₦airaland Forum

jln115:
I don't know bro, and frankly I don't really care, if the people continue to vote for him...then who are we to judge.

Henry120:
- South-Korea got a whole lot of support from the Americans during the Korean war. This is a statistical fact!!

- No evidence the South would defeat the north today in combat. The north will turn soeul to rubble in the same fashion as kobani.


- 55 years of war, and the Colombian government had to plead with Norway to mediate between them and Farc.

*Farc still controls large parts of Colombia, that's not a rebel group on it's knees boy.

- the Iraqi army is U.S setup, trained and equipped you m0ron.

- Kobani is rubble, this isn't breaking the siege. "You don't cut off the wrist because the pinky is rotten".



- Provide evidence that the government of Nigeria hired South-Africans?

Again I ask, do you know what an insurgency is?

- Germany, Japan had bigger militaries before American intervention. Infact American intervention in these countries only left their militaries weak.

Henry120:
The commanding officer's training is supposed to kick in to prevent demoralisation from happening.

A commanding officers effectiveness boils down to the sort of training he has received. If the training is no good, he would abandon over 2300 armoured vehicles.


It is all training, training, training.


And Iraq is a perfect example of the ineffectiveness of U.S training.

Henry120:
-The Syrian army is doing perfectly fine despite attacks from American/sunni funded terrorist groups and ISIS.

- Egypt has over 200 F-16 and over a 1000 Abrams tank. It is much an American failure than it is eastern. Mubarak had very strong ties with the west, SISI is only beginning to diversify.

So the inability of the Egyptian army to quell or degrade insurgents in Egypt is as much fault an Egyptian failure as it is American.

- Angola was a victory for the communists.

- Afghanistan, , 14 years of NATO occupation has produced 30% success.

- Pakistan is militarily very strong, they only face the exact same problem as Turkey and Russia. Home grown insurgency is very difficult to defeat.

- Libya, a prosperous African country, until the Americans arrived!!

jln115:
You drive it back.

Henry120:
"the Iraqi army went from ZERO men in ~2005 to 283,000 in less than a decade. "


Who was in charge of Iraq then, who built the numbers? Shai militia men are the guys who doing most of the heavy lifting.

Colombia = Sh1t.
Israel = experiences from world war II
Germany and Japan = the Axis of evil in world war II. They are both class acts and none of it has anything to do with the Americans.

Henry120:
My comparisons are specific. A de-mining drone or an IED disposal robot aren't the same thing as armed UGV or USV.

The differences have since been clear.

Henry120:
Buhahahahahahahahaha........


*i just hope you knew that was a sarcastic comment.

Armed UGV's are a waste of resources.

Henry120:
Nigeria cancelled the training with the Americans, and not the other way round. Get your facts right.

*that's a legitimate reason to hate the Americans. American deception and hypocrisy stinks to high heavens.

However, that's not the reason why I think American training is sh1t. It simply is, and I have given enough reasons and actual instances why American training is largely ineffective.


- South-Korea was getting their a$ses handed to them in the Korean war before American intervention.

In a battle with the North with outside interference I see same thing happening again. Hi-tech of photographs don't mean effective.


- Farc controls a large chunk of Colombia, despite years after years of American Training, equipment and favour. Militarily Farc is still very effective and are no way on their knees.

- Kobani is rubble..... after over 1000 largely ineffective airstrikes. they broke the siege alright...... as well as the city. nitwit!

- whatever you mean by U.S trained iraqi troops..... the Iraqi Army is completely U.S setup and virtually U.S trained you m0ron!!

- do you even understand what COIN is?


- Japan, Germany all had and still have large very experienced militaries. Nothing to do with the U.S.

mzilakazi:
Since, when was anti-poaching a military assignment?

Henry120:
How then do you reload from KM's away?

Henry120:
USV's like UGV's are terribly useless. Only the IDF is a significant user, even at that, there limitations are well detailed in IDF use.

Henry120:
American training is no good. It just doesn't work!

The Iraqis abandoned over 2300 armoured vehicles in Mosul, in a fighting ratio of 11:1 in favour of the Iraqi army. This is a fighting force that had received extensive American training.


You absolutely cannot blame this on poor leadership.

Henry120:
It is. I hope you do know Canada has pulled out it's order for 65 planes, and is instead looking at the Gripen E/F and Rafale as replacements.

Your Tank comparison is inaccurate. Right from the start, it was clear that the British had invented the world's greatest equipment.

Armed UGV'S are just not it. Asides providing covering fire, i see no other use for them.


@all, the T-14 is to be equipped with an AESA radar. The coolest Tank in the world just got cooler.

agaugust:
Nigerian army trained Zimbabwe who then trained South African army chief of staff.

Nigeria directly trained South African air force deputy chief of staff, we own your entire air force.

Nigerian army trained South Africa in COIN war classrooms in Kaduna.

We own SANDF and SAAF all together

http://www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8196:college-trains-103-counter-insurgency-operatives-from-nigeria-9-other-countries&catid=48:political-news&Itemid=29
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agaugust:
SANDF helicopter that was sh.ot down by Rhino poachers inside your homeland Kruger park while fighting Poachers, is a big evidence
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agaugust:
South Africa CANNOT even deal with local Rhino poachers. What COIN can you do in 2015 when you fail at home !
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agaugust:
American mercenaries came into your homeland soil, not Ghana, never mind who hired them. They were hired because SANDF failed
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agaugust:
PMC not SANDF, a private company trained 120 men.

Russian army and Pakistani army special forces trained 5,000 Nigerian troops as special COIN Brigade within the last 6 months.

South African army did NOTHING ! A private PMC did a tiny little insignificant bit of training.

The big foreign training came from Russia and Pakistan, sources and photos PROVE that !

Southies are glory thieves !

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/terrorism-1200-nigerian-security-personnel-leave-russia/
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agaugust:
Rhino poachers daily invade South Africa from Zimbabwe and Mozambique. The guys rule and reign inside your Kruger park homeland.

SANDF and SAAF fight them to no avail, your air force helicopter crashed chasing Rhino poachers, soldiers died in action.

American mercenaries came to your rescue
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gottfried21:
African cadets in Russia sing while on the parade ground

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu_oRwOQGLE

gottfried21:
African cadets in Russia sing while on the parade ground

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu_oRwOQGLE

Henry120:
[s]It is the most over-rated piece of equipment...... that is, after the F-35 of-course.



Armed UGV's are going to fail just as sea USV have. I see no actual use for the UGV.[/s]

Henry120:
Nothing worth seeing here.

Henry120:
- The South-Koreans were having their a$ses handed to them on a platter by the North before the Americans, Chinese and Soviets joined the fight. This is a statistical fact.


- LOL , you want to talk about the 50+ years of Colombian trouncing by the Farc. While America was busy beating it's chest on T.V and the successes it was having on narco criminals, the FARC was busy grabbing additional territory and Colombia was occupied in reaching the zenith as the world's largest coka producer.


- Buahahahahahahaha........ the over-pampered sunnis who need Senegalese soldiers to do their fighting for them. I hope you do know, 4000 Saudi soldiers fled their barracks amid houthi retaliation. With many reports putting that figure as high as 10,000 men in recent weeks.


- over 1000 strike sorties on a tiny town cannot be considered as a victory you delusional sad nitwit!


- why don't you tell us who trained the Iraqi army? They fled, living behind over 2300 armoured Humvess . That's more armoured vehicles than the combined total of all armoured vehicles in the Southern African region.


- IRAQ!!!



Don't be naive, American COIN strategy has failed, you're only probably to stup1d to acknowledge it.

Henry120:
First of, American training is sh1t. no country from South-Korea, Philippines, Colombia, Iraq, Saudi-Arabia, kuwait, Mali, Cuban dissidents that have received extensive American training have done well in the war.

American trained forces are almost always guaranteed to come out second best in combat.


- most importantly, American Counter-terrorism strategy has been a colossal failure. It just hasn't worked!!



*Funny thing is, every now and then you get American butt-lickers like patches689 claiming it has been successful. Citing Kobani as an example of one of their high points.

AugustineAgain:
Nope, you DO NOT have it !


Bwahahahaha

Total Frustration in South African camp on June 1st

These guy is hilarious, he is now posting guns of Germany and Denmark ! My sides

You are still posting the same Naval Technology website error that does not know the difference between 76mm compact and super rapid !

See, the manufacturer is final authority on their product, Super Rapid is straight line shaped edges NOT round shapes.

Now show me a source that says manufacturer is putting super rapids inside old casing/housing of compact, prove it !

My sides are in orbit on June 1st....Southies in disarray

http://www.otomelara.it/products-services/naval-systems/76-62-super-rapid
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AugustineAgain:
[size=13pt]Thanks for confirming with video evidence that your navy gun is year1977 Compact.

Super Rapid year 1988 gun is totally different and posted below.

I love South African S.uicide comments

http://www.otomelara.it/products-services/naval-systems/76-62-super-rapid
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AugustineAgain:
[size=13pt]Bwahahahaha

South African navy official website and photos say NO, they say you have 1977 Compact gun round headed shape

See your round shaped Compact obsolete naval gun below....Now you show us a Super Rapid gun in South Africa with the straight edge shapes or are you now afraid of posting photos? South Africans afraid to post photos of their own Valour frigate.

Why are you Southies now denying your own blue water frigate that you boast so much about?

Ashamed of your 1977 guns ? No Super Rapid so you fear to show us your ships guns ?
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Centrifude:
Iraqs Army said they abandoned 2300 Armoured Vehicles when they ran away from Mosul.

American trained 3rd world countries take incompetence & Cowardice to a whole new level.