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In Nigeria, we would rather thank God and the pastor instead. After all, doctors, and all health workers treat, but God heals �

TheGiftedOne:
Too bad. Had this happened in Nigeria we would have blamed it on negligence and incompetence. Unfortunately even in the so called civilized country, he still died without even a fight from the medics. My condolences to the bereaved family and friends.

Without a fight from medics? Did we read the same article as he was clearly admitted to ITU.

Condolences to the family

Just wondering if the story will be the same had he been caught sleeping with an even older oyibo woman

NGpatriot:
Another kolomental low self-esteem and inferiority complex ipob..







Abeg say hi to Trump, we are doing great in Nigeria

275/19774 expressed as a percentage equals 1.39% death rate.

Why are you creating misinformation by posting an old article in the first instance, then confusing the reader with new figures on the same thread, and then insisting both figures are correct.
Don't be foolish if you can help it.

Is there any reason you are posting an article from the 6th of March today??

babaolofin:
The world knew covid - 19 is an attack against China but kept quiet. Whenever there is such calculated attack on humanity there is usually a very strong defence of such attack as being natural by the mafia and people benefitting from such attack.

HIV (AIDS) was to reduce population particularly in black countries after Planned Parenthood Federation mechanisms failed to yield desired result.
All over the world, including Nigeria, those who made this claim with proofs and those who claimed to have AIDS (HIV deficiency) cure were attacked seriously and frustrated, some lost their life, some lost their businesses, some or their wives got infected. This shows how strong this mafia operates.

Avian Flu came at the period Nigeria was making breakthrough in Poultry farming and business exporting processed birds to some African Countries and to Europe. Avian Flu attacked a very large farm in Nigeria belonging to a serving Minister under Obasanjo. That marked the end of poultry export that time as those countries including EU issued warning against poultry products importation from Countries with Avian Flu attacks.

China has dealt a great blow on the US technology wise. As a telecom engineer I suspected this COVID - 19 as an attack.

For a telecom engineer, you chat a lot of sh.it

AkpaMgbor:
Now I realise I was engaging a dimwit.....

Before your conveniently back down under cover of me being a dimwit, can you answer me this one question
Is it safe to say Oyedepo's god misinformed him about having a grand service on a day US authorities would ban public gatherings. Or did he simply not discuss with god prior to choosing a date for this service?

AkpaMgbor:
If you even bothered to read the article instead of jumping on the thread topic like a typical Nigerian who is averse to reading, you would have known that the maryland authority banned all public gathering and hence it would be foolhardy for a church to disobey the government especially in such dire situation...it was never about oyedepo's genuiness or not...it was never about miracles or not...but you rushed on it because you saw an opportunity to pour your bile on oyedepo and the church...

Oh dear, you're irredeemable. You just chat a load of rubbish.
The question remains, why didn't Oyedepo's god prewarn him of this, why didn't his god advise him to chose a better date and time? What wasteful god would let time, energy, money spent planning all of this go to waste?
Most importantly, why is Oyedepo (and his god) bowing to a force majeure? Has he run out of faith? If his faith can move mountains, how much less coronavirus (not)

Go and sleep man, religiousity will not kill you. I'm sure you're the same one who collects bribe at work, steal from others, fornicate around, but here you are carrying Oyedepo on your head. Akpa amu!

AkpaMgbor:
Quit trying to come off as smart I can see through your pseudo intelligence.. If you claim your God is different from oyedepo's because of this thread then you are even more confused. CHRIST couldn't do miracles in Nazareth and even on the cross people like you mocked him and said " he claims to be the son of God, he healed people and raised the dead why can't he save himself now". No be today your type begin dey this earth.

Wtf are you on about
Oh my, religion is truly the opium of the masses. A man as learned as you, able to string decent sentences together, would excuse this charade because even Christ did not perform miracles in Nazareth therfore Oyedepo can't be expected to perform miracles in USA, what sort of warped, flawed, senseless logic is that? Or were you just trying to sound off a Bible verse.

Siscooh:
In as much as they can perform Miracles, the auction and direction for miracles comes through the workings of the Holy Spirit. No man determines when and how it happens. I will rather you focus on the message God is sending to us through these happenings. Get closer to your maker and stop using every opportunity to MOCK Him. The world and all it's passing glory is gradually fading away. Only God can save this world.

1 question, and I hope you give a yes or no answer.
Are christians (born again) dying of COVID 19 also?

AkpaMgbor:
So Mr wannabe atheist which God should save you from buffoonery?? When your life is on the line it is your type that will still beg saying " God help me" or " I beg you in the name of God"...

I knew a less discerning post like this will be championed by a religious fanatic like you. If you look, you can see why the initial 'God' is reverently capitalised, and Oyedepo's god isn't. Things like that are clearly not obvious to you.

merahki:
I think it’s best for us to sit this one out
We know nothing, absolutely nothing, when the chips are down
By we I mean the Africans, especially people in the area called Nigeria. We are wont to spew academic, partisan sans facts arguments a lot.
It would be real unintelligent of us to join in the COVID-19 discourse
Let’s be merely ignorant as we are, being ignorant as well as unintelligent would just be too much for me to bear
When we have not even actually identified why “rats occupied the Aso Villa for months” we now want to pontificate on the what, how and why of COVID

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Typical Nigerians. Do you not know there are the eagle eyed among us who can see the sun from the shade lol.
They glean information from Chinese conspiracy websites, pass this on as facts, and swear by it.

am4truth:
Senseless post from a wayward and disobedient child.
I pity your likes.. No regards for God.. You just die like fowls. You better beware and retrace your steps back to your maker, before you incur the wrath of the Most High God.
Lack of home training is disturbing you.

Oh dear, you're so ignorant.
Whether or not you die from COVID 19 is independent of your religion. Even you, there's no assurance you'll survive if you catch the virus. Sinners and Born again Christians are all dying from the viral infection. Sheeesh.

am4truth:
Senseless post from an heart hijacked by the devil.
Nonsense....

Typical brainless response. I wasn't expecting much more, to be honest

max4osas:
You guys are so quick to comment.
Even without reading the post, you are quick to say words .
The post reads that Pst. Isaac Oyedepo, winners chapel USA has called for online service because a state of Emergency has been declared in Maryland.
Is he supposed to Disobey authorities and not apply wisdom.

Anyway, Data is so cheap nowadays

God save us from the buffoonery called religion in Nigeria.

So his god couldn't even tell him what day to choose to have this service go on uninterrupted . Its safe to say his god misinformed him, and has caused such great waste of funds contributed by his poor members. All that effort, money and planning down the drain, and now there'll be an online service. Why didn't his god tell him to organise an online service ab initio.

The scam called god in Nigeria. If it happens, its god. If it doesn't, you don't have enough faith, or its not gods will. My very naive, impressionable Nigerians will wake up one day.

Zooposki:
The Chinese official is right. That was my thought as well. US created this monster. I said so in a previous post, even before the Chinese official made this known.

LOL... Do you know the meaning of 'right'. Even the Chinese accept this is speculative, but you have concluded this to be a fact, for no other reason but that you agree with it.
Tell me you're having a laugh.

GamalNasser:
Why is COVID more rampart in place with active 5g signal ..is 5 g weakening human immunity ?

This one is still a baby conspiracy theorist. Go and learn before looking for who to follow your brainless claims.

OKOATA:
Must you guys be negative in all situations? This corona nonsense hasn’t caught any African in his own soil as far as I know. If people had caught it we would have heard deaths no matter what. It’s been past 14days since the Italian man came and all the people they quarantined tested negative so why are you being so negative all the time. Try to be positive Abeg. Too negative minded is bad for you and that guy you quoted.

Do Africans in Africa have a different immune constitution to Africans elsewhere?
The point being made is that you and me will not go to hospital because of flu like symptoms, hence there is an understandable concern the virus may be spreading. Of course, one hopes it isn't, but what if it is. In these times, there's no sense in being positive. Prepare for the worst, that's what all other countries are doing, while we, on the other hand, are hoping for the best in Jesus's name.

safarigirl:
this isn't self deceit though

Over 90,000 people have gotten this virus and somehow, it is yet to spread in Africa, Coronavirus is not compatible with Africans as it is with other people/continents. This is what experts have suggested

It is not self-deceit, some of you just believe that you deserve every virus the world has to offer because you are in Africa. How many Africans have been infected by SARS, another virus that emanates from Asia?

Give it time, come back in a week with your "We are immune to COVID 19" claim. Youve only just got patient zero, and you're wondering why COVID isn't spreading.

That line about deserving every virus is just utter and complete rubbish.
A viral infection will affect anyone, whether they be brown, white, black or bleached.

All epidemics start with patient zero, then the story tells itself from then on. One only hopes we can at least delay its inevitable spread.

crackkhaus:
I will summarize all this for you so you can understand how burden of proof works.

That you don't believe something you heard ever happened does not automatically invalidate the possibility of that event happening, it only means you don't believe it... nothing more.

It's left for you to prove such a thing can never happen, which will elevate your doubt from a simplistic realm of just mere disbelief...


Another example...
If someone came here to tell us that he experienced a major earthquake in Kaduna, my automatic response will be I don't believe it. Now for me to prove he is lying, I can simply tell him that geographically it is impossible for a major earthquake to occur in a place that has no plate boundary. In fact, it's more likely that Boko Haram will kill every single human in Kaduna than for a major earthquake to occure.

This isn't just my disbelief anymore, it's me providing factual basis why that event cannot happen.

Are you following me yet?
Should I continue?

Thanks for your circuitous summary which has added little in value to this discussion, if I'm honest. You seem to be most elusive in your opinions.

My whole goal has been to get people to think of possibilities to this experience. I'm glad I've got you from saying "you can't argue someone else's experience with them" to actually questioning their experience, and proffering alternative explanations. You don't see that your argument has changed its bearing since this morning, which I think is just funny and reassuring - reassuring that persistence would bring change even if subtle to you. My point has always been about critical thinking, and I remain unwavering in that line of argument.

I do not expect we would come to an agreement, but getting you to think more holistically has made my day.

I hope you have a good day my friend.

Originalsly:
Not wanting that.... but I'm a realist. With her beauty and stats.... when top agencies come knocking at her door to sign 6 figure/million dollar contracts... do you really think her parents will refuse? Being a model doesn't mean that's all she will be. Think Tyra Banks.... modeling opened sooo many doors for her. Being a model in Nigeria is a whole different something.

I agree with you. She's got all the trappings of a model

ubunja:
model is work. Wife is being paid to do nothing. Do the math.

If you simply said wife, I won't have an argument with you. You said she should chase after white men who fetishisize her skin colour. I don't think that's something we should recommend at all.

Originalsly:
I thought so... and looking at the background. Can't trust these bloggers... they'll take a photo and build a story on it

Burlington Hounds....... Burlington High School...Iowa..USA!

....I thought it... you said it!

Regardless..... she is very pretty! They will soon snatch her to be a model.

Ubunja, do you see what normal people want for this girl - to be a model.
Hope you're having a good day x

crackkhaus:
His answer will solve all this your plenty English, relax.

Meanwhile, focus on proving hallucinations on the part of the person seeing a dead person.

You're still missing the point, unfortunately.

crackkhaus:
See this guy stylishly ducking out by validating me...

I still believe it is a paranormal event, I don't know where you got the impression that I waved it off.

You however, are of the opinion that such an event cannot take place, and you've given some reasons why (drug-induced hallucinations, etc).

Now prove that the person in the OP was indeed high and saw nothing.
Don't run, you go prove am today...

I'm here all day, Crackkhaus, I've got nothing but time on my hands. I'm ensconced on my sofa and I've been since waking up lol
I believe in giving credit where its due, which I've done to you, not a stylish ducking at all.

I have no intention of proving anything; it's ridiculous to ask me for a proof, when, from the outset, my point is that the OP needs to show us incontrovertible proof of his experience. If we had CCTVs and he made a claim like that, it would be a million times easier to prove him right or wrong. The stories are rampant because no one asks any questions. Elsewhere you better have proof of your experience if you're wanting to get others to believe you.

crackkhaus:
My brother, if I understood what I typed and someone else understood what I typed, yet you say you don't have the vaguest idea what I typed...then where is the problem coming from?

I think I'm almost there with you tbh

At present we have no proof that Davash understood you, but you've accepted it for a fact that he did. And your proof is because he disagrees with me, then he agrees with you.

We could ask him now and he would say he agrees with you, but at the time you made the claim, you did not have any evidence of it, yet sold it as fact.
That's my point

crackkhaus:
My point exactly...

Prove that he can't be telling the truth because he was on hallucinogens, had a concussion, or was just delirious from a bad infection.
The burden of proof rests on you to show exactly why his experience is completely impossible.


If you come to me and tell me that you have performed emergency CPR on someone and saved the person's life, it is your experience which I can't argue against.
However, if I am in doubt about your ability to perform CPR, I can simply ask you where you received your CPR training and when you answer that you have no training in giving CPR, then I have proved that you are incapable of performing CPR on anyone, much less saving the person's life... Ergo, your experience is a lie.

Are you following me now?

Finally!!!
Now I'm getting you to critically appraise the situation, rather than wave it off as a paranormal event.
I'm genuinely proud of what I've achieved with you.
And your example about CPR couldn't be more appropriate.
Well done, Crackkhaus!

crackkhaus:
You know we could just ask right?

Davash222, did you understand this comment below?

I couldn't care less whether he agrees or not.
My point is the fact that Davash replied my comment to you is absolutely NO proof that your earlier point was unambiguous. Why is it hard for you to understand that.

crackkhaus:
Yup, that's the explanation about why nothing is making sense to you here.

Davash understood it given his comment to you, so you're on your own.

Here he goes again with his bizarre conclusions.
Davash was referring to my comment. Now you've interpreted that to mean he understood your comment enough to agree with you, when he was merely passing judgment on my comment. You need to think more critically Mr.

crackkhaus:
You're so comfortable in your silliness and unwillingness to understand, so nothing is going to make sense to you.

When a person claims they said/saw/did something, the burden of proof does not rest on the person. It rests on you who doubts his account to proove him wrong. This is how basic argumentum works.

Like someone else schooled you on earlier, you cannot argue someone's experience with them... and I'll add, based on nothing but your disbelief. That alone should have shut you up but you keep trying to outdo yourself for whatever reason.

Exactly the thought process that makes these experiences only rampant in Nigeria. People like you, who ought to be educated, can't argue other peoples experiences. In what universe do you make an incoherent claim, and the generality of people throw their weight behind it, no questions asked.
'Don't argue other people's experiences', what a most ridiculous thing to say! And you have no proof, no counter points. Only the tired line that he's reported it therefore it is true. How gullible and naive of you!
What if the OP had taken some hallucinogens? What if he was delirious from a bad infection? What is he had a concussion from a fight the night before? Of course you can't think of any of that. Your one track mind says "he said it therefore it is true", which is the exact reason we are under the spell of religion, superstition and misinformation in this country.

crackkhaus:
I asked you before, I'm asking you again.

Who told you these things don't happen anywhere else?

Highlight any one of those events and let's analyse it mate. I only ask that you come with a scientific mind, not a superstitious one.