not that relevant. Please, lets not dash them "millions" to mobilize. 2nd, the chairman is not even talking much about 2011 but of 2015, just like in 1999 we were told by this same group that it would be 2003, then 2003 Iwuanyanwu and the Political Commitee of Ohaneze said no, wait for 2007, then 2007 came and its 2011, now 2015.

Its a game that we've seen before, and honestly, I'm not surprised that Ohaneze and Igbo Eze's in Northern/Western towns are not being granted assembly and patronage any more.

Those are NOT real Igbo traditional rulers. They are ROGUE elements who think they can spring up an igwe in foreign lands. Don't confuse them with Ohanaeze please.

alj harem:

so been proud is guy
calling others as slaves is alright to say
ibo boy i am not hausa
who hates ibos i don't hate them

You don't hate them, but you say this

alj harem:
and yes i am saying most igbos i have seen in nigeria are very very rich, bt ask urself this question, hw did they get this money??

i know u can't answer the question

Why don't you ask how other Nigerians make their money?
Why are you insinuating that Igbo money is tainted money?
Why did you try to lie about Nollywood?
And why do you think that Igbos will abandon their properties or that Hausa will "reclaim their property" in Abuja?

If you are an Igbo lover, we would prefer an open enemy. Nonsense.

By the way, you can be any tribe you want. I don't care.  It doesn't make you any less a bigoted Igbo hater.

jason12345:
onlytruth,

you are a very proud person. why are you abusing the hausa guy naw?

what vicenzo said was wrong!! how can my fellow country man say he will turn my western and northern brothers into slaves and you support it. .

alteast, i'm glad you have started embracing ONE NIGERIA

The "hausa guy" you are defending decided to say things he cannot pull off (obviously out of jealousy ) about Igbo properties in Abuja and I had to speak to him in "goat language".

alj harem:
sharrp dia,
which arewa did u turn turn to slaves, are u mad
u own 70% of abuja but if nigeria split do u think it will be igboland
[size=16pt]if nigeria does not split do u think the hausa would not reclaim there land[/size]

He also LIED BOLDLY below:

do you know [size=16pt]that 90% of nollywood movies are done in lagos or abuja ([/size]yoruba state, hausa state) look don't decieve urselves to try to get self esteem.
noolywood is just used by us to fool us lot to think u are rich.

I don't even want to address this quote below. He can believe whatever he wants. Provided he does not believe that Igbo will ever abandon any property to any group ANYWHERE in Nigeria.

u said igbos have houses in abuja and lagos LOL
before the civil war didn't igbos have houses in kano and lagos, and wat happen to them
so NEVER AGAIN TRY TO THINK IGBOS ARE THE MOST INDUSTRIOUS PPL IN NIGERIA BECAUSE THE MONEY PRODUCED BY IGBOS IS NOTHING COMPARE TO OTHER CULTURES. IN FACT TELL ME WHAT IGBO PRODUCE IN NIJA THAT MAKES THEM MORE SPECIAL THAT THE HAUSA AND YORUBA PLS LET ME HEAR your ANSWER

It is obvious that the "hausa guy" is a rabid Igbo hater. His mistake is that everything that will happen again in Nigeria must be like 1967-70. That is where he is WRONG because Abuja will not be abandoned to the so called north if ever Nigeria disintegrates.

It will become Beirut! 

alj harem:
so him saying igbos are the best and the most talented ppl is right!!!!!
keep dwelling in your in the past and be saying one nigeria
i support one nigeria but igbos just make seem is 2 nigeria
when to talk to an hausa man, they are very very arrogant ppl
and yes i am saying most igbos i have seen in nigeria are very very rich, bt ask urself this question, hw did they get this money??

i know u can't answer the question


so now u are crying one nigeria


l[b]ater it is biafra[/b]

and yet u ppl think u are clever

shame on you

Dude, you are just a dumb-a55 goat.

Yes we are saying ONE NIGERIA so that we can make you serve us! Can't you see? We win EITHER WAY. We secede, we win. We stay, we win. Get off your lazy a55 and work. You will not ride Nigeria like a horse again. Gerrit? Igbo man has come to stay. You cannot wish us away. We are YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE. 

You won us before, but we are winning you today. And we are only beginning. When we are done, you will not recognize Nigeria again. It will be a whole new nation where MEDIOCRITY [b]serves [/b]MERITOCRACY. The way God himself ordained it.
Learn to live with it. 

alj harem:
sharrp dia,
which arewa did u turn turn to slaves, are u mad
u own 70% of abuja but if nigeria split do u think it will be igboland
if nigeria does not split do u think the hausa would not reclaim there land


to sw
i laff when u talk about nollywood and bullcrip so u think it is igbos that made nollywood 
it just shows how dumb u are do u know that igbo actors are only 20-30% in nollywood
what about other edo, ijaw, itsekiri and yorubas that are there

do you know that 90% of nollywood movies are done in lagos or abuja (yoruba state, hausa state) look don't decieve urselves to try to get self esteem.
noolywood is just used by us to fool us lot to think u are rich.

u said igbos have houses in abuja and lagos LOL
before the civil war didn't igbos have houses in kano and lagos, and wat happen to them
so NEVER AGAIN TRY TO THINK IGBOS ARE THE MOST INDUSTRIOUS PPL IN NIGERIA BECAUSE THE MONEY PRODUCED BY IGBOS IS NOTHING COMPARE TO OTHER CULTURES. IN FACT TELL ME WHAT IGBO PRODUCE IN NIJA THAT MAKES THEM MORE SPECIAL THAT THE HAUSA AND YORUBA PLS LET ME HEAR your ANSWER

Sharap dia ewu Hausa!

The guy has a simple logic but in your usual gworo chewing idiocy you fail to see his point.
He didn't have to say it 'cos it is SELF EVIDENT. You will serve us whether you like it or not. This is ONE NIGERIA.

Nelson Mandela said that the greatest vengeance one can have on his enemies is to get them to serve him. As long as Nigeria remains( and it shall remain for ever more, Amen! ), you will serve us. You know why? Because we are STRONGER than you. We are also more hard working than you. We are even more intelligent than you.
If you dare try any nonsense tomorrow, you will smell your nyash.

Fcking grass-chewing goat.

Harbb:
I am a believer in an Igbo President anywhere, anyday. But it is sad to say that Igbos will hardly produce a consensus candidate because of greed. An average Igbo politician will always consider himself first before the zone (SE). Thats why it will be difficult for them to produce a president in Nigeria.
I was in Owerri 2006 when a meeting of all Igbo politicians was convened, particularly the presidential aspirants of Igbo extraction, to pick a consensus candidate for the presidential race of 2007. All the big wigs of Igbo politics were there. From Alex Ekwueme to Ken Nnamani (the then Senate President), Rochas Okorocha to Emmanuel Iwuanyanwu etc. But sadly, the meeting ended in a deadlock. Nobody was ready to step down for the other. So they could't speak with one voice. That has been the bane of the Igbos.

Pedestrian crap always used to short-change Ndigbo in Nigeria.

Don't worry about us. We'll be just fine. I have this nagging feeling that a day is approaching when Ndigbo will be the only group in Nigeria speaking with one voice. I bet you that then folks will start accusing us of clannishness or something similar. Igbo is highly evolutionary. I never thought I'll see a day when Arewa could not speak with one voice about a northern candidate. On the contrary, I am living to see Igbo really attempting to speak with one voice under Uwechue.

Andre na wa for you o! @ Obusonjo

AjanleKoko:
You mean the resume and write-up about Ndubisi Ekekwe? Pretty good. Good to read that he's reaching out to people at home, helping out in the way he knows how.
If there's any tribal slant intended, that interests me not.

No, I was REALLY interested in what you thought. You are one of the few folks here I respect their opinion.
I noticed the same thing about the guy. Everything in Nigeria has a beginning, including tribalism. If all Nigerians behaved like him, then there is hope.

AjanleKoko:
Dumbfounded?
Typical Naija write-up comment.

But what do you think about the topic?

I see an attempt to attack Uwechue and Ohanaeze as very laughable.

There is no way these attackers know what is best for Ndigbo more than Ohanaeze leadership.

And if the attackers think that Ohanaeze leadership should not be trusted, should we trust they the attackers?

If you say that your leader is talking nonsense, aren't you the one talking pure trash?
Only a fool points to his fathers house with a left hand.
I'm laughing.

Katsumoto:
Correct

I am not a fan of OBJ but you have to give the man credit for some of his skills.

Yea right. He is so skilled alright.
My point is that he is NOT in any way related to Igbo. He is a TYPICAL Yoruba man. Period.

mikeansy:
What will balance power is to demonise those behaviours and attitudes that have held us down in the last 50years, build respectable institutions and uphold the constitution at all times.

Remember what defeated Yar'adua and his cabal is the provision of the constitutions and the fact that Nigerians asked for the rule of law to be upheld. When you support Jonathan to hire a private militia, it becomes a precedent and legitimises use of private militia.

If unfortunately under PDP zoning policy a Shekarua incarnate becomes President and chooses to make a militia like Hisbah his private Army you can see that we will simply be heading towards Taliban Afghanistan.

Jonathan will not be President forever, be careful what you wish for.

I never said that Jonathan is starting a "private militia". Why are you twisting my words and being so alarmist?
I said that Jonathan may not have confidence in current military hence he wants to build a NATIONAL GUARD.
In the national guard of course he can mold it according to his dictates, but he will not stay there for ever. Nigeria is NOT Iraq or Zimbabwe. He is building a NATIONAL guard, not MEND. 

In any case, if he builds a military outfit that reflects Nigeria's best (from all regions) I can't quarrel with that.

jason12345:
my brother, i'm not blind .

ohaneze endorsed GJ a week or two ago. now, they are supporting IBB. all i would say is this below.

Dude, you see why I don't think you are honest about your fabled "Igbo-Yoruba" alliance.
Did you even read the original post? And did you follow this discussion? Where did you see Ohanaeze support IBB?

Are you careless or just being provocative?

mikeansy:
I find it amazing what you guys come up with sometimes. Who says if this is a private Army it will be used for the purposes you guys think it will be used for?

This is how dictators emerge, go and look at the History of Saddam Husein and Robert Mugabe . . . some group of people within their country thought these leaders were fighting their course until even they became victims of their authoritarian regimes.

All I will say is be careful what you wish for.

I couldn't see any other reason why Jonathan is installing a new army if not that he lacks complete trust and confidence in the substantive one. You would agree that Nigeria is too complicated to pocket like Zimbabwe or Iraq.
So, Jonathan cannot pocket Nigeria. All I see is an attempt to "balance power". The only question in my mind is whether he is charismatic enough to pull it off.
We already have all the security forces we need in Nigeria. If any is not working well, he can reform and equip it. Forming a national guard now only signify that he lacks confidence in the existing military.
Let's just watch how things unfold.

My answer to the Orji Kalus of Igboland is that they should stop trying to play with our intelligence.  

As far as I know, I cannot separate "Igbo interests" from "Orji Kalu's interest". That is the problem. I still cry out real tears anytime I see Aba or read about it in the news. If we never had a Peter Obi in Anambra state, we probably would not have know that Ndigbo can produce decent politicians. Orji tend to use our sentiments to advance his own causes.
If he loved Ndigbo that much, what happen in Abia state under him? Is Abia not Igbo? Charity begins at home biko.

On the issues he raised about Igbo relevance, I hope that Jonathan does not rig elections in the south east. If elections are free and fair, I have no doubt that Igbo will vote APGA more than other parties, at least at state and national assembly levels. That will give us almost all the Igbo states back. I hope that Peter Obi and other governors agreed and made that demand from Jonathan. Ndigbo might vote for him as president, but they will likely vote APGA for governorship and members of national assembly except where a governor is really good (like Chime in Enugu).

So, as long as elections are not rigged in Igboland, we will be fine next year.  

mikeansy:
^^^^^^

Appologies if I came accross as attacking you, that was certainly not my intention.

Just saying what you call wisdom may not necessarily be wisdom especially when it is a view you have held since you were 15.

However sorry if I came accross as abusive.

Bye.

There is nothing wrong with holding a view from childhood. When you grow up, you drop bad views and keep good ones. This one is a good view, so I kept it. Igwe bu ike.

My views are based on the Nigerian political REALITY. We Ndigbo can afford to argue ourselves to death if we lived in a separate Igbo only country or a country without  tribal or sectional politics. That is not the case.
Today, the south east is the most marginalized in terms of federal allocations, and representation. It did not happen overnight. It was a 40 year old process, during which we were busy arguing ourselves and our leaders to death while others made hay. If we can cultivate the habit of rallying round our leaders, we would be a force to reckon with in Nigeria, and all the marginalization will end.

Your apologies are accepted.