₦airaland Forum

Owologbo:
You don't know what you are saying.
Igbo didn't unite SS.
And you following Biafra without any signed agreement will be the worst decision of your life.
you a minority following Biafra without agreement is equivalent to committing suicide.
The oppression from the north against the south will be a child play

The guy you are qouting is not a southern minority at all.

gidgiddy:
All these questions will be answered by referendum, which is what the Biafran agitators want.

Many of these questions will need to be answered before the referendum.

1) Where will the referendum be conducted?

a) Old Eastern Region which doesn't include Delta & Edo States

b) Old Eastern + Delta + parts of Edo/Kogi/ Benue

c) Anywhere Igbos are found including Edo, Kogi or Benue. Then who is an Igbo and who isn't an Igbo?

d) The present SE

e) SE/SS

2) Who is eligible to vote in the Referendum?

a) All Residents of the agreed areas.

b) All Igbos including those living in Kano, Lagos, Abuja, Ibadan etc?

c) All Indigenes irrespective of where they currently live.

3) How do we interpret the results of the Referendum?

a) Leave Nigeria for Biafra
b) Remain in Nigeria
c) Form a New Non-Nigerian, Non- Biafran Country.

kollinzgee:
You can have itsekiri and the rest but dont near anioma and igbanke.

Why?

gidgiddy:
Its one thing to trace your ancestry to Benin, it is another totally different thing to want be with Benin if Nigeria breaks up

Many Igbos believe they Israeli ancestry, but you will never find any Igbo who wants to be part of the state of Israel

If a referendum is held today, Igbanke is likely to choose to be in the same country with those they speak the same language with

If Nigeria is to disintegrate, you Biafran ethusiasts wrongly assume that ANY land (from Benue, Kogi to Delta, Rivers to parts of Edo State) that want or lay claim to is automatically Biafra without thinking that some other people will contest the right of Biafra to these lands.


The first problem will be

1) Which territory constitute Biafra?
2) Do other Nigerians aggree that these territories are Biafra?
3) Who is Igbo, who is not Igbo and who determine who is Igbo?
4) Where does Igbo land begins and where does Edo, Ibiobio, Idoma, Igala lands begins?

OfoIgbo:
Personally I don't mind an Igbo-only Biafra, but I know NK talks about a referendum before the eventual BIafran map is decided, which means other ethnic group must have the right to decide whether they want to be in Biafra or not. It can't be any fairer than that

Will Tiv, Nupe, Igbira, Fulanis, Bachama and Hausa peoples also vote to decide whether they should join Biafra or not?

amuwo1980:
Mr man I said they must be free to chose not manipulated by u afonjas or from even Igbos , why are ur Yorubas so so interested in undermining the igbos , stay on ur own side if the wall

This is not about childish and petty tantrums of Afonja Vs Igbos you guys do on Nairaland.

If Nigeria is going to disintegrate in peaceful ways, it won't be a sole Igbo affairs. Different parts of Nigeria will have to sit down together (as we did in the 1950s while preparing for Independence), discuss and iron out so many complex issues especially BOUNDARIES of the new countries..

Admissionclass:
Once we have portharcourt and opobo we have direcj access to sea nobody can stop us.

You want to repeat the same mistakes Ojukwu made?

ThEGodFaThEr102:
Shut up Jare! You're just running your mouth like tap water. You are on your own. Lazy people. All your people do is to wake up in the morning
and drink Kai Kai while starring at the ya.nsh of women going to the farm. Igbos don't have time for you u pipeline miscreants.

But their States are more developed than Igbo States.

puzzlegate:
Oga, which Delta State are you talking about ? So you expect ifeanyi okowa, Ned nwoko, Benjamin elue, Victor ochie, Emma Ejiofor, Ndudi elumelu, Lucky Onyenauchea Irabor, Godwin Emefiele, Nogozi Okonjo , and millions of Delta Igbos to follow you to God knows where ? ....Oga wake up, you are dreaming. WE ARE BIAFRANS !

No part of Delta State was ever pary of Biafra.
Ojukwu's Biafra stopped at Onitsha Head Bridge.

amuwo1980:
Am very much in support of the southern minorities not being a part of our Biafra but the obasanjo and post civil war boundaries must be redrawn to factory mode , all igboid group must be free to choose where to align to and a passage to the sea is our right

Who will determine which communities are Igboid and which are not?

This matter is not as straight forward as you think.

Admissionclass:
Fulani op
By their comments you shall know them

The Referendum will be for ONLY those who ask for it.

It won't be held outside the Five States of the S/East.

mrvitalis:
Has anyone forced you to be in biafra ?
Even IPOB is not even asking for biafra yet all we want us give the old eastern region referendum to decide if they want to be in Nigeria or not

If we decide to leave we all can now sit and decide what we want

How is that difficult to understand

Why the Old Eastern Region?
The same Eastern Region created by the British in the same ways Nigeria was created?

ThEGodFaThEr102:
Ewu Gambia! Which school did he graduate from?
Afonja, tell us we are waiting o

No be only fighter for democracy, na fighter for bullion vans

Vote for Atiku.

Others will vote for Tinubu.

OdudwaR:
I won't call them superb administrators. They're the masters of deceit who had religion, which is the opiate of the masses, at their disposal. So it was easy for them to use the brainwashing tool to galvanize religious people.

However, they lost most of those wars and offered little or no resistance to the colonizers when they came although they were able to use that to make the colonizers install emirs in places where they were defeated. Apart from Hausas, and parts of Nupes, they didn't really do much.

They studied Islamic History and Jurisprudence which were used to conquered and administered vast territories despite the fact that they were a minority non-indigenes.

The Sokoto Caliphate fought with the British Colonialists until they were defeated.
Try to read the History of Sultan Attahiru-1 and his fights against the British until he was purseued and killed in 1903 around Ashaka, now in Gombe State.
He and his lietenants died fighting.

Because of this heavy resistance and wars , the British after their conquest changed the title from Caliph (Kalifa Russulihah, Amir El Musulimi) to Sultan in 1903.

udemzeus:
Atiku Abubakar

Is it the same Atiku Abubakar that was the Vice-president between 1999-2007 or another one?

dignity33:
I disagree with Reno, all this your narrative was before not presently if it was ever happened . Reno we know you have ancestorial background with Yoruba even your name said it all. South West are full of Area Boys and thugs. Presently in Education they are lacking behind to compare South East. Obasanjo put many Yoruba on strategic positions in Oil sectors during his eight years which I'm aware of that

Obasanjo never ran Chevron, Mobil, Elf, Total and Shell.

These are private multinational companies that hire the best hands to work in their companies.

PlayMaker14:
Some weeks ago, I had a chat with one Bobo Chicago loyalist and told her straight up that her benefactor will only end up eating watery beans at Kirikiri by the time the AGF, Abubakar Malami is done with him.... She tried to refute that, but I had to school her thoroughly and made her realize that she's loosing her sense of belonging pitching tent with the bullion van ambassador.



Having said that, I will also lend my voice and advise the Iragbiji born cocaine lover to go into goat farming or revamp the Cocoa business in the South West with the stolen Lagos funds.

2023 is not for the drug baron and surprisingly, his wife have already started shattering his dreams with unguarded statements.

Who is your preferred candidate for 2023?

StaffofOrayan:
Till today, the biggest opposition to Yoruba nation are Ilorin!

This is false.

Ibrahimmrfish:
Fun fact,in 1830s.Sokoto caliphate was at war with Oyo,Damagaram,Borno,Abuja,Bussa,Igala,So defeating them in one battle was not an impressive act,cause they were facing enemies at all front.

By 1830, the Sokoto Caliphate was still trying to find it feet and naturally encountered resistance from neighbours who didn't want to be conquered and annexed into the growing Sokoto Caliphate.


The rulers of the Caliphate were suberb Administrators, who though they were minority non-indigenous tribe as at 1830, they succeeded in forging unity among diverse tribes under the banners of Islam.

Idiko1:
Yoruba peeps and their revisionist character are specimen to behold. If this Otefan battle was after the occupation of Ogbomoso and Osogbo by the Caliphate, it is debatable and may hold a drop of water. However if it happened before the fall of Ogbomoso and Osogbo, it is a product of delusional imagination.

Did you read the story at all?
The Otefan war happened in 1830. Ogbomosho and Oshogbo were never occupied and if you think they were , please State the date such occupation occurred.


The period between 1825-1855 were period of wars Western half of what we now call the Federal Republic of Nigeria and several kingdoms/empires were key players in that war.

Grace001:
So indirectly the government is telling Nigerians especially youths... To accept the status quo, don’t try to change it because if you do you will get killed

Nigeria must be one, whether you’re patriotic or not just pretend Nigeria must be one. If you try to agitate you will get killed or jail.

Nigerians must continue to love their oppressors that’s their destiny nothing can change it. Come 2023 you’re expected to vote another oppressors that’s your destiny. The next president will complain that debts couldn’t let him perform, same suffering and smiling continues

The government is telling you all to accept your fate suffering and smiling is the system and the way of life of Nigerians, no one can change it.

Peter Obi will perform when he becomes the president.

saphiere:
Lol. And such technology is yet to take down Book haram?

I really wish a woman was in power

Boko Haram are also using modern military technology and they don't depend on charms from Native doctors (who haven't made any advancement in centuries)

helinues:
No, you are one of the mere Igbo people residing in SS.

SS people have made it clear that they can stand on their own without attaching with any other region..

So which of the SS are you talking on their behalf?

What of the Akwa- Cross people?

samyj2477:
when one eastern Governor like IMO gov, delta or Ebonyi gov drops down dead, then all this nonsense will stop. Their family will go down with them. When it happens, then they will begin to take the Biafra struggle serious.

The DSS should investigate this man for trying to murder the Governor of Imo or Delta or Ebonyi State.

F117nighthawk:
It's just 2yrs away, we shall see, u will be shocked to your bone marrow, that change his party campaigned on in 2015 will CHANGE the Nigeria landscape come 2023,let him continue to waste and spend his money

You don't understand how democracy works. Your candidate will not necessarily get into a position because you are campaigning against and hating Tinubu.
Even if Tinubu backs out of the race, this doesn't translate into your preferred candidate getting into power.

Work towards the success of your candidate and leave Tinubu to worry about wastage of his time and money.

ordovicianonly:
Joker � you can never win primary election not to talk of becoming the president. Hausa man is not ready to give southerners the power to rule . Besides Tinubu will be the worst ever president after Buhari if given the chance . You can judge him by the way he is controlling all the resources of Lagos state since 1999 and if you as the governor disagree with him he will make sure the party witch hunt you eg he did it to Ambode and almost did it to Fashola . How can one man pocket the whole of south west with thuggery & godfatherism? Tueh my dogs can’t vote him not to talk of any sane Lagosian or Nigerians

Who do you think should become the president?

adm212144:
Hes right .i could remember vividly when he was celebrating his 60th birthday.We heard late ajimobi saying so I am older in age than the leader .Tinubu stories is everywhere I don’t think it need any proof .

You must be a teenager.
1) Tinubu's 1992 electoral forms with the defunct National Electoral Commission (NEC), the forerunner of INEC put his date of birth as 1952.
2) You probably assumed that Ajimobi just knew Tinubu recently.
Both Ajimobi, Senator Akinyelure and Tinubu were contemporaries and colleagues in the Oil &Gas industry.

Tinubu retired as Treasurer of Mobil while Ajimobi was in Shell and later became MD of National Oil.

wink2015:
NIGERIA should not move from a fulani dictator to another dangerous yoruba man.

whom Edo state humiliated with the word EDO NO BI LAGOS !

If Tinubu gets the APC ticket, he will win the presidential election.
Many of the people who are vehemently opposed to him are only active on social media, some of them don't even have PVC and can't win elections in their own polling units.

F117nighthawk:
And u can be campaigning for him on social media too? We are waiting till 2023,u will all be put to shame

Start mobilizing for your Candidate.
Supporters of Tinubu from all over Nigeria are mobilizing for Tinubu but you are here wailing profusely on social media.

By 2023, you will be defeated once again and you will start crying 'riggging, marginalization or secession'

F117nighthawk:
Desperate to rule at all cost, he will never get there

Elections aren't won on social media

OfoIgbo:
While I understand and appreciate the issues of regional justice that Chief Clarke is pointing at, I also feel so disappointed for SS Igbos.

This is a huge prison for them, because when an opportunity goes to the entire SS, the minorities there will immediately blackmail the SS Igbos out of contention for the opportunity. This happened previously as is exactly why Peter Odili never became the president.

When an opportunity goes to the SE, our SS Igbo brothers are also kept out of it because they are not from the SE, meaning that the SS Igbos are held in a huge psychological prison, with an impregnable glass ceiling. How then will any SS Igbo become the president of Nigeria?

The SS Igbos have not exactly helped their cause by being too clannish and developing that minorities mentality. An Ikwerre man hardly sees himself as Igbo, and will very readily do harm to another Igbo clan as he doesn't see that Igbo clan as related to his clan. Obigbo massacre is a case in point.
An Ogba man sees an Ngwa man, exactly the same way he sees a Yoruba man. He will hardly acknowledge any relationship with the Ngwa man. All these help to ensure the SE man can't accept a SS Igbo man, representing him.
You want someone that behaves, acts and looks like you, to represent you. Not someone that hardly acknowledges any kinship with you.

Truth be told, at the moment I will not want an Ikwerre, Ogba, Ika or any such clans to represent the Igbos in Aso Rock. Ample occurrences have made me cold on that idea, the last of which is the Obigbo massacre. I know Igbos generally are now developing that stand point.

We know some of these anti-Igbo SS Igboids became the way they are through external forces that are hellbent on ensuring the Igbos are not united.

If Igbos are united, I doubt if the SE Igbos will have any qualms with a SS Igbo representing us. But enough suspicion has been injected into the relationship, resulting in the SE Igbos only wishing for a SE Igbo presidency.

Also due to the clannishness of some SS Igbo groups, a Rivers Ndoki man will rather have an Anambra president than a Rivers Ikwerre president.
A Rivers state Egbema man will prefer an Imo president than an Ogba man not minding that Ogba and Egbema are in the same LGA in Rivers state.
This is mainly because some of these SS Igbo clans have chosen to see the world as minorities, and are now more comfortable being insular and clannish.

I think to release the SS Igbos from the psychological political prison they currently abide in, within Nigeria, then there has to be real restructuring, so that they are placed with their genetic and cultural brothers and sisters to eliminate to issues of malevolent forces, forcing them to develop as minorities and encouraging them to severe cultural links with their brothers. It will also eliminate the political marginalisation that has been forced on them, by being placed where they clearly don't belong. They should be with their cultural and genetic brothers. Otherwise the fate of Peter Odili's presidential ambitions will be the eternal fate of any SS Igbo's presidential ambitions.

This is a great fallacy. Any strong Ikwerre, Ndoki, Etche or Ika politician may contest and win the presidential election.

koning:
This analysis is not totally accurate. Sir Alex Ferguson is Scottish, but not English. He is however British.

That's exactly the situation with IFEANYI Okowa and all Igbos from Ika and the rest of Delta. Ika is to Igbos, what Abriba, Ohafia or Nkanu are to Igbos.

Ika is an Igbo clan situated outside core Igbo states. Do not forget that States were artificially carved out.

Igbos are those who accept the Igbo identity and they are right to do so.
Those who reject the Igbo identity are also right.
The same can be said of other tribes.