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Henry240:
Without a doubt, we have the largest operational fleet in Sub-Saharan Africa.

List your vessels

Henry240:
So tell us how?



This is as 'advanced' it gets in the SANDF,

Old white men using analog equipment on an 82 years old world war II aircraft.

So you can't see the other panels?

andrewza:
3 o that missile launcher israle kept secret for years. Thats not a tank

All part of the fun

andrewza:
Dont know. Black eagle?

Arjun

Merkva

M48 patton.

Ill give you a clue:

1. T72 plus something eastern European

2. T72 + curry

3. The gun is fake... why would a tank have a fake gun?

4. Think watches and chocolate

Henry240:
You Fvckers should stop derailing this thread with your irrelevant top 10's and off-topic postings. Every Top 10 has to be Africa centered...... Any other Top 10, you create a thread for that. I'll be forced to call in the mods to deal with blatant off-topic posting.

calm down

its the christmass/new year period so there isnt much news coming out

So because it is slow we are messing about and keeping the thread alive.

But fine... if you insist

andrewza:
Dont know. Black eagle?

Arjun

Merkva

M48 patton.

No to all of the above

[size=15pt]Name the tank win a prize![/size]

No cheating (you untrustworthy peasants )

Some are easy... but there are two that will prove challenging

andrewza:
Testing systems that are either new, had maintenance done or been replaced. Training. Working up for deployment witch intals traing and testing the frigate in the bay now is going to india so is busy preparing gor that.


Jan and Dec are festive seasons so they dont go to far away. Got to give people a break.

Well i noticed that one of the subs is missing.

The old Daphne Class is on the slips, two Heroine are in the water and the third is unaccounted for.

Hey Mike


I noticed that during Dec and Jan the Frigates and Opvs that are still in Port tend to sometime just sail out into false bay for a couple of hours and then sail back

I have been in here during other periods of the year and if a ship leaves port then it sails out to sea and dissapears

Wtf are they doing? Just testing out systems and making sure everything still works?

*there is currently a valour class dicking about in false bay*

jln115:
F-4!! Great fighter, first aircraft to use guided air to air missiles in combat!!

But my list was of the most beautiful fighters in service... the F4 might make my top 10 ugliest!!

Ugly?!?!

How dare You!!

Next thing you will be telling me the Draaken is not the sexyest thing ever!!

All these aircraft posts and no single one has posted the greatest Strike Fighter ever??

agaugust:
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[size=13pt]Largest navy fleet in sub saharan Africa. [/size]

Local refit puts two mine sweepers back in service. Four fast attack guided missile crafts currently undergoing local refit by naval dockyard itself.

Expect Aradu refit this year.

Navy orders about 100 new patrol IPV and MPV, everyday is Nigerian navy project Biro reality.

Over 100 vessels curently deployed in operational patrols.

Nigerian navy, most active in Africa !
http://thenationonlineng.net/why-nigeria-must-equip-her-navy/

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This guy gets more desperate every day

jln115:
Firstly Welcome to the thread bro!!

Anyway back to the above...Egypt on paper have the most powerful military in Africa, there's no African country that can match the quantity and for the most part quality of the Egyptian Defence Force!!

BUT!! With a Defence budget that was till last year less than both South Africa's and Nigeria's one has to ask how they still have funds left for training and maintainenc after an absolutely massive capital spree!!

Just to give an example SAAF has about 10-14 Gripen operational at any given time, which is about half of the total fleet, the German Luftwaffe for example has only 40 odd Eurofighters operational out of 120 Aircraft with.more than 35 in long term storage and 38 Tornados operational out of 89 aircraft(all of a sudden SAAF doesn't look to bad does it ?).

Now if you look at Egypt they have over 400 Fighter aircraft in service, that's double the amount of fighters than the Luftwaffe, yet they have a budget 1/5th of the German Airforce, now the question is, how do they maintain a fleet that size? The fact is its simply impossible, I can't imagine Egypt have more than 50 fighters operational at any given time....same goes with their Navy and Army, so much Equipment with such a small budget!!

If theres one force that's doing everything thing right its the Algerians, they have the largest Defence budget in Africa and unlike Egypt they are buying the need to haves NOT the nice to haves.

Epic post is epic

agaugust:
Many smart countries have evaluated and refused to buy the Gripen, they realize the jet is all cosmetic facial make up beauty on the outside but empty combat capability on the inside. Most countries realize the Gripen C is not worth the $ 60 million price tag. Apart from South Africa and Thailand, no other country outside Sweden the manufacturer, has bought the Gripen in 20 years of SAAB marketing and all the overrated specs.

Who will pay $ 60 million like a fool to buy a Gripen that has obsolete 20 year old pulse doppler radar, no IRST, airframe built to last 50 years are breaking into pieces in Hungarian air force Gripen fleet withing 8 years, Gripen has had 11 crashes/accidents within 3 countries.

Only 40 Gripen C jets have been export sold-outright in 20 years, about 30 countries have done serious evaluations and refused to buy it.

No wonder it took 10 years global marketing and multi-million dollar bribe to get the first Gripen export sale to South Africa.

Nigeria should NEVER buy such aircraft for $ 60 million per unit ! Tell me what is inside that Gripen C that makes it great and worth that much?

The Gripen is only respected by the majority of people because they are ignorant, the look at it's outward beauty and the fact that a great European white country that makes Volvo cars, built the Gripen. The Indians and 30 other countries that evaluated the Gripen refused to be fooled and refused to buy it
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Tell that to Brazil - they just paid $100 Mil a pop for the NG
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-12-18/brazil-will-decide-today-on-4-billion-jet-fighter-contract

And the Gripen has failed only 7 bids - not 30!!! And most of the time it was beaten by the Typhoon, F35 or Rafael

And over 70 Gripen have been exported... Not 40

Stop being so assblasted, it's boring

Edit: I was just reading beegs blog and I saw how you got slaughtered in the forums when the old JF-17 v Gripes Argument came up.... Now understand why you are so emotional

iblawi:
On the 26 Gripens and others

http://allafrica.com/stories/201512301336.html

https://www.enca.com/south-africa/zuma-receives-final-report-arms-deal

I have read most of the testimony delivered in the arms deal.

Nothing serious will come up.

kikuyu1:
IIRC,this is why the KAF said no the Grip when offered in 2008. Tactically speaking all the shortcomings compared to the Sue make it too defensive minded.
-Single engine
-short range
-combat radar short sighted

Its obvious! Just don't tell the S Africans!

1. Su-30 is massively expensive to operate, costing around $7000 per flight hour (Grip is ~$3000), newer models of Su30 can cost upwards of $14000 per hour

2. Single engine = less maintenance, therefore lower operating costs and less demand for new parts. Then you take into account that Russian engines arent very good....
- Su30's have serious engine problems, just look at India, they struggle to maintain 50% operationability for their Su30's (their target is ~70%)
- India has recorded no less than 69 engine failures since 2012 and recorded a wopping 35 technical failures in a one year period.

3. Yes, but due to the low RCS of the Gripen it means that it can take on and defeat Su30MKI's in BVR combat
http://www.africandefence.net/angolas-su-30ks-are-not-a-serious-threat-to-the-south-african-air-force/

agaugust:
PROVE IT....LIAR !!!

PROVE THEY DIDNT... LIAR!!!

agaugust:
Yes, the difference is that AS AT TODAY TANZANIAN GENERAL STILL LEADS SANDF TROOPS INTO BATTLE.

See your shame, UN appoints Tanzanian army general to lead the only UN Force meant for combat in Congo, FIB. The MONUSCO troops were there yet UN still formed the FIB to do the fighting, and that is where UN refuses to allow a South African general to lead due to your legendary combat incompetence and C.A.R. Bangui cowardice.

So UN has put a South African general in charge of administration NOT combat, he commands the administrative work of MONUSCO, he leads NOBODY into real battle YOUR SANDF GENERAL WILL BE SUPERVISING CIVILIAN ELECTIONS, Tanzanian army general does the war job because they are trusted by UN to be reliable.

Why did UN not give SANDF the FIB leadership job to command combat troops? Reason is SANDF is not good enough to lead combat ops.
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So the general who commands 20000 men is not the commander?

Romsey is not the great battlefield commander we thought he is?

Wow, Augustus has reached new levels of desperation

agaugust:
Show us proof that the MRAP occupants survived, prove it. SA makes bad MRAPs. Poor standard and overpriced South African products.

Prove your accusations first

africaken:
Equatorial Guinea plans to buy BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles from Russia - manufacturer

Bmp_3 is a quality vehicle

That's a good buy

Henry240:
the country is relatively peaceful. No faith in the SANDF to perform under pressure.

FROM THE SECOND OF DECEMBER (THIS MONTH)

The attacks by the SANDF late yesterday were carried out despite the DRC government trying to forbid the UN's actions.

Reports indicate that the helicopters caused considerable damage to several of the rebels' bases‚ although exact losses of ADF personnel are unknown.

The attacks came as ADF forces were marching on several villages on the outskirts of eastern DRC town of Beni.

In the latest incident‚ ADF fighters launched a multi-pronged attack on Sunday on two of the UN’s force intervention brigade’s bases as well as a hospital in which they hacked patients to death.

A Malawian peacekeeper and 31 civilians were killed and numerous people were injured‚ including peacekeepers.

The 10-hour assault on Sunday was the first time that the brigade‚ which includes peacekeepers from South Africa‚ Tanzania and Malawi‚ had confronted the ADF.

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2015/12/02/South-African-forces-attack-Congo-rebels%E2%80%9A-sparking-possible-diplomatic-row

Henry240:
- I said I Tanzanian was selected for a leadership position before the circus clowns you call generals. Fact!


- The UN only saw it fit to appoint a South-African general when the country is relatively peaceful. No faith in the SANDF to perform under pressure.

1. No that is not what you said, and:
- The Tanzanian was selected for a SIGNIFICANTLY lower position.

Brigade (Tanzanian) < Division < Corps (Soth African)


- Combat operations are continuing as we speak.

This smacks of nothing but massive butthurt.

The UN has selected a South African for their BIGGEST Peacekeeping operation - FACT

Henry240:
How isn't he a failure?

The operation came to an end when South Africa repatriated the last troops in December 2009, leaving Burundi peaceful and on its feet after ending a civil war that had lasted for 15 years.
http://www.dod.mil.za/operations/international/op_curriculum.htm

Thats how

Henry240:
Buthhurt over your election observer

Henry.

1. You said a Tanzanian was selected first... do you have proof?

2. Has MONUSCO been created for the monitering of elections?

Henry240:
The proud face of a South-African failure!

How is it a failure?

agaugust:
For civilian election 2016 purposes, the war in Congo is over long time ago. No shots to be fired to kill by 20,000 UN troops next year, no more helicopter and artillery war, it`s peace time in Congo, it`s political elections time. Simple, please don`t over-blow simple facts that we all know, just to suit your thirst for some `glory and pride`.

Congo DRC now has peace, do not wish them war just to prove a point or glory hunting
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Look at this map, does this look like "peace"?

Just this month the UN was conducting combat operations in the DRC
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2015/12/02/South-African-forces-attack-Congo-rebels%E2%80%9A-sparking-possible-diplomatic-row

agaugust:
SANDF is commanding peace time Congo DRC elections force, not a war fighting force, or MONUSCO will be firing artillery on civilian voters?

Immbecile
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Is this your response?

Is MONUSCO created specifically for elections?

The argument you are making is beyond meaningless.

agaugust:
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He commanded peace mission in Burundi....yet there is no peace in Burundi till today....Your SANDF army general is a combat mission failure, so he has been chosen after Tanzanian army general fought and won Congo war, SANDF army general cosen to CONDUCT CIVILIAN ELECTIONS 2016 in Congo....that is the limit of South African military capability....watch over civilian elections....ordinary Police job[/s]

1. Burundi was peacefull and stabilized when we left - stop making things up.

2. MONUSCO deployment is more than for just elections

Henry240:
They considered Tanzania for a leadership position first before South-Africa = Fact.


You were handed the post out of pity.


Anyway.... Nigeria has been leading UN missions since even before you started sucking your mommy's tittes!

Nothing new here, only for feeble minds like you soweto clowns.

1. Citation needed that they considered a Tanzanian first

2. South Africa has been fighting conventional high intensity wars since before Nigeria was a country

Nothing new here, Nigerians butthurt about being turned over again

agaugust:
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LOL.....South African army general with Burundi crisis experience....the same mission where SANDF failed, that is his track record of experience of combat...LOL.....Burundi was as failure for SANDF, that country is still boiling like hotpot fire today, thanks to the failed mission of SANDF there twice.

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And yet the Burundi operation was a complete and utter success

The operation came to an end when South Africa repatriated the last troops in December 2009, leaving Burundi peaceful and on its feet after ending a civil war that had lasted for 15 years.
http://www.dod.mil.za/operations/international/op_curriculum.htm

agaugust:
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[s]Bwahahaha

Did you read that your own source from beginning to end?

LOL.....South African army general with Burundi crisis experience....the same mission where SANDF failed, that is his track record of experience of combat...LOL.....Burundi was as failure for SANDF, that country is still boiling like hotpot fire today, thanks to the failed mission of SANDF there twice.


LOL, your army general is being chosen now that the Tanzanian army general has finished the hard job of REAL WAR and given victory to UN and Congo, then a South African army general can now be called in to head a PEACE-TIME CONGO DRC for the purpose of NEXT YEAR POLITICAL ELECTIONS...

Oh my God ! Can't stop laughing....my sides in orbit, SANDF army general with experience of failure in combat is now appointed by UN mission in Congo to do the job of elections supervisor....civilian police level of assignment

United Nations just showed you the only thing your army general can do...CONDUCT PEACE-TIME CIVILIAN ELECTIONS, shame on SANDF [/s]
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1. South African is commanding the MONUSCO deployment = 20 000 men (Thats TWO DIVISIONS)

2. The Tanzanian was a commander of the FIB deplyment = 3000 men (Thats ONE BRIGADE)

I guess Augubugugug thinks the man who was placed in charge of ONE BRIGADE is more important than the man who was placed in command of SIX BRIGADEs

You are a complete and utter slowpoke, I know that a South African being chosen to lead the [size=14pt]biggest UN deployment on the planet[/size] has placed you on suicide watch, but please up your game

Henry240:
The UN considered Tanzania before South-Africa for any sort of leadership post, shows how lowly you are thought of.

They considered Tanzania for the controll of a brigade

They considered us for the controll of 2 divisions.

Indeed it shows what they think of us