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rawswag:
wat weapon is d dude sitting on d rear of d hilux holding?

RPG with a frag round in

MikeCZA:
Advanced stuff like MANPADS, anti-tank weapons etc were brought back to SA.

Some are still used while some are preserved.

Well, we use the RPG Bazalt as standard in the infantry

And we never purchased them or built them... so that must be where they came from.

The stories that those RPG's would tell if they could talk...

MikeCZA:
Done deal?
SAAB SIGNS CONTRACT WITH BRAZIL ON WEAPON ACQUISITION FOR GRIPEN NG
http://saabgroup.com/media/news-press/news/2015-04/saab-signs-contract-with-brazil-on-weapon-acquisition-for-gripen-ng/

Either way: So what?

Its not like the Brazil sale would be a major cash-cow for Denel

lionel4power:
IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE FOR OUR SA CHAPS.
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A-Darter short-range (AAM) in trouble as Brazilian may be pulling out of the project



Rapid Fire | Thursday, April 21, 2016


A joint South African and Brazilian development of the 5th generation A- Darter infrared short-range air-to-air missile (AAM) is in trouble, as the latter may be pulling out of the project. Despite development work already being done on the missile, only South Africa has put in a production order, with Brazil citing financial troubles to be able to further integrate the
missile on the JAS 39 Gripen E fighter. South Africa has signed commitments to order the missile for the next five years, while Brazil is looking at existing missiles that are cleared for carriage on the latest
variant of the JAS 39.

Why do you post this as though its a problem?

We still get the missile

ViceAdmiral:
Was it not handed to UNITA?
@Gottfried when is the Okahandja museum opening? you know to us Civvies....

Good point!!

lionel4power:
IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE FOR OUR SA CHAPS.
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A-Darter short-range (AAM) in trouble as Brazilian may be pulling out of the project



Rapid Fire | Thursday, April 21, 2016


A joint South African and Brazilian development of the 5th generation A- Darter infrared short-range air-to-air missile (AAM) is in trouble, as the latter may be pulling out of the project. Despite development work already being done on the missile, only South Africa has put in a production order, with Brazil citing financial troubles to be able to further integrate the
missile on the JAS 39 Gripen E fighter. South Africa has signed commitments to order the missile for the next five years, while Brazil is looking at existing missiles that are cleared for carriage on the latest
variant of the JAS 39.

LOL

Thanks for the free money brazil!!



Seriously though... this is not a problem.

ViceAdmiral:
Green Air Force side caps? Shouldn't they be blue?

Lol - are they honestly showing off captured SADF equipment?

I feel as though I need show what we got our hands on

Pic 3 is equipment captured by the SADF and SWATF during Op Protea alone

What puzzles me is what we did with all of this equipment...

iblawi:
Henry why are you frustrating patches na?

Patches you seems to have calmed down why? Or are you frustrated?

Im having fun

Henry is in a corner and he knows it.

Him refusing to answer a simple question and his inability to defend himself is hilarious.

He is not a clever man

Henry240:
When was this?

So you are now denying we were ever ranked above you?

Answer the question: If GFP is a "highly relevant source" why did you argue when we were ranked above you?

Yet again we see you following your usual rout when on the losing end of an argument

South African Police Service reforms training regeim - 8 000 new officers to be inducted by years end
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=43180:shorter-more-intense-training-for-police-recruits&catid=49:National%20Security&Itemid=115

pacretus:
hehehe..very good question..oga henry but u don already rid d guyman mind na.lol

No, henry knows that I have him in a corner so he is behaving like a clown

Henry240:
When you were what?

lol, pathetic delaying tactics, the question was simple:

Patchesagain:
So why then were you arguing Nigeria was stronger than RSA when we were ranked above you?

Henry240:
Are you ranked above us?

why did you continue to argue when we were?

Henry240:
It has always been a reputable source you nitwit.

So why then were you arguing Nigeria was stronger than RSA when we were ranked above you?

Tinfoil:
2016 amisom ambush videos available to anyone on request by PM

send them to me

Henry240:
Was it ever disputed?


..... I mean who were you planning on been ranked above with 5 Gripen pilots?

Yes, by you and agustine

Where should you be ranked with only 7 operational planes in your whole airforce??

Henry240:
Can you please quote where i said the list is irrelevant? Provide evidence!


7 more platforms higher than you. So Patches bon-bo-clat how's 5th position from down there?


LMFAO!

Consult the archives

5 Gripen + 3 Rooivalk = 8

lol, beaten without me even trying

gottfried21:
What happened to the guys in the Parnard?

They got f_cked up

Rhodesian engineers discovered that, despite what Panhard says, the vehicle is not resistant to 7.62 at under 50m - even frontally

What shocked me is that when KDF pulled out of other exposed FOBs in the aftermath, the abandoned a WZ which AS was then parading around

Anyway, I think Isreal wins the "base building" competition

(i added the writing on the sign)

africaken254:
who much would it cost to build a hesco bastion perimeter wall then ?i am not talking about the air conditioned tents, the generator ,the fuel dump e.t.c

Exactly,

American bases are expensive because they bring all the luxuries of life into their bases... including KFC and Burger King

Basic earth fortifications are cheap

Pic: SADF fortification in Nam

Henry240:
Let's me not even try to be delusional, the Nigerian military cannot build outpost that look like that.


The Nigerian solution to out post defence has been to first construct trenches round the bases. Build 4 Sentry positions, add sand bags, deploy 2 soldiers each, taking 2 hours turns.

First off, you are guessing the price

Second off, hesco barriers cost $1 dollar a unit, so you can get 1000 for $1000 which gives you 5km of hesco wall

Third off, a second hand mini digger goes (according to google) for 18 000 Pound Sterling
http://www.mascus.co.uk/construction/used-mini-diggers-excavators-7

So, for an investment of $19 000 you get 5km of hesco and a machine to quickly load them. But, that is only the initial capital investment, in real terms you are looking at $1000-$2000 per FOB or patrol house as you can move your diggers from one place to the next.

Henry240:
Look at those photos posted by Africaken, that outpost would set any army nothing lower than $15 million to construct.


Are African militaries going to sh1t out the money to purchase that?

100 sets of hesco barrier cost $100
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/hesco-barriers-price.html

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gottfried21:
Where can I watch the attack on the Kenyan Outpost?

the internet

Give me a sec, i will find it

Henry240:
I suppose you mean it isn't cost effective. Where would militaries in Africa get the money to finance outposts like that. That particular US military outpost cost nothing short of $15 - 20 million to construct.



It is great, but where would the money come from, are we going to sh1t $20 million for every El adde and Doron-Baga. When we are done building at this cost, would we then kneel down, pray to God to give us money for Ammo, equipment and APC because we have invested all our money in building 4 outposts?




What we should do is to develop cost effective military solutions to our monumental problems, just as the Russians did in Syria and not to fight wars like the US or it's NATO allies, who even by the way do not even have the money to fund their militaries like the U.S. The U.S contributes 73% of all NATO funding.

Hesco barriers, sandbags and earth movers arent THAT expensive

If worst comes to worst you get out your spade and dig into the ground.. sweat and dirt are free

If you have a rope and a chainsaw you can clear foliage.

Henry240:
I suppose you mean it isn't cost effective. Where would militaries in Africa get the money to finance outposts like that. That particular US military outpost cost nothing short of $15 - 20 million to construct.



It is great, but where would the money come from, are we going to sh1t $20 million for every El adde and Doron-Baga. When we are done building at this cost, would we then kneel down, pray to God to give us money for Ammo, equipment and APC because we have invested all our money in building 4 outposts?




What we should do is to develop cost effective military solutions to our monumental problems, just as the Russians did in Syria and not to fight wars like the US or it's NATO allies, who even by the way do not even have the money to fund their militaries like the U.S. The U.S contributes 73% of all NATO funding.

Hesco barriers, sandbags and earth movers arent THAT expensive

If you have a rope and a chainsaw you can clear foliage.

africaken254:
amnesia at this tender age

I fail to see how majority rule relates to South African military strength in anything other than making it stronger

africaken254:
so what was the reason for the big party you held in 1994 ?

What is the reason for you asking me off topic and irrelevant questions?

kikuyu1:
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/169264-why-nigerian-military-has-difficulty-getting-arms-from-america-u-s-govt.html

To be honest it doesn't specify gunships but it was allegedly for human rights abuses. Despite the El Adde disaster it wasn't a failure of equipment,personnel or training;imo it was intel. Once that half ton BVBIED levelled the TOC and the mortar pos the coy was lost since all the officers and NCOs were KIA . AT THAT POINT ALL THE MIG 29s/F 15s/Su 35s EVEN GRIPS,GODDAMMIT WOULDN'T HAVE SAVED THE SURVIVORS! Incidentally the few survivors were from an overwatching section. Trust me the aircav Z9s and MD 500s along with the KAF F5s are adequate for Somalia. I get the impression you imagine the US has a secret deux a machina. You don't need AC 130S and or Apaches for this kind of fight.

I saw the video of the base attack

Most of the base seemed unaffected after the VBID attack, there were at least 2 Panhard AML's and one WZ still running around during the battle, with the inner defences still intact.

It was simply a question of a poorly constructed base and poor intelligence (they should have had OP's out) and perhaps a lack of certain fundamental drills (dawn/dusk stand-to) and no fire support. But that is just guess work from me watching a one-sided propaganda video

But yes I agree, in the 15-20 min it would have taken air-support to arrive the AS fighters would have been inside the base allready.

Obviously having a huge VBID go off will cause massive confusion at first, but if everyone knows where to go it shouldent be a problem for more than 10min. But, on the otherhand, I think it was Napoleon who said that a battle can be lost in a single minute.

But I know that the Kenyan MOD will scrutinize the video and makes the necessary changes

Henry240:
DENEL is Africa's most advanced and largest defence company. They certainly do have a significantly better Defence industry than Nigeria.


They are technically still at war with Eriteria, so in essence they have an operationally ready force than both Nigeria or South-Africa.

They can deploy more equipment than Nigeria or South-Africa.

They have much larger armies than Nigeria or South-Africa. Manpower significance.

Low tech armies though.

Henry240:
All your rantings haven't moved you from 5th place in Africa. Hopeless loser with 5 Gripen pilots.

lol - 6 months ago you claimed the rankings were "irrelevant" now you quote them? hahaha, desperate

Hopless loser with only 7 operational platforms in your airforce

africaken254:
i thought you got your independence in 1994 !

South Africa got its independence in 1910

UDF = SADF = SANDF

I think its sad that you are so obsessed with arguing that you have to make such petulant statements.

So, you asked what we have done - consider yourself told