₦airaland Forum

PandoraObi:
Igbos should go and rest, they can never be president after buhari, buhari will rather die than allow Igbo to rule after him.

But why?


There are well educated and experienced Igbo men who can truly help Nigeria to develop.

JackDaAlienz:
Why is that North Politicians DON'T send their Daughters to school in Saudi Arabia,Dubai why??

They always send their Daughters to U.K which is a Christian Western Country.
Yet they are busy sponsoring Hisbah Shaira in their own state.

Look at migrants from Syria, Afghanistan, Libya they are all risking their lives to go Mecca??
Nooo
To Dubai??
Noooo
To Turkey
Nooo

All are heading to White European Christian Countries like Poland,Canada, Sweden, Germany

So what happened to the top Islamic countries like U.A.E, Qatar, Dubai, Turkey
Why are Muslims migrants not going there?

Human minds generally can't be tamed for long, humans love freedom!

Islamic societies try to restrict their freedom to express certain feelings, ideas and fantasies.

AsampeteNwaanyi:
dem use am do ritual just like her brother

Elrufai used his children for ritual

This is insensitive ma.


The lady was a SS patient who died of cerebral heamorrhage after suffering a massive stroke in London.

She was NOT killed for any ritual.

Zetra7:
I understand your point but at this stage APC has no option but to present a southerner. Take that to the bank..

What if the election is like this;


Abubakar Malami (APC) or Mai Mala Bunu (APC) Vs Atiku (PDP)

[quote author=Zetra7 post=108057056][/quote]But why do you honestly think the S/East aren't considered for the presidency by the cabal and the political parties?

Zetra7:
To understand the inner dealings of political parties, you ought to either be a part of the inner caucus or have a solid contact with one that belongs to such a caucus, I happen to fall in the latter group by default.

Today , we dissect the plan of these 3 great men who holds all ace in APC. Sometime in the past, I proclaimed the tales of these 3 great men but many did not understand until they finally unveiled themselves with the powerful meeting with Buhari and solid statement of postponing APC convention to Feb , a sound strategic move despite cries within some quarters to relieve Mai Buni of the leadership.


Let me be clear, that move was against the Tinubu camp.. The line is drawn and it will be the winner that takes it all. If Tinubu wins , the BBB knows how the Tinubu camp deals with enemies so it's a fight to finish.

Note that only 2 camps will fight for the primary ticket forget Yahya Bello, one will be the Tinubu camp while the other is the Osibanjo camp.

The BBB + the presidency is routing for Osinbanjo based on the following points.

1. A loyal VP and a professional with less corruption baggage and easy to control. Remember as a General , Buhari like OBJ will not handover to a perceived strong man. OBJ went for cool Yaradua , Buhari - Osibanjo.

2. Southern Christian which will go along with a powerful muslim VP

3. Detribalized and more likely to gain favour from opposition regions of SS, SE and Some NC. Also will be more favoured by ex president and ex generals like OBJ , GEJ , Abusalami , Babagida , Gowan and Ty Danjuma.

4. Gain more traction with the Christian communities from CAN to strong Pentecostal leaders all over the country.

5. Support of the professionals and young people who will see him as a fresh air after the illiterate regime of Buhari and the corruption/agbero politics that reigned through them

6. Finally , support of the international community. US and Europe will never recognise Nigeria as a muslim state no matter how anybody try. Putting Nigeria on that list of anti religious book makes a statement. Now it's removed, there is only one option and that's for a Christian president.


Now back to the point, what is the plan of the BBB team, it's simple. These men are like a frying pan with oil, under them is the real fire which is the presidency which include the likes of Amaechi , Ngige , Abubabar Salami , Mamman Daura and so on.


Despite the plea of Kano, Kastina , Borno to be soft on Tinubu, the plot have thickened so much that by the time it gets to the primary, Tinubu might not contest. First the BBB team will seize the party by February placing solely their own men in charge of the party and by the primary will present Osibanjo as the candidate.


Now get this, Atiku Bagudu is the likely VP to Osibanjo. Buni and Baduare will be heading powerful positions in the cabinet if all goes as planned.


The Tinubu team will desperately hate Osinbanjo when the time comes but this has nothing to do with Osinbanjo , it's simply the plot of the BBB + the presidency....

In all these, two factors are never mentioned or considered;

1) The God factor

2) The Nigerian massess

Mrkumareze:
Sure, he's not an ordinary kidnapper ... must be a political tools

If you have alot of money in Nigeria, you will no longer be ordinary.

You will have access to the high and mighty in the land.








Nigeria is a fantastically corrupt country, most of the (young) people complaining about Nigeria online are equally corrupt.

DOTian:
Akinwumi? That one is too far. Lots of decent characters they can front if the yorubas have any serious interest in fixing Nigeria. The Akinwumi guy proved his mettle at The Ministry of Agriculture under Obasanjo. Reasonably decent and marketable. But they won't bring him in. The same reason they won't bring in the current Vice President Osibanjo. Warts and all, many Nigerians still have reasonable respect for Osibanjo, especially due to the way he has acted whenever Buhari was away. Very erudite, though beholden to clannish pulls sometimes. If the yorubas want to make an easy case for the presidency, Osibanjo should have been the character...

But they don't want that! They never mention those names anymore. You have to pity the man Osibanjo.. Even ministers from the South West like the loudmouthed Fashola and their owambe governors are already talking about the "Al Capone" abi the Pablo Escobar of Nigerias politics- Tinubu while Osibanjo is there like an orphan! The reason is very simple; they are not interested in building this fake country! Their much vaunted patriotism is fake too. They're only interested in looting down the country and can NEVER trust reasonably "erudite intellectuals" like akinwumi or Osibanjo to do the job as ruthlessly clinical as Buhari! They want a proven thief to loot for them! It's a "loot I loot" democracy, remember?

Hmm, you are right but if the youths are serious, they can win the election by nominating and supporting someone like DOTian for the presidential election

Investigative:
Why can’t Yoruba pick the president Africa development bank as the presidential candidate ?
Why do Nigeria always go after corrupt people who steal from them at same time share with them every four years
Then go back and start complaining,
I will personally vote that man against igbo politicians unless Peter obi

Because tribes can NOT nominate and present candidates for elections.


Q-1: Suppose the Yorubas want to do this, who will announce that Akin Adeshina has been chosen as the Yoruba candidate?

(a) Alaafin of Oyo
(b) Pastor Adeboye
(c) Chairman of Afenifere
(d) Ooni of Ife
(e) Sunday Igboho

Q-2:How will the answer in Q-1above ensure that other Yorubas step down?

Noshitboi:
Where is that vulture and lizard griller sef. Seem he has not been paid his BMC monthly stipend.

God punish all APC supporters and make God extra punish anybody wishing Tinubu to be our next president

Asgard73 and PrinceOfLagos, your brother is here o

eduj:
That's a fallacy, the Ohanaeze Ndigbo has no charter on the tribal composition of the Igbo race -unlike the ijaw organization that without consultations ,subscribed tribal groups into there charter.

The people of Asaba called there king the Asagba of Asaba. They don't use Eze. You see, Eze is a generic term and some other Igbo communities use other terms to denote there kings.

You are answering questions that I NEVER asked but didn't answer the question I asked;


1) Are Opobo and Bonny peoples parts of Igbo ethno-cultural organizations like Ohaneze Ndigbo and/or Ake Ikenga?

2) Do Igbo towns use the title Amanayabo for kings?

3) If you are asked in an exam or interview to name which Nigerian tribe use the title of Amanayabo for thier kings ,what will you say?

(a) Ijaw
(b) Igbo


4) Do Opobo and Bonny also called their kings Eze in addition to the titles of Amanayabo?

Do they say Igwe or Eze gborugburu in Opobo or Bonny?




Igbo and Igbonized royalties use eze in addition to peculiar titles like Obi or Asagba.

OfoIgbo:
You are the person to provide these bibliographies, after all you have access to these modern books by Alagoa and the rest.

We also look forward to any pre-colonial documents from the Portuguese, Spanish or any neutral European operators in Ubani, that you may be basing your assertions on.

In this forum, I was able to show translated snippets from Portuguese explorers, written about 550 years ago, to prove that the NRI kingdom was the cultural and religious overlord of Benin empire.

All you need to do, is to provide a few pre colonial documents to back your assertions

Where did you read that Nro Kingdom was the cultural and spiritual overlord of Bini Empire?

Putindbutt:
Bonny is a mix tribe. The culture and titles are ijohs. Slave trade brought ibos from the interior to Bonny. Mbanaso was installed as a king by his ijoh master. Olukumi have been igbonized even though they aren't ibos. The large concentration of ibos in a given area gives them undue advantage over the less peopled minorities.
The fact remains that the abolishment of slave trade in 1801 gave ibos the leeway as freed slaves in Bonny, prior to 1801, ibos were the largest supplier of slaves. It was for purpose of slavery that brought ibos to Bonny.

More than others, this post summarize the most neutral picture of Bonny.

Pass11:
Anybody can belong to ijaw national council as long as 100 hungry people from the place come together, that is according to your ijaw constitution, infact we will soon register nairaland as part of ijaw we are 80 people now just waiting for more 20 people to sign up

So why are they not part of Ohaneze Ndigbo or Aka Ikenga? Why are they not using Eze of Bonny or Eze of Opobo?

Danjikanbauchi:
stop exposing your ignorant in public forum. Check when she mentioned Igbo boys in a robbery case in Dubai

I watched the videos several times, she mentioned the names of the offenders, she never mentioned 'Igbo'.

You people, more than any other tribe in Nigeria like to accuse almost all public officers from other tribes of being against you.


Whenever any present or past public officer (e.g Wike, Murtalar Muhammed,Abike Dabiri, Oba of Bini, Awolowo, Saro-Wiwa,Gowon, Tinubu, Adaka Boro, Ahmadu Bello, MKO Abiola, Akintola, Buhari, Wole Soyinka, Mahmud Jega etc) that is not from your tribe is being discussed you try to castigate, ridicule ,abuse or curse them.

Danjikanbauchi:
was it not this useless old Ashawo woman that instead of saying Nigerians were cought in Dubai for stealing she said Igbos. Stupid woman God punish her.

She never mentioned 'Igbo' but called out the offenders.


You people just like exhibiting unnecessary victimhood.

SportsHD:
Anything relating to Nigeria is always up side down. I heard her interview on voices last week Saturday also. She was just kapping nonsense. Talking about she could have done something if the matter has been reported earlier.

The matter has been reported to the Nigerian embassy since around 2019. She just didn't care.

Abike-Dabiri is neither the Ambassador to Ivory coast or the Minister of Foreign Affairs.

ReoCoker:
Are you done?

If you doubt me, just go to Mokola round-about in Ibadan or Tarki Square, Ogbomosho and ask 10 people you see on the street if they like or dislike Peter Obi.

About 8 out of the 10 people will answer like this ' who is Peter Obi'?


Most S/West youths don't even know him let alone harbour bitterness against him.


Mr Peter Obi hasn't ruled any part of the S/West before. He left office as Governor of Anambra State about 8 years ago,he had never been president, vice president, ministers or senator, so how does his politics affect the s/West?

Igboid:
They can't change without language change.
For example, the town called Igbide in Isokoland Delta State have a history of migrating from Mgbidi in Imo state and Awka in Anambra state.
But today they no longer speak Igbo as mother tongue and so can nolonger be called Igbo.
For this reason, you will never see Ndiigbo claim them.

If Bonny and Opobo were not speaking Igbo language as mother tongue, Ndiigbo will not be claiming them, even if they have history of migration from Igboland.

So nope! Ethnicity is not an artificial construct. Ethnicity is built on ancestral origin and woven together by shared dialects of a common language.
You can't be claiming to be a member of same ethnicity with a people you can't communicate with without using another foreign language.

That's deception.

The Ijaws know that language is important, that is why they are busy forcing Bonny and Opobo people to stop speaking their Indigenous Igbo language and instead start learning a fraudulent language from Kalabari that they call Ibani.

You can NOT claim human beings .



People proclaim and act who they want to be.




There are many people we know call Hausa whose great-grandparents weren't Hausas.


I know many Yoruba families, including many royal families whose ancestors came from Bini.

There are many people who now identify as Binis whose great-grandfathers were Yorubas.

Before 1900, identification by ethnic groups were very fluidy and in most cases unnecessary because most people identified with the villages, kingdoms or Empire they lived and prospered.

This is good for democracy.

We need as many people as possible to join the presidential race and the best should emerge.


mrvitalis, gidgiddy, penguin2, AsampeteNnwaayi, PrinceOfLagos and PaChukwudi44 should rally round this aspirant and project him to the Nigerian people instead of trying to bring down a particular candidate.

ReoCoker:
You are correct my dear... Especially some of the South West youths and their bitterness towards the South East politicians like Peter Obi.

The S/East don't have heavy duty politicians in the present dispensation and the most well known politicians from the S/East are Okorocha and Orji Uzor Kalu, both of whom don't attract any bitterness from the S/west youths.

Peter Obi is hardly known in the S/West (you can ask 10 random youths on the streets of Ibadan or Ile-Ife if they know Peter Obi) ,so how do you assume that S/West youths are embittered against him?
Most of them don't just know him.

onuman:
…..since it has been decreed that Igbo can’t be president of Nigeria?

If not, it’s the turn of the Igbo to succeed PMB.
Nigeria has chosen presidents through zoning since 1999. The political structure of Nigeria necessitated zoning.
Igbo not succeeding PMB is like decreeing conflict continuous in Nigeria.

Who made the decree and when was it made sir?


Sen Anyim Pius Anyim is contesting for the presidency and if he wins ,he will become the next president

Omoslim26:
You are too emotional to be logical
I dont do the tribal shit so you might just look for another playmate
what you have there is my opinion which is drawn from my little meetings with some
other tribes
oga ask an average hausa man
ijaw man
middle belt
if they will vote for sw.
e never reach sw turn.
I am not a campaigner for Igbo presidency but if it comes to a point where
its SE vs SW it will go to SE.

SW or SE are not in the constition or on the ballot.



Political parties contest for elections and this is why politicians decamp to parties that can win elections.

All these aren't necessary if we understand two important facts;

1) Ethnic Identities are self-indentities.














2) Ethnic Identities , though relatively stable are nevertheless dynamic and may change over a long period of time.

OEPHIUS:
Gov. Ugwuanyi unveils action plan towards tackling water supply challenge in Enugu


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=448913799926444&id=100044234839321

Penguin2, PaChukwudi44, AsempeteNnwaayi, mrvitalis, gidgiddy and PrinceOfLagos need to see how Tinubu had embezzled the money meant to provide water for Enugu State.

Vistra40:
Not when the governors are completely in charge

Who said the Governors are completely in charge?
Didn't you see the last Congress that produced parallel Excos in most APC controlled States?


The lack of a validly elected National Working Committee (NWC) for the APC is responsible for most of the crises in the party.

Xscape1993:
Anybody that is wishing Nigerians Tinubu as president deserves death sentence.

Cc: seun
Mynd44
Lalasticlala

Sufferingboy:
I never said orogun man abandon his culture or say he is not urhobo.

I said many of your people especially the young one prefer speaking ukwuani.

And what's bad in that?


In the next 100 years, the whole of Delta State would have become one tribe and most tribes in Nigeria would have coalesced into one mega tribe.

Asgard73:
He’s the first ... by next year .. only acn will remain in Apc

I told you guys .. since morning... and Na so yoruba go Dey abuse them one by one till only Tinubu is left with you and others..

Just like I told Nairaland about CALLING TINUBU APC NATIONAL LEADER UNA CALL ME IPOB ..
That alone cost Oshiomole his position and Edo state.. relegated Tinubu in Apc politcal structure.. yet you yoruba people were still making internet noise till Buhari visited Lagos .. and made the killer statement .

Nobody in the north want a Tinubu godfather..

All I want is Tinubu to contest.. so e go loud and and clear

Bros, how exactly does Yoruba come into this topic sir?


Ex-Gov Abulaziz Yaro is fighting the political battles with the incumbent Gov of Zamfara State and you are bringing Yorubas into it.

chumaster:
And you want the same Igbos to pledge their loyalty to you. It doesn't work that way sir

Igbos or any tribe don't need to pledge their loyalties to anybody.


Just cast your votes for any candidate that you like and let INEC declare the winner.

Mayng01:
And finally, another disaster loading

But the Ayim/PDP will likely defeat Tinubu.

Ruggman:
You will be highly disappointed, no sane human being will wish tinubu to govern Nigeria.
We cannot replace buhari with a worst president, anybody buhari is better than can never rule Nigeria again.
OLD THINGS HAVE PASSED AWAY, ALL THINGS MUST BECOME NEW

The youths are rooting for Sen Anyim Pius Anyim. Get involved