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I am only drinking pepsi from today! Not because of wizkid (hate that n*gga) but because somewhere in my small mind I believe Tiwa has blessed that drink.. . . .

On another side, How come no one knows how old that tall drink of water is? Nigerians celebrities really need to make their lives public. They depend on the public's need for a hero to make a living. Damn!

So Tiwa, if you visit NL, how about a pepsi date?

@smoothcrim

Now you can go buy yourself a bottle of Gulder. . .

Well, the Mali example is an example of Laziness just like the many reports call Eastern Europeans (slavic people) or Tartars and Tajiks/Turkmens/Uzbeks, Caucaus or Burmese/Cambodians/Laotian, Indo-China. It is a way to put people in super groups. Lazy, yes but taking offense is a tad pendantic.

It is not offensive if it is a super group. I think the offense is actually calling Koreans, Chinese or Calling Malians, Sudanese.

SmoothCrim: It is condescending but, not for some of the reasons stated. It is condescending because it is too general and lazy... The "sub" debate does not resonate with me and I don't care for it. What I do care about is the laziness in which sub-Saharan African it is used. Do you agree it is lazy?

Means you were talking about something outside of the discussion at hand. Of course, it is a lazy way to talk. A more specific grouping would be strictly cardinal points. But then again, we have Middle East, Far East and United states of America everyone including many Nigerians call America.

Funny enough, South Americans don't like the Laziness or Latin America (Guyanese speak English and can't understand why their continent is called Latin America). We are not being racist to the South Americans when we call USA, America , it is just us being lazy. It is sort of a human thing rather than being racist.

ROSSIKE: Another thing I detest is the way we refer to even our major ethnic groups as 'tribes'. That's another racist colonial designation we'd do well to get rid of.

Totally agree with you here. Colonial legacy and our educators have failed to drum up what the word 'tribe' means and how inappropraite it is to calling someone a member of the Igbo or Yoruba tribe.

The blame lies squarely at the doorstep of the Ministries of Education that approve social studies textbooks

SmoothCrim: Let me clarify, as a geographic term it is not offensive but, it is so useless it should not be used. The way it is used and the laziness behind how it is used is what is offensive. It seems some here believe that some are offended because they want to be related to North Africans. I will state it clearly here. I want in NO WAY to be related to them. I am NOT related them! All I am asking for is calling people what they are and being more specific as that is more useful.

Now we are getting somewhere. I quite agree with you here especially the laziness bit. The same way Americans say Europe or many people believe that Oceania is a one country continent or in a very lazy grouping (Asia-Pacific).

Now the Australians and Fijians aren't complaining are they?

SmoothCrim: Any evidence of the bolded part? Inherent in your statement is the idea that there is something about sub-Saharan Africa to feel inferior about? I disagree!! Now, prove your offensive claim!! It is human nature to want to be acknowledged as what you are.

The idea behind this thread pre-supposes on the fact that describing African countries that actually lie within and below the Sahara desert as sub-saharan is a condescending term. This would mean that someone is feeling insecure about himself and is demanding an acknowledgement based upon conjectures and absurdities.

A lot more people are not offended and see it as what it is, a geographical description based upon what is acceptable worldwide. Maybe you should cease to speak English since it is borrowed and means it is the white man's deliberate attempt to kill your native tongue.

I certainly do not see any racial undertone and there are many more standards we have like the Calender for example. The muslim world can complain all they want but everyone knows this is 2012. Whether ancient Nigerians used a 4-day week is irrelevant, What matters now is that a week is 7 days old.

Geography has a set of rules drummed up by someone or a group of people and if it became popular, so be it. Trying to force fit racial undertones to the rule set is disingenous.

ROSSIKE: You're another person brainwashed to see the world through the blue eyes of a Caucasian. Why are some of you people so allergic to new knowledge?

Read and learn:


''It came as a surprise to me after over 20 years of seeing "normal" world maps to come across an upside down one. The most surprising thing was that I found it surprising. It is completely artificial that we have North at the top of a map.

The convention came a few centuries ago when Northern hemisphere, European navigators started using the North star and the magnetic compass. Before that, the top of the map was to the East which is where the word orientation comes from.''

http://flourish.org/upsidedownmap/

Let me indulge you a little, even if the map is oriented East, all we get that African countries with predominantly black population would be called what 'East-Saharan or something of the sort' countries OR even in the upside down parallel universe where black people enslaved white people, it would be called SupraSaharan as the countries are grouped with reference to the Desert. So if we are to automatically decide to make all our maps due south and sub-saharan countries become supra-saharan countries, would that mean that the average European bigot would begin to see the African as superior?

Sub just means below as Supra means above. . . So how is that condescending? Maybe the Chinese people would need to get offended when their country which is bigger than India is called yes 'a country' whilst India has the luxury of being called the sub-continent or maybe it is the Indians that should be offended that their country is called the sub of the continent

ROSSIKE: And you, stop talking garbage, and go and learn. The ancient Egyptian maps WERE 'upside down' by current convention, and the Nile had ZERO to do with it. THAT is the invention of the western mythorians you're parroting. It's like saying Nigerians would have named the north ''Southern Nigera'' if the River Niger had flowed from southern highlands to northern lowlands, which of course would be absolute rubbish.

Rivers flow from HIGHlands to LOWlands. Your words were 'LOWER EGYPT' and 'UPPER EGYPT'. Why is it easier to believe that a map you have never seen was upside down rather than simple topographical reasons to describe places. Very soon you would tell me the Ancient Egyptians were very advanced and went to space which the white man who is meant to be weaker managed to destroy. According to rossike, The map was upside down rather than the Nile flowed from the upper portion has to be the reason.

YES, your example of NIgeria is pointless and bears no relation to your point and is in your words absolutely rubbish!

Stop being obtuse with the inaccurate explanations about the origins of the cardinal points. You have made valid arguments defending the black race in the past especially your argument proving that Nigeria is a far developed country today than before the Brits left. However, on this point, you are wrong and I have to call you out here.

Sub-sahara is a description and only an insecure fellow would find it offensive. One wonders why the same white people call themselves the West (pointing to the USA) when the sun sets in the west. Perhaps an insecure American would begin to blame the Russians and Japanese for rotating the map to say the sun sets in their land. These are just silly conjectures drummed up by a simple mind to explain their inadequacies.

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To add to that intelligent rejoinder,

ROSSIKE: This is why the present north of Egypt was known as 'Lower Egypt', and the present south, as 'Upper Egypt'.

Actually, The Nile flows from the Highlands in Sudan to the lowlands in present day Egypt. It therefore makes a lot more sense to call it lower in terms of elevation rather than cardinal points.

Stop believing everything you read on conspiracy sites. They are also guilty of the same thing you accuse western media of doing.

MacDaddy01: Wow! such wisdom! Such an excellent reply to the topic at hand! What deep thought and insight!


(sarcasm off)

This is meant to be funny. . .#clot

Freiburger: 10 likes

I find it rather odd that Freiburger 10 liked a post about male nuts

Woohoo!!

Oyedepo won! He should pay his tithe on the 20K period! All WEAPONS. . . fashioned against thee shall not propser and every tongue risen in JUDGEMENT. . .

In other news, that lawyer is r*tarded!

@EdDave

1.Why can't you help your friend get into the industry you work in? Isn't that lucrative enough?

2. Roustabouts are oil workers and some are functional illiterates so your friend has to decide what job he wants and try to get everything most people doing that job have in the industry

1. Doctors harvesting organs for the black market are handsomely rewarded

2. You can also set up an abortion clinic around hair dressing salons and female secondary schools. . .Nigerian teens are h0rny and stewpid!

3. Get a job as a Junior resident

The idea behind this thread is retarded. Hopefully, logicboy isn't retarded

We all know that this so-called license/MOU/plan is the FG blowing HOT AIR and seeking a new route to transfer Nigerian funds to private bank accounts

Wesley80 knows this very well and is standing by his claim simply to WIN this argument which fortunately, he is gallantly losing. When we see a genuine capital investment, there won't be two page argument wondering if it is real.

'Vulcan f**kever' is not a genuine investor shikena! The fraudsters can't even get a bloody identity; cowering behind Paul Allen's company name to decieve unsuspecting people and attract fraudulent bedfellows like themselves.

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Would you mind telling us how?

Some points to note for bored readers

1. Beaf knows this story is a FAT lie

2. We all know GEJ's government WILL NOT build any refinery before he leaves Aso Rock

3. Beaf is well aware Boko Haram is still active even though GEJ promised a June 2012 end date, He is also aware that GEJ promised 6000MW of elcetricity at some point and that has not been achieved and thus has a record of NOT fulfilling his promises.

4. We are all desperately hoping that somehow GEJ will succeed and put this country on the right path. However, what we do know is that he is desperately doing all he can to not fulfil our hopes

*VULCAN my enriched black a**. . . Next Please!

FXKing2012: In a country where praying or converting non-Christians is banned, are u telling me a pastor shld abide by the law of the land and not by the law of God.

The sad story behind this post is that somehow deep down in your heart, you believe that you are very different from a suicide bomber.

This is probably in the same series of signings that never ever come to fruition. Didn't Medvedev come to visit sometime in '07 to establish Nigaz? Anyone seen a Nigaz office, website or bloody signpost anywhere??

Nigerian leaders are desperately wicked, greedy and downright foolish. The Nigerian population which we all are members of have a majority that has been beaten down for so long that it has reduced us to circus animals.

This circus will continue until perhaps our own 'snowball' appears

He was probably speaking for ''in an ideal environment''. Since he knows Nigeria is practising lootocracy, he is being dishonest!

Just so i am clear. Why is it necessary for a leader to be christian anyway? OR as far as you are concerned better a professing incompetent hack as president that a competent non-christian?

I think Obama's government should be judged on the merits of governance rather than who/what he prays to at night. If his policies are taking the country backward, then he should be voted out.

Why didn't he say El-Rufai insulted him or his governance. How does a critique of his mal-administration equate to all Igbos? I am guessing because he believes the average bigot would queue behind him and forget that he is actually a poor administrator that has been unable to make Onitsha, Nnewi or Awka a choice destination to Nigerians.

flexyonline: The key question for me is: how do you know which area falls on R1, R2 or R3? Seems to me that most places in Lagos will be R2. So which is R3?

Actually, R1 are for homes that regularly consume less than 100kwh per month: 'single room tenants on low income with very little electrical appliance'

R2 are for homes greater than 100kwh but less than 1000kwh on average (some documents have it as 15kvah)per month: 'Most Nigerians fall into this category but NEPA has fraudulently put many of them on R3 for chop I chop purposes'. Many people need to insist on this and show proof that your monthly usage is never more than 1000kwh

R3: for homes greater than 1000kwh a month:e.g 'Some hostels or landlords of blocks of single room apartments with only one meter' or just heavy users.

The tariffs are discriminatory and beneficial to the poor and also encourages (with the high fixed charge for R3) reduction in amount of electricity consumed. The $m question is if this will work as it is intended.

aletheia: So predictable. It took you all of two posts to mention GEJ. Obviously, the fact of his being president makes you very bitter and nonobjective. Will you commit suicide when he wins a second term in office?
Kobojunkie's post makes salient points which you have chosen to ignore because of your obsession with GEJ whom you disrespectfully refer to as "the MEND President". Shame on you! NNPC is at the heart of the corruption in the Oil Industry. And it predates this administration.

I have to agree with you here. The rot in the oil industry is perpetuated by NNPC staff (decision making management staff). Illegal bunkering started way before GEJ and returning bunkering volumes to pre-GEJ days is not an option to the solution at this point.

GEJ might be clueless but Gbawe knows very well that GEJ is certainly afraid to touch certain people in his government.Now why would a C-in-C be afraid of some people and who are these people? A quick guess would be those who facilitated GEJ's ascension to Aso Rock.

As usual, common sense has left the window under the clouds of 'chop but do something'. Nobody is questioning the N4.5b 'investment' in roads + refinery by the ANSG in this project that OPR seems to have gotten covered.

Nice project and good vision by the executive board of the company (sitting on 1 billion barrels in place of oil - potentially recovering 350 million barrels can serve that refinery for up to 17 years). The nicer gist is the gas reserves.

Can someone put out where it is written boldly outside the original article that Anambra state partly owns this refinery?

The Typical Nigerian Christian. God cares about only me and is protecting me because I am special.

The driver and conductor are lower humans and deserve to die and therefore I can throw a party to celebrate my good fortune and reduce the memory of two dead people to a single sentence in my glorious testimony to the 'ever merciful and loving God'.

1 : Player of the season : Vincent Kompany
2 : Manager of the season : Brendan Rodgers
3 : Outstanding Goalie : Joe Hart
4 : Outstanding Striker : Robin Van Persie
5: Outstanding Defender : Vincent Kompany
6: Transfer of the season : Papiss Cisse
7: Flop of the season : Patrice Evra
8: Attacking Combo : Jonathan Walters/Peter Crouch
9: Defence Pair : Kompany/Lescott
10: Moment of the season : Aguero's winning strike

Nice historical thread. I'm subscribing

PapaBrowne: I think more than a choice, Poverty is a state of mind influenced by the choices we have made over time.
Let me use what I will describe as the PawPaw Theory to explain why I think poverty has to do with the choices we make.

Let me start with an illustration in the form of a story.

Two fellows, poor and hungry bricklayers, living in Lagos were given a large Pawpaw fruit each.
One of them(Lets call him John) looked at the fruit and said, HA thank God, this PawPaw go quench my hunger. So he ate the fruit and threw the seeds away.
The other(Lets call him Jerry) looked at it and saw something different. He saw a plantation. A massive plantation. So he ate the fruit and kept the seeds.


A few statistics about PawPaw before I proceed with my story.

*A pawpaw fruit has about 500 seeds on average.
*It starts producing fruit after the 1st year and does so for 3 more years
*Each tree produces on average 20 harvestable fruits a year.
*Average price of pawpaw in Nigeria is 150-250 Naira.

Next day, John and Jerry go to work. They are paid 1000 naira each for that day's Job.
John buys himself enough beans and Garri to last him for one week.
Jerry on the other hand, buys a Hoe and uses the rest to pay transport back to his village- PawPaw seeds in hand!

500 pawpaw seeds planted grew to 500 pawpaw trees.
In one year, the trees produced 500 x 20= 10,000 pawpaw Fruits.
He harvested all, but kept fresh seeds from 200 fruits for planting in the next year.
200 x 500 = 100,000 seeds.
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He sold 9000 fruits at wholesale for 70 Naira each.
He made a cool 630,000 Naira in the first year.

He took more land and planted his 100,000 seeds.
These new trees produces 100,000 x 20 = 2 million pawpaw fruits.

He harvested all 2 million fruits and sold wholesale for 20 Naira each.
He made a whooping 40 Million Naira in the second year!!

John on the other hand was still bricklaying in Lagos and buying Beans and Garri for the week anytime he is paid 1000 Naira.
John is waiting for Government to improve his life.
Jerry on the other hand has improved his life and he would employ hundreds of villagers to harvest his pawpaw. His Pawpaw is in high demand and foreing companies are beginning to make inquires. So he plants more and more and gets more and more money!!

All Jerry did was to make a better choice than John.

I didn't know farmlands were still handed out for free and EVERY seed grows to a tree and must produce EQUAL number of fruits. You sound like the prosperity preacher the OP is worried about.

They (FG) don't actually explore or drill for crude oil. If they did, it would also be run like the refineries

Caringpro: @ow11, @nitrogen and@shola. You guys come to nairaland to critize people. Who is above mistake? I just posted it without going thru it second time and all u guys did is to judge me with my write ups. It was a mistake frm my part just take note. It is not as if i dnt knw wht to write or how to spell. Come to think of it, are you guys the total? Just be careful this world is a very small place. Thanx

Actually, My grouse with your post had nothing to do with the obvious typo which you would not make during a formal assessment. I commented because of the thought process (in simple terms, content) of your post. Let us look at it again.

Caringpro: Hello follow nairalander, am in portharcourt and i summited my CV today for the vancancy that total advertise in portharcourt. I just want to knw since this formu is for total worker if there is anybody here tat i can help me to follow up my CV. I read chemical engineering and i have sent out my cv to total. You can contact me with this mail address. Coolbird29@yahoo.com. I will be grateful to hear frm anybody

1. What do you mean by follow up your CV?
2. You actually studied (not read) Chemical Engineering and failed to mention what vacancy you have applied for
3. You also somehow think, strangers would somehow bypass the job screening process to hand you a job that according to T22 pays N11m abi na N17m per annum. Why do you think someone should do this?
4. You did not ask vital job application questions like; How is the screening process conducted? How many stages exist? What is the training regimen for young graduates in the company like? Are graduates expected to negotiate salaries? How long does the entire process take?
5. I concluded that you either have no idea about the standard procedure of getting a job or couldn't be bothered to know how. That is why, my sister, your post is an embarrassing read!