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Dtruthspeaker:
Come on now, NO MAN FROM EARTH CAN KNOW WHERE WE WERE BEFORE WE WERE BORN, EVEN HIS OWN PRE-BIRTH, HE DID NOT KNOW.

SO HOW CAN HE WHO DOES NOT KNOW HIS OWN PRE-BIRTH TELL ANOTHER, WHERE HE WAS, BEFORE HIS BIRTH? He Can Never!

Once in a century or in a millennium, some people can tell you this vividly. I happen to be among the very few who can do that and I have the history of my afterlife adventures with me. I will mention you in that link.

Both Islam and Christianity are jokes of the century @ DubLINGreenb. Their gods Jehovah and Allah are even currently in a spiritual cage while the eyes of humanities continue to open to the truth.

Sometimes we tend to think and ask questions in our minds that while all these religious propagations and indoctrinations were ongoing in the past, were there nobody to criticize these ideas and put them in the trash where they belong? Of course, some people did, but they were suppressed by those in authority and the religious fanatics too. People in the olden days are not all dumb. Many of them rejected different forms of religions outrightly, but since religion were used by the government as a tool, these people were taken off.

Here is an account of Philip Camus who discovered the errors of the Christian god.

Pivadra 13: 1-24
1. Philip Camus was a male philosopher born in the 281,245th year of the homo sapiens era, being the 1245C.E.
2. He was born in Toulouse in France. Now when Camus was of age, he attended the University of Toulouse.
3. Now Camus was a philosopher born to a christian family. His father was a Catholic, who observed all the tenets of catholicism.
4. Now when Camus was aged twenty, he picked the bible and read the old testament through for three times.
5. And he began to wonder whether what he had read was inspired by a devil or by God Almighty, the creator of all things.
6. Now Camus began to think deep and to philosophise, saying, if the god Jehovah which I have read about in the old testament is actually the God Almighty, then it means that God Almighty is a devil.
7. For how can a good being kill humans in multitude for every little provocation? He does not know the capabilities of his creatures such that he gets angry at everything they do.
8. Can a potter get angry with the pots he has made so much that he could not remould them to his own taste?
9. Now in those days, Camus began to tend towards Catharism. For in those days, the beliefs of the Cathars had pervaded the whole of France and many students of the university of Toulouse had even embraced it.
10. Now Camus had made an optical scientific lens with error purposefully, for he had thought to make something out of it.
11. And he argued amidst the religious ones, saying, this lens shows blurred image. What should I do to it?
12. Now many of the people answered him, saying, modify it and make it good according to your taste.
13. Now Camus got angry with the lens and smashed it on the floor such that it got broken. Then he trampled on it and set fire on it.
14. Then the people said, Camus is mad. For how does he get angry with what he made? If it is bad, is he not the person who made it?
15. Now Camus said, that is a demonstration of the behaviour of the god which I have read about in the old testament.
16. He was furious at his creations, destroying them with flood instead of expunging evil from their minds.
17. I once tended towards Catharism because of this absurdity expressed by this old testament god. But I reviewed the new testament god also and found him even worse.
18. Therefore I have now declared my irreligiousity and I would rather be an agnostic.
19. Now the Catholic students of the university of Toulouse began a riot and Camus was crippled.
20. And there was a quick intervention by the authority of the school, for the Cathar and the Catholic students had already begun an uproar, maiming one another.
21. Now Camus was expelled from the university of Toulouse and his record was completely obliterated from the school record books.
22. Now Camus went to Albi to continue his life there as a disabled. And he died at the age of thirty years, for he was neglected by even his parents and siblings for being a heretic.
23. Now Camus wrote books on astrology, astronomy and physics while he was in the lowly and deserted house in Albi.
24. He also wrote philosophical texts of millions of words, but his texts could not get noticed in his contemporary time, for he was a reject.

Conscious in other afterlives(for reincarnated beings) or
Still unconscious within the INNERMOST UNIVERSE of God Almighty(for first timers).

Dtruthspeaker:

It was his religion to uphold Thinking sorry philosophy!

And your own religion is to uphold unthinking soured religion abi? You are religionalising natural philosophy, just as you people religionalise atheism and freethinking
Kontinu.

Roger Bacon was born when religion was suppressing scientific knowledge globally. He observed that religious method is only a two-way thing, which are light Observations and Conclusions, which always led to fallacies. So he emphasized the use of scientific Methods such as Observations, Hypothesis, Experimentation etc before arriving at a conclusion, unlike religious methods which jump to conclusion immediately after observing an incident.

Read about Roger Bacon here:

Pivadra 12: 1-43

1. Roger Bacon was a great philosopher and a scientist born in the 281,218th year of the homo sapiens era. Which is also the 1218th year C.E. in Somerset, England.
2. Now Bacon began to fall in love with nature when he was aged seventeen years, because he had begun to discover some secrets of nature.
3. Now Bacon said, the nature of nature can only be discovered by thorough observations and experimentations.
4. So Bacon began to say, over many years, we humans have jumped into conclusions without observations and experimentations.
5. And we have arrived at wrong conclusions like the very religious ones. Rather, let us separate scientific knowledge from religious ways.
6. Let us observe all things first, question them and then let there be hypothesis drawn.
7. After then can we carry out experiments to see if our results are coherent or not.
8. Then can we draw conclusions from the analysis of our results. In this way shall we be able to conquer fallacies which are common with humans.
9. For the fallacies of generalising hastily as well as the fallacy of popular prejudice and submitting to the people in authority shall be well conquered by this method.
10. If we have heard that there is a stone which could turn everything to gold, it is befitting of humans and great thinkers to acquire such stone and let it be subject to experimentations.
11. But if such stone is not brought forward to be experimented on, then shall we dismiss it a mere myth and superstitious beliefs.
12. Now many thinkers accepted the views of Bacon and many experiments were conducted in those days to ascertain facts and establish laws of nature.
13. However, no one brought forward the philosopher's stone and other objects of supernatural claims to be experimented on.
14. Therefore Bacon considered them as mere myths and heresay.
15. Now in those days, the fame of Bacon went far and wide such that Clement IV the pope sent for copies of his works for scrutiny.
16. For the religious ones often suspected the early scientists of witchcrafts and sorcery.
17. Now when the pope had checked his works, himself found them convincing enough. And he said, as long as Bacon does not call us out to perform experiments on our relics and all our religious objects, then he is safe with us.
18. But if he derails and suddenly start putting his hands in religious things, especially in Christianity our religion, he shall not escape being persecuted and killed.
19. For we cannot count the number of philosophers whose blood we have shed already, because they speak things contrary to our doctrine.
20. Now a time came that Bacon began to dabble into discussions concerning spirituality and he joined himself to the Franciscan order in Oxford.
21. Now reports came to Clement the pope that Bacon had begun to teach heresies and many Christians had become his followers.
22. Then the pope said, I trust that Bacon does not mean evil to our religion. I have spoken with him concerning many things in the past and I can tell you that he is someone that could be trusted.
23. Have I not read all his works? And have I not checked his optical lenses? All these things are product of good thoughts.
24. Therefore let Bacon be left alone, for I stand as a surety for him that he does not mean any harm to our religion.
25. And who knows if it is even our god that has sent him to us in this generation?
26. So did Clement continue to support and protect Bacon until his death. Now when Clement had died, all the Christian leaders gathered and they made laws, saying, let all philosophers be identified with a religion, or else they shall be punished and even put to death.
27. Let also every aspect of philosophy which does not agree with the bible not be discussed.
28. For how can some philosophers propose that it is impossible for hell fire to have effect on human souls, since humans will have no body to feel pain in the afterlife?
29. And how can some people philosophise that our god cannot know more than himself?
30. And some even philosophise that if there is anything called God, then it does not intervene in the things of the universe as our god does.
31. Now many philosophers were killed in those days while some were excommunicated for refusing to stop their arguments against biblical doctrines.
32. Now these were some of the names of the philosophers and early scientists who were killed between the year 1270 and the year 1279 when the laws were made:
33. Phillip Camus, Nicolas Huntelaar, Matt Lewis, Stephen Lombard, Conolly Jude, Achilles Ascoli, Bartholomew Totti, Desailles Deschamps, Phil Lacazette, Selis Durham and many others.
34. And many were also excommunicated and many banished from their towns.
35. Now in those days, Bacon was summoned before the religious leaders headed by Jerome, a man from Ascoli, and they said, we will not kill you, neither shall we send you on exile.
36. But you shall be closely watched for three years to see that you do not participate in any philosophy contrary to the bible.
37. But if you choose to practise Christianity, you shall be absolved of this judgement.
38. Now Bacon said, what I am in the mind is what I can present outwardly. I am a freethinker in the mind, therefore I cannot pretend outwardly to be a christian.
39. Now they took Bacon and confined him in the house of an old monk called Timon, who lived in Ascoli.
40. And they set watchers after him to watch him every day and night. Now after three years, Bacon was released, being very old and frail in his physical appearance.
41. And they said, let him go back to his home, for it is certain that he does not have much years left for him to live.
42. Now when Bacon returned to his home in Oxford, he continued to write some of his abandoned texts, even though many of them had been missing.
43. Then Bacon died after having written many books on philosophies, astrology, mathematics, physics and even theology.

Sometimes we tend to wonder if there are no Africans wise enough to speak against colonialism and slave trading when it came rocking us in Africa. Actually, some people opposed these oppressions but they were suppressed. But the Book of Universal History is making them known. Their hidden voices are being revealed.

Here is the case of Musa Koulibali
Pivadra 9: 1-27

1. Musa Koulibali was a great philosopher, born in the 281,178th year of the homo sapiens era, also called the year 1178C.E, in Timbuktu now found in Mali.
2. Now when Koulibali began to grow, he began to ask questions, because in those days, many Muslims from the Sahara began to enter into the land.
3, Now Koulibali had reasoned deep and then he said, why is Timbuktu trading themselves for salt, cowries and beads?
4. We, being blacks, give ourselves to them as slaves and in return they give us salt and cowries.
5. Can salt be valued as much as human lives? Now brothers and sisters of Timbuktu, let us reject slavery and slave trading in its entirety.
6. Now when Koulibali spoke this to the hearings of Sundiata his friend, who was the heir to the throne in those days, he went to his mother Sogolon and told her, saying, mother what have you to say about the owning of slaves?
7. Are they not humans as we all are? Why are some made to be slaves while some enjoy palacial treatments?
8. Now Sogolon said, son where did you hear this manner of reasoning from? Why do you think like a common man?
9. Should we not have slaves and trade them also? What difference are we from the common people if we do not have slaves, gold, cowries and beads in abundant?
10. Sundiata my son, now tell me who has influenced you to speak in this manner?
11. Now Sundiata the prince perceived that his mother wanted to do harm to the person, so he did not tell the queen who it was.
12. Now the queen spoke to five of her servants, saying, watch Sundiata and let me know from whom he learns his ideas.
13. For he does not reason like Konaté his late father, the great lion himself.
14. Now when the servants accompanied Sundiata, he stopped at the home of the wise man, Koulibali, who began to teach him great philosophies and wisdom.
15. Now the servants reported to Sogolon what they had seen, so she went and told the king of Mema what she had observed.
16. Now the King of Mema sent men to go and arrest Koulibali, then he was arrested.
17. Now when Koulibali was brought before the king, he was charged with speaking vile words against the authority of the land.
18. And for corrupting the mind of the foster son of the king, he was charged. Then Koulibali said, O king, do not blame me, for I speak what is true.
19. For it is not good that we should sell our own kinsmen and race to people of other races as slaves. What respect shall come to our kingdom in that manner?
20. We give them more precious things in exchange for less precious things. Can you compare gold and human lives with salt? We give them gold and humans, they give us salt in return.
21. How is the trade balanced at all? So great king, consider my reasoning and let us cut our trade ties with these Saharan people.
22. Now the king of Mema said, my ears are full. I have heard enough from you. You shall be beheaded for speaking boldly against the culture of the land.
23. Now Koulibali was locked in a prison to await his judgement.
24. Now when Sundiata discovered what was done to Koulibali, he pleaded with the king to release him.
25. Now the king said, the transgression of Koulibali is beyond me. It is a transgression against the whole kingdom and its culture, not just against me.
26. Now while Sundiata planned to secretly take Koulibali out of the prison, he was found dead, because the king had sent two of his servants to suffocate him to death secretly.
27. So was Koulibali silenced in those days for speaking against the imbalance in the trade by barter done by his people with the Saharans.

afrodoc2:
For a very big laugh I have to laugh in the most high....... Just the way I would laugh if I was very high.

How can I be the most high. Jehovah is the most high, according to their songs. I don't even high at all, but I'm the highest of all gods of history presently sha.

afrodoc2:
You guys have a committee of clowns in central defence but think the problem is in attack.

I laugh in OtemAtum.

Don't laugh in me, laugh in yourself like this

Averroes was a fearless man in those days. He confidently criticised religion, especially the Islamic religion. He also predicted a time when Jehovah and Allah will be seen as irrelevant in the views of humanity.

Pivadra 8: 1- 41

1. Averroes was a great philosopher born in Cordoba in Spain, in the year 281,126 of the homo sapiens era, which is the year 1126C.E.
2. Now in the days of Averroes, the works of Al-Ghazalli, a critic of pure philosophy prevailed in the Muslim communities.
3. Now Al-Ghazalli, who died only fifteen years before the birth of Averroes was a critic of pure philosophy. Rather, he supported Islamic philosophy which he found as the only true philosophy.
4. But Averroes, before acceding to the seat of the judge of Cordoba, had studied many philosophies and had found the works of Aristotle as the only one matching his own thoughts and philosophies.
5. For when Averroes had checked through the Quran and other Islamic texts privately, he found them lacking in morals, ethics and humanities.
6. And Averroes wrote some points against the Islamic philosophy in his papers, saying, why should the maker of the earth command jihad against other believers? Why should Mohammed the founder of Islam take a little girl and deflower her, then making her his wife against her wish?
7. Why should the creator of the earth be so like humans in reasonings and ability? Why is the quran not extraordinarily better than other philosophical books if it is actually written by God Almighty?
8. Why does Allah not address this issue of slavery which is at this moment seen as brutal and cruel by many wise ones, even among those whom we term kaffir?
9. Now after Averroes had written these texts, he kept them secret and resolved to follow and promote the teachings of Aristotle rather than the philosophies of Mohammed the founder of Islam.
10. Now Averroes attempted to bring philosophical reasonings to Islam, for he wanted his people to reason things out rather than foolishly following all the texts of Islam.
11. Now Averroes stood among the people and said, I am not against Islam, but I am against lack of reasoning by Islamic scholars.
12. Let all scholars of Islam be reasonable enough to be rational in their thoughts and let every unreasonable stories in the quran be rather treated as allegories.
13. I say this because the quran seem to have been corrupted, having passed from the hands of one caliph to another. From the hands of Abu Bakr to another and to the hands of Uthman and others after them.
14. And many unreasonable things had entered the quran by such.
15. Now the scholars in the school of Ashari attacked all forms of philosophies, saying that it is only the Islam philosophy that was right.
16. And they spoke against Averroes for trying to promote western philosophies and the ancient philosophies above Islamic philosophies
17. Then Averroes said, before quran was made, these philosophies had been made. How can you criticise them all and give credence to only the Islamic philosophies?
18. If we Muslims do not learn to recognise wisdom in other philosophies, we shall eventually end up not being wise enough to grow in knowledge with the rest of the world.
19. And we shall be held back by our own rituals and superstitions. It is simple enough to discard whatever islamic idea which do not resonate with logical reasonings.
20. But you followers of Al-Ghazali have refused to see reasons in other philosophies, how then shall you grow intellectually?
21. What does Al-Ghazali your role model hold against philosophers other than the fact that they are not Muslims?
22. Can we say that Aristotle, Socrates and many other great philosophers of old times are entirely false because they do not hold the belief of Islam?
23. This is of course foolishness, because Islam is not the only religion in the world, therefore its knowledge does not necessarily have to be generally accepted.
24. Now it is better that we recheck and modify the works of the quran whenever it seems that philosophical conclusions are in contradictions with them.
25. And also for the Christians, let them recheck and modify the works of the bible whenever they appear to contradict the conclusions reached by philosophers.
25. Now these sayings of Averroes angered and provoked both the Muslims and the Christians in many parts of the world.
26. And they had grudges with Averroes, thinking to lay their hands on him. But for the high position of Averroes, being a judge, it seemed difficult for them.
27. Now when Averroes had seen how the religious people reacted, he said further, philosophy is the best method of passing knowledge and understanding and not religion.
28. For philosophy creates room for questions and give possible answers after series of practicals, but religion only creates room for questions and does not have an answer to give, but jumps to conclusion instead.
29. Now around that time, Abu Yakub the caliph died and Abu Yusuf his son became the caliph. Now Abu Yakub the late caliph had believed very much in all the sayings of Averroes, which was the reason Averroes had been protected from attack earlier.
30. But Abu Yusuf his son surrendered to the pressures of different cabals to release Averroes to them to be tried, therefore he released him to his various accusers to be tried.
31. Then Averroes was tried and exiled to Lucena. They burnt all his works concerning Aristotle and other philosophers.
32. Now Averroes continued to philosophise in Lucena. Then a day came when Abu Yusuf disguised and went to see him.
33. Then he said, do not be afraid Ibn Rushd. I have come to restore you back to my court, because now I am strong enough.
34. My father had said before his death, Yusuf my son, do not let Averroes the qadi get hurt. Rather, reward him and learn from his wisdom. For he is a wise man with many secrets.
35. Now I have come to you to learn some secrets which are unspeakable.
36. Now Averroes said, for secrets I have many. For I have met the light and I have known what is true from what is ideated.
37. And I can say to you with authority that religion is ideated and natural knowledge are true. We cannot say it publicly now, but a time will come when it would be made public.
38. And what we see as God Almighty now shall be seen as even a little dot or a speck out of the unlimited magnificence of God Almighty.
39. But can we declare it now and go scot-free? No caliph, for the time to say it is not now.
40. So Abu Yusuf sent Averroes to Marrakesh and honoured him. Now Averroes died when he was 72 years old and was buried honorably.
41. Now till these days, many philosophers admired Averroes for appreciating philosophy and putting it ahead of even Islam in religion without having the fear of being killed by the violent ones in Islam.

It is 996 years 1 month and 1 days left for Jehovah to remain in his spiritual cage. Churches are still shut and eyes are opening gradually.

It is 996 years 1 month and 3 days left for Jehovah to remain in his spiritual cage. Churches are still shut and eyes are opening gradually.

Jehovah has spent 3 years, 10 months, 3 weeks and 4 days in his spiritual cage. Churches are shut and eyes are opening daily.

obembet:
I wish Chelsea and Manchester united lose... Let those small team win.

So that Chelsea will not qualify for the UCL abi? Alakoba

funso111:
may God help you sir/ma but I am not disappointed in your comment.1 Corinthians 1:18-19 is addressing someone like you.so in you mind u think this world has no custodian.

Thank you very much for sharing a foreign book with me. I also have our local book to share with you. It's the book of Eta-n-tagba

Eta-n-tagba 13:1-3

funso111:
may God open your understanding. The ONE AND ONLY GOD is the God that has this exclusive characteristic. THE GOD THAT BRING SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING. Tell me any body that has that feature. ONLY GOD can CREATE.HUMAN BEING CAN ONLY PRODUCE.creation is when u bring out something from non.scientists use what was given by God to perform there wonder.all inventors build on something to produce but God don't build on anything but from nothing.Please read the theory of "first cause". in philosophy lastly there are more misery to the scientist on this world compare to what God allow them to know. SEEK HIM BEFORE IS TOO LATE

We are not opposing one another. As a matter of fact, you are asserting what I already know. Science is a subset of God Almighty. God Almighty is the TOTALITY of Existence. Whatever things invented by science is from part of the things in Existence, therefore it is a product of God Almighty which created Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Vishnu, Olorun etc whom human beings have been spending their entire lives worshipping. Peace

BackllGodNaija:
Lol! Let's clap for science your god for only discovering of recent a virus that has existed for several years, maybe it didn't exist before then lol!

Science discovered it recently. Has your religion ever discovered it?

[quote author= ]Let's clap for science your god for being almost useless when the most scientifically advanced nations on Earth needed it's help the most, as they were helpless to stop the deaths of hundreds of thousands of their citizens...[/quote]At least science helped in curtailing its spread to some extent and some drugs were even used to help some people recover faster. Also ventilators help a lot. What did religion do? Nothing

[quote author= ]let's clap for science for copying from God for the little it was able to use to help those nations...[/quote]There's nothing in Existence that's not part of God Almighty. Science is not the opposite of God Almighty, rather it is the most concentrated part of God Almighty in developing the universes.

[quote author= ]let's also clap for science for making the so-called religious and scientifically backward Africa to be able to contain covid-19 more than the their scientifically advanced counterparts... science is really winning from the back lol![/quote]Our hot weather helped us a lot. Also, the wide margin between the rich and the poor help us too. For example, how often does a poor or an average man get to meet with the extremely rich people who have the Corona Virus? These extremely rich people had the Corona Virus, but because they are far from us, they could only spread it among themselves. Assuming the common men and the rich people meet frequently in our country, by now the Virus would have gone viral beyond imagination. Also, our hot weather is a good factor in putting the virus to check.

By the way, you said nothing about the picture I asked you to show me of the person you said was in a cage...or maybe that's a confirmation it's just a figment of the imaginations of your wasted brain which God gave you.[/quote]

Ok

Image123:
You should be intelligent enough to know that when i say God, i mean the real God that you think of every day.

What's the meaning of real God? The Totality of Existence is God Almighty. Anything else are mere subset of Existence.

BackllGodNaija:
Speaking of someone whose god science got outfoxed, outsmarted, outmanoeuvred, humbled by the tiny Covid-19 now claiming to have caged someone much bigger, greater, and more powerful? That's what a brain can do, fantasize about the realistically impossible. Why not just show us for once just a picture of what you've boasting all over the place for some years now, if it's not only a figment of your imagination? But if you can't do that, keep wasting your God-given brain on figments as such, if you yet choose to.

It's obvious who or what was humbled by Covid-19 between religion and science. Let's do the analysis:

Science discovered the Covid-19. Religion would have thought that it is a demonic attack on humans.

Science invented the preventive measures. Religion have to obey it.

All scientific inventions and facilities were put to use to curtail the disease. All religious gatherings were shut down because of the disease.

People infected were taken to scientific hospitals and isolation centres. All religious gatherings are shut down.

Scientists used drugs to make people recover faster. Holy water, morning water, evening water, olive oil etc are shunned.

And it goes on and on...

Now tell me which is winning, Science or Religion

Image123:
imagine a God saying this? Maybe we should also say God's work is ongoing na.

God's work(Existence) has always been ongoing. You can see the dynamics in everything in the universe.

VLTA:
Where are you from? Curious to know more about you.You need help. I can sense something about you I can't just lay my hands on.

I know you will come to your Saviour someday. You can't and won't die this way bro

It's normal to think that I need help, because it's shocking to you that we could encage your god Jehovah and other beings like him who want religion to keep ruling the earth. It's a matter of time before people start knowing who really needs help between you and me.

Image123:
So have you saved the world from mental slavery?

It's a gradual process. It's ongoing and will keep going on.

VLTA:
Exmilitant don't listen to this guy.

Why?

[quote author= ]Well I have said enough to you.

I pray that God who has began a good work in you will bring it to perfection. That you may obtain mercy from Him and grace to come to His saving knowledge.

May it be well with you.[/quote]One thing I'm wishing you is for the Light of God Almighty which created Jehovah to shine on you and reveal the truth of the universe to you, so that you can stop worshipping Jehovah, a caged god. Peace

Lol at MaryAnwuzia
You don't sound like the daughter of the sick man at all. His daughter won't be ranting this way. To cap it up, your grammar doesn't look like that of a lawyer who lives in the USA. Wishing the man quick recovery through science anyway

Exmilitant:
i have been reading your posts on this section and you seem to be harping Jehovah, Allah etc being caged. I have also heard stories of imprisoned gods. Now let me get you answer on this question before i continue, is there a supreme being that other gods obeys and worship?

At first, there was an energy source with consciousness which is called the Highest Consciousness. Then this energy source disintegrated into Existence. The Existence is what we have today, such that this Existence is you, me, all early beings, plants, animals, gases, water, infrared rays, ultraviolet rays, etc. The Totality of Existence is God Almighty. However, living beings do not become consicous all at once. Some became conscious before others. Those who became conscious first are the ones I refer to as EARLY BEINGS. At a point after the early beings came into the UNIVERSAL consciousness, the CONSCIOUSNESS of the TOTALITY OF EXISTENCE(God) appeared to this early beings called Jehovah, Atum, Allah, Olorun, Nzame, Chimides, etc. Then shortly after, this CONSCIOUSNESS diffused back into all things in Existence, such that since then till now(billions of years back) this Highest Consciousness did not appear as a being anymore.
Then the early beings like Allah, Moloch, Ahura Mazda, Jehovah, Atum, El, Enlil, Enki, etc began to form early humans on earth. Some other early beings didn't even come to earth here. They went to far away planets within the universes. All they did was to construct the body, then souls came into the bodies they constructed. Then we had the anakims, homo erectuses, neaderthals, etc.

After life went on for millions of years, the world of these neanderthals and homo erectuses ended. I also experienced life as a homo erectus back then. All the early beings had even left the earth before the world of the neanderthals and homo erectuses ended.

Now at the beginning of this present world of the homo sapiens, it became impossible for all these early beings to come physically to the earth. They can only be here through reincarnation as human form into it. This homosapiens world began with few living souls who found themselves on mountains and valleys all over the earth surface. Then these souls reproduced until we have this explosive population all over the earth.

VLTA:
You will turn to the Lord Jesus someday. I just hope it won't be too late for you then to have the privilege of working for Him on earth as you are doing for the devil now.

Lol, this is what you asked me to ponder upon. Okay no p. Let me 'emotionally' ponder on it.

VLTA:
Distorted perception and misrepresentation of truth and facts.
You err in you perceptions and that certainly won't be without a demonic influence.

The constellations are subject to the divine will and power of the Creator from which all things proceeds. In Him we exist, live and have our being, yet He is as distinct as though He alone exists. By His Word the universe, the galaxies are suspended and pinned to their axis. He manifest Himself in a Tripartite nature. Jesus Christ being His human like manifestation that came to die for the redemption of man.

Ponder on what I said to you on the other thread.

You're bringing me back to religion which is just a very little and insignificant fragment of God Almighty. Jehovah, the god you are even talking about is currently in a spiritual cage where the gods of science have subjected him to. You're also talking about fictitious Jesus as if I Otem do not know the truth origin of this character. You can only tell these stuffs to people who are not versed in spiritual matters, not to a god like me who has come to the world with the histories of many universes in Existence.

Let me go and check what you said in the other thread and see if it is worth pondering upon.

You don't need to search for God further because it is the TOTALITY of Existence. Everything in Existence is a part of God Almighty. You and I are also parts of God Almighty. God is everything in Existence.

Dtruthspeaker, the post below is the second reincarnations of Yahweh your god into the earth. Read the account below:

18. Moses (mosheh/Yahweh) was a male homo sapiens born in the 278,572nd year of the homo sapiens era, which is also the 1,428BCE.He was born in a land called Ur. Now in the days of Moses, the gods and goddesses whom the people worshipped were El, Sin, Baalim, Asherah and others.
19. When mosheh had grown, he left the land of Ur and went eastward with his family to begin a life somewhere else. When many people began to join the land and his wives began to give birth to children, he said to them, I will go on a long journey and I will return when due.
20. For this kingdom which I have set my eyes at making shall be great.
21. Now when mosheh(Yahweh) was wandering in the wilderness, he fainted when he had no strength left in him. Then his consciousness was translated to another realm where he saw many strange people. Then one named Moussa appeared to him in that realm, saying, I am your guard.
22. Your spiritual name is YHWH(Yahweh) and you have done great things in the past world, but in this world, you have achieved less. But you are reincarnated into it so that you may go and rule it from generation to generation, according to the wish of all gods for themselves.
23. Now mosheh said, what do you want me to do? Then Mous-sa said, you are named mosheh as a combination of my name Moussa and your name Yahw-heh, so that by the power of us both, you can operate in dual wisdom and knowledge.
24. Do not see yourself as inferior to me, for when the body is taken off, there is no inferiority in the matter of the souls except a soul makes himself inferior to another. Everyone is a god, no matter the limitation which the body gives.
25. For the soul is the god and not the body. And it is the soul that will explore the afterlives and not the earthly body. Now go and operate and conquer. But first, you must find the things which El, one of the past scribes and the deity has written in the tablets. This shall you modify and make name for both you and I.
26. Find the tablets of Sargon also, he who was called the king of Akkad. Find also the stone tablets of Zoroaster, Gilgamesh, Shulgi and many scribes and deities around your land. Then make histories and laws for your land.
27. When mosheh awoke, he said, truly I am a god. For I have ever felt it so. Then he went to Egypt, many days journey to acquire papyri, tablets and all manner of things which the Egyptians kept as a treasure in their land.
28. For he paid the keeper of the museum a large sum and he secretly stole some of the artifacts and historical books which the Egyptians had acquired from different lands and kindreds.
29. Now mosheh returned to his land and went up to a mountaintop to read the things which he had acquired. Then he descended the mountain and began to tell the people, saying, I met one named Yahweh upon the mountain.
30. It was he who gave to me the tablets of laws. Then the people bowed before mosheh and said, great are you, for you have seen God.
31. Then mosheh began to rewrite the stories of the origin of the earth, languages and many other things which El had written in the clay tablets which he acquired. And he made attempt to destroy all the tablets on which Asherah the wife of El was mentioned, for already, the people had begun to make images of her to worship her as the wife of Yahweh.
32. Now mosheh wrote history concerning how himself left Ur, but he made a name for himself which was Abraham, yet he did not know that he had written something similar to the story of Brahma of the past world.
33. And mosheh also wrote history concerning how he rescued many people out of the land of Egypt, not knowing that the things which he wrote were some of the things which happened in the past world, in days of Moussa his spiritual guard.
34. Now the rulership of mosheh was harsh. He manifested all the attributes of Yahweh whom he really was, for he killed many people who worked on the last day of the week, saying, it is evil against Yahweh. He killed also the worshipper of Sin, Baalim and Moloch in multitude, saying that they were abominable people.He also killed the blind, lame, hunch backed and all forms of disabled people, because he hated them from within.
35. He killed those who refused circumcision also and he ordered war against those who worship Asherah, the one whom they called the queen of heaven. He tried hard to replace the name ‘El’ with ‘Yahweh’ in many texts of the tablets and papyri, but he could not, for many were already attached to the name ‘El’ as ‘God Almighty’.
36. Now mosheh(Yahweh) fell sick, so he went far from his land, saying, I shall not die where I shall be seen. So he cast himself in the red sea and died there, placing a tablet over his chest so that he could sink in the river. And on the tablet was written: I am YHWH, the God Almighty.
37. Then a man named Oshea found the corpse of mosheh (Yahweh) floating upon the river, because the tablet had rolled over and had sunken. And when Oshea checked the body of the dead, he found also on it: I am Yahweh, the God Almighty.
38. Now Oshea took the body and buried it. Then he continued to wander in the desert. Then he found the land where the people said that they worshipped Yahweh. Then he said to them, see the stone which I have obtained from your god.
39. So Oshea was accepted and he ruled over the people after the death of mosheh, whose soul name was Yahweh.

Learn the truth about your god, Dtruthspeaker