How is it cultism still exists in Nigeria's universities?

There have been a lot of interesting answers here, yet to my mind this was the one that made me think the most:

Dalu uzor:

hmmm, i really pity those who pity or abuse those dat speak against d pastors, na dem get deir mouth oo, God has d final judgemnt, i do not luk up to any pastor, i luk up to God, u cannot vouch or defend for somebody u do not knw anytin about, God knws d hrt of all men, so judge not for u may not b judged.

I thought this poster put the thing into perspective.
A pastor has no business permitting idolatry.
I've known some truly holy people and one thing they all had in common was to reject ANY honours or wealth.

But we live in different times now- with televised services and mega churches.
Swaying the masses has to be a powerful experience and then there's always the influence of the entourage.
I doubt I could withstand the temptations of those circumstances.
But I expect an MOG to do so.

FXKing2012:

But we never heard of any infighting, not until the MOG placed a curse on them and was bold enough to even make it public.

Was healing not instant in the Bible? Did u not see all the miracles in the Bible? And it was God who healed me using the man of God (pastor Chris) in the name of Jesus.

The fact is that you never heard of any infighting in BH.
Does that mean it didn't exist?

The fact is that radical groups tend to splinter over time.
You can see that over and over again when you start studying the matter.

This thread is about curses, not healing.

PA1982 (f)
Re: Pls Am Really Confused About This Bible Passage
« #76 on: Today at 04:03:01 PM »

Quote from: Bro Pee on Today at 12:54:09 AM
There are/maybe so many women better able to preach than men BUT God forbids it. No woman is permitted to stand and preach in God's church. However since people now have THEIR own churches, they can do whatsoever they wish and justify themselves before their beliefs but God will judge according to the truth and not error.

Every TRUE believer will punctuate every Word of God with Amen even if you dont understand it. Believe it, thats what you are called to do.

Re: Pls Am Really Confused About This Bible Passage
« #77 on: Today at 04:58:02 PM »

PA1982 on Today at 04:03:01 PM
That's an interesting point of view.
Paul=God.
Are you serious or are you trolling the thread?

Which is more interesting? Paul=God, or Believe what you don't understand?

Well, Pastor AIO, I thought I was clear.
Paul=God.

basadenet:

Your post has no solid base and can not be substantiate.

My post, you mean?

dekung:

@FXKing2012,
So you attend boko haram meetings to know that have not been having these in-fightings. People have been cursing long before your bishop cursed and are still cursing after he cursed. You said he laid hands on the sick and they recover, how come he had to fly his wife out of the country for medical treatment when she was ill. He could have laid hands on her. People heard about him running his mouth against Boko Haram. Several people are doing the same thing. Several pastors, like Oyedepo, cursed boko haram in the comfort of their churches so drop this hero worship attitude.

In any case, we've over this nonsense of cursing before here:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=852413.msg10097369#msg10097369

I can't believe anyone here isn't aware that groups like BH are simply liable to periodic infighting.
Get real.

I knew TB's name was being used by 419ers, as is Lamido Sanusi, the family of Gaddafi, the head of the FBI and Ban Ki Moon.

Bro Pee:

There are/maybe so many women better able to preach than men BUT God forbids it. No woman is permitted to stand and preach in God's church. However since people now have THEIR own churches, they can do whatsoever they wish and justify themselves before their beliefs but God will judge according to the truth and not error.

Every TRUE believer will punctuate every Word of God with Amen even if you dont understand it. Believe it, thats what you are called to do.

That's an interesting point of view.
Paul=God.
Are you serious or are you trolling the thread?

stagger:

The way you are going, I would be very surprised if you make it beyond 2012 without God striking you with the worst death possible.

Continue your blasphemous posts.

And I do hope you remember how Abdulkarim Adisa, who was demolishing churches with reckless abandon as Works Minister under Abacha ended. Died like a rat!

You know how rats die when they are smashed? Try to watch a rat die. Because that is how you will end up if you do not stop your campaign of calumny against God's anointed.

How amusing!
More curses!
Been there, done that, got the mousepad:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=852413.msg10097369#msg10097369

Get over this nonsense.

It's a good start, enforcing the law of the land.

doctokwus:

^^^Kai,see challenge

You mean, this challenge?
"This week if heavy calamity does not come to you and your family members. then God has not called Bishop David Oyedepo."

And nothing has happened, has it?
Where is usanieja now?

Still nothing but silence, usanieja?
Where is your bluster now?

okazuu:

Countless miracles happen in my church salvation ministries if u ve nt c it b4 u can 2 salvation ministries n c it,stop all dis mediocrity n change ur perspective because most of u ve wrong perspective start giving respect 2 anointed men of God, If u wnt 2 c miracle worship wit us 2day at salvation ministries ph or online @ www.salvationministrieshs.org

I concur with MRbrownJAY.
Charlatanas are very convincing and it is depressingly typical that they urge us to 'expand' our minds and so forth.

As for my take on 'anointed' MOGs, see this thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=852413.msg10078528#msg10078528

I and my family are very much alive and well, thank you.

I hope no one is taken in by this nonsense.
Fibroids need medical treatment, not a charlatan's promises.

^^^
May God have mercy on the souls of those filthy charlatans.

Judek2:

It should be,if women acts disorderly. . Education and civilization has indeed helped matters.

Let me fix that for you.
It should be, if women act disorderly. Education and civilization have indeed helped matters.

My point was to question any relevancy the writings of Paul could possibly have to us.

An interesting thread with many thoughtful comments, especially about the context of the verses.
My question would be- Why should Paul' s thinking on the subject have any bearing on life today?

usanieja, no days left for calamity to 'smite' my family.
What are you going to do now?

Think about your foolish idolatry is my advice.
Change your ways and live up to your faith.
And please stop cursing people who think differently than yourself.

I've shown you here at Nairaland you have no 'powers'.
Nor is your 'bishop' a MOG, according to your own definition.
Are you going to recognise this publicly now?



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Re: Oyedepo Sends God’s Judgment Missiles Into Boko Haram Camp
« #25 »

For any one here who is ranting his or her mouth against Gods servant MAY THE JUDGEMENT OF GOD his servant spews from his mouth rest upon you all in this page, since you dont know the difference between Gods servant, man of God, and a prophet of God, just like in the bible, those children that came out abusing and laughing at Gods servants "PROPHET ELIJAH", and he instantly caused them and the wild beast came out from the bush and devour them all, may such heavy calamity rest upon you all and your families. This week if heavy calamity does not come to you and your family members. then God has not called Bishop David Oyedepo. EXCERPT GOD HAS NOT CALL BISHOP DAVID OYEDEPO, WILL YOU PEOPLE GOD SCOT FREE WITH ABUSING GOD'S SERVANT. I stand tto let you know that, "right from the days of John the baptist, the Kingdom of God suffereth violence and its only the violence that will take it by force" Do you think a president Johnathan is silly to go and kneel or Obasanjo before adeboye for prayers, and you mere beings just sit down here to be abusing these men of God, anyway the bible has said "for my people perished for lack of knowledge, lack of understanding, lack of wisdom" repent or this impending calamity will rest upon you and your family members, a word is enough for the wise.

^^^ An honest reply. I agree.

My own Dad came to the UK from Nigeria with a false identity.
I know absolutely nothing about his family and suspect even my sirname is a product of his flight from Nigeria.
I enjoy reading about people who DO know about their family roots.

It is, it is.

usanieja, 1 day to go for calamity to 'smite' my family.
What are you going to do tomorrow?

Don't you think today, Sunday, is a good time to pray for guidance and freedom from idolatry?
Your silence has spoken louder than words, you know!

Re: Oyedepo Sends God’s Judgment Missiles Into Boko Haram Camp
« #25 »

For any one here who is ranting his or her mouth against Gods servant MAY THE JUDGEMENT OF GOD his servant spews from his mouth rest upon you all in this page, since you dont know the difference between Gods servant, man of God, and a prophet of God, just like in the bible, those children that came out abusing and laughing at Gods servants "PROPHET ELIJAH", and he instantly caused them and the wild beast came out from the bush and devour them all, may such heavy calamity rest upon you all and your families. This week if heavy calamity does not come to you and your family members. then God has not called Bishop David Oyedepo. EXCERPT GOD HAS NOT CALL BISHOP DAVID OYEDEPO, WILL YOU PEOPLE GOD SCOT FREE WITH ABUSING GOD'S SERVANT. I stand tto let you know that, "right from the days of John the baptist, the Kingdom of God suffereth violence and its only the violence that will take it by force" Do you think a president Johnathan is silly to go and kneel or Obasanjo before adeboye for prayers, and you mere beings just sit down here to be abusing these men of God, anyway the bible has said "for my people perished for lack of knowledge, lack of understanding, lack of wisdom" repent or this impending calamity will rest upon you and your family members, a word is enough for the wise.

This is completely ridiculous.
Does anyone really believe this pastor has the same powers as an OT prophet or the Lord Himself?
One of the bishop's fervent followers actually cursed me and my family in this thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-852413.128.html#msg10065702

Lets see what happens.

usanieja, 2 days to go for calamity to 'smite' my family.
What are you going to do next Monday?
Do you plan on recognising that your 'cursing' is without the Lord's mandate?
Will you renounce these foolish ways?

Re: Oyedepo Sends God’s Judgment Missiles Into Boko Haram Camp
« #25 »

For any one here who is ranting his or her mouth against Gods servant MAY THE JUDGEMENT OF GOD his servant spews from his mouth rest upon you all in this page, since you dont know the difference between Gods servant, man of God, and a prophet of God, just like in the bible, those children that came out abusing and laughing at Gods servants "PROPHET ELIJAH", and he instantly caused them and the wild beast came out from the bush and devour them all, may such heavy calamity rest upon you all and your families. This week if heavy calamity does not come to you and your family members. then God has not called Bishop David Oyedepo. EXCERPT GOD HAS NOT CALL BISHOP DAVID OYEDEPO, WILL YOU PEOPLE GOD SCOT FREE WITH ABUSING GOD'S SERVANT. I stand tto let you know that, "right from the days of John the baptist, the Kingdom of God suffereth violence and its only the violence that will take it by force" Do you think a president Johnathan is silly to go and kneel or Obasanjo before adeboye for prayers, and you mere beings just sit down here to be abusing these men of God, anyway the bible has said "for my people perished for lack of knowledge, lack of understanding, lack of wisdom" repent or this impending calamity will rest upon you and your family members, a word is enough for the wise.

I watched the video.
Does this sort of thing really take in people?

manmustwac:

When you take your child to see your pastor because your child is sick and pastor just offers to pray for him/her instead of offering financial help whereas if it was his own child he would take him to the best hospital or if need be send him abroad for hospital treatment.

When you're child is sick, you should take him/her to a DOCTOR, not a pastor.

The odds are in your favour, of course.
But let's put the emphasis on medical attention because diagnosing via a forum can be very misleading.

^^^
Good to know that.
And yes, I agree with you here:

Phocomelia has been known to occur spontaneously and the only drug which causes it is nearly impossible to obtain, even in the first world. The odds that the mother was to blame are nearly zero. I think she has more than enough problems already without having to deal with that kind of accusation.

Both the doctor and the journalist who printed this rubbish should be ashamed.

I see Wiki relates it to thalidomide use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phocomelia

Is thalidomide still available in Nigeria?

From the OP:

“The authorities must continue to educate the citizens on the bad effects of self medication,” he added.

Another poster has mentioned the possible effects of herbal 'remedies'.
However, no one has yet mentioned that the mother's possible exposure to polio could result in birth defects.
And I can't help wondering if there isn't thalidomide still available.

, Several toxins, medications and even vitamins are indeed known to affect limb development. The most notorious is thalidomide, a medication prescribed in the 1950s and early 1960s to help relieve nausea in early pregnancy. This led to a number of children, mostly in Europe, who were born with very short upper limbs, often with the hands attached up near the shoulders. These children frequently had severe deficiencies in their legs as well.

From http://www.amputee-coalition.org/inmotion/jan_feb_06/congenital_limb_part1.html

I'd like to emphasise the importance of decent medical care and education during pregnancy.
And yes, polio vaccination.
Please!