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What stops Mazi Nnamdi Kanu, Mazi Uche Ukachukwu, Hon. Chigozie Okafor and Lolo Stella Odua'h from pooling resources together, buy Ngakalagu Cement , expand it's operational base to become one of the largest cement companies in Africa?

hungryboy:
Dangote is involved in cement manufacturing business with very few competitors(Bua and lafarge) because you need very huge capital to set it up, majority of his wealth is in the cement division of his holdings, yes, he has gotten tax waivers and custom duty exemptions from Government, but he is not the only businessman given this favours.

Licenses have been issued by Government to so many businessmen to build refineries, very few have broke ground, na only Dangote were don almost finish him own, in a few years now, when he adds maybe $10b or more to his networth, una go begin cry say na Buhari give am monopoly to build refinery.

You guys like changing the narratives in order to appear as victims;


1) Obasanjo called all the importers of cement to a meeting and told them Nigeria couldn't continue to import cement.

2) He asked them to transform from importers of cement to manufacturer by applying for license to build cement Factories.

3) Many importers obtained the license but only BUA and Dangote finished their Cement manufacturing factories. Ibeto didn't during Obasanjo's time but wanted to continue importation of cement but the Government stopped all the importation.

4) Yar'Adua became president in 2007 and started reversing many of the economic policies of the proceeding Obasanjo administration, including lifting the ban on importation of cement which allowed Ibeto to be back in cement business.

5) I think Ibeto later completed his own Cement manufacturing company much more later after the ban was restored.

BiafraforTrump:
Is Jonathan Igbo?. You Yorubas can be foolish eeh, why did Obasanjo bring Ibeto down in the first place and you to turn around to shout your usual "victim mentality" crap.
Why not allow people move their businesses forward on a level playing ground than witch hunting ONE and expect subsequent regimes to lift him up, is that not pure foolishness sponsored by envy and wickedness.

There were

1) West African Larfarge Cement company, Ewekoro, Ogun State.

2) Nkalagu Cement Factory

3) Benue Cement Company, Gboko, Benue State.

4) Ashaka Cement Company, Gombe State.



In 2003, Dangote Industries Ltd, bought the Benue Cement Company and merged it with their newly built Obajana Cement Company, Obajana, Kogi State to form Dangote Cement PLC.

Iamgrey5:
Was there truly a monopoly in the cement industry too.

We had Lafarge(Elephant) in the Sw

North had one in Benue or so

And I believe one was also in the East.

In reality because of our Porous borders, no one ever enjoys Monopoly in Nigeria.

You people believe in peddling propaganda.

There is no business that Dangote is doing that he is the only one doing the business.

Bethel4Life:
Wo will forget how obj gave dangote the leeway to monopolize the cement industry by persecuting competitors and allowing tax cuts on dangote inports..

You haven't answered my question;

Is there any DNA that is ONLY among one tribe and can NOT be found elsewhere?



*One person doesn't make a tribe.

mrvitalis:
Google is your friend ... DNA can be traced to your great great great 12 generation father's tribe ...it's simple

Okay, what is the true picture?




Is there any DNA that is exclusive to a particular tribe and can NOT be found elsewhere?

mrvitalis:
Oga that's not true

Okay, you have won.

Feel free to believe whatever makes you happy!

vicenzo:
Ogori mangogo was never grouped as a Yoruba sub group at any time in history. They always maintained they were distinct. I know Ogori mangogo well, I have even been there.

2. Awolowo was Yoruba political leader when he was alive and his emergence helped nip Ijebu Yoruba denial on the bud.

3. Wars and persecution affect people self esteem leading to self denial. War divided Germany into East and West, the Manchurians started denying their identity with many of them claiming Han after the fall of China to British with the Han Chinese blaming the Manchurians for the fall.
So you are wrong. The persecution that post civil war Nigeria subjected Igbos under is the key driver of identity crisis in hitherto proud Igbo groups outside SE.

4. Ethnic groups might be man made, but common mother language and culture is not man made . Its a natural process.

5. True. Like many Akoko Ondo communities are actually Edoid speakers though claim Yoruba identity and speak Yoruba as a second language.

6. Hmm.

7. I disagree. You are not who you say you are, if not any one can wake up one day and claim to be a lawyer and enter court room to litigate?
Or I can wake up oneday and say that I am now Yoruba, that my ancestors migrated from Ife?

You can't wake up oneday and change your identity, because your identity doesn't exist in isolation, its connected to those around you.

The problem Ndiigbo has with Ikwerre identity is that for it to stand, they have to lie against Ndiigbo, they have to erase our own history by presenting us in the mould of empire builders who colonized them and imposed our language on them, or as supermen who has the powers to make a people to abandon their own mother tongue and take up our own just by merely interacting with them.
They have to toy with our intelligence by telling us they showed up here on Bini language when our ancestors told us they havd always been Igbo speaking.

The normal Igbo don't care about Ikwerre, problem is that Ikwerre identity as independent ethnicity cannot stand without them first of all distorting Igbo history and presenting Ndiigbo in bad light. Ikwerre nationalism is built on Igbophobia which starts with distortion of our ancestors history, and its in trying to challenge these historical distortions of Ikwerres against Ndiigbo that an independent onlooker get the feeling that Ndiigbo is forcing Ikwerre to be Igbo, when nothing could be farther from the truth.

There is no DNA that is exclusive to a particular tribe.

The most appropriate thing is that certain DNA components are more common among certain tribes in varying percentages.

The DNA profile of Ijaws will be more similar to that of the Ogonis and Ikwerres than that of Bachama people of Adamawa State.

mrvitalis:
Oga DNA analysis would show u your tribe ...it's no big issue

1) Obviously you don't know the Ogori-Mangogos. You can Google them or visit their Facebook page.

2) Awolowo was a great Politician but never the leader of the Yorubas.
Throughout his life, there were great Yoruba politicians who were not in the same political parties with him.

Awolowo had nothing to do with Awori.
He was from Ikenne, a small town in Remoland.

3) Civil War happens all over the world, it's not a pecular thing to Nigeria and don't define or change ethnic identities.

4) Ethnic groups are man-made groupings and are NOT grouped into water tight divisions.

5) Ethnic groups overlap in all parts of the world where people live in close proximity unlike in the desert or thick jungles where people live in isolated communities for long time.

6) Ethnic groups are NOT permanently fixed, they dissolve and evolve with time.

Where are the Biblical Jebbusites, the Hittites, Moabites and the Amonites now?

Where now are the Celts, Saxon, Anglos, the Vikings, the Vandals of Medieval Britain?

In 1256, there were no ethnic groups called Yoruba, Fulanis, Igbos or Hausa.

7) In the long run, ethnic groups are SELF identified groups. We are who we say we are.

vicenzo:
This is nonsense write up. Ogori mangogo has Yoruba components just as ethnic groups like Ugep, Okirika, Kalabari, Andoni, etc have Igbo components. But they have evolved independent language mixed with other ethnicities far more in proportion than few things they borrowed from Igbos, so Igbos don't claim them.

No linguist or anthropologist ever grouped the Ogori Mangogo as Yoruboid, let alone Yoruba.
They have never been claimed by the Igbos, not for once.

Stop obfuscating issues this Yoruba man. The Ikwerre Igbo issue in Yoruba land would have been perfectly mirrored by Ijebu vs Yoruba issue, if not for the emergence of Awolowo as Yoruba leader.
And if Yoruba ever fight war against Nigeria, the Ikwerre issue can be repeated with the Aworis as the target group.

Please replace the word 'denial' in this post with 'identification'


You can't determine for Ikwerres or any group of people what their identity should be, this is arrogance taken too far.



The Igbos- Ikwerres relationship have similarities in all parts of the world.

Have you seen Idomas coming online to always insist that Igedes are Idomas?

Have you seen Kanuris always coming online to insist that Mangawa are Kanuris?

How many times do you see Yorubas coming online to insist that Ogori-Mangogos must accept the Yoruba ethnic tag?

Do Ijaws always come online to claim Ogbia must accept Ijaw identity?

All these people decide for themselves where they belong and most easily accept the ethnic affiliations voluntarily with a minority sub-groups claiming otherwise.

I have seen one of my ex-students whose Surname is Ogunmola and whose family speak Yoruba Language naturally without learning it but said they aren't Yoruba and also not Ebira but simply on their own as Ogori-Mangogo.

kingzizzy:
So what is the difference between someone from Umuahia and some from Diobu in Ikwerre? They both speak Igbo and have Igbo surnames. If the only difference is denial then what it means that tribe based on acceptance or denial. In other words, if the Umuahia people decide tomorrow that they are not Igbo, then that means they are not. If the Ngwa man of Abia, the Nsukka man of Enugu, the Ezza man of Ebonyi all decide that they are not Igbo, then they are not because the only thing that separates them from Ikwerre is denial.

Being Igbo is not based on denial or acceptance, its all about your ancestral language and ancestral surname. Ikwerre people are just as Igbo as anybody else.

Most Communities that have existed side by side and INTERACTED for centuries will of course have similar DNA make up.

Many Igbos will show similar DNA structures to Idoma, Igala, Ijaw, Ibibio, Efiks etc.

Most Hausas also have DNA from Bolewa, KareKare, Fulanis and surrounding tribes.

Many Yoruba people have Bini,Nupe, Afemai, Fon and Ibariba ancesteries and this show similar DNA structures to these surrounding tribes.

mrvitalis:
Sure DNA would show who u are related to , mostly likely tribe and origin ....infact clan u migrated from ....is all science

Most black Americans can trace their root to their village with just DNA

The last one I read was about okrika ...showing them having 50% Igbo DNA

You have just buttressed my points.

*There are some clans that aren't ancenstrally related to the Nris but nevertheless accept the Igbo identity because they have the right to do.

*There are groups like Ikwerres and Ekpeyes who speak similar languages like Igbo but aren't ancenstrally related to the Nris and reject the Igbo tag because they have the right to do so.


Issues like this happens all over the world because ethnic groups are man-made creations and it's always difficult to decide where one ethnic group ends and where another one begins. For example,

Mangawa & Kanuri
Ogiri-Mangogo & Yoruba

Akoko-Edo &Edo& Yoruba

Igede & Idoma

oceania100:
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Normally, members of political parties who move from one campaign rallies to another, canvass voters to vote for their parties and ensure that their parties are rigged out during elections are doing so with the aims of being rewarded when their parties win.


The forms of rewards can be through awards of contracts, political appointments, employments, allocations of high yielding shops in Publicly owned markets etc

Esseite:
How does one reward another by giving them work during elections, are they corpers, security personnel or lecturers?...

You should be rewarded by giving you the chance to loot?..

We the youths are just useless... we are dying gradually but still afraid to die..

How many times will Tinubu be cut to size?

Salvador1:
Tinubu is banking on buhari to win election in 2023.

Now that he has been cut into sizes I wonder where all the votes will come from?

Ngige ought to be more matured than this.


How can a 67year old grandpa be saying all these?

techmo:
I am a VI boy you are a Mushin boy in a public hearing

I am 67 you are seven years younger than me


Lol

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The creation of COR Region was based on the quest for political recognition for the non-Igbo peoples of the defunct Eastern Region and was totally different from contemporary agitations for Sttates creation which is based largely on getting Federal allocations and not necessarily ethnic identities.

The tribal groups who considered themselves Igbos didn't struggle to be included in Calabar-Ogoja-Rivers (COR) Movement.

Apart from the COR Region, you didn't respond to other points raised in my earlier post.

kingzizzy:
Wawa people were at the forefront of the creation of Enugu state, it does not make then any less Igbo. Ngwa people want Aba state, Nsukka people want Adada state. The fact that people want a separate administrative area does not take away who they are

Neither Ikwerres, Etche nor Ekpeyes being discussed are Yorubas,so how did you manage to drag Yorubas into this topic.

Over 95% of the Yoruba people don't even know that there are some people called Ikwerres, Etche or Ekpeyes.

If you are in doubt, just ask a random guy on the Street of Ikorodu, Ondo, Ibadan, Ogbomoso, Ijebu-Ode or Shaki whether he believes Ikwerres, Etche and Ekpeyes are Igbos. He will most likely tell you, he doesn't know these people.

Malawian:
The reason Yoruba's cliim to be united and one common wealth is because they are all parasites in the Nigerian state. They have nothing they can drag with one another for sustenance.

Both sides have very valid points.


1) Pro Igbos: they are basing their points on similarities of languages and culture.

2) Anti-Igbo: They are basing their points on their NON- NRI ancestries.

Afam4eva:
I've always maintained the fact that people are who they say they are whether or not they're playing politics with it and that is why for a while now i've come to accept Ikwerres as a distinct ethnic group because they're far gone and nothing can make them Igbo again. Infact, some of them have resorted to lies just to push this non-Igbo narrative but it's still acceptable, afterall there are are ethnic groups in other parts of the world that have similar language and culture.

Now for other Igboid groups in Rivers and Delta States especially Etche/Omuma, Ndoki, Aniocha/Oshimili, i've always wondered why they would deny being Igbo when they're the most Igbotic of the Igboid groups in Delta and Rivers state. For some reason, i can give a pass to Ikwerre, Ekpeye, Ukwuani, Ika and Ndoni but the former groups i mention are unmistakably Igbo and not just because of language and culture but because they are contiguous with Igboland and if not for state creation that took them to a different state, they would have naturally been in either Abia/Imo or Anambra.

I like the fact that the OP opened his mind and did his research and come to a logical conclusion which is what many people cannot do because they want to take their current narrative to the grave. Even though i don't think you need a research to see that you are Igbo. By your language and the culture/traditions you practice, it should be seld evident.

Is this paper which could have been written by anybody superior to the Ogbakor Ikwerre declaration of 1963 which defined their ethnic group?

I hope you know that Ikwerres were part of the Calabar-Ogoja-Rivers (COR) Movement of the 1950s agitating for the creation of a separate Region for the Minorities in the defunct Eastern Region?

They also presented Memos to the Willinks Commission of 1959 to look into the fears of the fears of Minorities.

selemempe:
can you tell us with evidence what Igbos did to ikwere and ekpeye etc during the old eastern region
Look at this old document from 1960s...see what ikwere was described as?

Are you serious with this weighty allegation because I know someone who is already madly in love with Rekhina?

Amatarasha:
After allegedly fvcking the tight pussy of Islam Rekhina this dude has gone mad with Igbo obsession ,
Jati jati

Elon Musk is an American.


What must people don't fully appreciate is that self identification is paramount and ;

'We are who we say we are'.



Many Americans have European,African, Arab or Amerindian ancestries but are nevertheless, proud Americans.

The Late Steve Job of Apple had an Arab father but Jobs didn't identify as an Arab but an American.

PSconsultinga:
Because he is African. His dad is South African and he was born in Pretoria, South African. Because his business is mostly based in the US doesn't make him less African. In fact, he runs a multinational business empire with footprints across the world. The fact is the fact.

Besides, you can't be the fifth richest person in the world by selling only in Africa.

Check the Human Development Index (HDI) ranking and remove Osun from this line.

Blackking98:
Lowest level of development?
If Rivers or Akwa ibom is lowest develop, where do u place osun or zamfara or ekiti or kebbi? You're not ok honestly.

Per Capital GDP is also reliable.

rdokoye:
The only thing that matters is HDI. Unfortunately, Nigeria is too corrupt and ethnocentric to compile real statistics on living standards. For now, self-evaluation is the most accurate form of statistical evidence.

The fact that states like Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom feature at the top, only proves one thing. That Nigeria has failed in the diversification of its economy, and is still, really, just an oil economy.

Can't you see that the rating is a NBS publication.




The NBS don't just publish statistics but they gather some primary data from appropriate sources like the CBN, NUC, Schools, Nigerian Customs Service etc.

The only reason you agree with this publication is because it agrees with your expectations to some extent, otherwise you would have said it's 'Audio Statistics'

OfoIgbo:
What I am inferring is that, if CBN was not a part of this effort, NBS would have come up with unjustifiable figures.

NBS would have claimed that Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, Ondo are the leading states GDP-wise

What kind of mentality is this?


Are you saying all the people that have died before Isah Funtua had meant bad for Nigeria?

Freestainworld:
h will retire me if I meant bad for Nigeria, if not he will retire you for supporting evil

Atiku/Obi will create Biafra if you support them to win in 2023.

kaima1984:
They are not after producing a president, what they are asking for is BIAFRA is that too much?

I don't know about that but I have not seen him talking against any other religion.

Luckysbab:
And you do not think the person you are advocating for is harassing and insulting the sensibilities of those of other Faith's with his spam?

So Kanu has finally joined the APC and even constesting for the APC presidential ticket after he and IPOB have misled millions of Igbo youths (some unto death) saying they aren't participating in the Zoo politics!





I know it, Kanu has compromised and most likely was working for the APC during the 2019 elections with the ways he was saying #No elections in Biafraland!

Asgard13:
Yoruba can never ever stand in a contest that involves igbos

Oga, kalu is in Apc ... tell your god Tinubu not to japa!

Kalu is contesting primaries in Apc ... and nothing Yoruba go do about am... absolutely nothing... but to contest or boycott

Yoruba; no levels!

Which position is Jubrin from Sudan occupying in the Cabal?

Nels55:
Buhari - The figure head or the boss
Mamaan Daura - Consigliere acting as the underboss
Abba Kyari - Political head (The smart one)
Isa Funtua - The money bag, in control of the finance of the cabals..



These are the men who controls the affairs of my nation..


Am I happy that the third and fourth is gone?? By no means No, my condelsences to their families.. I believe in a 2nd chance but its God who gives and takes...

They held power like there is no tomorrow, filled with extreme hatred for southern regions, believing its their divine right to rule this nation.. You see, the North despite been at the helm of affairs since the civil war was not happy with the south simply cause of democracy which gave the south the equal right to demand their dividends.


Obj, redistributed alot of things which they were not happy with, Jonathan a minority also empowered alot of the south.. Buhari and his gang felt threatened, upon winning the presidency despite the support of the South west decided to cleanse the south from power..

The rate of Nepotism, tribal favouritism was second to none, the Kaduna mafia era returned, Nigeria got hot with poverty and unimaginable crimes, all this cause of disunity and the politics of winner takes it all..


Today, 2 of the most powerful men in Nigeria are gone, just like that.. I wonder what the other 2 will think..


Buhari barely survived last 2 years from a terrible illness, I believe he can see this as a sign to make amends.. A leader is one who acts as a father to everyone..

Just couple of weeks ago, same Isa Funtua was interviewed and when ask if the SE can be given opportunity to lead the nation, he became suddenly angry filled with hatred and even cautioned the interviewer about even dreaming such a thing..



This is a big lesson in life, nothing is certain...


Love all, embrace all and never think we are here forever...
Adieu isa Funtua

Who are you sir?

Are you the Chairman of APC or the Chairman of PDP?

Are you one of the delegates to the conventions of the parties?

Amitex:
For Nigeria to remain one and for fairness, te next president MUST be Igbo. Thereafter, MiddleBelt.. if SW thinks otherwise, then await ATIKU presidency. I have sad my own. SW have used their slots and cannot be greedy otherwise South loses.
FYI I am Niger delta, just saying the truth.

Prof sir,


Why do you always follow Righteousness89 from thread to thread to correct the grammatical errors in his posts?

This action may look like an attempt to intimidate him from posting his views about the needs to be righteous especially in preparation for the life-after-death.

Dotherightthing:
21. Please spell words correctly when you post, and try to use perfect grammar and punctuation.

Hmn,be careful.


Most of these scammers are also Professors of 'Womanization' with sugar coated tongues.
Before we can say Jack Robbison, you will just discovered that you have fallen for him and only God knows his real intention.

DortmundGirl:
So Jonas if you are no scammer, give me your details in germany, so we can confirm.

I'm residing in Dortmund, germany too. But I don't want any relationship with you, just want to find out if you are real. I will gladly inform you where to find other black women in germany, if you are real.

Greetings

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