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agaugust: Rhino poachers did
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agaugust: There was war in Angola for 26 years in your SADC region, ended in 2002, South Africa did not have the courage to send in your spineless SANDF to help Angolan government since 1994 that ANC took power.

SANDF has a reputation for avoiding big wars that need more than 4,000 soldiers

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agaugust: Are your mercenaries the ones that your army deploys, e.g. in AU, UN, SADC ?

Most country has veterans and mercenaries, Nigeria has them aplenty from ECOMOG 12 year long war.

This forum's topic is not about African mercenaries and PMCs, it is a military thread, official national military forces of countries.

South African armed forces have no new achievement in the last 20 years of cowardice and almost zero activity, that is why you people are so frustrated you start posting World War II history or private company mercenaries.
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agaugust: Based on your list above, I will show you how M.O..RO.NIC you are.

One T-72 tank today's 2014 price costs $2 million, so your $400 million peanut money will only buy the 200 units of T-72 tanks on your list.

That long list will cost you $ 1.7 Billion....M..ORO..N
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agaugust: Same old story....100% dreams....0% reality
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Henry120: Defence Review gathering dust in Parliament

Maynier points out the Review, originally known as the 2012 Defence Review because that was when it was supposed to be completed and tabled in Parliament, eventually made it to the National Assembly as the 2014 Defence Review early in July.


"The Review has been gathering dust in Parliament for nearly three months. The Joint Standing Committee on Defence must make recommendations to the Minister (Mapisa-Nqakula) on the Review."


the critical state of decline of the SA National Defence Force (SANDF)," he said.

Henry120: Patchy knows he's lying, he's also aware we know he lied, he's a sunk ship at the sea bed. He just wants to live in denial.

agaugust: North Korea is heavily industrialized but not in the league of advanced countries.

You just said 3 times in 1 day on this forum that Wikipedia is not acceptable source proof of Nigeria's cluster bombs. So you now use same Wikipedia as source to 'prove' South Africa is an 'advanced' country?

Mr.Patrick Mokopa !!!

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agaugust: North Korea is heavily industrialized but not in the league of advanced countries.

You just said 3 times in 1 day on this forum that Wikipedia is not acceptable source proof of Nigeria's cluster bombs. So you now use same Wikipedia as source to 'prove' South Africa is an 'advanced' country?

Mr.Patrick Mokopa !!!

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Henry120: It is also a very visible target for Fighter air-crafts. I don't think you'll be able to respond when this system is done with you (the enemy).

The idea behind this system is to totally overwhelm the enemy. I do not believe the enemy can respond after from his position after this.

agaugust: Why do employers pay experienced workers more than those with no experince?
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agaugust: The second Mokopa source said it was NEVER ORDERED so how did it enter service ?

#Self-Trap
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Henry120: Very very very impressive. What company owns this MRLS? The Russians popularised this system in world war II. Impressive piece.

Henry120: Fraudster.

agaugust: s.

South Africa is NOT a developed country. Shuut Up and don't derail this thread. You don't know how unions work n advanced nations
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agaugust: [size=14pt] Why are you South Africans obsessed about where I live and where I work? That information won't equip your UNDEDICATED Rooivalk with Mokopa missiles [/size]

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Henry120: You keep dodging and dodging, Are you sure you aren't a South-African politician?


You know what the question is, Just answer it and stop dodging.

Again, you claimed the Makopa missile is in active service with your Armed forces, do you stand by this comment, despite IHS janes stating unequivocally you(SANDF) has no makopa missiles in their arsenal?


Answer this simple question.

agaugust: You can travel to North East zone and find out by staying under Alpha Jets releasing bombs so you can prove if it includes cluster bombs too....just write your Property Sharing Will before you go becasue you won't be alive to write the bombing story after you witnessed it
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Henry120: Which means you were lying to us.

agaugust: Your above comment admits I showed first source that says we have them and second source that says we used them.

Third source will have to say Mr.Patrick Mokopa got b.lown to 77 pieces by Nigerian cluster bombs....because that's the only thing remaining to do

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Henry120: errm patchy the pirate, when you made the comment SANDF has all the money and can afford everything, you didn't quote any source.

Again, you have claimed on many occasions IHS janes is the most trusted source, are we now not to accept IHS janes as a source?



While the Rooivalk is now operational, it still lacks the 10,000 m-range Mokopa laser-guided missile expressly designed for it by Denel Dynamics because there is[b] no funding to buy the weapon.[/b]

Henry120: "The original intention had been to build 36 Rooivalks for the SAAF, but that was cut to just 12 when defence funding was slashed after 1990."

agaugust: Certainly the single least experienced formation in Africa at the moment
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agaugust: SANDF should defeat Rhino Poachers in Kruger park first, then after that you go to Bangui for rematch with Seleka rebels. If you succeeded in getting your army's Gecko vehicles back and use it to carry the dead body of Warlords Harkouma and Djotodia to @THIZA's photography studio for Hollywood show on Nairaland, then come talk to us about what SANDF plans to do with African Islamic terrorists.

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Henry120: You've been saying it is in service, but according to IHS janes, they aren't in SANDF service.

So is IHS janes telling us lies?

Henry120: Not my words. I'm quoting sources, attack them, not me.

Henry120: MikeZA, but you said SANDF has Makopa missiles in active service, so what's happening with all the reports stating you're too broke to afford them. So does this mean, you and "patchy the pirate" have been lying all along?

Henry120: "Patchy the pirate" . Not my words, that's what your fellow south-african calls you.

You said South-Africa is soo rich and can afford whatever you like,

How come we keep reading from multiple sources that SANDF is too broke to buy avaition fuel, too broke to pay staff, too broke to buy mapoka missiles, too broke to fund anything


Does this mean, you were lying to us?

agaugust: Argue all you want Mr.Patrick Mokopa, I don't care, I have posted sources and it's enough proof.

NAF has cluster bombs, I did not say only Beluga type. No arms sales log records any country's cluster bombs. Every country can stock whatever clusters it wants. Nigeria has them, how many types is not revealed. Fact remains we have them

Nigeria is NOT France, my first source says Nigeria still HAS and HAS stockpiles of cluster bombs, and did not say only Beluga.

NAF Cluster Bomb is NOT SAAF Mokopa The Fake

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agaugust: South African authorities back up the Minister claims, your SAAF chief is only doing damage control to a leaked defense secret.

"March 13/13: Fighters. Opposition Democratic Alliance MP David Maynier recently forced the ANC government to acknowledge that 12 of its 26 delivered JAS-39C/D fighters were in long term storage. In reality, the SAAF’s fighter problem is even worse than that. He sums up the situation this way:

"The sad facts of the Gripen system are as follows: 26 Gripen fighter jets were delivered; 10 or fewer are operational; 12 are in long-term storage; there are six qualified pilots; there are about 150 flying hours available to the entire squadron for 2013."

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/south-africa-military-maintenance-matters-010956/

#SouthAfrican Airforce Is A PaperTiger

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patches689: Post a source published after the Airforce Cheif clarified the situation before parliament and the Farlam inquiry

agaugust: Cluster bombs are NOT recorded by UN, IISS, or SIPRI, same way all unguided bombs sales are not recorded or reported in any arms log.

All the other countries on the list like Ethiopia and Eritrea, show me SIPRI record of their purchase of cluster bombs !

If Nigeria has no cluster bombs, then the whole world too does not have it. Simple.

I posted two sources that say Nigeria has cluster bombs, Wikepedia you refused to accept, and I gave you an authority that records combat use of cluster bombs around the world in modern times, and Nigeria is recorded to have it and use it. That is a source respectable and reliable, it is a British website and declares that Nigeria has British Beluga Cluster bombs.

There is NOTHING you can do about it, Nigeria has cluster bombs !

Be angry about the obituary and burial of your still-born dead Mokopa Missiles....Rooivalk is a toothless 'dedicated' attack helicopter


NAF Alpha Jets pilots have consistent 24 years of air to ground bombing experience all over West Africa in five different wars.

12 units of NAF Alpha jets flying at 12km altitude above sea leavel are all beyond reach of your 10km maximum altitude of Valour Frigate Umhkonto anti-aircraft missiles, so we cluster plaster your Navy in Gulf of Guinea with cluster bombs showering thousand of Bomblets pouring down like rain all over your navy, spread over your warships like a wide 10 km sq area blanket of death landingand e.xploding on your own ammunition on ship deck....Umkhonto missile vials, and Exocet missile launcher tubes until your own missiles begin to explode and b.low up your own warships in the Gulf of Guinea and sink all Valour ships to sea bottom....Welcome to the Lion's den, Nigeria rules there !!!

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