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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:09am On May 31, 2015
agaugust:
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You have no proof !

Economic speed of Warrior boat is NOT defined anywhere !

Range, miles: 1,500 at 30 knot; 3,600+ at economical speed

http://navy.mil.za/equipment/patrol.htm

Your argument of out-ranging the P18N is therefore ruined !

Only way to compare two ships ranges is to bring them to the same level speed knots

P18N range is 3,000 miles at 14 knots

Warrior is 3,600 miles at economic speed, how many knots is economic speed ?

#Patches Argument Stuck In the Mud....Sank Beyond Redemption shocked shocked
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I will post citations when you post citations for decoy effectiveness and Gripen ground search radar
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:36pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
Google Algerian and Egyptian army air defences. I won't waste my time on Arab countries. Use your own time.
yet again you refuse a simple request

Now, is Pantsir-S1 capable of CRAM?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:30pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
Deployed inside South African homeland territory, or are they in Ghana ? grin grin
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Private security protects private land

No problem
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:29pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
Your Soweto braisn work in only one direction and always in reverse gear.

NAF has massive air to ground attack experience. Why drop bomb at 2,000 km/hr when Umkhonto cannot work beyond 8km ceiling.

F-7 will fly at 9km and drop air explosive time delay bombs, he can fly at 800 km/hr if he wishes, your Umkhonto is useless at that height.

Ya got a new lesson from my 101 book, say thank you.

Just to let you know, combat pilots are not fools who only think in one way, their head is full of 101 different war tactics
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Ok - and our CRAM shoots the bomb out of the sky

You said this is possible!
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:25pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
American mercenaries and currently serving soldiers inside South Africa to help cowardly SANDF kill Rhino poachers tongue tongue

See them ridding on South African MRAP as warloads.....saviours of South Africa !

https://navyseals.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Rhino-Wars.jpg
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Deployed on private land with no relation to the SANDF or SAPS
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:19pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
Please pretend, so that your will not have heart attack
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Yes, I will have a heart attack

Because if that is a serious post, it means that I have spent the last 6 months arguing with a complete and utter loon and as such have completely wasted my time.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:18pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
A damage is not a kill. Wounded soldiers still get bandaged and fight.

Did I hear you say now it's 5 missile fired? You said before that it was only 3 Exocets fired, you love the way I teach you, right ?
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Read my first post:

Patchesagain:
HMS SHEFFIELD - mortally damaged south east of Falklands by Exocet missile. Burnt out and sank in tow on Monday 10th May
ATLANTIC CONVEYOR - mortally damaged north east of Falklands by Exocet missile fired by Super Etendard of CANA 2 Esc. Burnt out and later sank in tow.
HMS Glamorgan - damaged off Stanley by land-based Exocet missile
http://www.naval-history.net/F62-Falklands-British_ships_lost.htm


5 exocet were sold to argentina
http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/falkland-islands/45704/bbc-finds-evidence-french-helped-argentines-sink-our-ships

HMS Sheffield had chaff launchers

3/5 = 60% hit probability

60% of 17 = 10

10 of our Exocet will hit your one OPV

It will be atomized grin
I love the way that you are unable to read even the simplest posts
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:16pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
Too defeated to respond to superior combat tactics 101
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I am going to pretend that your post is a joke
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:10pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
The F-7 will drop incendiary bomb with time detonation over your head if you don't fire missile on the jet.

F-7 pilots are not fools after a thousand and one air to ground attack combat experience, he will make next run with a bomb that will detonate by itself in the air above your ship, the falling burning debris and shrapnel will cause a fire on your ship !

If not careful the burning bomb splinters will land on fuel or oils, or even on your missile silo, or main gun shell ammo chambers.

Your ship will be so terrified of the reality that they are helpless, they will defend to shoot down the F-7 ....or watch while splintered bomb debris starts a fire on your Frigate, damage radar mast, damage deck top electronics and sensors....till your radar is wrecked and you cannot do radar detection, radar tracking, radar fire control guidance anymore.

Then you will know that you have sailed into a Lion's den called Nigerian oceans !

Fool, you think war is simple one way traffic with tactless pilots flying jets? 101 tactics, air to ground attack
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What the actual fvck did i just read?

Too stu.pid to even respond to
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:07pm On May 30, 2015
I love how augubugug twists and turns

He has been demanding so much from us.

But every time we ask him to prove the effectiveness of his decoys - he runs away.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:03pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
you should have bought Otomat like Nigeria
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Otomat has never killed anything in its entire existance
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:02pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
I trapped you again...fool grin grin

Your Southie friends said SAN has tested Exocet on 4 frigates, so you fired four. They boasted here about your training grin grin

You now say South Africa has NO missile test firing experience at sea ?

#Trap....How many Exocets do you have now ?
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Again, irrelevant
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:01pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
5 missiles fired, 2 ships sunk. 2/5 = 40 % kill ratio.....bad bad bad missile, you should have bought Otomat like Nigeria
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5 missiles fired

2 ships sunk

1 ship damaged

60% hit ratio.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:00pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
3 Occasions does not mean 3 missiles....you Gauteng buffoon ! You know nothing about sea warfare !

1 Occasion 2 missiles fired, another occassion 2 missiles fired, then last occasion 1 missile fired.

All 5 Exocets were fired, and 2 ships sank.....so hit rate is 40% for Exocet....bad missile grin grin

"Between August and November 1981, five Super Étendards and five Exocets were shipped to Argentina. All five of the missiles were used during the conflict, with one missile hitting the British destroyer HMS Sheffield and two the merchant aircraft transporter Atlantic Conveyor. Two missiles were used in each of those attacks."

http://www.airforceworld.com/attacker/eng/super_etendard.htm

The war history you are shouting about is beyond your low brain level, so I have educated you again as usual my school boy Patrick grin grin

I own you Patches, ALL your arguments about sea warfare are hereby destroyed because you know NOTHING about naval battle in the oceans.

Yes, I own you Patches, Nigerian OPVs will sink ALL South African Frigates in minutes of battle !
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So you confirm 60% hit rate? You also confirm that chaff does not defeat Exocet?

Thank you very much

5 missiles fired.

3 ships hit

2 sunk

1 damaged.

Exactly what I have been saying grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:56pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
Official data says Valour frigate carries only 16 SAMs, show proof that Germany has rewired the ship for 32 missiles and that SAN has purchased extra missiles into those empty silos. SAN and SAAF are living legends of missile shortages for aircraft and ships grin grin

F-7 will use air to ground long range rocket pods.....Most British ships lost in Falklands were not hit by missiles, it was unguided bombs.

F-7 will sink the Valour frigate in minutes
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1. Its a well known fact, and has been posted here many times
2. We build the missiles ourselves


Most improtant: At what height did the argentines deploy their weapons?

Lets look at this video and see:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsDodFQPeJ0


Hmmm... I think I smell fire... I guess that is your argument going up in flames! grin grin grin


Ok, now that we have established that bomb attacks on ships happen at low level

Lets talk about "long range rocket pods"

What pods do you have?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:54pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
ALL = ALL.

English is not equal to Maths.

ALL does not mean 100%.

You have 13 Exocets, we will defeat them with decoys, but if you have 100 Exocets maybe you can do saturation and overwhelm the system, maybe, just maybe.

ALL does not mean 100 missiles in my statement, my ALL means your 13 missiles, even if it's 17 missiles, we defeat ALL
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Ok.

Now provided a citation to prove it
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:42pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
Citation needed now ! Post citation for definition of Warrior class economic speed !

I don't want Israeli ship, I want the South African version, they are not the same, yours was modified.

Post source of economic speed now !!!!!!!!!

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Ill post citations when you post citations for gripen ground search radar and for the effectivness of your decoy launchers
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:28pm On May 30, 2015
lezz:
one Zulu goes out and a bigger Zulu comes in.

2015 economic summit is talking about BRICs not BRICS.
citation needed
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:27pm On May 30, 2015
lezz:
2012 thank you, kid.

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:15pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
Use google, or are you a born fool ? A fool that says Hind helicopter takes off on desert sand without raising any dust. Mumu Southie grin grin

Algeria has Pantsir CRAM and Egypt has Skyguard and Patriot. Fool grin
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citations please
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:15pm On May 30, 2015
lezz:
kindergarten attempt to deviate. South Africa isn't a bric nember. Funny thing is that you know but won't accept because it's a Nigerian forum .
Picture is worth a thousand words

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:03pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
Citation needed
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is your decoy launcher 100% effective?

Yes or no
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:00pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
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Patches finally admits that Nigerian P18N OPV decoy will defeat South African Valour frigate !
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Is that what I said?

Can you read?

a [single] missile =/= the 8 missiles found on a valour class

Again, I ask, is your decoy launcher 100% effective?

Yes or no
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:59pm On May 30, 2015
lezz:
that is why you aren't a member. You have no bragging rights whatsoever .
No

fvck this.

I am done

- lezz says South Africa is going to get kicked out of BRICS
- lezz then says South Africa is not a member
- lezz does not realize the contradictory nature of these statements

Dude, thats it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:57pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
You were busy since yesterday comparing a 1970s Warrior class boat with a 2014 computerized stealth OPV that carries helicopter grin grin
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In range alone
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:57pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
Prove it is me, prove it...you have behind the scene ID of people on internet forums ? Prove it.

Post my surname and his own so we can compare
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Its you.

We know it.

You know it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:56pm On May 30, 2015
lezz:
read here: O'Neil is the coiner and founder of that term, how on earth do you say no one gives a Jack about him? Because he said a south Africa with a small GDP isn't a BRIC member. grin

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/011315/just-forget-about-b-and-r-bric.asp
Does O'neil have any influence over the policy of the BRICS nations?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:44pm On May 30, 2015
lezz:
Patrick you just lack deductive reasoning. Despite the fact that what you quoted has been overtaken by facts, it is still a pointer that south Africa is a back door member whose membership has been generally agreed to be unmerited both by O'Neil , fellow bric members and international economic analysts.


Tell me if bona FIDE members like Russia and Brazil are currently facing membership expulsion , why are you doubting the membership nullification of an ordinary invitee like south Africa?
Reason: because you are patchesagain who is allergic to facts and NEVER owns up.
1. O'neils opinion is irrelevant. Russia, China, India and Brazil (the actual member states) invited South Africa
2. Who is going to cancel Russia and Brazils membership?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:42pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
Show me real source with tech specs....5 Exocets fired, 2 ships sank....LOL...me too can say hit rate is 2/5 = 40 % grin grin
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3 ships hit, 2 sunk.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:41pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
Your Southie friends said SAN has tested Exocet on 4 frigates, so you fired four. They boasted here about your training grin grin

You now say South Africa has NO missile test firing experience at sea ?

#Trap....How many Exocets do you have now ?
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Irrelevant post
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:41pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
SAN has test fired 4 Exocets, so you have 13 left according to Andrewza your navy man.

Nigeria has OPV anti-missile decoys to waste all your missiles
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So you are saying that your decoy launchers are 100% effective?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:40pm On May 30, 2015
agaugust:
That tells you that NOT ALL the British ships had decoy or used their decoys. The ships that used their decoys defeated Exocet missile.

That is from a source, British navy, not me. Your own 60% rate is from you not a technical source.

Show me real source with tech specs....5 Exocets fired, 2 ships sank....LOL...me too can say hit rate is 2/5 = 40 % grin grin
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actually, according to your own source - exocet hit rate is 100%

Exocets were launched on at least three occasions, each less successful than the last,suggesting that the Royal Navy has developed tactics which render the missile almost ineffective. "

http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1982/1982%20-%201960.PDF

3 out of 5 missiles launched

3 ships hit

2 sunk

1 rendered combat ineffective

#WarHistroyProvesIt

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