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The presidential primaries will take place about 25-28 months from now.

Any serious contender suppose to be doing some underground moves, consultations and networking by now just like Atiku and Tinubu are doing now.

EagleNest:
They will contest surely. Don't forget this is still 2020. I know it becomes more effective if there is wide support from Nigerians (not necessarily everyone but majority) thru parties.

It is also an Edo name if an Edo man bears it.


Hon Emmanuel Agbaje (Akoko-Edo-11 constituency) is a member of Edo State House of Assembly.

VirginFinder:
Agbaje is a Yoruba name!

Edos must make up their minds!!

How did you know just by the name?


The names are beautiful names;

Emmanuel= God is with us.

Agbaje(full name= Agbajelola)= He who carries AJE (he deity of trade) to become wealthy.

There are many wonderful and successful people from Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, Osun, Kwara, Kogi and Edo States bearing the name.

The former PDP Governorship candidate in Lagos State, Jimi Agbaje and his younger brother , Segun Agbaje (GMD of GTBank), Sikiru Ayinde 'Barrister' Agbajelola are few of them.

sotall:
From the name we know that he will switch allegiance

How did you know just by the name?


The names are beautiful names;

Emmanuel= God is with us.

Agbaje(full name= Agbajelola)= He who carries AJE (he deity of trade) to become wealthy.

sotall:
From the name we know that he will switch allegiance

When campaigns of hatred against a particular candidate gets to a certain stage, it becomes counter-productive because it will eventually leads to sympathy votes/support for that candidate.

Many people that would have been otherwise neutral will become sensitized and perceive the campaign of calumny as unnecessary witch hunting,close ranks and rally round the candidate.

And you think you have Ph.d on Tinubu's Fate?

49cents:
If you are a good student of history you'd know that no one really masterminds to become a governor in Nigeria how much a president: it always fell on their lap!!

From Jonathan to Yaradua to even Obasanjo himself who was on death row as at 1997.

What was the strategy of Osinbajo to become a VP which Tinubu was personally denied?

Or the strategy of Ambode or Sanwo Olu....there were older commmiosoners who served under Tinubu but today we're. they

It's worse in a state like Imo state where the likes of Ararume has ran for the record 5 times but the likes of unknown Ohakim and Rocha's clinched it at first sitting... I didn't forget Atiku or MKO.

Those pushing Tinubu just want his favours and the money they believe he makes from Lagos state.

It's not by strategy it's by fate

You are 100% correct.

Tflex01:
People are already killing themselves because of Tinubu that is yet to make a single statement about his ambition.

Although some persons that hate Tinubu have their objective reasons but most Igbos that are killing themselves in an attempt to de-market Tinubu are not doing it because of Tinubu, they are only fighting Yorubas in their usual manner.

If Babachir Lawal statements was anti-tinubu, they would have been mocking him and the entire Yoruba race on this same thread.

Funny people.

Support and vote for your candidate whose morality is at par with that of Angel Gabriel and allow Tinubu to try his luck.

Live and let's live.

ODI444:
Is it only me that have noticed that those standing in the gap to Messr Tinubu are all criminals. Yam eaters of first order and since the old maxim has: show me your friend and I will tell you who you are; Tinubu frolicking with known thieves means he’s no better.
These men have to checked.

I honestly don't know how they think Tinubu , a private citizen not holding any political office is their problem or stumbling block to their dream of getting power or Biafra.

MetaPhysical:
Oyatz,
My in-laws are running amock and panicked to see that Tinubu is actually relevant.

They say they own Lagos, and the city is a no mans land since it was FCT. I purposely opened a thread for them to enter and list their ownership in Lagos. Or perharps to list the FG ownership of Lagos. They read it but refused to say ha. They are a "disoriented class"! Tinubu is the only syrup that gets them high! So personally I have decided to open a Tinubu thread each week for them to come and get high.

Tell us the other Contestants that are saints.

ArticleBeast:
Politics in naija has changed. The average Northerner know Tinubu as a thief.

This is your personal opinion. The APC delegates will determine who can win.

mamaafrik:
The smartest move by Tinubu is to aid Oshibajo to be fielded by APC,he can't win a SE,SS,SW and NC vote like oshibajo.
If i were him i will reachout the the other southern tribes for a speaker or senate Presidency and truthful promise to restructure the country and some other confab report moves like change of Constitution and resources control,quota system removal.
Tinubu should know he can sell like Yemi Oshibajo who can get a SW 80-90℅,SE-50-65℅ vote,SS-55-70 vote,NC-57-65℅ vote,NE50-60℅,NE-52-60℅ depending on who pdp chooses but i can't see any strong contender from the North who can beat Oshibajo has down in the whole South and North central.
Tinubu can't win the South not to talk of the not,his religion,antecendent,personality is a disadvantage to the south and if he is not greedt and short sighted ,he should know,Awolowo was even more Popular and charismatic then
If Tinubu comes out,the north will cling to Power again in 2023.
But i hope all southern man and Christian Northerner are collecting their PVc and getting ready to vote.

You are correct but you can't sit down in your house and expect the country to appoint an Igbo man as president without contesting against other candidates.

In the 1999 presidential primaries of the PDP, the following politicians contested for the ticket;

Olusegun Obasanjo

Alex Ekwueme

Jim Nwobodo

Don Etiebet

Graham Douglas

Philip Asiodu.

EagleNest:
Calm down! We want Nigeria to work for everyone. Like it has been done before, it will be good for the future of Nigeria, to support Igbo to lead one or two tenure (depending on performance). That way we'll heal wounds. Igbo by itself alone cannot win, just like other ethnic group. I think if we all reason well, we can get everyone on board and move Nigeria forward.

Are you the PA to God on Tinubu's destiny?

NSK4U:
If another opportunity presents itself, Igbos will still insult the North especially if they are not getting it right, you think Igbos have begging as trademark like Yorubas? NO, WE DON'T and that's why Ngige made it clear to Tinubu and his ilks........

so mark my words for it, Tinubu will never be NIGERIA'S PRESIDENT come 2023 but if he tries anything stubborn like Abiola and Awolowo did, their unfortunate fate will be a child's play for him.


and mind you, we don't hate him for anything, after all no Igbo looks up to him for crumbs like Yorubas who beg him and his wife daily for bread and garri, he is simply not fit to be in the seat of Nigeria's president yet, there are better men from the South East and North than him.

And how did you arrive at this prophecy Sir? Are you an APC party delegates? Are all APC delegates Hausa?

ArticleBeast:
If El rufai contest, Tinubu will lose one time. Hausas will always vote their own.

How?

Has Tinubu ever uttered a word that someone should not contest?

jaxxy:
Bt Tinubu can stop others from contesting.

The topic is not about SE or S/West but about the right of Tinubu as a citizen and a power brokers to contest under the party he laboured to build.

This fact is equally applicable to El-Rufai, Kwankwanso, Atiku, Orji Kaku, Ogbonnaya Onu, Barnabas Gemade and YOU too.



#OpenUpTheDemocraticSpace

Esseite:
Lol.. why didnt the South meet on an open field in 2015 against Jonathan, why did the SW pick vice while fronting the North, yet opposed to the SE picking Vice in 2023 and opting for a Northerner aswell?

The same way the East cant dictate the presidency coming to it on a platter, is same way the South cant dictate the presidency being its turn.

Yes, two wrongs dont make a right definitely, but once bitten twice shy.

No special role.

They, like the rest of the non-eastern Nigerians were on the side of the Federal Military Government.

Deprofessional:
Please, what role did southern Kaduna play during the Biafran - Nigerian war?

I need answers so as to know what next.

You can improve their standards on your own by taking them to welders, panel beater and painter for reenforcement.

Even made-in-china wheel barrows need to be reinforced locally you you want to enjoy them, otherwise they won't last for a month if you use them to pack sand during construction.

haiti007:
Those ones are substandard

You missed the Sarcasm.


The people from that zone on social media are the most vocal critics of Tinubu , including on things that Tinubu has no control over.

merieam16:
Tinubu's handwork in enugu..smh hope sum1' brain as nt crashed with dat building sha

Congratulations bro, God will bless all your works.


Hausa Amaka!

There are made-in-Nigeria Keke.

haiti007:
Nawa oo, I was expecting to see a brand coming to instil fear into those Indian manufacturers. Their reign should be stopped asap. Their prices are too exorbitant, no thanks to the FGN

Imagine them selling just one Okada for over 200k, Keke napep for almost 700k

But on getting into this thread, I was disappointed, the topic no follow at all

Yusuf is the Arabic equivalent of the Hebrew name, Youseff.

Joseph is the anglicized version of the same name.

Ooni:
what is it?

Is Southern Nigeria,a political party?

RTSC:
The only southern candidate we know in 2023 is from the South east.

That is what southern Nigeria will vote for.

Any other southern candidate from any other ethnic group is on his own.

No political party goes into an election by deliberately putting itself in a disadvantaged position.


If APC should give it's ticket to the SE, it may trigger some internal rumblings within the party such that the party becomes vulnerable and apart from this fact, the PDP will do everything to defeat the party ,which unfortunately will be easier.

However, if a SE candidate contest with aspirants from other parts of the country and emerge through a broad based support of most of the party power brokers, the APC can go into the election as a united family and stand a better chance than the first scenerio of shutting out other aspirants except Igbo aspirants.

LegendHero:
No matter how you spin it, an Igbo candidate in APC will fail.

Understand the election trend in Nigeria. The SS and SE most times always vote the same way to an extent and that is a blessing and a curse at the same time.

Let’s do a simple analogy. Let’s say APC field Okorocha and PDP fields Peter Obi in an election.

For the SW: the vote will be divided because the Yorubas usually vote 55/45 when the candidate is not a Yoruba. Check all elections where the leading candidates are outsiders to understand what I mean. I score Okorocha 55% here.

For the SS: I can bet it that Peter Obi will win at least 70% of their votes and Okorocha will only muster maximum 30%.

For the SE: Peter Obi will win with at least 85-90% of the votes.

For the NC: It will almost be 50/50% for both candidates.

For the NW & NE: The vice presidential candidate will be the determinant. There will be voter apathy and even if APC will win it won’t be over 60%. The North will be somehow indifferent and especially with how Igbos constantly burn bridges with their unguarded utterances. let’s say Okorocha win 60%.

Now do the Maths yourself to see that APC will dig their own grave if they present an Igbo president against an Igbo presidential candidate in PDP.

What do you exactly mean by the nebulous term 'NORTH' and who is one of their own?

Do Tiv, Bachama, Jukun or Nupe consider a Fulanis candidate jostling to succeed another Fulani president as one of their own or do Fulanis,Hausa, Bolawa or KareKare people consider a Kwara, Igala, Idoma or Tiv candidate as one of their own?

Do all the States in the North vote for the same party?

ipain:
it is not a lie. He Brought out the ads and the news paper. Check him out on twitter.

Bros, southern unity was destroyed further in 2015.

The North will never sacrifice their own for a Southerner like what was done in 2015.

Let that sink in

But don't you think it's Tinubu and not you that should worry about that?


Irrespective of the outcome, Tinubu or ANY citizen interested in contesting for the presidency of Nigeria should be allowed and encouraged to do so.

It's better Igbos rally round and project one of their own for other Nigerians to embrace and vote for to become the President instead of concentrating their energy on how to stop Tinubu or any Yoruba candidate.

Eriokanmi:
nice one. Tinubu doesn't even have the pedigree of Awolowo. What Awolowo did to the north by liberating them, clothe them but was still betrayed by them in the last minute, who's tinubu, the corrupt selfish fellow to win the hearts of the north ?

But it's Atiku's turn?


It's better you start supporting your candidate and leave the Yorubas out of your problems.

If you no Yoruba man runs for the presidency, how will that equate to Igbo presidency?

The sky is enough for all the birds to fly together.

Ojiofor:
Yoruba calm down 2023!
It is not your turn calm down!

The Constitution is clear on who can contest for the Presidency.


Tinubu should contest for the Presidency. He has a right to do so, he has laboured to build political structures and has his supporters.


You should support Atiku, Kwankwanso, Bode George, El-Rufai or whoseever you like.

It's a free world. Live and let's live.

MrColdsweat:
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Look, i don't have time for yarriba hypocrisy.

You yarribas were scared of contesting against jonathan now you open your mouths to accuse people of what you are guilty of....

Its okay to destroy the saraki dynasty in kwara but you accuse bode George of being hateful and jealous because he wants to do the same thing tinubu did in kwara state.

Atiku, saraki, orji are thieves but osibanjo and tinubu are saints.

You want tinubu to remain in the leadership of Lagos but you want the north to step down and handover leadership of Nigeria to you in 2023.

It's like you all have become so shameless and senseless that you no longer recognize simple hypocrisy.

If both APC and PDP should zone their ticket to the S/East as you suggested, it mean only Igbo Politicians will participate in the primaries of these parties.

Have you seen any presidential primaries I Nigeria in which only members of one tribe participate?

By the way, how are you going to force the APC and the PDP not to sell presidential forms to any of their members who is not an Igbo?

Ezeama400:
Igbos are not scared to contest against anyone.. What's is good for Adamma is also good for Funke. The two major political parties should zone their tickets to Igbo land like it was done to yorubas in 1999..


This link I sent below has contradicted your opinion about Igbos interest in 2023..

Igbos in Apc are warning up as well


https://www.google.com/search?q=South+East+president+2023..+PDP+nairaland&oq=South+East+president+2023..+PDP+nairaland&aqs=chrome..69i57.23400j0j4&client=ms-android-transsion-tecno-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Your observations may be superficially correct but your inferences are not correct. The pronunciation, origins and meaning of those names are very different in the two languages. However, Yoruba, Bini, Ishan, Ikwerres, Igbo, Igala, Itshekiri and other tribes in between are all related in different degrees.

If you start from Ibadan in the West and start moving eastwards, you will notice that the languages spoken along the way keep changing slightly by every 10 km until it finally become Igbo language around River Niger.
It's a language spectrum with Igbo at one extreme ,Yoruba at the other extreme with Bini, Urhobo, Itshekiri,Igala, Ishan, Ikwerres, Ika ,Olukumi in between.

Obalatule:
Ikenne means mother's strength in Igbo, but I would love to hear how it is pronounced in yoruba tongue..... obvious these people can't be Igbo but the town sounds and is written like Igbo(from my point of view).....I may be biased though

You were the one that said Atiku is better than Tinubu to succeed Buhari as President in 2023 and I asked you to tell us in five ways you think he is a better candidate but rather than taking up the challenge, you are asking me about what I never said.


Anyway, whatever you list or think are your personal opinions and there are millions of other Nigerians who may not share such opinions.

This is why we have to conduct election to decide who the majority of the Nigerian people prefer. QED

BafanaBafana:
List 5 ways which Tinubu is better than Atiku please