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Both contested and won.


Nobody was given any ticket because 'they deserved it'

UdechiHD:
The SW won’t answer the question? Or rather, what did Atiku do to deserve the 2019 PDP ticket?

At the PDP 1998 Jos convection,the following people contested for the party's ticket;

Olusegun Obasanjo

Alex Ekwueme

Jim Nwobodo

Don Etiebet

Graham Douglas

Philip Asiodu.



There has never been any presidential primaries in which only members of one tribes/Geopolitical zone participated.

Anago55:
. Preacher preach on!

we didn't hear any of these sermons when Obasanjo was picked from the trashbin to compensate you bittersouls

hypocrite

igbophobe is real

Explain what you mean by'the contest should just be a mere formality'?

Are you suggesting that your opponents shouldn't take the election serious enough for you to win or what?

Actions have consequences.
When you were shouting 'I am Atikulated' and 'Back to Daura' in 2019, did you know that 2023 is your turn or the gods just revealed it to you?

Will 2023 still be your turn,if your preferred candidate, Atiku had won 2019 election?

Ezemust:
in 99 the whole nigeria know it was south west turn.ekwueme contesting the primary with obj was a mere formarlity.obj major oponent was olu falae.everybody agread and peace reigned.in 2007 it was turn of the north.many pple contested but the all abide to their agreement.the igbos have been queit coz we know our real turn is 2023.we will contest with other nigerians and just like 99 and 007 the contest should just be a mere formality.other wise nigeria is playing a shady game

Try to convince Atiku to step down for Peter Obi so an Igbo candidate can get the PDP ticket and contest.

But if you are all shouting 'I am Atikulated' in Feb 2023 and now shouting Biafra or death in March, 2023 because you didn't clinch the vice presidential post you bargained for, nobody will take you serious.

UdechiHD:
This is the truth that a lot of people are joking with. 2023 will make or mar the country. The unity of this country is in the hands of the Igbos.

Who was supposed to feed those children abinitio?

VLTA:
Can not be compared to starving of little children to the point of marasmus and nearly exterminating a tribe

By contesting with others.

Anago55:
. Remind me how Southwest took theirs in 1999

Boko Haram will be a child's play in YOUR REGION.

You can destroy your cities and States if you like but when the Government respond to this your threat , don't start calling on Trump, UN or ICC.

Ezemust:
The 2023 election will be a historic one.it will make or mar Nigeria.the eastern elite are just waiting patiently for the d day to take dia position.i believe igbo presidency will calm alot of things down and the biafra agitation will naturaly die away.but if nigeria try to play any shady game in 2023 then boko haram will be a child play

But you are the ones always coming online calling Nigerians from a certain region of the country 'slaves'.

Whiteangel1234:
Biafra Agitation will take a very dangerous angle after 2023 if igbos are deny the President .. We cannot be a slave and our children slave in Nigeria better everything scatter to your tent oh israel

You are right but a good number and activities of aspirants from the S/East will it difficult to ignore the region in whatever political calculation the parties take.




However, going by the feelings from the PDP, the party will not give It's ticket to the S/East. Gov Wike's interview on Channel T.V Sunrise programme on Sept 04, 2020 was a pointer to that.

EagleNest:
Yes, but the direction the party wants to tow is very important as regards aspirants and votes. This will save time and money. Such an early clarity will help alot!

The civil war ended in 1970 and there were Secondary School students (15-17yeas) whose schooling were disrupted by the war but were constripted into the Biafran Army by Ojukwu and his commanders.

Goodmarlian:
biafran soldier my ass how old is he? If he truly fought in the war he should be older than this even the child soldiers should be in their 70s or 80s freedom is coming. a war that was fought 60 years ago...oga collect your bride and go once we get independence we shall put you all in your place...

There are some inaccuracies in this Vanguard Story.

1) Zik was the leader of the NCNC and was elected as a member of Western Regional House of Assembly.
Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe and NOT Adegoke Adelabu was to be the Premier of Western Region if NCNC had had the majority members in the House because he was the leader of NCNC.

In the parliamentary system,the leader of the party that has the majority members becomes the leader of Government while the leader of the party with the next majority becomes the leader of opposition.

Zik the President-General of the NCNC wasn't going to be a floor member in the House while Adelabu, the Western Secretary of the party becomes the Premier. That wasn't what really happened.


2) Key players and eye witnesses in the events in the Western Regional House of Assembly , including Adegoke Adelabu himself ,Pa Ayo Adebanjo, Anthony Enahoro and many others have written books about the events to correct wrong perceptions and dangerous assumptions.

Please read 'Africa in Ebullition' by Adegoke Adelabu, 'Who won the 1952 Western Regional Election' by Ayo Adebanjo to have a balanced view of the events from both sides of the divide.

3) Hon Adegoke Adelabu was a great and beloved politician in Ibadan, however he seems to have some dictatorial tendencies.

He was the Vice Chairman, the most vocal and charismatic member of the 7 honourables elected on the Platform of THE IBADAN PEOPLE'S PARTY, the local party in Ibadan that appealed to the grassroot but nevertheless was NEVER a branch of the NCNC.

He had a right to join the NCNC in the House of Assembly but it was wrong to assume that other members of this lbadan People's Party have no right to join other parties or they must follow him to the NCNC.

Other legislators elected on the platforms of small parties/Town Unions like Ondo Improvement League, Edo Tax Payers Association, Etu'Edo etc joined either the NCNC or the Action Group without anybody calling them backstabbers/betrayers like Adelabu is trying to portray.

Dedetwo:
I have equally bookmarked the above paragraphs. These were perfidious indictments of cradle of tribal politics in Nigeria. I say shame to the initiators. This is totally against the backdrop of what certain characters would want us to believe. I knew Adelabu was to become the first Premier of western region not Zik. I had preached this sermon on this forum but to no avail

Hon Yekini Ideiye is an Edo man and the incumbent Deputy Speaker of Edo State House of Assembly, so what concern the Yorubas?

wonder233:
Yoruba spineless stooges will be having multiple orgasms by now

Instead of Obaseki to use brain, he was using muscles. He ought to have learnt from Lucky Igbinedion and Babatunde Fashola on how they were able to managed their Godfathers without major crisis.


His fight with Comrade Adams Oshiomole could have been avoided if he had been a little bit more humble and patient.

Obaseki's decamping into the PDP few days to the party's primaries and hijacking the Governorship ticket of the PDP have grave political consequences.
There are so many people in the PDP that aren't happy with that move and they will easily betray Obaseki at the polls. . .just watch out.

MakindeSam:
With the way things are progressing, Obaseki might lose the election. I won't be happy about it though.

The presidential primaries will take place about 25-28 months from now.

Any serious contender suppose to be doing some underground moves, consultations and networking by now just like Atiku and Tinubu are doing now.

EagleNest:
They will contest surely. Don't forget this is still 2020. I know it becomes more effective if there is wide support from Nigerians (not necessarily everyone but majority) thru parties.

It is also an Edo name if an Edo man bears it.


Hon Emmanuel Agbaje (Akoko-Edo-11 constituency) is a member of Edo State House of Assembly.

VirginFinder:
Agbaje is a Yoruba name!

Edos must make up their minds!!

How did you know just by the name?


The names are beautiful names;

Emmanuel= God is with us.

Agbaje(full name= Agbajelola)= He who carries AJE (he deity of trade) to become wealthy.

There are many wonderful and successful people from Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, Osun, Kwara, Kogi and Edo States bearing the name.

The former PDP Governorship candidate in Lagos State, Jimi Agbaje and his younger brother , Segun Agbaje (GMD of GTBank), Sikiru Ayinde 'Barrister' Agbajelola are few of them.

sotall:
From the name we know that he will switch allegiance

How did you know just by the name?


The names are beautiful names;

Emmanuel= God is with us.

Agbaje(full name= Agbajelola)= He who carries AJE (he deity of trade) to become wealthy.

sotall:
From the name we know that he will switch allegiance

When campaigns of hatred against a particular candidate gets to a certain stage, it becomes counter-productive because it will eventually leads to sympathy votes/support for that candidate.

Many people that would have been otherwise neutral will become sensitized and perceive the campaign of calumny as unnecessary witch hunting,close ranks and rally round the candidate.

And you think you have Ph.d on Tinubu's Fate?

49cents:
If you are a good student of history you'd know that no one really masterminds to become a governor in Nigeria how much a president: it always fell on their lap!!

From Jonathan to Yaradua to even Obasanjo himself who was on death row as at 1997.

What was the strategy of Osinbajo to become a VP which Tinubu was personally denied?

Or the strategy of Ambode or Sanwo Olu....there were older commmiosoners who served under Tinubu but today we're. they

It's worse in a state like Imo state where the likes of Ararume has ran for the record 5 times but the likes of unknown Ohakim and Rocha's clinched it at first sitting... I didn't forget Atiku or MKO.

Those pushing Tinubu just want his favours and the money they believe he makes from Lagos state.

It's not by strategy it's by fate

You are 100% correct.

Tflex01:
People are already killing themselves because of Tinubu that is yet to make a single statement about his ambition.

Although some persons that hate Tinubu have their objective reasons but most Igbos that are killing themselves in an attempt to de-market Tinubu are not doing it because of Tinubu, they are only fighting Yorubas in their usual manner.

If Babachir Lawal statements was anti-tinubu, they would have been mocking him and the entire Yoruba race on this same thread.

Funny people.

Support and vote for your candidate whose morality is at par with that of Angel Gabriel and allow Tinubu to try his luck.

Live and let's live.

ODI444:
Is it only me that have noticed that those standing in the gap to Messr Tinubu are all criminals. Yam eaters of first order and since the old maxim has: show me your friend and I will tell you who you are; Tinubu frolicking with known thieves means he’s no better.
These men have to checked.

I honestly don't know how they think Tinubu , a private citizen not holding any political office is their problem or stumbling block to their dream of getting power or Biafra.

MetaPhysical:
Oyatz,
My in-laws are running amock and panicked to see that Tinubu is actually relevant.

They say they own Lagos, and the city is a no mans land since it was FCT. I purposely opened a thread for them to enter and list their ownership in Lagos. Or perharps to list the FG ownership of Lagos. They read it but refused to say ha. They are a "disoriented class"! Tinubu is the only syrup that gets them high! So personally I have decided to open a Tinubu thread each week for them to come and get high.

Tell us the other Contestants that are saints.

ArticleBeast:
Politics in naija has changed. The average Northerner know Tinubu as a thief.

This is your personal opinion. The APC delegates will determine who can win.

mamaafrik:
The smartest move by Tinubu is to aid Oshibajo to be fielded by APC,he can't win a SE,SS,SW and NC vote like oshibajo.
If i were him i will reachout the the other southern tribes for a speaker or senate Presidency and truthful promise to restructure the country and some other confab report moves like change of Constitution and resources control,quota system removal.
Tinubu should know he can sell like Yemi Oshibajo who can get a SW 80-90℅,SE-50-65℅ vote,SS-55-70 vote,NC-57-65℅ vote,NE50-60℅,NE-52-60℅ depending on who pdp chooses but i can't see any strong contender from the North who can beat Oshibajo has down in the whole South and North central.
Tinubu can't win the South not to talk of the not,his religion,antecendent,personality is a disadvantage to the south and if he is not greedt and short sighted ,he should know,Awolowo was even more Popular and charismatic then
If Tinubu comes out,the north will cling to Power again in 2023.
But i hope all southern man and Christian Northerner are collecting their PVc and getting ready to vote.

You are correct but you can't sit down in your house and expect the country to appoint an Igbo man as president without contesting against other candidates.

In the 1999 presidential primaries of the PDP, the following politicians contested for the ticket;

Olusegun Obasanjo

Alex Ekwueme

Jim Nwobodo

Don Etiebet

Graham Douglas

Philip Asiodu.

EagleNest:
Calm down! We want Nigeria to work for everyone. Like it has been done before, it will be good for the future of Nigeria, to support Igbo to lead one or two tenure (depending on performance). That way we'll heal wounds. Igbo by itself alone cannot win, just like other ethnic group. I think if we all reason well, we can get everyone on board and move Nigeria forward.

Are you the PA to God on Tinubu's destiny?

NSK4U:
If another opportunity presents itself, Igbos will still insult the North especially if they are not getting it right, you think Igbos have begging as trademark like Yorubas? NO, WE DON'T and that's why Ngige made it clear to Tinubu and his ilks........

so mark my words for it, Tinubu will never be NIGERIA'S PRESIDENT come 2023 but if he tries anything stubborn like Abiola and Awolowo did, their unfortunate fate will be a child's play for him.


and mind you, we don't hate him for anything, after all no Igbo looks up to him for crumbs like Yorubas who beg him and his wife daily for bread and garri, he is simply not fit to be in the seat of Nigeria's president yet, there are better men from the South East and North than him.

And how did you arrive at this prophecy Sir? Are you an APC party delegates? Are all APC delegates Hausa?

ArticleBeast:
If El rufai contest, Tinubu will lose one time. Hausas will always vote their own.

How?

Has Tinubu ever uttered a word that someone should not contest?

jaxxy:
Bt Tinubu can stop others from contesting.

The topic is not about SE or S/West but about the right of Tinubu as a citizen and a power brokers to contest under the party he laboured to build.

This fact is equally applicable to El-Rufai, Kwankwanso, Atiku, Orji Kaku, Ogbonnaya Onu, Barnabas Gemade and YOU too.



#OpenUpTheDemocraticSpace

Esseite:
Lol.. why didnt the South meet on an open field in 2015 against Jonathan, why did the SW pick vice while fronting the North, yet opposed to the SE picking Vice in 2023 and opting for a Northerner aswell?

The same way the East cant dictate the presidency coming to it on a platter, is same way the South cant dictate the presidency being its turn.

Yes, two wrongs dont make a right definitely, but once bitten twice shy.

No special role.

They, like the rest of the non-eastern Nigerians were on the side of the Federal Military Government.

Deprofessional:
Please, what role did southern Kaduna play during the Biafran - Nigerian war?

I need answers so as to know what next.

You can improve their standards on your own by taking them to welders, panel beater and painter for reenforcement.

Even made-in-china wheel barrows need to be reinforced locally you you want to enjoy them, otherwise they won't last for a month if you use them to pack sand during construction.

haiti007:
Those ones are substandard

You missed the Sarcasm.


The people from that zone on social media are the most vocal critics of Tinubu , including on things that Tinubu has no control over.

merieam16:
Tinubu's handwork in enugu..smh hope sum1' brain as nt crashed with dat building sha