Enigma:

^^^ That is sheer nonsense! If your own reading skills are poor, that is your problem; don't go projecting it to others.

Your own links - especially the two articles - take the arguments of the "scholars" and deconstruct them to refute the claims that Peter is not the author of 2 Peter. After addressing and deconstructing the claims, they conclude that there is no/insufficient proof for the claims, so they stick to the position and conclusion that Peter wrote the book.

Of course, that would not prevent sciolists from peddling the same tired old lines.

I see you accept the deconstruction and refutation made in those articles.
I don't. I find their conclusions a classic example of confirmation bias and in fact that's why I posted them.
I see I should have been more clear.

I AM surprised you took their 'conclusions' seriously, but it IS true that the authorship question is emotionally charged.

^^^Don't bother.
So much for that silly myth 419ers only target rich stupid Westerners!
They are like sharks- no mercy, no discrimination.

And?

Enigma:

Meanwhile, each of the three links above refutes the allegations that Peter is not the author of 2 Peter.

Sharpen your reading skills. The authors are very touchy on the subject. They present a great deal of evidence to refute Peter's authorship and then in the final paragraph, simply state they personally don't go along with  it.

It's a subject which is very sensitive to a lot of people, but cherry-picking quotes from the articles (as you have done) only shows a dishonest approach to discussing the subject.

FXKing2012:



Mind how you talk about the men of God, you just might be bringing curses your way by the words of your mouth.

Please stop posting as though you actually believed such nonsense. I've proven  the falseness of such vain threats.

It's impressive how crossman9 takes the opportunity to foment religious hatred!

It does, indeed, but not in the way you might have intended.
Peter II is accepted by the majority of bibical scholars to be not written by Peter, but by a later author.
http://bible.org/article/authorship-second-peter

For Calvin's opinion:
http://euangelizomai..com/2007/09/calvin-on-authorship-of-2-peter.html

Rather long, but worth reading:
http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/2peter_green.pdf

I'm not so sure.
Galatians 3:28:20 “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”

I'm not alone in thinking Paul's letters represent preaching, not the word of God.

http://www.growthingod.org.uk/scriptur.htm

^^^
Your request for chapter and verse was to crossman9, not me.

FXKing2012:

It means if you are spiritually strong enough to bind/proclaim/curse, etc on earth, it will be sanctioned in heaven and thus must come to pass.

You have an interesting point of view. How do you reach that conclusion, given the verse itself?
I've taken the trouble to reada number of interpretations of matthew 18:18, none of them talk about proclaiming or cursing.
here's some context for you:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/3307-binding-and-loosing
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/binding_and_loosing.html

and most intersting
http://bible.cc/matthew/18-18.htm

"Barnes' Notes on the Bible

Whatsoever ye shall bind , - See the notes at Matthew 16:19. These words were spoken to the apostles. Jesus had before addressed the same words to Peter, Matthew 16:19. He employs them here to signify that they all had the same power; that in ordering the affairs of the church he did not intend to give Peter any supremacy or any exclusive right to regulate it. The meaning of this verse is, whatever you shall do in the discipline of the church shall be approved by God or bound in heaven. This promise, therefore, cannot be understood as extending to all Christians or ministers, for all others but the apostles may err. "

^^^FXKing2012, I'm saying you're so lazy you couldn't be bothered to Google a bible quote.
So I sourced it you.

Let me get this straight- Paul's preaching is the word of god because it's the word of god.

Image123:

Because they are. Even Peter the fisherman knew that.

OK. Are you referring to Acts 11 1-18?

2good:

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Deuteronomy 4:2, Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you
New Living Translation (©2007) Deuteronomy 4:2, Do not add to or subtract from these commands I am giving you. Just obey the commands of the LORD your God that I am giving you.

Also remember that The bible was written by men inspired by god, meaning what Paul wrote is what god told him to write, so what extra explanation does the OP want again

Doesn't Acts11 1-18 overturn Deuteronomy?
Also, saying Paul's preaching = word of God because his preaching is in the bible sounds like you're saying "It's true because thebible says so."

^^^ What a lazy fellow you are, to be sure.
You apply a text referring to the apostle Peter to Oyedeo and then don't the courtesy to provide chaper and verse.

I Googled it, FXKing2012.
It's Matthew 18:18

Now try explaining what this text has to do with some preacher cursing BH, please.

PA1982

Sounds like you need to get your “p45” as we say in the UK as you’re out of JOB here

Who died to make you forum king?
I'll post as I see fit.

@FXKing2012- try googling the text "And don't address anyone here on earth as 'Father,' for only God in heaven is your spiritual Father. "
I did, and it's Matthew 23 9.

First of all, well done on the requirement for registration!
This is a step in the right direction.


There are so many things wrong with this situation.
All the best to those who have to investigate what promises to be a story of lies, ineptitude and ignoring warning signs.

,
“He worked as a medical doctor from October 1, 2010 to January 2012. We have called the team leader of the Residency Committee that interviewed him; we are still compiling their records to see who recommended him for employment.

“This issue is serious because it is something that affects human lives. We will go through the investigation and point out where all the lapses are to the government because we do not know how many of such people will be in government employ.”,

Speaking with Metro, Kejohu, who was looking sober, said his friend (Dr. Collins Okafor) gave him the certificate in the presence of his parents (Collins’) before he died four years ago.

He said, “Before Dr. Collins Okafor died, he called me by his sick bed as his best friend and said he would give me his certificate, which he did in the presence of his family. I studied at the School of Health Technology in Benue State. I have worked for over one year at the General Hospital in Calabar but never handled any surgery.”

tonymaz:

The use of the word "charlatan" to describe ministers and churches, is inappropriate. The fact that some Pastor's who were called of God, but somehow due to sin and carelessness, lost their anointing, and went to Satan to acquire powers to perform miracles exits here in Nigeria, doesn't make every pastor or ministry bad. , Remain blessed

You missed my point.
And 'charlatan' perfectly describes someone who knowingly tries to pull one over on the vulnerable.

That there are real ministers of souls isn't the question.
Please don't put words in my mouth!

Hmm.
Why should Paul's letters be considered the Word of God?

daregold:

TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED AND DO MY PROPHETS NO HARM,


Psalm:
{105:14} He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings
for their sakes;
{105:15} [Saying,] Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.


Eh Don't Join this people oo.Leave Any Man Anointed of God to Be Judged by God.If u think you are Better go and do the Best.

We've gone over this nonsense before.
Do I really have to post up the rebuttal of that 'anointed' argument again?

Why don't you read the thread I quoted?
I've made it very clear what I think of cursing in the Lord's name.

obxddon:

first , lets stop insulting these bois,
they are just a product of the society,the belife is that wen u belong you would get tins and jobs after you gradg and u know naija na, everytin is man know man, so some hw dem wan secure dier future, but in a follish way.

Boys? Just a product of society?
Are you serious?

^^^ Are you drunk?
Religion is an essential part of the OP!

FXKing2012:

Anything the Man of God touches must prosper. The Bible says all things are ours, so it's no surprise Yookos is about to surpass facebook. Yookos may even buy facebook very soon.

And I notice something quite disturbing: so many people are so quick to judge and abuse men of God. Pls stop it and ask for forgiveness in order not to be condemned.

Once again with that 'condemned' nonsense. Can't let it go, even when shown those threats are empty!

FXKing2012:

Since when has exposing the truth become foolish. The devil will never want the truth be told so people do not follow the true God.

You really are deluded!
In that thread I exposed the uselessness of those curses.
Read through the thread and learn something.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-859846.32.html

Or is the devil clouding your reading ability?

FXKing2012:

The terrorist are already condemned, why would u wanna join them in being condmned?

Condemned?
The way that deluded cultist condemned me and my family?
Get real.

BH is condemned by their very nature to splinter and splinter again.
If you're going to pray or curse, target the financial backers of BH, not people who refuse to be bullied here!

^^^Nonsense.
We've already gone over that silly oyedepo fiasco. Why bring it up again?
Inotice you don't address the issue at hand.

^^^

FXKing2012:

It is true that Bishop Oyedepo's missile has started causing confusion in the camp of Boko Haram, just go to https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-859846.32.html to see how.

I'm amazed you're foolish enough to cite that thread here!

I'd only be happy with one gift-
An end to religious conflict in Nigeria.

chidyke77:

The guy is just a courier and doesn't know anytin about the trade to the point of taking such great risk to Malaysia,he's just lucky because he would hv bn caught in Malaysia.

I agree. Really quite dim, this fellow.
And yes, tremendously lucky he wasn't caught in Malaysia.

^^^
Yes and no.
My immediate reaction is is to agree with you.
But remember, this is a forum.
We don't know the whole story and haven't interviewed the patient.
What could snap one patient out of the syndrome could push another into total despair, so I'd advise professional help and lots and lots of love.

Photoshop.

^^^
This.
Plus, I like many others, have had family members sucked dry by charlatans preaching in Christ' name.
I have the right to say the Emperor has no clothes!

I call hoax.
A quick google serch shows Sheik Sani Haliru only shows in 'Christian' sourced reports of this interview.

Crossman, you have a lot to learn if you think menstrual difficulties are caused by curses.
You're aware those exact Scripture verses have been used over the last 1,500 years to expalain that a given moment in time is the End Times?
You can twist Holy Writ to justify ANY date or epoch as the End TImes.
Shame on you!

2buff:

^^ You there making up rubbish just for the sake of sounding funny on some random forum, would you now be surprised when boko haram bombs YOUR family members?

All respect for the victims of violence. All respect.
None for charlatans and their deluded followers.

FXKing2012:

Those of u making jest of the Word of God and MOG, I pray God's judgement does not come down hard on you. I shed tears to see what the devil has turned men into; this is really disturbing. The earlier you give your heart to Christ and learn to honour men of God, the better for you.

Hmm. I see you didn't read the thread I posted up.
Here it is again:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=852413.msg10097369#msg10097369

Nothing happened, FXKing2012.
Nothing.
How long are you going to cling to foolish superstition?


You "shed tears to see what the devil has turned men into".
I assume you're talking about child prostitution, fraud, arms traffic and drug dealing?