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Can you do something to the fusillade of pope elections threads? Its a waste of nairaland space.

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I said dont quote me!

Reyginus: What you just succeeded in doing is name the living cell in another language. A simple question will settle this problem.
Can you split an atom to an extent that any further splitting is not possible?

You can split an atom to its quarks. Quarks being charges of energy are unsplitable.

Oh pls christians, your god's forgiveness means to burn sinners forever in a lake of fire and that is just the perfect forgiving act christians are so proud of.

Reyginus: Your post:
there is nothing about a living cell that is
irreducible. Hence, there is nothing
like"irreducible complexity of its essential
components". What are the essential
components? Ribosomes that make proteins?
well they are made from RNAs, RNAs are from organic chemicals, combinations of inorganic
chemicals make up organic chemicals, mostly
C,H,O,S,N,P. The inorganic chemicals are composed
of constant composition of baryons, baryons
themselves are charges of energy in specific
ratios.

Yea, perfect.

Reyginus: Hmm. Are you suggesting I and Iredia must surely approach it from the same angle?

You really think I have time for your trolling? If you have questions, ask. If not, shut the f**** up.

Simply don't talk about your personal beliefs with them. Just live together as people but if they challenge you, then give them a hushing answer.

Ihedinobi: Ok. So we beat you up then. Cool.

Total waste of space.

Ihedinobi: Er, so who beat you up then?

Ask davidylan. He was the one who started this insa.nity and passed it over to your acquiescent self.

Ihedinobi: Why were you howling like a non-existent being beat you then?

Only people who believe in fairies would come up with such conclusion in the first place. A reasonable person would know better than think about a mute god.

Ihedinobi: Lol. What a classic case of misrepresentation. A dizzying rash of strawmen to discredit the Christian worldview. The terms are all there, the meanings are all out of whack. But it's ok. Even if all that was true, what court would you propose to arraign God before, mm? Is it your world, my man? Did you build it? Did you make it? Regardless, that video was such a false comprehension of all that Christ is about.

What nonsense. Now you want God to think for you? After accusing Him of trying to prevent you from using your intellect. You're confused

Its all BLA BLA BLA in an attempt to deny reality. Its so illogical I couldn't make any seense of out this dump reply of yours.

davidylan: why are you angry? Did God beat you?

He would if he could. sorry but a non existent being can't beat .

Ihedinobi: And would you recognize His nose if He did? How would you tell that it isn't the Flying Spaghetti Monster's nose or some Christian who built a spacecraft in the shape of a nose to fool you?

IT IS GOD WHO CLAIM TO LOVE US, DIE FOR US ETC.

IT IS HIS TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE UNDERSTAND HIM. IT IS HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO SHOW HIMSELF TO US IN THE WAY WE WOULD UNDERSTAND.

IT IS ALL HIS RESPONBILITY NEVER OURS.

musKeeto: Lol, I quite agree. Not some fake guys claiming attempting to do so, and failing woefully at it.

Exactly, if the rich skydaddy exist, let him poke his nose down for us to see. But before we can observe otherwise, all evidence point to the ABSENCE OF GOD.

[quote author=victor-NR-ceo]But,was evolution theory refuted to a win stance?[/quote]Evolution always wins. Its the only reasonable explanation to nature.

Religion and creation are myths and fraud.

Here is a video on the silliness of religion especially xtianity and islam. Watch, learn and stay firm in your atheism


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QecUUnLNSiY

Reyginus: Good you've seen the rationale. Can we now move to the number 2?

I have dealt with that too.

Check Uyi Iredia's posts and my replies above.

https://www.nairaland.com/1218773/how-accept-being-atheist

Hi Uyi, above is the link containing information ON HOW TO ACCEPT BEING AN ATHEIST.

read it and always lead a skeptical life, never be gullible again.

davidylan: Amazing... the atheists are in ecstasy.

The more you see posts like this the more you begin to regard evangelistic atheism for what it is... naked proselytizing for adherents. Indeed there is joy in the house of the atheists for every "christian" who reverts.

There is joy because more people are listening to reason and logic, leaving behind myths and wishes and becoming atheists.

Reyginus: hmm Don't pretend you don't know. Is 'repetitive design' and 'particular order' incompatible? Yes or No?

I think we are already clear on that.

Repetitive pattern = particular order and that is what we. Observe in nature, NEVER INTELLIGENT DESIGN.

Uyi Iredia: You are attacking a straw man. My concept of irreducible complexity is different from the one you are responding to. I said that IC systems can't work with a critical part missing and I gave examples which you bastardised with your talk of your heart still working if a cell was taken out. To refute what I say you have to show how a system can work without its vital components.

a "system" cannot work without its vital part, that doesnt mean it is irreducible. Besides, the human body didnt just pop into existence, that is creationist's view. Evolution support gradual development of all parts in previous ancestor.

This means that our immediate ancestors lack some part of our brain and organs, their ancestor also lack organs and parts found in our ancestors. This is why we are all different species in the first place

When offspring evolve (by mutation) a new gene coding for a new tissue or organ, that changes it from its parent. The parents did not have that particular new gene, but the offspring have it - making them separate from their parents - a process called speciation.

This is how new organs evolve, which if favors survival, gets passed down, if not, kills the organism. Little favorable mutations occur, hence the process of evolution is slow and relies on time.

[quote author=tpia@]it might be hard for her to be a christian, even though she was raised one, but she has to have her own knowledge of Christ. That's currently not present.[/quote]WE ARE ALL RAISED CHRISTIANS OR MUSLISMS BEFORE WE SAW THE LIGHT AND THE TRUTH OF ATHEISM

Uyi Iredia: Let's focus on 2 & 5. It is infact true that there is irreducible complexity in living organisms. The concept of irreducible complexity is that some systems are sso interconnected that the loss of a component will effectively break down the system. Take mammals for example, they need their heart, kidneys, brains etc. Or even green plants, without chlorophyll and other support structures they couldn't possibly survive.

Perhaps you dont understand the world "irreducible". I can take out a single heart cell from my heart, i will still have a functioning heart, and the cell i took off will still be alive and express genes expressed by the cells of the working heart. Every organ is reducible to tissues, every tissue to cells, every cell to inorganic chemicals mostly C,H,O,N,P,S. Every elements reducible to charges of energy. Energy is the only thing irreducible, it cannot be created or destroyed, its eternal and it cannot be terminated, neither does it radiate from any source.

So living systems are absolutely reducible and energy is irreducible.

Uyi Iredia: Now on 5. The brain happens to be a good example of an IC system. Without the brain cortex, cerebrum, cerebellum etc there would be no brain. Yet natural selection supposedly GRADUALLY built it up from scratch. This is impossible since you need to have the IC system intact from the start. The evolutionist argument that there could have been a gradual switch of function is false because it subtly assumes the IC system - by assuming a switch of function.

Well, you have forgotten that the IC itself was built from combination of other elements in that particular order that forms the IC. There is no irreducible element called IC, its combination of elements, elements themselves combinations of baryons.

so also is the brain, the different parts functions well but not perfectly. We can only respond to what our brain can read, for instance, we can't echolocate because our brains lack the tissue for echolocation, which is found in bats and owls. The cerebellum and other brain parts, though work well are results of combinations of differentiated nerve cells. Differentiation itself is controlled by cytoplamisc determinants found in the egg. Mutations in this determinants bring about enlargement or evolution of new brain tissue. Example of this is the rain man, the boy with the incredible brain - can do calculation of up to 25,000 decimals in his head etc. Such mutations in previous ancestor produced our brain.

well, its a mockery of intelligent design. The problem is that even if evolution was wrong, which God, among thousands of Gods truly created the world? That alone ruined intelligent design.

ok

she is just a teen and much more brilliant than all christians in the world to know that God is a myth.

YOU'VE DONE GREAT.

alexleo: shut up. Thats how you people fool around when you are confronted. You are free to remain in your useless believe for all i care.

dumb

anonymoux: The only prove tha the exist is that I exist, If i die, that has absolutely nothing to do with him.
And it means he still exist after all, the fact that I die, doesn't mean I never existed Mr man

Yes, wile you exist, your creator exists, when you die, you creator also cease to exist since its because YOU exist that HE exist. so if YOU stop existing, HE stop existing too.

Once you are dead, your creator becomes redundant.

BroRhema: a great choice huh?!

the only reasonable choice with evidence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6arhd4Kq1cI