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So any divisive post from a known opposition figure must be believed, accepted and propagated without questioning?



You are a worse tribal bigot than Buhari.


It is most unfortunate that a supposedly educated Laboratory scientist thinks like this.

LabDNA:
Ewedu muslim as usual trying to paint white as black because they want 2023 presidency..

Okay sir.






This is the thread that I am following now.

Can you solve this problem?

Ambcharles:
The internet has not moved on. Omojuwa will be held accountable and what sowore is passing through will be small.

Okay, we have heard that Jubrin from Sudan is now ruling in Aso Rock.

I have since moved on from this sir.






How is the forced stay at home in your area?

Ambcharles:
Your strategy is to call a president pig.

Many people don't understand how Oil refineries work.

# The oldest functional refinery in the World is in India which does NOT produce crude oil.

#There are many Countries (e.g Switzerland) that don't have crude oil but have oil refineries.

In reality, these refineries can be compared to Mills where different farmers/traders take their grains to for the grains (e.g wheat, rice, maize) to be granded into fine flours while they pay the owners of the Mills.


The Port Harcourt Refinery which was built by Shell in 1965 operated on this model before the FG completely took over the refinery.

When the Port Harcourt Refinery was been managed by Shell, they concentrated their energy, resources and time on the refinery operations.

Different oil companies (e.g British Petroleum now known as ConOil) bought crude oil in varying qualities which were then pumped to the refinery to refine into Petrol, Kerosene, Diesel oil, Engine oil, Aviation fuel and a host of other products.

These down stream petroleum companies through a network of depots and dealers distributed the refined products throughout Nigeria.
There was nothing like fuel scarcity or centralized trade unions like NUPENG during this period.

These oil companies could share the profits from the sales of the products with the Refinery or they could pay upfront if they had enough money.


The Federal Military Government took over the Refinery and lumped several sectors of the oil Business under one centralized Company called NNPC which was managed as a Government Monopoly.

This is the genesis of the problems in the Nigerian Oil industry.

tiredoflife:
He built his refinery away from niger delta oil
U really typed this or u were having a mental crisis
So if the oil is from niger delta
U have a tool to test it to know
I pity the fufu u call a brain

There was demand for it already but the number of patients respiratory failures are not as much as during the COVID-19 pandemic.

It's just like asking if there was demand for facemasks in Nigieria before the COVID-19 pandemic.

Face masks, gloves and ventilators are regular hospital equipments in use long before the advent of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Ordinarily, every Tertiary Hospital in Nigeria should have 2-3 ventilators. Before the pandemic, an average ventilator was about #3 million.

CSTR2:
Why wasnt there demand before the pandemic?

Don't forget China is still there. Once pandemic goes, they would start producing for export once again.

If you don't have your market sealed tight by way of contractual agreement, you are done for.

Because there is an unexpected surge in the numbers of people needing the ventilators beyond what is presently available in the US.



However in Nigeria, there is none being produced locally, why not seize the opportunity to become the sole manufacturer of ventilators in Nigeria,which can also be exported to other African Countries?

Precious4real50:
Even president Trump was begging USA companies to built ventilators but Nigeria government want inno to build without assurance.






I still remain Ada ogwashi

One of the first things smart industrialists/producers/investors do before production is to first identify the condummers (markets) of their products .





It's Innoson's responsibility to first identify the market.


Are ventilators only used to manage COVID-19 patients?
The answer is NO.

Will their be demand for ventilators after the pandemic?
The answer is YES

Whiteangel1234:
I'm not sure you are a business man nothing like charity in business unless you set up a foundation


No business man will venture into a new biz without defining His market accurately , so no 4 Billion for Innoson no Ventilators its a simple rule . let the Nigeria Govt continue begging USA nah

Just type Innoson on Nairaland, Facebook or see what young Igbos write about him on Twitter.




Innoson motor vehicles had a court issues with GTB about a year ago, IPOB and other Igbo gtoups immediately jumped into the matter and asked their people to start closing their accounts with GTB.

If you see anything about Innoson online, the following statements are likely to follow it;


1) Igbo Amaka
2) Igbos are the Japan of Africa.
3) If only they have allowed us to go, we will be exporting Innoson.

4) Igbos excel despite the 20 Pounds policy.
5) The more you frustrate Igbos, the more they become stronger.

6) If Government can support Innoson the way they are supporting Dangote....

emmysoftyou:
your people gave the impression
now we're living by the passion.

Stop all these unnecessary victim mentality.



Orji Uzor Kalu's corruption case started shortly after he left office in 2007. He was off and on attending court cases.





He is not a strong politician in either PDP or APC and definitely not a strong contender for 2023. There is no private citizen southern or Northern politician that can jail anybody.
What you wrote is just the figment of your imagination.

kingi777:
The imprisonment of Sen Orji Uzor Kalu (OUK) is purely political ochestrated by a Southern politician because of 2023. Any thing that stands in the way is bulldozed down. Check the role OUK played during the election of principal officers of the National Assembly. He was outspoken & vociferous in making sure the South East did not loose out in both chambers. Sen OUK is in prison today because he is being seen as one of the obstacles for the realization of the 2023 ambition of the said man. Sen OUK's corruption case is used as a cover up; 2023 is the main reason for imprisoning him.

Have you seen the Aba made facemasks to arrive at this unpatriotic conclusion?





Besides, there are different types of facemasks.

gnykelly:
What ABA is producing is not face mask...it only looks like it. It has it own material and specifications

You have a good understanding of Basic Economics.




Thumbs up sir.

mekaboy:
Sure. Why dont we cut the middle man completely and have the whites colonize us. After all we order everything from there. That way they can bring their factories here.

Even the traditional materials we wear are imported and tailors assemble them here, why dont we just import all the clothes.

Why are we wasting time assembling face masks, when the materials are made in china? We can just order from china.

The machines we use in processing rice and other foods are made in china, we can as well import rice direct.



China buys oil from us and converts to fuel and use for other stuff. Why dont they just other fuel from from us, since the assemble our oil?

If 10% of the things we use in Nigeria are assembled here, unemployment would have reduced by 90%.

Let me educate you on one advantage of assembling . A container might take only 5 cars, but if the parts are shipped 20 or more cars can be assembled from one container. Saving time and cost of shipping.

I guess our hospitals also assemble drugs etc here, no wonder buhari will cut the middle men to go and get healthcare direct from UK. This thing called common sense is not common.

Hyperchi:
My guy forget that tin, we are been persecute that the real truth, list how many cement company we had 10yrs ago and how many we have active now and what happened to them?

Bros, nobody is persecuting you.

The ways you guys attack other Nigerians over Innoson which you erroneously assume is to protect Innoson will actually hurt his business growth.


There are many cement factories in Nigeria e.g West African Lafarge (Elephant cement), Dangote, BUA, Ibeto Cement etc.


Mergers and acquisition of businesses occurs in different sectors of the economy (construction, banking, Aviation etc)

Apart from this ventilators issue, Government can partner with industrialists like Innoson, Dangote, BUA etc.


Innoson seems to model his business largely on Government patronage. He should start targeting the larger populace.

Malawian:
Do you guys know that you can't go to any type of market whatsoever and purchase a Steam turbine? You will have to place order for it and it will be manufactured for you.

All innoson is saying is that the FG should place an order for ventilators and mobilize him to produce them.

That is his business model.

When you point one finger at someone,the remaining four will point to you.

GamalNasser:
The tone of his response says it all , bleeping bigot

Dangote transited from importation of cement to manufacturing of cement in 2003 with his acquisition of Benue Cement Company.

Around 2007, the newly built Obajana cement company merged with BCC to form Dangote Cement Company.

The company diversified into Oil refinery (which is still under construction) much more later.




#Personslly, i don't know why many young Igbos online become emotional when discussing about Innoson especially with the ways they always portray him as a persecuted business man and the unnecessary ways they compare him with Dangote.

BigIyanga:
Liar.. Dangote was importing and rebagging cement before it ventured into refining with full govt backing. Their core competence was in cement, import and logistics

The guy said the naked truth sir.

BennyDGreat:
Mehn Bashir this tweet was a mistake. It shouldn't have happened. Gosh....a government spokesman....very disappointing

I hope you know that there are several brands of vehicles that are assembled in Nigeria?

kalufelix:
ventilator no be refrigerator or AC units...it comes with a demand order..coupled with the fact its going to produced on a make shift basis.. IVM is made in Nnewi..children of hate lack basic economic education on firms and industries...If they cannot "assemble" their own make them get sense naa...haba!!

You don't understand the situation.




1) Ventilators are medical machines to help a patient to continue to breath even when there is serious compromise in the respiratory system of the patient.

2) The use of ventilators is NOT limited to COVID-19.

3) Increased demand for ventilators at this period is due to the pandemic.

4) Innoson can use this opportunity to start a permanent local production of ventilators in Nigeria which will continue to meet the demand of Nigeria even after the COVID-19 pandemic is over.

5) Innoson can export to our neighboring countries too and even be the sole supplier of ventilators in West Africa.

6) If he is serious about it, he should get loans from banks/investors.

The FG can even give him credit facilities through the Bank of Industry, import waivers (already in place for medical equipments) etc


7) The Buhari administration (through NPF, Immigration, Nigerian Customs, Army, FRSC, Federal Universities etc) is biggest buyer of Innoson vehicles

PHIPEX:
No serious businessman makes such huge investment for a demand that could be over in less than 4 months except the company wants to go into such production for a long term which is not the case we are having. You dont build refinery because NUPENG is on strike and fuel is scarce, that's what you are asking Innoson to do.

The demand for ventilators has a very short span and very unpredictable, only a guaranteed order can make any serious company make such a huge investment in it. That also explains why it's still scarce otherwise every Tom Dick and harry will divert to it in other countries.

GM can now produce because Trump has given an order. Why haven't Toyota and Honda started? It's simply because they haven't gotten a concrete order and Japan is not in dire need of it like Nigerian.

Excuse me sir

Why are you people fixated on the assumption that only Government must buy Innoson products?

There are many hospitals in Nigeria and outside the country that will buy these ventilators without relying on Government.

PHIPEX:
Dangote didn't just start, he got govt backing which is very good. Do you know how many times CBN and other senior officials visited his site? This is how a country should run. You don't expect Innoson to run to a bank and take 4billion loan just on HOPE that govt will buy, who does that?

You need to get License by the Department of Petroleum Products (DPR) to start the construction of Oil refineries.


Dangote, Orient Petroleum and twenty other companies got the license to build refineries.

On the other hand,you don't need any license to manufacture Ventilators.

PHIPEX:
Did FG ask Dangote to refine some litres of fuel first before he got govt backing to build refinery? Govt should always support critical sectors, that's how countries grow not by begging.

altruisticlomo:
finally its getting closer day by day lagos will be deserted for good

Deserted for where? Where will the millions of the people living in Lagos go to?

Then they should buy from Aba, Nigeria at cheaper prices.

gnykelly:
Both USA and France are producing face mask in their countries but it can't satisfy local demands

Jumlek2411:
It's disgusting to learnt countries like US and France are having issue on Nose mask, can they be producing that themselves? With their status in d world.
Thank God Nigeria is now producing it now in Aba.
China will continue to ride d world.

Thank you my brother.



This France is behaving like small kids throwing tantrums because of mere face masks.



Why not order one metric ton of Facemasks from Aba, Nigeria?

The smaller one is an equilateral triangle but the bigger and inverted one big an Isoceles Triangle.

stanisbaratheon:
The major triangle and the smaller one up top.

Ans= 30°

The guy wrote that Innoson requested Four Billion Naira to mobilize materials for the manufacture of ventilators.




If there is someone granting such requests, then I too want to request #5 billion to start producing medicines that can cure COVID-19.

0m0nnakoda:
You are guilty of assuming you are talking to a literate person

This is more true if the woman is working class and has already married before but now divorced or separated.

These kind of women are more matured and less canterkerous but the Nigerian societies have biased mind against them, making it difficult for young men to want to marry them.

DaudaTheSexyGuy:
There's noting as sweet and enjoyable as toto that has matured with age

Anytime you want to bang she will give you freely, not like these small girls that will first do wrestling match with you before they take off their undies

She won't be pestering your life to send her #200 airtime credit with which to call you

She won't be snooping around your phone to find out who called you or who you called

She will be willing to give you good advise when you need it not like these young slay mamas that will not have 5K in their bank account but will be looking for a guy who will buy them the latest iPhone

She can take the initiative to use her money to cook food unlike youngies who will be calling you to transfer money to buy ordinary salt for cooking

Many people are dieing in Spain, Italy, UK and USA.

There are many Countries that will buy the Innoson ventilators, he doesn't need the Federal Government to direct me to start producing a scarced commodity that's in hot demand all over the world.

Wilstino:
Bashir was wrong on this.

The guy's plant is for cars, I believe to make the ventilators some modification needs to be made and of course with cost implication.


The guy has to be sure of market/demand before going into it. The automakers in the US (GM, Ford et al), were asked by Govt to make the ventilators.

Requested four Billion from whom exactly?



Please send me the address of the person we can direct our request to.

My company needs #5Billion to produce medicines that can cure COVID-19.

NwaNimo1:
Innoson needs the 4billion he requested to mobilize.

UniJos Teaching Hospital have successfully repaired damaged ventilators.

iammo:
its funny how its kano with the most out of school student that have the most ventilators in Nigeria, and now the ones trying to get a ventilator done

Any verifiable reference for this statement?




kinds of shoes? Sleepers, half shoes, trekkers, canvass



Where do they get their leather?

slimfit1:
Yet they produce more shoes