₦airaland Forum

TotalRunter:
Those are the contrees that have bowed to islamic intimidation and blackmail and it worked. If you have any sense and any regard for the beliefs of others you'd advocate for banning of uniforms altogether and not special treatment for your religion

Do you think if the majority of the muslims in Nigeria are as intolerant as the christians, there will be any breathing space for christians? You will all be packed into one corner of the country - SE or SS.

The same people who force others to join morning devotion in whatever organization they own are challenging other peoples' freedom of worship. The same mentality I guess - it must be our way or nothing.

MMWandali:
Bound to fail

There should be diversity and accommodation for others

Not in Obi's world and his view

helinues:
Okupe is only whinnying.

Southerners as President and VP?? How

The dumbo just confirmed on Channel TV now that he is the VP, not a placeholder.

I laugh in fulfude

NaijaRoyalty:
Okupe s only standing in as a place holder till peter obi gets a running mate

Tinubu did the same thing

So, he didn;t have or know anybody in the north that could be used instead of Okupe?

Since the announcement of of Peter Obi's running mate (Okupe), I haven't heard any noise about how satanic and insensitive a christian/christian ticket is.

mystery22:
What are the nuisance trying to turn lagos to..
This people have a dangerous plan for the south west,now imagine when the criminal party finally wins on Muslim/Muslim ticket, fulani rule in Yoruba land will be solidify with the help of another afonja in tinubu

Do you know at all it was Lagos state government that appealed the judgment that approved the use of Hijab?

The court of appeal panel that ruled in favor of Hijab and against Lagos state government (appellant) had 4 christians as members and 2 muslims. The supreme panel that upheld the decision of the appeal court had 4 muslims and 3 christians as members. Therefore, it wasn't a muslim vs christian fight. It was purely based on fundamental rights of the people concerned and the judges discharged their duties without considering their religious affiliation. Kudos to them and by the way, I am a muslim and my kids don't use Hijab and won't regardless of this ruling except they want to use it on their own when they become adults.

Hopefully, this same display of seal for justice without bias by the courts as seen in this case wouldn't be missing when it comes to criminals cases especially those perpetrated by political leaders.

Ebubu4:
let us go on personal bet that Umahi will win his senatorial ambition and that apc will win ebonyi governorship next year.


100k bet, we'll give it to a reliable mod here

As the OP, give the money to me

PDP presidential candidate has picked Akowa as his running mate to the chagrin of many especially Wike and his supporters who had hoped to get the VP slot. What advice would you give to Wike?

Mine is, decamp to APC to spite Atiku and .... tighten the noose on PO

BlackFlamefromP:
wow! So the only imperfection Peter Obi seems to have is that he is 'stingy' - meaning he is a man who does not like wastage of resources, a man who knows how to economize and always prefer to give out money only to those who worked for it and truly deserve it.

If you ask me, THAT IS JUST THE KIND OF MAN WE NEED AS A PRESIDENT!

Vote for Peter Obi for better Nigeria.

What about the atrocities he committed while he was governor? He invested the state's fund is his family business. Who does that? How can you help yourself and your family with the state fund and you want to say you are helping the state? Roads are in terrible state across the state. He didnt see the need to put them in good condition for the benefit of the people.

We are voting en masse for Tinubu for his leadership acumen and the vision which has brought Lagos this far and making it enviable to even Tinubu's enemies. He increased the IGR profile of the state from N600m to N60B. He didn't take the money and invest it in his family business. He used the money to begin the infrastructural revitalization and rehabilitation in the state. Subsequent governors who are his boys have followed in his footsteps. This is what makes Lagos enviable to many of you.

WibusJaga:


Truth is most people who are financially prudent are usually tagged stingy by people expecting freebies.

He was Anambra state governor for 8 years. What did his prudence bring to the state? What unprecedented change happened while he was governor. The only thing I am reading about is the investment of state's money in his family business - which is nothing but fraud. He helped himself and his family with the state's fund even when roads were in terrible conditions across the state and the condition of an average anambrian hasn't improved.

okeysoninv:
meanwhile.

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slimfit1:
Lagos is spending only 20 per cent of her money on capital expenditures and recurrent the rest is stolen or shared between themselves.

Any proof?

Ogamysamo:
you have stated facts instead of just asking your question and go, why are you putting words in our mouth?
well from all being said thus far it seems all you know on focus on is that lagos will benefit alot from tinubu's presidency. he is for presidency not lagos' governor so tell us more about the benefits for nigerians at large

Today's focus is on Lagos. Another piece will be released within the week to address your request. Too much to talk about.

Pardon me if I sound a little selfish in this short write-up. At the end of the day, politics is all about what you hope to benefit by supporting a candidate or what you may miss/lose if a candidate other than yours wins. That said, mine is not particularly a selfish personal gain or rent-seeking but rather a collective one which would positively impact even those supporting other candidates. To go straight to the point, it is about the benefits that would accrue to Lagos, Lagosians, and even Nigeria in the event of a Tinubu presidency. When I say Nigeria in this context, I mean how a further developed Lagos would benefit Nigeria in general. Going by the 2016 census, the population of Lagos is 21 million making Lagos the most populous city in Africa. Virtually every state in Nigeria has one person or more living in Lagos. Therefore, any development in Lagos (economic, infrastructure, etc) will definitely trickle down to many corners of Nigeria.

While I don't want to monopolize this discussion, I want to front-load the following as potential benefits for Lagos if Tinubu becomes Nigeria president. Feel free to add more or present a different view.

- Special status for Lagos: A special status for Lagos is an agitation that has been on for many years. The PDP government only paid a lip service to it and ended up not doing anything about it. This would have attracted special federal spending to Lagos other than the meagre monthly subversion for a state that hosts Nigerians from virtually all the states of the federation.

- Dedicated power generation and distribution for Lagos: Power supply is another fundamental aspect of Lagos and Lagosians' life that would be improved by a Tinubu presidency. Tinubu had wanted to implement dedicated power generation and supply for Lagos with Egbin power plant by Enron but was frustrated by the then OBJ federal government. Given that power supply is getting worse in Nigeria general and Lagos in particular, a Tinubu presidency might be what we need to bring that dream to reality.

With infrastructural development and improved power supply, the economy of Lagos would improve and this would serve as a springboard for not only foreign direct investments, even local businesses will thrive as a result. Who benefits at the end of the day? Lagosians and other Nigerians including those in Alaba market, Ladipo market, Okota, Festac town, etc.

Please add more areas where you think a Tinubu presidency will benefit Lagos, Lagosians, and Nigeria in general.

PresidObi:
My brother, the people in APC and PDP are made up of youths who are also human, are prone to security threats, are jobless, homeless, hungry and lacking basic healthcare. The youths in APC and PDF are all sitting at home because of ASUU strike.

Everyone wants a change, there is no rope the APC or PDP used to tie Nigerian people that they must vote for them, hunger is more persuasive than party loyalty.

Day dreamers... You need to create a metaverse where Obi contests in a national election and wins to keep your dream alive.

duwdu:
@OP;

The majority of the opinions here antagonistic to your write up, is southern. One should not be surprised at that.

I say that because the large majority of the Nigerian press — and Cyberspace, is southern. And since, like you already mentioned, the south is majority christian, opinions — including those on here — would be largely skewed to the south, sometimes very aggressively.

To me, you've advanced rational and balanced arguments that are more representative of the thinking of the totality of Nigeria. An indirect proof of that is that the position favored or championed by the majority north, comes out on top literally 90% of the time.

So, I'll continue to wish that our folks stay and sleep well, based on these realities.

........
P34c3

Same here...

Oplomo:
SS where his wife comes from

SW christians

Middle belt.

Core north christians...

This is the way an average Igbo bigot thinks. Wike, Amaechi, Akpabio, etc will line behind Obi? And Asari Dokubo will join them to ensure victory for Obi?

In SW, even Oluremi Tinubu will vote for Obi because he is christian? These guys are too pedestrian in their reasoning.

Middlebelt will vote for Obi because he is a christian even when LP doesnt have a single Gubernatoria candidate there.

And how can a contestant bank on only the votes of religious/ethnic bigots to win presidency?

GreyLaw:
They have been sent to numb the minds of people to their planned wickedness. Even the guys in the core North are not speaking boldly about this M-M ticket. Yet fools from the South try to push it down our throat.

Honest Muslims don't even want such a thing, but some stupid Christians don't mind. When Buhari appointed all his kinsmen to major positions and alloted all the arm-bearing agencies to be headed by Northerners these same self-deluded chaps clapped for him. We see the results. Now these goons have come again to push the narrative a step further.

So, it is all about rent-seeking after all? Using religion to secure selfish gains and then going on air to start talking about how one religion is more Godly than the other.

GreyLaw:
You are not a Christian. And even if you were, you have zero knowledge about the existential realities in Nigeria.

Please go and sleep and let those who really bear the brunt of Fulani Herdsmen, Boko Haram, and all government endorsed atrocities speak.

How has the christian VP in the current administration helped? What did a christian president (OBJ) do about it? We don't need a christian or a muslim president to solve our problem. All we need is a leader who knows what it means and requires to lead a multi-religious entity like Nigeria, The person might even be an atheist or a buddist.

orisa37:
YOU ARE ANY OR ALL OF:-
MURIC,
ELRUFAI,
SHETTIMA,
SHERIFF MODU AND
FUNAM.

You didn't add ISWA to it

Tomek09:
There's no reality here since you deliberately ignored Kwankwaso's influence in NW. I wish Tinubu good luck in his M-M ticket.

Not mentioning Kwakwanso doesn't change anything. The battle ground still remains the north and whoever the APC chooses will determine the strength of the party there.

paramakina202:
Maybe,Muslims shouldn't take Nigeria christians for granted.Nigeria is not Kaduna state.
Why didn't Buhari choose Tinubu or any other southern muslim in 2015?
Buhari choose a relatively unknown pastor Osinbajo as VP and still win, what is Tinubu afraid of to balance religious equation like Buhari did?

If you don't know that the same calculation that produced Osinbajo as VP is what will produce a muslim from the north as the VP this time, then, I don't think we should continue to discuss this further. Buhari was widely accepted in the north (for whatever reason) and what they needed was a VP that will be acceptable to the majority in the "south" which is largely christian - SW, SE, and SS considered. This is what produced Osinbajo as VP. Picking a muslim from the south would have been catastrophic not because of any balance but because the battle ground (the south) was largely christian dominated. So, they have to appeal to their sentiment. For the 2023 elections, the SW is already on lockdown for Tinubu no matter who he chooses as his VP. The "our son" attraction will over shadow any religious considerations. And regardless of who Tinubu chooses as VP, SE will vote for Atiku and Peter Obi - that has been their way - even you didnt vote for Osinbajo. Tinubu will struggle to 10% of the votes in most SE states regardless. South south will be shared regardless of the faith of the VP to Tinubu. The battle ground (APC vs PDP) therefore is the north and who you pick there as VP matters and will determine the direction of their votes. APC will have to appeal to their sentiment there which is largely along religious line - it unfortunate but that is the reality.

paramakina202:
Muslim muslim ticket will end up like june 12.
They may win but may not rule.

They didn't rule because it was a muslim/muslim ticket?

sotall:
There is no fuse, no diode nor capacitor regarding Muslim-muslim ticket.


Let Tinubu try it first so we see where it will take him on election day

The Kaduna state situation was even more heated than this given the nature of the state. What happened?

The question you should ask yourself is, will his choice of VP change whom "YOU" are voting for? Will you vote for him if he picks a christian VP? You don't have to answer it because everybody knows the answer already.

If Tinubu picks a muslim VP. he is doing it to probably satisfy the interest of his potential supporters. How many christians are there in the north and how many of them will vote for him even if he picks a christian candidate.

It is a case of losing 10 if you pick option A and losing 30 if pick option B. Which one will you pick?

I am not a practicing politician neither am I interested in going into politics in Nigeria. However, I take interest in political activities both local and international. I therefore follow, with keen interest, the happenings in the political scene especially as it concerns governance and actions of the key players.

As the preparation for the 2023 general elections in Nigeria commences, we have seen the usual pedestrian issues rearing their ugly heads again. One of these is the rumored APC's preference for a muslim/muslim ticket. Many, especially, the "church goers" have been kicking against it. Even CAN, of all organizations, is also now showing interest in the faith of the potential VP candidate of a party they so much hate and have called different names. They want one of theirs to be given the slot I guess. They've been disturbing the airspace with the threats of a potential Armageddon that may engulf the country should APC decide to field a muslim VP from the north. And I ask, why all these fuss?

First, a political party would do what it thinks will give it the required votes to win an election. This is the first consideration and it has little or nothing to do with the love or hatred for a religion over the other. It is all about votes and votes. All of us, including CAN should know this before having sleepless nights over what we can't control and further heating up an already charged situation.

Second, religious business and politics have nothing, in the actual intents and acts, to do together. One focuses on God and hereafter, not worldly politics and the material acquisitions that go with it. The later is about crude worldly politicking with little or no regard for God and HIS instructions to us. Even though there is little or no difference between politicians and religious followers, in the actual practice of both in a country like ours, can we and CAN just pretend that we are different from politicians and our end goals are different? Leave the politicians alone to do their business while you focus on reminding them of what awaits them hereafter if they don't follow God's instructions to them. Part of God's instructions to leaders is to be fair to all and act only in the interest of the people.

Furthermore, what have we benefited from a muslim/christian ticket of the current administration and the ones before it? Apart from the personal, backdoor benefits and gains by religious leaders, the country has largely benefited nothing, on the religious front, from either a muslim/christian or a christian/muslim ticket. Sectarian violence continues across the country and even worse than when the military was managing the country. What has the current christian VP been able to do to prevent massacres such as the recent one at a church in Owo where "church goers" were gun down without mercy? What has he done to prevent a recurrence of the killings linked to blasphemy in the north? And what has the muslim president done to prevent the "mosque goers" from been blown up in their mosques and markets in the north? The demand for and assurance of good governance shouldn't have anything to do with the faith of the leader. Any muslim president/VP that can't prevent violence, whether it is targeted at christians or muslims, is not fit to be in that position. if a christian president/VP can't guarantee the safety of muslims, he or she is not fit to be a leader. It is a multi-religious country and whoever expires to lead such a country must first understand this.

Finally, we should all stop being bigots and refrain from heating up the polity. There is nothing evil or devilish about a muslim/muslim ticket, just as nobody should have sleepless nights over a christian/christian ticket. Political struggles and parties in a democracy are not designed around the well beings of any particular religious faithfuls. It is an arrangement to get votes to serve the personal interests of politicians first, and hopefully the country. And no political leader goes into an office in a multi-religious country like ours to incite violence against the practitioners of a religion he doesnt believe in. We have states where it has been a christian/christian ticket for decades - there are muslims in those states. And there are states where we have had muslim/muslim ticket - there are christians too in those states.

So, why are we heating up the polity over a muslim/muslim presidential ticket? Is this to ensure good governance, massage religious ego, or achieve selfish interests?

Let's get serious, guys!

Siwel25:
If this thread was about Tinubu, will U be saying he has improved? I've always said it that Obi is a well packaged scam that cannot stand besides Tinubu.. Who are the conmen packaging a failure as the Messiah?

Why are you wasting your valuable time and energy on these guys? No be Obi? He will score zero vote in many of the states outside SE. He has got nothing to campaign with. Is it not even an insult to compare a liliputian with an elephant? What will be the basis? Tinubu and Obi on a ballot paper

McStoic:
Epic fail. It's very glaring this one has never left the South West. If you have truly been to Igbo land, you won't be saying this nonsense. No be everything be cruise ooo. If you haven't been to Igbo land, ask those around who have been there. No tribe in Nigeria prioritises building houses in the village like an Igbo man. And I am not bragging..it's what it is..

Of course they prioritize building houses in their villages but in a rather disorganized way. They build houses/mansions inside bushes without even motorable roads to the houses. This should tell you I have been to the east. When I saw Kanayo O. Kanayo's house in his village, I laughed - deep inside a forest and was using cutlass to create a path to the house . Igbo people can't come together to create modern estates in each locality for those who want to come home to build house despite all they have learned from us in Lagos and elsewhere.

KoshCAD:
Mention one estate igbos built in Lagos

Have you ever visited the east? They don't build estates in igboland... they prefer living alone in the bush . No way therefore they would build an estate for themselves elsewhere. And they want to rule Nigeria and turn everywhere to a slum like Ariara market.

OsunOriginal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcipu056Qfw

Igbos are not ready... When they are ready they will bring the right candidate. Obi is a fraud.

Did you hear from your neighbor?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcipu056Qfw

VoteObi2023:
These are comments of our Yoruba brothers before Peter Obi moved to PDP.

Yoruba Youths have taken over Peter Obi Facebook support group.

SW is OBI-dient

The same old PDP supporters in SW... Keep deceiving yourself.

Igbo:
No single politician behind Pandora Peter Obituary
He is just a spoiler for Atiku

He has Igbo youths solidly behind him.... Obi Pandora will win