₦airaland Forum

DieVluit:
Living in the US is not a prerequisite for knowing who visits where. Stats are readily available worldwide. That he appeals to unnecessary authority all the time should tell you he doesn't live in the US.

I know he is talking kak

But I want to put pressure on him.

Expose his very character as a complete and utter fraud

[size=15pt]WORLD BANK WORLD TOURISM RANKINGS FINISH THIS DEBATE ONCE AND FOR ALL [/size]

South Africa (Arrivals): 9,188,000
Nigeria (Arrivals): 4,673,000
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/ST.INT.ARVL?order=wbapi_data_value_2012+wbapi_data_value+wbapi_data_value-last&sort=desc

Once again, South Africa trumps Nigeria with ease

agaugust:
No..... beauty varies by what you decide to show and publicize.

Fact that South Africa makes lots of photos of what they have and display their best tourists sites on internet does not makes other countries less beautiful. Every country is not photomaniac.

Most French tourists visit francophone West Africa.

I live in the USA and every year, 90% of well to do Americans travel overseas for tourism. The top list destinations are :

Mexico
Brazil
Spain
Hawaii
Bahamas
Dubai
Thailand
Vietnam
Italy...Roman empire monuments and great arts
Australia
Egypt....Pyramids
Israel...Bible monumet sites
Kenya....Safari

Sorry, very very few American tourists know about South Africa. The biggest tourist travellers in this world are the Americans and those places they visit around the world are said to be awesomely beautiful.

The world neither starts nor ends in South Africa, you SA guys need to travel out and go see that none of the seven wonders of the world is found in South Africa, I am sure the great wall of China is not situated in Cape Town

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Prove that you live in the USA

It is now central to your entire argument

So, prove that you live where you say you do.

agaugust:
No..... beauty varies by what you decide to show and publicize.

Fact that South Africa makes lots of photos of what they have and display their best tourists sites on internet does not makes other countries less beautiful. Every country is not photomaniac.

Most French tourists visit francophone West Africa.

I live in the USA and every year, 90% of well to do Americans travel overseas for tourism. The top list destinations are :

Mexico
Brazil
Spain
Hawaii
Bahamas
Dubai
Thailand
Vietnam
Italy...Roman empire monuments and great arts
Australia
Egypt....Pyramids
Israel...Bible monumet sites
Kenya....Safari

Sorry, very very few American tourists know about South Africa. The biggest tourist travellers in this world are the Americans and those places they visit around the world are said to be awesomely beautiful.

The world neither starts nor ends in South Africa, you SA guys need to travel out and go see that none of the seven wonders of the world is found in South Africa, I am sure the great wall of China is not situated in Cape Town

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o look!! no citations!!

Conclusion: Opinion

agaugust:
No need to imagine a calamity that will not happen to Nigeria. We have done nationalization before by turning British Petroleum to African petroleum, so we can just ask Globacom as our national telecoms carrier to take over MTN.....easy ride.

I see SA guys no longer boast about about eating Nigeria's $9 million, they now realize we will eat up their MTN worth say 100 times more, then we will know who is the real big loser
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Actually, the UN forced you pay BP for the nationalization
http://books.google.co/books?id=5T3NVGzBmkUC&pg=PA182&lpg=PA182&dq=nigerian+nationalization+of+british+petroleum,+repercussions&source=bl&ots=EDsVFz7xW_&sig=v5-L08odiB9chPOU8EPV4N3h_1I&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7vw3VOujB5SnuQSH-oGYAw&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=nigerian%20nationalization%20of%20british%20petroleum%2C%20repercussions&f=false

lezz:
something i must have said have bruised your little heart. Lol. You are an insecure puppet who is too shallow minded and an honour-destitute who lacks credibility to face the facts of your life.
I concoured with southafrica's infrastructre but does that make it better no way. Again it is not me but the whole bleeding world do not see southafrica as an "african" country. Black people are not given any credit about southafrica. That is why another country which has a black heritage must fill that void. And Nigeria is doing it beautifully.

If you will be bold enough and not be a lilly-livered,self-deluding swamp rat who cant look himself in the mirror, do your research and see how the world see southafrica. Little fool.

Indeed

We South Africans dont veiw ourselves as part of Africa either.

Pro-Tip: Being associated as African anything is a bid thing in Western and Eastern minds

lezz:
no. It sucks being a black south african who is bereft of heritage economic independence and identity.

You have heritage

Economic independence is more dependent on you than anyone else, unless the current government let you down by not providing a decent public school, you have no one to blame.

You have identity as a human being.

lezz:
stop patronizing0yourself lagos is africa's biggest city and cairo is next. It never ceases to baffle me how black southafrica claim the development of a country they met the way it is today. The southafrica that exists since 300 years to 1994 when blacks were asked to come down from the trees, caves and jungle is still the same south africa today. You have nothing to boast about,believe me. You never hear of an anglo-dutch bragging but black south africans who were let out onto civilisation just yesterday keep ranting. so the world seem too big for you guys you keep acting as aliens on earth. Your owners afrikaans and the British settlers dont brag because they know southafrica is still a bleeding third world country.

You couldent be more wrong.

All South Africans are extremely proud of what we have acheived.

And who-did-what is irrelevant in the larger context.

Especially when you consider what has been acheived in the last 20 years in the upliftment of the poor and previously disadvanatged.

We built over 2 million free houses in 20 years... can you compare to that?

And its just one of many bragging rights we have.

And with regards to Lagos, it may be africa's biggest... but that is all

and btw, the Johannesburg Muncipality has a population of 10 million, and that is excluding the outlying areas such as Benoni, Springs etc . Its so big that cities have swallowed other cities to form one mega-city. Its city from the Vaal River to well north of Pretoria (seperate municipality)

agaugust:
South Africa too could not build her own jet fighters or even ordinary air to air missiles to replace the weak Mirage jets France sold to you, you kept complaining of Cuba's MiG-23 air superiority throughout the war. So what makes you better?

The G-5 and G-6 artillery technology was imported and sold to South Africa by a Canadian, while the Nuclear bomb technology was imported from Israel and sold to you.

South African arms industry was built by secret b..reast feeding from oversees throughout the arms embargo. Learn to quote history
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We do build multiple missile systems, and the Cheeta variant of the Mirage we flew is superior to your current F-7's... so what does that say?

And the Cubans never had air-superiority

G5 and G6 was not sold to us, it was designed by a Canadian INSIDE of South Africa FOR a South African company

Nuclear bomb tech was not imported to us.

Maybe you should learnt quote history and actually quote it by providing citations

lezz:
come why you bad like this. I now dub you The Fact-bringer, the History-vendor and The Southafrica slayer. Your facts about SA military are all archive worthy. Some of these SA GUYS twist facts in a cunning way to claim what isnt theirs. Phew!!!

None of what he said is based on fact.

A canadian designed the G5 and G6 while inside South Africa, for a South African company. It wasnt sold to us.

Isreal didnt sell us any Nukes, only the ballistic Missiles we were building for them were based on an Isrealy Design (which we improved greatly)

And he cunning only mentions a handfull of the vast stable of products we have.

Augugbgugug is a clown and a propagandist. As has been shown over, and over and over.

lezz:
i hope you realise your country was trying to invite nigeria into bric but we turned it down. That was when our economy was about blowing yours away and your government was feeling insecure.

Now our economy is now the biggest on the continent by far. South africa has no business in bric anymore. Go ask japan what China is doing to them with their economy even though japan has more infra and wealth. It is what we will do to you. We are in the mint countries and we are a monster no african country can stop.

first, you didnt turn BRICS down

Second, we have all the buisness we want in BRICS. And BRICS is going to be invaluable in South Africa beating Nigeria to a permanent seat on the UN Security Council.

Third, MINT is a joke and does not actually exist

Fourth, you are still lagging well behind us in development, and we are still a bigger destination for investment. We are economically colonising you as we speak.

NaijaPikinGidi:
If I want to bring these South Africans to a place of soberness once and for all ... I will be putting myself at great risk with the things I'd put here. The same idiots that want to fight war all over Africa? Chei!! Person no go die with laughter for here o!! Chief Henry120 ... dis na #topShot

So you neglected to read the post which details how this mans claims were torn apart under cross examination?

Henry120:
It doesn't change the fact 85% of black south-africans live in poverty.

This has allready been proven to be false.

What is wrong with you?

Henry120:
These are the only things you're good at, building MRAPs. Wake up and smell the coffee boy, everybody builds MRAPs these days, even tiny namibia.

and missiles, drones, EW kits, world-class optics kits, submarine periscopes (in use with over 15 nations), MGLs (in use with the USMC), world class SPG's (in use with UAE) etc etc etc

We are good at building whatever we want to build

Henry120:
Thanks to P.W botha, F.W de clerk and a huge european support.

and who has been running it for the last 20 years?

And huge european support? You ever heard of the arms embargoes?

Henry120:
$521 billion is almost 2 times the size of your HIV ridden/murder capital country.

And your population is 3 times the size

You need to grow your GDP by 60% to be as wealthy as we are.

Nigeria is utterly insignificant. Confirmed by the former BRIC nations.

agaugust:
Quote where I said that.

SA just lost the chance to encourage Nigeria to buy arms from you since always ignore you and buy from Asia or Europe. South Africa is a bad businessman, Nigeria is spending billions of dollars on weapons now and you spoiled your own chances by driving away a rich customer... fools !

Nigeria does NOT need South Africa, 90% of our arms are purchased from Russia - China axis in the last 10 years.

What have we ever bought from you? MRAPS only and in very few numbers.

Tell me what weapon South Africa produces that we cannot get from Russia, India, Israel, China ? Nothing !!!!

We will swallow up your MTN and gift it free to Globacom, all you will ever do is to cry and mourn your loss
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You cannot afford what we sell.

Henry120:
South-africa is a known arms transit zone for weapons in Africa. We aren't buying arms from south-africa.

Lol

#PureDesperation

ChukwuCantDie:
Anything on Nigerian soil can be nationalized in less than 5 seconds there is nothing complicated about it... but of course a South African Zulu/Xhosa slave would know nothing about doing that because the whites still own everything in your country 20 years after the end of apartheid.

Go ahead.

Nationalize

Just ask Zimbabwe how it worked for them.

agaugust:
Yes, civilians using all the APCs, AK-47, 23mm four barrel AAA cannon, and 14.5mm double barrel HMGs captured and displayed by Nigerian military = Boko Haram

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Those to bodies you posted were un-armed

agaugust:
Old irrelevant story, forgone conclusion.

All those soldiers have been tried and sentenced to death by court martial.

60 men out of a 150,000 man army = 0.04% tiny insignificant numbers.

Nigerian army does NOT tolerate cowardice like were army union members chose which war they want or don't want to fight.....50,000 South African soldiers, a whole complete army refused to go fight Selaka rebels and save fellow Africans from the ravages of war in C.A.R allowing innocent civilians to perish.

Then your army still gave them medals of national honour for an offence that Nigerian army gives death sentence !

SANDF = BUSHMEN-ZULU HUNTERS
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Please post a citation which shows that the Military Untion refused to fight Seleka

Please augugbugug, we tire of your lies.

Henry120:
Poor serial liar. You just had to pull out a 2010 statistics out of desperation



World Bank Cuts Nigeria's Poverty Rate to 33.1%, Says North is Poorer

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22 Jul 2014


*Predicts 7.4% growth in 2014
James Emejo

The World Bank Tuesday said there had been positive economic trend as well as significant progress made towards poverty eradication in the country.

It said in its second edition of the Nigeria Economic Report (NER) which was launched in Abuja that going by the recent rebasing of the economy as well as analysis from the new General Household Surveys (GHS) conducted by the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) with the support of the Bank, new poverty estimates in 2010/2011 and 2012/2013 should be within the range of 35.2 per cent and 33.1 per cent respectively.



It stated that an analysis of a panel survey data (GHS) of 5000 households for 2010/2011 and 2012/2013 provided "evidence that consumption is likely higher than previously estimated from the HNLSS survey."


Furthermore, the new GHS analysis put rural poverty at 46.3 per cent and 44.9 per cent in 2010/2011 and 2012/2013 respectively compared to 69.1 per cent and 51.2 per cent respectively in the HNLSS 2009/2010 estimates by the NBS.

The World Bank estimates further suggested that the number of poor Nigerians remained at 58 million adding that more than half of the figure are located in the North- east or North- west.

Specifically, it noted:" Poverty rates range from 16 per cent in the South- West to 52 per cent in the North-East. While the South and North central experienced declines in the poverty rate between 2010/2011 and 2012/2013, the poverty rate increased almost unchanged in the North West."
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/...poorer/184259/

Because the world bank re-defined what they describe as poverty.

We have been over this.

agaugust:
Mild sanctions brought you to your knees in Angolan bush war.

It can happen again and cripple all your European imported jets, warships, submarines etc.

South Africa is a tiny piece of overrated Hollywood camera
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Apartheid Sanctions were no where near "mild"

They were North Korea tier

and yet they did not bring our military to its knees.... because we developed a domestic arms industry

The NSA official said Nigeria would prefer to buy armaments directly from major Western manufacturers, but that multiple trades had been vetoed by the governments involved.
“Everywhere we go to purchase arms they block us… We approached the United States to buy helicopters but they categorically said ‘no’. They said we have no pilots,” the NSA official said.
He said Nigeria would not need to go through middlemen if the United States agreed to sell to it directly.
- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/nigeria-threatens-south-africa-frozen-weapons-deal/#sthash.1epJt2Rm.dpuf

ChukwuCantDie:
I cant wait till we nationalize MTN, Shoprite and everything else they think they own.

Hahahahahahaha

There will be a shitstorm of epic proportions as every company in the world either prepares to pull out or cuts back on re-investment in their Nigerian operations.

And we dont think we own it

We know we own it

agaugust:
International laws of war allows the use of bayonets, Nigerian army knows where to target with it, simple.

Just warn SANDF men to sleep 3 rounds with their wives before they fight Nigeria army because their last fvck in Soweto will be their final fun forever.

Warning you !!!!!

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Nope.

Your men mutilated a dead body

Like savages.

They probably ate them... since nigerians are so fond of such things
http://www.csicop.org/sb/show/ritual_killing_and_pseudoscience_in_nigeria

agaugust:
You show us where the story says Boko deaths are not included because they died peacefully at age 70 years.

Dont need to.

Its pretty obvious those are civilian casualties.

agaugust:
shows Nigeria has the most disciplined army in Africa.

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The most discipline army in Africa?

Where it is well known that large numbers of men support BH?

Where human rights abuses are well catalogued

Where men mutiny?

Desert?

Refuse to return to the front?

Where corruption in your military is rife?

In the huge military operation in the north east, where Boko Haram operates, which has been in place since a state of emergency was imposed in 2013, there are complaints by army members. These soldiers have often claimed that their budgeted allowance for dangerous field duties are shaved off by commanders, leaving them with less than 50% in some cases.

After protests by some aggrieved soldiers in Maiduguri, the army spokesman attributed their complaints to the absence of a commander who was away on training. The soldiers were dismissed as mutinous, and handed to a military court. Yet, the reality is that troops endure horrific conditions – they often lack tents or sleeping bags, many must scavenge for firewood to cook and they live a destitute life – hardly the motivation or replenishment required to fight a violent and constant aggressor.
http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/poverty-matters/2014/jul/11/boko-haram-nigeria-violence-corruption-security

Your military is a indiciplined-rabble!

agaugust:
You can go write email to BBC that no single Boko Haram has died since 4 years of war.

Butt hurt....keep your d..i..c..k safe, we are slicing off enemy manhoods nowadays, just warning you
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Better yet.

Show us where it says that dead BH fighters are included in those casualty reports from TWP

Also, I see you are proud of your army behaving like savages and mutilating bodies.

agaugust:
Operational, technically and universally means military weapons and equipment that are NOT left to rotten away like it's happening in South Africa today

Q.E.D.

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which of our weapons are left to rot away?

You ever heard of the 1/3 rule?

agaugust:
Yes, the curve goes up and that's because the dead includes thousands of Boko Haram fighters killed by Nigerian army and air force. Damboa NA-NAF killed over 1,500 Bokos, Konduga killed about 2,000 Bokos, Michika over 400 books....that's about 4,000 Boko Haram fighters we killed in 2 months.....yes the death curve went up in Nigeria for this reason.

Soon there will be a curve for how many Bokos we castrate, bayonets now slicing off d..i..c..k..s.

Fight Nigeria.....lose your manhood !

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Yes i forgot... dead civilians are all "boko"

agaugust:
Oscar Pistorius and his 'birds of the same feather' would love to ask you how 'peacefully' Lucky Dube died in South Africa

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How could you think that is even a valid response?