₦airaland Forum

So who will now grant the referendum for Biafra?

(a) Jubrin from Sudan

(b) Tinubu

(c) National Assembly

Ojiofor:
You IPOBs always think like a day old child.Delusional at its best. Atiku can not grant you what is not in constitution.
Do you know how many MASSOB members that died in Onitsha when Obi was governor of Anambra state?
Obi will deal with you IPOBs more than Buhari if he become president tomorrow.Tell your Supreme leader to join politics.

Why can't you use courage to win the Governorship ticket of the PDP in your State?

SmartProf:
Weakness is a choice but Ambode's weakness is legendary. Even when this replacement is needed, he couldn't even get nominated to fly the APC flag in a bid to become a senator. Ambode today is a political rag because life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage, and he lacks courage. Weldone Obaseki for having brave balls in dismissing a greedy political godfather.

If Atiku becomes the president in 2023, he will grant the request for referendum for Biafra and if the referendum scales through, Biafra will be established while the Vice President then, Mr Peter Obi will be seconded to become the first president of Biafra.

Ojiofor:
You guys are always talking about Referedum as if it is a done deal,who is going to grant you this referendum?
Wake up and face reality.

It will be worse than North Korea.

flyingpig:
there you go, full of arrogance and never tolerating contrary views on how a country should be run. It's self-evident IPOB remnants in a full Biafran country will head the government and never tolerate opposition from any quarter. Such a leaning autocratic government in a sovereign nation should be discouraged and stemmed from its root before it blossoms.

This is the most laughable comment I have read this week

Firespitter:
Are you Ikwerre? You better run to Oba Palace now before it will be too late. Go and relearn your Bini language and culture.


How can you tag impersonation and confusion irrelevant?

If a criminal is walking around with police ID card and uniform, you don't know how dangerous it is to the society?

I thought you are reasonable.

But if they don't, what are you going to do?



We place too much emphasis on irrelevant issues in this country.

Firespitter:
Exactly.

Me I don't care where everyone is coming from.

My own is that those Ikwerre people should hire a bus, head down to bini and relearn Bini language and culture. Time is running out for them.

What's the meaning of Yari.ba?

Dedetwo:
Why are you a Yari.ba?

None of the statements in this post relate to my post or even the topic being discussed.


My question is 'what are the benefits or disadvantages of one tribe claiming a group of people like the Ikwerres'

If they say they are Igbos ,what gain will that be or if they say they aren't Igbos, what are the disadvantages?

Dedetwo:
Awori people owned Eko until Yari.ba arrived. In the long run, I bet you Ndigbo will not suffer the consequences of idiocy displayed in southern Nigeria by certain airheads. I never thought that northern and southwestern Nigerian elites will make the Efik peeps in Bakassi cheaply expendable. Bakassi, as much as Nigeria\Biafra war, defines Nigeria for me.

Afizeres, Anabuta, Angas and Berom are small related tribes in Plateau State and they don't claim each other.

Isoko and Urbobos are indistinguishable in my own views but they always claim to be different tribes.

Efik, Ibibio and Annag look the same to me but one of my former employees from Akwa-Ibom said they are related but there is no universal name that combine them so every tribe decide to be on it's own.

What are the advantages or disadvantages of these?

LadyExcellency:
Forget it, most of those mushroom groups are subsets of the major ethnic groups.

I was listening to Delta State News broadcast in local languages but to my surprise, five or six of those languages are plain dialetes of their parent Igbo Language.

Imagine your language and culture being absent from languages acceptable to tech-world. No translator, no recognition and no propagation. It's gone.

When I was growing up in Lagos, we used to call anybody after Bini 'Omo Igbo' until I got to university and did NYSC that I started seeing these people telling me they aren't Igbos. One of them was my friend and classmate named P**l Omachi.

One day, i made a remark about him as an Igbo guy and I was surprised when he said he is from Benue and not an Igboman as we all assume.


In the North, they regard any southerner that's not Yoruba as Igbo , including Dr Goodluck Jonathan.

Firespitter:
I thought I was the only one that watched the video.

One of our yoruba coordinator during my NYSC days was shocked when one ikwerre girl boldly told him she isn't Igbo. The man no ask am where she come from oh. She was called to do a presentation, the next thing was " like me now I am ikwerre not Igbo" since that day I come to believe truly that the idea runs deep into them. I pity Igbo people that regard ikwerre as Igbo.

Excuse me sir,

What exactly is the benefy of claiming a tribe?

For instance what are the merits and demerits of Ikwerres accepting to be Igbo or be different ethnic group?

I know so many ethnic groups in Nigeria (some are even less than 30,000 people) and they are existing without this kind of claim and/denials.

Bkayyy:
That was how they worked on ohaneze ndi nzuzu around 2011 or 12 that they (ikwerre) and delta igbo are being left behind in igbo affairs that it is unbrotherly, that they are leaving them at the mercy of ijaw and urhobo and sentiment got to those old ignoramuses that they promised delta igbo Delta state governorship and undiluted support for riverine igbos.
As far as am concerned the few delta igbo towns that are acceptable in igbo land is akwukwu igbo and ogwashi ukwu, the rest are half and half

Who are the people that marry Ikwerre women or they have no women?

LadyExcellency:
This is utter rubbish. You can't hate a people while your men still preoccupy themselves by marrying majorly from their women.

Majority of Ikwerre mothers are from core Igbo speaking States - Fact

Tinubu is the most talked about topic on Nairaland.

Less than 2% of Non-Igbo Nigerians know that there's anything called Ikwerre.

If you doubt, just ask any random person on the Streets of Sokoto, Gboko, Ilorin, Biu, Ijebu-Ode, Auchi, or Ado-Ekiti if he/she believes Ikwerres are Igbos. The first response you will get is 'What is Ikwerres?'

24SEVEN:
I swear down, Ikwerre is the most talked about Topic on Nairaland. After Ikwerre is Tinubu.


Well, Ikwerre speak almost same language as Igbo. But Ikwerre isn't Igbo because Ikwerres want a separate identity, and they got it in 1970.

Let me tell you the naked truth, most Nigerian women have some of these attributes but some don't exhibit them yet because conditions are still favourable.


You can silence these attributes in them with prayer, love, care and above all MONEY.

Even a bad girl can act like a good girl (for some time) if conditions are favourable to her and may even turn from bad girl to good girl if the favourable conditions persist for long.

Almost all women need and respond well to Love (with good sex), care, gifts and money.

gaius01:
a feminist lover spotted.
what the OP said is very correct
unless you serve and worship women then you will be single.

So many kids on Nairaland.

Elections are NOT won either by bravery or cowardice but by political structures.

You need to be sponsored by strong political structures of a party that enjoy popularity among the electorates. If you can't inspire love and confidence of the party, it will be difficult to get their ticket.


The alternative is for Ambode or any other politician to test his/her popularity on another platform e.g PDP, Labour Party, APGA etc.

However, these other alternative parties don't have strong political structures in Lagos politics and have reduced chances of winning.

Great ideas!


However, which year exactly is being proposed for Independence of Biafra?

selemempe:
port Harcourt is igboid too so no issues there.
This is the map of Biafra confederation. Each region will be almost independent. Only few areas will be handled at the federal level

The problems with most people on Nairaland is that they don't read widely and most have limited education which makes it very difficult to have intellectual discussions like we do on Reddit or Quora on this forum.

This is worsen by the fact that most of these people like to force their opinions on everybody and wish everyone just accept such opinions unquestioned.


Why are you shifting the goal posts?

I have just told you that people have rights to bear, change or even adopt any name they like. I even cited examples from the US and from this country but you are now talking about moving to Kano and such funny stuff that are unrelated to the subject matter.

Your assertions that Buhari and Atiku made these names great and popular are borne out of ignorance about the origins of these names.

It's just like saying Peter Okoye of P-Square made the name 'Peter' great and popular.

The President was named Muhammad (corrupted to Muhammadu in local Parlance) and he adopted the name Buhari from Muhammad Al-Bukhari, the 7th century Persian Islamic Theologian/Scholar who was a native of the city of Bokhara, now in Uzbekistan. He compiled the most authentic Hadiths called 'Sahih Bukhar' which is highly reverred next to the Glorious Quran among Muslims.


Bukhari or the corrupted local version Buhari/Buari simply means 'a native of the city of Bokhara'


The former Vice President was named Abubakar after Sultan Abubakar Atiku (the 3rd Sultan of Sokoto Caliphate) who himself was named after Abu Bakr As-Siddiq Ateekulah, the first Khalifa Russullah, companion and Father-in-law of Prophet Muhammad.

In the core North, a male child named Abubakar may also adopt the appellation, Sodiq or Atiku (the corrupted local version of Ateekulah among the Fulanis).

Gov Abubakar Atiku Bagudu of Kebbi State is one of such people who adopted the name 'Atiku'.

A child named Ibrahim or Usman may adopt the appellation 'Sheu' if they are named after Sheu (sheiks) Ibrahim Niyas of Senegal or Usman Dan Fodio of Sokoto Caliphate e.g Ex -Gov Ibrahim Sheu Shema of Katsina State and Ex President Usman Sheu Shagari.

nku5:
Abeg Abeg Abeg Atiku and Buhari did not move to Kano and change name to Dantata. Atiku and Buhari made those names great and popular

This is not what's called innovation.

Osun State Government under Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola once invested in this Sewage generated cooking gas and the O-Clean Gas policy in 2012-2014 and it failed in the long run.

Government aren't good manager of business.

The man should look for smart investors to invest in his business , it's the surest way to commercialize this lofty project.

phantom24:
Our clueless govt. Will never encourage or support this kind of innovations so they can continue to loot from nnpc

Good luck in your deportation busines

SLAP44:
Because we can deport him Niger.

Professor of Tinubu's Affairs,

I hope you know that anyone has a right to bear whatever names that he/she fancy?

Bill Clinton, the former President of the US was born as Williams Jefferson Blythe-111 but later adopted the name Bill Clinton.


I hope you also know that the names 'Buhari' and 'Atiku' were both adopted and not the names of their fathers?

nku5:
Tinubu is not even his real name

And how exactly is that your problems sir?

SLAP44:
No, if you deny him being from Iragbiji, that throws the doors open for wilder speculations, , he can be from Niger republic or worse still, from Abia state which you love to hate

What of Oguta and Onitsha?

warripekin:
I hate it when adult lie for silly reasons. Theirs no relationship between ikwerre and Bini. No history or anthropological pointer to show ikwerre is from Bini. A day will come, when this lies will stop.

Where is your sense of humanity?

How is this your post about Palestinians Vs Jews related to the killings in Southerns?

Did these young ladies brutally killed knew anything called Palestinians or Jews?

ODB2:
I don't want to see any Biastard comment against the Fulani menace here when they blindly support their Jewish masters killing innocent Palestinian Christians and Muslims in their land grabbing and genocidal agenda.

If you love the Jew then you must love the Fulani as well.

Evil is evil any where it rears its head.

Buhari is simply copying from his Jewish cousins

Big hips are part of the requisites qualifications being demanded by party chairmen before appointing women as 'Women leaders' of these parties.

majamajic:
Women leaders all get big hips
Why ?

Tinubu might have been born in Mars or Jupiter that is his business.

The only thing we know is that he is a humanbeing and a Nigerian.

SLAP44:
He made the assertions and if you can prove him wrong, come with your facts

If you say Tinubu is not from Iragbiji, where is he from, because he wasn't born at Bourdillion.

If you say he was there to bury his mother, where are the pictures apart from your beer palour denials without substance.

Is professorship a Nigerian creation?


Are Professors without Ph.Ds in US, Australia, Canada, Germany or UK inferior to Nigerian Professors?

rhemauni:
Lol

Kids talking what they don't know

Let me educate you all

PhD is the beginning of academic career while Prof is the pinancle of academic career.

In Nigeria of today by NUC standard u must have a PhD for over 10 years ( usually 12 yrs) before you can be assessed for professorship. Of course u gather relevant teaching and research experience within that period with over 50 academic publications in high impact factor Journals. Scopus, Thompson Reuters, WOS etc, with good citation index as will be seen in Google scholar, research gate, scopus, Wos etc

Academic career progression in Nigeria

Professor
Associate professor
Senior lecturer
Lecturer 1
Lecturer 2
Assistant Lecturer

PhD will only qualify u for as automatic lecturer 2, to move from one cadre to another u will spend a minimum of 3 yrs on teaching, research and community service.

U won't find a Nigerian professor in the last 15 yrs without PhD. U can't even become a senior lecturer without PhD. Without PhD ur academic career will end in lecturer 1 n u won't teach PG students.

You don't necessarily need to have Ph.D to become a Professor.

Professorship is a ranking attained while teaching and conducting researches in the Universities.

There are some Professors who have carried out many researches in their various fields without having Ph.Ds.

poiunt:
A Phd is required for you to be a professor.

receiving a Ph.D. doesn not mean that one is automatically a professor, Ph.D. certifies that you are a bona fide qualified researcher in your field.

One can only become a professor by having a position at a college or university that is After receiving the Ph.d

PhD is title through research, Professors are titles that are awarded by universities.

Is Mr Chuks Akunna, the former Chief Press Secretary to Dr Chris Ngige who brought out this issue of car an Afonja or how exactly did Afonja comes into this matter sir?

ogbuefi677:
Afonjaz are easily conned,just like Borrowhari conned them into thinking he was bringing change
To think that a serving governor of a rich state like Anambra,a former director in d federal civil service with a successful medical practice needs to solicit for a car is ludicrous.
I mean,Ebonyi or Ekiti receives d lowest allocation but any governor from those states can afford whatever car he/she wants

Pastor Adebayo is from Ife-wara in Osun State and Bishop David Oyedepo is from Omu-Aran, Kwara State.

jidxin:
Adeboye is from ijebu and oyedepo is from Kwara st

Instead of you to face your State and start holding your leaders accountable, you are carrying Tinubu's matter on your head like Brazilian hair.



Tinubu (Full name= Osun-tinu-Ibu-wa) is a old popular Yoruba name with many people from Kogi, Kwara, Osun,Oyo, Ogun and Lagos bearing it as surnames.( Type Tinubu on Facebook, you will see so many Tinubus).

It's just as funny as saying Okafor is an Anambra Surname.

nku5:
no wonder the man no wan make Lagos breathe small. Even changed his surname to Tinubu (Lagos indigene name)

That guy, MelesZenawi specializes in peddling falsehoods especially in ways that can stroke Yoruba-Igbo e-wars.

delpee:
Oyedepo is from Omu Aran in Kwara state. He has invested heavily in the town. Landmark University is there in addition to huge investments in agriculture among many other things.

The thread is NOT harmless at all but borne out of tribal bigotry and foolishness.


So you honestly believe that there is only one upstairs in Iragbiji ,the Headquarters of Boripe LGA?

Where is his evidence that Tinubu was born and grew up in Iragbiji apart from beer parlour gossip?

Did he give any credible evidence that Tinubu didn't bury his mum?



By the way what is his own with Tinubu? Even if Tinubu was born truly in Iragbiji, there are millions of people who don't go to their hometowns and why hasn't he opened a thread for each and every one of them to call them out?

*He who asserts must prove!

SLAP44:
And this one goes tribal. That's so unfortunate. In a harmless thread like this where the OP just wants the asiwaju to look at his roots you are trying to mix tribal issues with your response.

So unfortunate.