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Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 7:45pm On Oct 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
I can sense just two questions here

1, I remember the first time i attended a meeting at the Kingdom Hall in my home town the attendance was few from the start only for the seats to be occupied after 10mins.
So i never expected the JWs to shrink back or feel anything as long as they're ready to worship God even if it's just 8 souls that meet in the Hall i Maximus must be in that number!

2, That's the work of God's Holy Spirit, teaching His people what to do each time the need arises! John 14:26

Please can you now answer this man's question?
You still didn't answer my question and yes there is DEFINITELY a better alternative to the JW cult, but it isn't exactly what you think it is.
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 4:23pm On Oct 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
That makes your lies obvious when you guys say Kingdom Halls were sold due to reduction in attendance. So we need the capital to make an EQUALIZING where it's needed! wink
So help me understand something - at bolded - -

You guys are selling off kingdom halls and assembly halls in America and Europe to raise capital to "EQUALIZE" where it is needed?

Why would you sell a kingdom hall and an assembly hall if people aren't leaving the organization in droves?

Why were the kingdom halls and assembly halls built in the first place?

Whenever i say "you guys aren't real JWs" it seems i'm joking but i purposely set a trap with that comment knowing fully well that one of you will rush in to criticize me.
Lol.

Head Prefect of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Now learn what you never knew all your wasted life among God's people!
Thank you for admitting to the fact that being a member of your cult is a waste of one's life.

Thank you for this wonderful admittance.

God's active force doesn't speak in a literal sense rather it speaks through the Bible (God's word)

After the diligent study, thorough meditation and fervent prayer {Proverbs 2:1-5} God will use His Active Force to direct us to what we need to do regarding our supplication {Luke 12:11-12} so it will be as if we are hearing a voice speaking directly to us on what to do! Isaiah 30:21
Lol.

Too much explanation to cover up a blunder.

How can an "active force" speak to you?

How can an "active force" direct you?

Are these not personality traits?

You guys were never JWs for real because real JWs like me will surely ask all these questions to know why Jesus personalized God's Holy Spirit when God's organization said it's just His active force.
Head Prefect who knows "real JWs".

At Bolded, are you saying your organization knows better than Jesus?

I thought Jesus selected you guys in 1919, how come you are saying something different what he said?

But it's obvious you people only attend the meetings as kids following your parents not after many years you later began doing what you should have done from the onset.

I was born in another religion but in my heart i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses that's why my God called me out of darkness into his wonderful light. Ephesians 5:8

So if you want to learn this is the time format all the misconceptions you formally had because you knew almost nothing about God's Organization! wink
Lol.

Head Prefect of the Jehovah Witnesses.

Well, you're right at Bolded.

I was once like you - blind, indoctrinated and fanatical.

I never knew I was giving my time and life to a satanic cult.

I never knew the organization was a member of the united nations (the scarlet colored wild beast) for more than 10 years

I never knew the organization was protecting Child Sexual Abusers.

I never knew the organization bought shares in companies that produced war machines.

I never knew the organization bought shares in companies that produce cigarettes.

I never knew that the organization prophesied the world would end in 1914 and 1975 and it didn't happen.

I never knew that in 1925, the president of the organization - Rutherford prophesied that Abraham, Moses and other patriachs would be resurrected and that he bought a million dollar mansion called Beth Sarim to house them.

I never knew that as a JW, christ didn't die for me, but only the 144,000, which meant that I wasn't a child of God.

I never knew Charles Taze Russell the founder of the organization was a 33rd degree Mason.

I never knew the true identity of your god Jehovah - I never knew he is the same person as ENLIL, Molooch, Baal and Yaladaboth.

To top it all off, I never knew that your god Jehovah is neither omnipotent, omnipresent nor omniscient.

So you're right Max, I knew nothing about the true history of the JW Cult I was a member of for many many years.

I was blind, indoctrinated and fanatical, just like you are right now.
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 8:19am On Oct 28, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
@SeniorMan have you noticed how they all fled from the truth ?

In which of the poor countries has a hall been sold?
Why sell kingdom halls in "poor countries"?

How much is a kingdom hall worth in these "poor countries"?

A wise real estate investor won't sell off property that won't bring profit.

After all, it is in these poor countries that your numbers are fairly strong, so go figure.

Before now God's organization often sell our publications including Bibles not until God's Holy Spirit told us to start giving it out freely.
This is a bold faced LIE.

The Watchtower stopped selling their literature because that would mean they'd start paying taxes.

Go do your research and verify this information.

At bolded, I thought the Holy Spirit is just an active force, how come it "spoke" to you guys?

Does this mean your Holy Spirit is has a personality and thus it "speaks"?
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 6:45am On Oct 28, 2022
The earlier you all realize that Watchtower is a more of a buisness than a religion, the better for you to see through the smoke screen.

They currently have three very viable businesses -

1. Real Estate,

2. Book publishing, and of recent,

3. Movie production (by renting out their million dollar studio)

The selling of Kingdom Halls, Assembly halls, etc might be for a couple of reasons:

1. To raise money to settle court cases of Child Sexual Abuse,

2. Because their numbers are dwindling, or

3. Most likely to simply ramp up the profits.

The Watchtower is eventually going to become a full online church more like what Televangelists have been doing for many years now.

Why attend a kingdom hall when you can simply join in via Zoom?

Also, with the construction of their million dollar movie studio at Ramapo, they might eventually setup an online streaming service like Netflix where they showcase "Bible based" dramas.

The future is going to quite interesting.

Fingers crossed.
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 7:29am On Oct 27, 2022
achorladey:
Article titled “Righteous Requirements,” published in the July 1, 1943 Watchtower, pages 204-206
Their greatest enemy are their own publications.

Touche.
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 5:25am On Oct 27, 2022
OgaNightmare:
Courz you can now see why I no longer take this people seriously. The evil called religion is capable of anything.
What will God's Only channel of communication be doing with esoteric books?
Is that were they will fish spiritual food from?
I'll make a different thread on this with all the info I got
Wait a minute.

Watchtower actually sent a letter to the Grebber foundation asking for his esoteric books?!

God's only direct channel in dah mud.

Wow!
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Any Difference Between A Christian And A Born Again Christian. by oteneaaron(m): 11:32am On Oct 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Misconstrueing ANTICIPATION for PROPHECIES!

What a pity? smiley

My guy, all these are anticipations of God's promises not prophecies, just as faithful people always do! Matthew 11:3; Act 1:6

From time immemorial faithful servants of God have always ANTICIPATE God's promises and it's fulfilments. The mistakes they're making is TEACHINGS that came from pagan sources like HellFire, Immorality of the soul, birthdays and other pagan traditions not their anticipation of God's promises.

For your information it's God Himself who told us to CONTINUE ANTICIPATING His promises! Habakkuk 2:3

May you have PEACE! smiley
Hahahahahaha

Leave semantics for English professors.


So your God told you to be in anticipation and it is because of this "anticipation" that your organization predicted false prophecies that didn't come true?

So you are now blaming your God for your false prophecies.

Your God must love deceiving you guys cos in your "anticipation", you have made false prophecies not once, not twice and not even thrice, but on more than four different occasions.

Interesting.
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Any Difference Between A Christian And A Born Again Christian. by oteneaaron(m): 10:41am On Oct 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
All those persecuted and killed during the dark ages due to their love for what the Bible really teach died for the truth and Jesus is the truth so even though they're trinitarians and believe in HellFire Jesus will take them as true disciples because they're willing to know more! smiley
This still doesn't answer my question.

I wasn't talking about the Dark Ages.

You spoke about anointed JWs who are the true Born Again Christians who in your own words "will be transformed immediately they died to go and join their brothers in Heaven"

Is this not the the same teaching as the RAPTURE?

Well Jesus Christ returned in the year 1914 to take away the BORN AGAIN Christians who are sleeping in death {1Thessalonians 4:16} then the rest of them will be transformed immediately they died to go and join their brothers in heaven {1Thessalonians 4:17} then Jesus began visiting all the religious groups claiming Christians that year but none was teaching what Jesus laid down. After his thorough search he found a group known as the International Bible Students Association (IBSA) this group has been making research to know where the churches of Christendom went wrong, Jesus began using God's Holy Spirit to direct this group and from that year this group kept making amendments in their beliefs.
Jesus knew that we are imperfect humans so himself and his father aren't looking for perfection but willingness to admit mistakes and that's what the JWs are doing till today! smiley
Lol

Willingness to admit mistakes?

Interesting.

How can you simply call false prophecies "mistakes"?

False prophecy #1 - the world will end on 1914

False prophecy #2 - the world will end in 1925

False prophecy #3 - Abraham, Moses and other patriarchs will resurrect in 1929

False prophecy #4 - the world will end in 1975

I can go on and on.

Are these simply just "MISTAKES"?
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Any Difference Between A Christian And A Born Again Christian. by oteneaaron(m): 9:13am On Oct 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
The reason why you don't know the difference is because you haven't learned from the real Christians: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Christians are believers in Christ Jesus always practicing what Jesus taught wholeheartedly as if their lives depends on it. They will live forever in Paradise on earth when God's own government (God's Kingdom) is established on the earth. They will become adopted children of a new father (Christ Jesus) through their faith in him so unlike the descendants of Adam that inherited sin and death through the bloodline Christians will have everlasting life as adopted children of the Christ! 1Corinthians 15:45

BORN AGAIN Christians are believers anointed with God's Holy Spirit to reign with Christ in heaven. This is the group Jesus had a direct dealing with, they will live by all that Christ taught but after their death there's no more life for them on this planet just like Jesus lived and after his resurrection went to heaven, they will be taken to heaven where Jesus has prepared for them as home. John 14:6

After Jesus' ascension to heaven Satan raised enemies against the congregation (church) both inside and outside. Unbelieving Jews were fighting against the church as Satan's agents from the outside while antichrists (disguised politicians) were fighting against the church from within. So just as Jesus foretold all the pioneers of the faith were killed {Matthew 23:24} after all these ones (have all slept in death) Satan used those enemies within to change everything Christ laid down {Matthew 13:25} no wonder Jesus foretold that by the time he returns to see how far his disciples are doing on earth what he taught would have been changed due to Satan's continuous fight against the truth! Luke 18:8
Well Jesus Christ returned in the year 1914 to take away the BORN AGAIN Christians who are sleeping in death {1Thessalonians 4:16} then the rest of them will be transformed immediately they died to go and join their brothers in heaven {1Thessalonians 4:17} then Jesus began visiting all the religious groups claiming Christians that year but none was teaching what Jesus laid down. After his thorough search he found a group known as the International Bible Students Association (IBSA) this group has been making research to know where the churches of Christendom went wrong, Jesus began using God's Holy Spirit to direct this group and from that year this group kept making amendments in their beliefs.
Lol.

Oga doesn't even know the history of his own organization.

I thought you guys predicted the world would end in 1914?

Didn't Jesus return in 1919 before he choosed your organization as the one true Religious CULT?

@bolded when you say "transformed immediately" isn't that the same teaching as the rapture as taught by other "religionists" - in your words?

After 17 years of their continuous amendments (1931) without let up despite criticism from other religions including members leaving the group to either join or form another group God began calling this unique group of faithful researchers by another name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Approach them for more enlightenment on the topic of discussion and you'll be glad you did. God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley
Lol.

He calls it "continuous amendments".

Like when in 1925 you guys predicted the end of the world and in 1929 you guys also predicted that Moses, Abraham and the other patriarchs would come back to life and live in the million dollar Beth - Sarim House of Princes Mansion?

If you want to go down the route of history, stop hiding the facts and lay it all bare.

No need white washing the history of your CULT.

Capeesh?

Christianity EtcRe: What The Devil Said When I Told Him To "Get Thee Behind Me Satan!" by oteneaaron(m): 8:34am On Oct 23, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
You know what it means so why the pretense? For the cameras?
No I don't.

Kindly expantiate.

Who are the "you guys" that you refer to?
Christianity EtcRe: What The Devil Said When I Told Him To "Get Thee Behind Me Satan!" by oteneaaron(m): 8:29am On Oct 23, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
By why does it trouble you so much? Because it's the devil involved?

It seems you guys cannot pretend anymore when that happens.

By the way, these kinds of topics which expose the works of darkness hardly make frontpage so you don't need to panic much.
Lol

Why would it trouble me?

It's quite sad seeing a grown man like you giving his mind and focus to forces outside himself.

Look within!

By the way, @bolded, who are you referring to?
Christianity EtcRe: What The Devil Said When I Told Him To "Get Thee Behind Me Satan!" by oteneaaron(m):
jesusjnr2020:
What The Devil Said When I Told Him To "Get Thee Behind Me Satan!"

While praying in the early hours of Saturday, I fell asleep at some point, afterwards I noticed the devil had shown up and was trying to trouble me. But I rebuked him immediately and told him, "get thee behind me Satan!"

After I said that, he said, "amen" and left immediately.

Now that took me by surprise. Not his obeying what I commanded him to do in Jesus name, but also saying "amen" to it, because I had never heard that one before.

I'm used to them just being obedient to such as Jesus said He had given us power and authority over all the powers of the enemy, and to cast out devils in His name, but the devil saying "amen" as believers do is still baffling to me.

Wow!

Whatever that means though, it should be a good thing.

To God be the glory.
Lol.

Anything to hit Frontpage on Nairaland.

Where does the word "Amen" truly come from?

Are you sure you are not indirectly giving praises to the hidden Sun God of ancient Egypt - Amen Rah aka Marduk?
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 8:15pm On Oct 22, 2022
Courz:
Thanks.
You're welcome bro.
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 8:15pm On Oct 22, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
When i said oteneaaron is the same person behind the Courz account some may find it difficult to believe, now he's coming out of his cage!
Lol.

I can't believe you are still on this goose chase.

You still haven't shown verifiable proof that Courz and Oteneaaron are one and the same person.

Both accounts including Temlee333 never preached to anyone about God on this forum, all they do is criticism here and there.

But it's OK he will surely find his type! wink
At bolded.

Preach about which God to be precise?

Your Jehovah aka Yahweh aka Yaldaboath aka ENLIL?

Please be precise.
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 7:00pm On Oct 22, 2022
Courz:
Thank you so much. I will check each book one by one. From time to time, we can discuss as well when I've read one.

This online library you know, can I get these books there as well? Can you point me to this library?

Thanks.
The online library is called Library Genesis - -

Go to - Gen -dot- lib - dot- rus (I added the "dot" to avoid a ban by NL spam bots)

Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 5:13pm On Oct 22, 2022
Courz:
At the bolded, I am interested. The whole world and its history is a very big conspiracy. The only people who know the truth about we humans are the Ashkenazis, The Vatican, The Freemasons and other members of Secret Cults that have participated in the Conspiracy. Even Pagans know our history but Christians are the only ones in the dark.

I am trying to avoid info that doesn't lean towards New Age. So, if your sources are just history, I'm game.
Very well.

Here are a few books you can start with:

1. When the World was Black Volume 1 and 2 by Supreme Understanding - This book is an encyclopedia that traces the history of the black civilization, and teaches you how Africa gave the world EVERYTHING it has ever known.

2. The African Origin of Civilization by Cheikh Anta Diop - This book also traces the history of the black civilization and teaches you how we - Africans, gave the world EVERYTHING it has ever known - including religion, science and philosophy.

3. Escaping From Eden by Paul Wallis - This book looks critically at the story of the creation of Man as recorded by the ancients tablets found at Ancient Sumeria and Mesopotamia. The story of creation from ancient Sumeria predates what we have in the bible by tens of thousands of years.

4. The Lost Book of Enki by Zechariah Stichin - This book is a translation of one of the Ancient tablets found in ancient Sumeria, it is reported that this translation was authored by Enki himself.

It is quite an eye opener and gives more details to many the summarized stories as seen in the bible and myths from ancient Egypt, Sumeria, and India.

In this book, you will learn that the first Man - the Adam was initially from Southern Africa - even archeology supports this claim as every human on earth today can trace their origins to Southern Africa.

I have more to recommend, but you can start with the above books.

It's quite a journey, but you won't regret it.

If you are finding it hard to find these books online, let me know.

There is an online library where I get ALL my books free of charge.

It is only on a few occasions that I have to buy a book on Amazon or pay for an audio book on audible.

I wish you all the best in your research study of the above books.

Also, if you would like us to be study buddies, kindly let me know.

Cheers!!
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 12:37pm On Oct 22, 2022
Courz:
In the video I posted earlier about the True Identity of Jehovah, there is an image of Adonai as well. And there are Christians that address God as such. Now that you have seen this video, you now know who Adonai truly is.

If you look at the screenshot below, someone is talking about an occultic book he bought for his ex who happened to be a Practicing Witch. The author of the Book, Israel Rigardie, wrote other books as well. Now, I tried to find the book this person was talking about and I found one which most likely is the book. The title of the book is The Golden Dawn: The Original Account of the Teachings, Rites, and Ceremonies of the Hermetic Order.

This book is actually a Ritual Manual showing different kinds of rituals to evoke different kinds of demons. Now, I had to pray for the Holy Spirit and God's protection before downloading it. I decided to just scan the book. The book mentions different rituals, evocation spells, the symbols or sigils of different demons and how to summon them. One of these entities is Jehovah. The book mentioned something about lower ranking demons that are stationed under the order of Jehovah whenever he is summoned. It specifically said the Tetragrammaton YHWH or YHVH is the symbol for Jehovah. The book describes it as "The ineffable name. The Divine name". Yes. I remember when I was going through Occultic symbols in my research, I came across the Tetragrammaton in Hebrew. I was shocked that this is included as an occultic symbol. I refused to believe it. And now here I am seeing it in this book of rituals. One thing worthy to be noted in this book is that in a lot of the spells, the Divine Name, the Tetragrammaton YHVH needed to be used in order for the magic to work, by saying, in the name of Yhvh.
The Satanic Jews have really penetrated Christianity.

Elohim and Adonai were mentioned. For each of these names, their sigils are placed beside them and rituals are mentioned on how to summon them.

Talking about symbols, I saw a lot of symbols I have already talked about. All Seeing Eye, pyramid like the one erected for Charles Taze Russell, circle in a triangle, The Cross used by Catholics, Knights Templar symbol used by Watchtower, symbols used in the New Age Religion, etc. The Nazi symbol, the Swastika, is also mentioned there and has specific demons attached to it. Each symbol I saw had demons attached to them.

Phew! Interesting, isn't it? We all learn everyday.

The author was a member of OTO Hermetic Order created by Aleister Crowley. You can google his name. The book also talked about Enochian magic, the same magic Charles Taze Russell used to perform. I saw the word Watchtower scattered everywhere. The Watchtowers were described as stations where demons known as the Watchers are situated namely, Watchtower of the North, Watchtower of the South, Watchtower of the East, and Watchtower of the West.
Bro, if only you did some research into ancient history, you wouldn't be surprised as to your findings.

Go and read the Enuma Elish, the Atrahasis, the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Legend of Itana and the Lost book of Enki - just to name a few.

You will find out that the stories found in the Bible especially from the Garden of Eden right before the flood, are just a summary of what really went down on earth hundreds of thousands of years ago.

According to the ancient Sumerians Tablets, there are a group of extraterrestrials called the Annunaki - who are also known as the ELOHIM or the Shinning Ones.

Their defacto leader is known as ENLIL, who is the same as Yahweh or Jehovah (in Hebrew), Zeus (in Greece) and Jupiter (in Rome).

ENLIL's son Ninurta, is actually the deity known as Allah.

Yahwehs step brother is known is ENKI, who is also known as Adonai (The Lord), Ptah (in Egypt) and Posiedon (in Greece).

One of the sons of ENKI is the popular Marduk.

Marduk was known in Egypt as Amen/Amun Rah - which is where we got the word "Amen" from - when you pray and end with "Amen", you're actually praising Marduk.

It's really crazy what our minds have been conditioned to believe all through the years from one generation to another.

It's all a very BIG conspiracy and a rape on our true history as a species.

Why do think ancient historical sites like the library of Alexandria were either destroyed or burnt down?

What secrets about our history do you think the Vatican is hiding deep below in their secret archives?

If you're interested, I have a couple of ancient history books I can recommend to you, it'd help you uncover this grand conspiracy.

Religion is just a tool used to keep us docile and from asking the right questions.
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Aren't Truth-seekers by oteneaaron(m): 1:08pm On Oct 20, 2022
SeniorMan715:
First question is to ask yourself how did this world came to be,The account of creation hinges on the fact that there is a Supreme Being, Almighty God, who created all things.

Who is he, and what is his nature? He's quite different from the deities found in popular culture and mainstream religion.
Interesting.

So this is the TRUTH that Athiests are not seeking for.

Before we critically analyze the account of creation as recorded in the Bible, I would like to ask -

Who is this SUPREME BEING you speak about?

Is he the God of the Bible aka Jehovah?
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists Aren't Truth-seekers by oteneaaron(m): 8:41am On Oct 20, 2022
SeniorMan715:
Don't be in a naïve opinion that atheists are honest truth-seekers who just haven’t yet found the truth because of bad luck. Don't let them confuse you they have already concluded that theological claims people believe in are wrong. But why then are they also worried and always attacking Believers showing there's something special about the truth which they have seen but keep ignoring, for selfish reasons smiley if not why won't they allow believers to be happy in their wrongfulness and beliefs.. However, the assumption of honest truth-seekers is often wrong. Yes, atheists are not honest truth-seekers, if they are i will know and I’ll willingly engage them in civil dialogue, I’ve engaged in countless debates on serious topics for years, and i can recognize when people are not arguing in good faith, but rather are using deceptive techniques to lead people astray, to delude themselves, or to just stir the pot for their own amusement and they can never argue on facts and evidence, because they are driven almost entirely by emotion, they will only respond to appeals to emotions.
Interesting submission OP.

If I may ask, what is this TRUTH you speak about?

I guess we can start from there.
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Is "Fallible" their are truth, errors, contradiction and allegories by oteneaaron(m): 7:36am On Oct 19, 2022
Lawag3:
What are you saying the bible is one of the most historically accurate books on the word it also accurately prophecies about the future some has happened some are yet to
Well, it isn't actually the "most historically accurate" book in the world.

For example, did you know that the story of Exodus didn't happen in actual history?

There is NO RECORD in Egyptian history of a time when the Jews were enslaved for 400 years, nor is there any record of the "10 plagues" in Egyptian history.

Don't forget that the Egyptians were meticulous record keepers - they kept so much records of their life and history to the extent that a field of study was established just to study their history - this field of study is called Egyptology.

Even the flood of Noah is not an originsl story but is only a cheap copy of the flood story from ancient Sumeria.

I can go on and on, but you can do some research to verify the two examples I mentioned above.
Christianity EtcRe: Depressed And Sucidal by oteneaaron(m): 6:35pm On Oct 18, 2022
SucideIsreal:
Am a 29-year-old guy, who dropped out of school for no reason in 2015,tried to get me in line back but things just go from worse, I stay with my mum but things are not rosy between us that she dislikes me so much, to say the least, have tried working legit jobs, tried scamming and at the end it turns out to be from one misfortune to another, I don't smoke or drink, I turned to gamble and it has gotten me into debts that I can't even mention it here..have prayed and fast but it seems am doomed..have attempted suicide twice but I feel God failed to take my life. am depressed, and I feel darkness all around me, I know for sure it's a spiritual battle but at this point, I can't fight it alone, my life was bright a few years ago now am at risk of taking my life every morning I wake.i am not here begging for help because even people around me that can help just won't, because of reasons i don't understand..i need help or the devil might eventually win this time...please people
I can only imagine what you are going thru.

So sorry for your experience.

There is no need to blame anybody.

Nobody owes you and nobody is holding you back too.

What kind of help are you looking for?
Car TalkRe: By These, You Know That Atheists Are Obviously Evil People by oteneaaron(m): 5:28pm On Oct 18, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
You are running and I never compell anyone to do what he does not want to do. Plus, it is you who needs to create the thread so that you can frame the issue of debate.
Lol.

I must be very important.

I've had over five mentions from you within the last 20 minutes.

Like I have said for the third time now, you can create as many threads as you want to.

Right now, don't have the strength for any fruitless debate - when I do, you'd be the first to know.

Until then, keep doing what you know how to do best.
Car TalkRe: By These, You Know That Atheists Are Obviously Evil People by oteneaaron(m): 5:10pm On Oct 18, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
Is it not because you know you are wrong that your opinions are not True which is why you are running from a reasonable, fair and clean debate?

My debates are never long. In a short and sharp answer, you would not be able to give a valid and reasonable counter.
Lol.

I am not running from anything.

Like I said, you can create as many threads as you want to.

I don't have the strength for any fruitless debate.
Car TalkRe: By These, You Know That Atheists Are Obviously Evil People by oteneaaron(m): 4:33pm On Oct 18, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
A click on your moniker shows the whole quote and I believe everyone knows that!
Lol.

Create any number of threads as much as you want to.

Personally, I have no strength for any fruitless debate.

Athiests are the cause of all the problems in the world today.

Happy now?

Car TalkRe: By These, You Know That Atheists Are Obviously Evil People by oteneaaron(m): 4:17pm On Oct 18, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
These guy says murders, terrorists, thieves should not be punished with death and destruction.
Since you decided to quote me, why didn't you quote the whole thread for people to read?

Why quoting me out of context?

As humans, we have laws that govern the land and if you kill someone, you will obviously get killed too.

But we are talking about your "God" who is supposed to be ALL POWERFUL - why can't he in all his greatness, simply change the mind of these murderers, thieves and terrorists without killing them?

When we study the Bible, we see that your "God" ordered the killing and maiming of MILLIONS of women, virgins and children- or were these people murderers, thieves and terrorists too?

The murderers, terrorists and the theives you speak about, are they atheists too?

Have we not seen that it is your fellow worshipers who commit the worse crimes?

Who ordered the Great crusade?

Who ordered the burning to death of scientists and so-called witches during the dark ages?

Who ordered that the genocide on the amalekites?

Was it not your "God"?

Like I have said many times, your "God" is bloodthirsty and thrives on death and destruction.
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 3:13pm On Oct 18, 2022
SeniorMan715:
Does mentioning names make a story authentic ? Anyway ride on
Yes it does make it authentic.

Every baptized Jehovah's Witness has a personal file tracking their activities at the local headquarters of each country.

You can go to the Bethel HQ at Igeiduma in Edo state to confirm the circuit number and the name of the circuit overseer.

Go and verify.
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 9:44pm On Oct 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Please keep all these stories for the gods i'm not interested if you can't present a better deity or better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses! wink
Lol.

When he cannot read to understand, he calls them stories.

Keep waiting for a better deity and continue ignoring the Infinite Mind that lives within you.

It is your greatest undoing.
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 9:38pm On Oct 17, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
An adage in my dialect goes:

"Bí ọmọdé bá rí oyin a sọ àkàrà nù"

Loosely translated

"a child will trash the bean-cake after tasting honey"


My God claims He is Holy {Leviticus 20:26} not that His enemies won't find other gods but you can never ever find a better replacement for JEHOVAH neither can you find a better performing group than His people.
That's what Holiness (Purity) connotes!
You keep searching for something that is outside yourself.

Look within!

The Infinite Mind behind the entire cosmos is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient.

This infinite mind is omnipresent and therefore exists in each and every one of us, even you.

But you keep looking outwards, to something outside yourself and this is your greatest undoing.

True, your "God" claims to be holy, but when we study the old testament, we see that his hands are stained with the blood of millions of women and children that he has killed either directly or by proxy.

Your "God" is blood thirsty and loves violence, is that what been "holy" really means?

But the stage is set already if you know of any god that's better than JEHOVAH or a better performing organization than His Witnesses! wink
Your "God" is neither omnipotent, omnipresent nor omniscient -so go figure!

Following the BITE model, it has been proven that your organization is in reality, a high control cult.

So if you are asking me for a better performing cult than your organization, there are countless examples - Check out the Mormons, check out the Scientologists, check out the Heavens gate cult and their Kool aid.
Christianity EtcRe: My Experience With The Jehovah's Witnesses Organization by oteneaaron(m): 8:56pm On Oct 17, 2022
Courz:
Now you know the specific god Jehovah's witnesses worship unknowingly. This also goes to those who like to address the Almighty God as Jehovah. That is NOT his name. Avoid addressing God with that name. God has nothing to do with a made up name specifically given to Satan. Satan goes by many names according to cult/sect. Lucifer, Satan, Jehovah, Baal.

This is the widespread deception going on in the world today. A name is made up, publicised and made popular as the name of God even though this name is for Satan and is used in Magic/Witchcraft. The same name is added to Bibles and preached as the name of God by some Men of God and Watchtower. We know that Christianity has been infiltrated by the Freemasons.

This is the work of the Freemasons. Deceit. Luring people to worship Satan unknowingly. Avoid this name and address God the same way Jesus addressed him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgxwVhnKDDc
That is exactly why MaxInDHouse has on many occasions mentioned that the "God" they worship, Jehovah is neither Omniscient, Omnipresent nor Omnipotent.

https://www.nairaland.com/7295242/omniscient-omnipotent-omnipresent-how-true

He is the DEMIURGE, also known as Yaldaboath and ENLIL in ancient Sumeria.

He is not the infinite mind behind the entire cosmos.
Christianity EtcRe: Pestilence! See How Anti-god People Have Destroyed God Fearing Africa? by oteneaaron(m): 8:14pm On Oct 17, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
Simple: You do it, and we give it back to you with interest.

Eg you Bleep a person's wife, then another focks your wife. And if you smile and you are happy, we know it must be is Good!

But If you cry and lament, we know it must not be good (therefore evil)
I don't understand you.

What are you giving back with interest?

Can you explain?

This is what one who calls me brother from the same country is doing to one of my neighbours

https://www.nairaland.com/7386421/gunmen-kidnap-motorists-nkwelle-isiagu

This is what one who calls me brother on my same planet and solar system is doing to my neighbour

https://www.nairaland.com/7388045/60-nigerian-students-flee-campus

I pray to live on a separate planet from these people who willingly and readily harm me and still call me brothers. Mba nu.
These people you mentioned above, are they Atheists?

Because experience has shown that many of these people you mentioned, are staunch worshipers of your "God".

True, there are many people who have decided to live a life of crime, but it doesn't change the fact that you are human, just as they are.

Does all power full mean void of emotions?
If anything it ought to tell you that Those Emotions would also be powerfull. All Powerful covers that also.

If He was quick to give Just-is you people would have been dead centuries ago.
When you say "you people" who exactly are you referring to?

Why will killing and maiming people be the only solution?

Been all powerful should mean exactly what it is - ALL POWER

With ultimate power, your "God" should be able to solve issues without any bloodshed.

What is the use of all power when you cannot control your emotions?

What is the use of all power when you cannot solve a problem with fighting, killing and maiming?

Why is your "God" so hell bent on destruction?

Is that his true nature?

IT IS EVEN RATHER THAT HE TAKES TOO MUCH TIME GIVE JUST-IS, eg it was after 400 years that God started punishing Egypt which lasted another 30 years and we see He used cosmos, hail stones, the sea, the insects, the waters, reptiles etc.

And you see, Egypt took God's First Sons, 400 worth, therefore God took their first sons plus interest!

Pharaoh came to kill a defenceless and army-none nation by the sea, God killed them using the sea.

Just-is served!
It is so unfortunate that you are not a student of ancient history.

Do you think the story of the Jews been held as slaves in Egpyt has any historical proof?

I hope you don't take the Bible as LITERAL HISTORY.

Go and study the ancient history of Egypt - there is no record of any Jews been held captive as slaves.

Instead, there is the story of King Akhenathen who first brought monotheism to Egypt and destroyed all the temples of the old gods.

He was later disgraced and chased out of Egypt - this is where the Bible got the story of the exodus.

Don't forget that Egypt was originally known as the land of Khem (black land or land of the blacks) and is located in AFRICA.

I wonder how your ancestors would feel seeing you taking the sides of foreigners and discarding your ancient history as an African.

"Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil."

Hand in hand the evil shall not go unpunished!
Your understanding of "evil" sounds flawed.

How about your "God" who sent his people to kill virgins, kill babies, forcibly take over people's lands, and sponsor the great crusade?

Are those acts of your "God" and "his people" not "evil" acts in themselves?

Why would an all powerful "God" stick to killing and maiming, when there are better ways of solving issues?

Why does your "God" love destruction?
Christianity EtcRe: Pestilence! See How Anti-god People Have Destroyed God Fearing Africa? by oteneaaron(m):
Dtruthspeaker:
All it takes to destroy any nation is one evil man.

Not to talk of many evil people.
How do you define EVIL?

What is your definition of GOOD?

And that is why I hate you people and I can't wait for you all to be carried away to the eat the suffering and pains you cause. And I love the fact that God gives you people plenty of life so that when you do not repent/cannot repent) your punishment will also last a lifetime, as Is The Law.
Well, I don't hate you.

Beyond religion, you and I are brothers from the same country, the same continent, the same planet, the same solar system and from the same galaxy.

Why would I hate you?

When you want to understand a man, look at the "God" he worships.

You hate your fellow man, an African like you because you are blinded by a religion which pays allegiance to the blood thirsty war God known as Jehovah.

You expect that a Person Who gave you eyes, would not be able to see or that He Who gave you feelings, will not also feel.

Since we are alike and most especially as He has been more than too patient and long-suffering than any man dead or alive. THEREFORE, HE HAS A RIGHT TO TAKE VENGEANCE ESPECIALLY AS YOU FORGET, IT IS HIS BLOOD YOU TOOK, WHEN YOU LIFE KILLING MONSTERS KILL.


HE HAS A RIGHT AND JURISDICTION TO HEAR OUR CRY FOR JUST-IS FOR THE MURDER OF MY NEIGHBOURS WHOM YOU KILL, DAILY, MONTHLY, YEARLY.

AND WE CRIMINALS WILL ALWAYS INSULT THE JUDGE, BUT WE ARE THANKFUL THAT THIS JUDGE WOULD NOT LET ANY CRIMINAL GO UNPUNISHED.

SO IT IS JUST AND LAWFUL THAT EVERY EVIL DOER IS REPAID WITH ALL THE EVIL HE HAS DONE, EVEN WITH INTEREST
I still ask again, how do you define EVIL?

You keep giving human feelings and emotions to your "God", yet you claim he is all powerful, all knowing and is everywhere at the same time.

The "God" you worship, from your own words is blood thirsty and is willing to kill, maim and destroy, just to "prove a point"

From your own words, it is clear to see that the "God" you worship CANNOT be the infinite mind behind the entire cosmos, because if he were, he wouldn't be so quick to kill, maim and destroy.
Christianity EtcRe: Pestilence! See How Anti-god People Have Destroyed God Fearing Africa? by oteneaaron(m): 4:49pm On Oct 17, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
Yes! It's not the first time that they are opening the dam.
Wow.

So you mean to tell me, Atheists are so powerful that they would cause such catastrophe and your "God" couldn't do anything about it?

All these just proves why we always Need God. Even the very air we breathe can kill us if and when God removes His Hand from our lives.

Not to talk of when He points His Finger at us in the "you would see" manner.

Not to talk of the worse one when He Says "Today, me and you be enemy"! We are all dead!
You describe your "God" as some kind of vindictive blood thirsty monster.

Oh wait, he really is a blood thirsty monster - the old testament is pure proof of this.

You people have finished this country. And the dying and crying and lamenting has only just begun.
Which people?

Instead of using your mind to think up solutions to issues, you have decided to lay blames to powers outside yourself.

And as you can see, every country is on their own now, No Help is coming as happened to Babylon, Sumeria, Philistine etc
What do you know about the true events of Babylon, Sumeria and Philistine?

Why are you looking for help?

I thought "heaven helps those who help themselves"?

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