₦airaland Forum

agaugust:
[s]Show proof that Algerian army is made up of conscripts. They have same policy of service as Israel, so Israeli army is a conscript army? The service rule means Algeria and Israel have a large pool of combat trained youths to mobilize in war, that gives Algeria a big advantage over South Africa that is full of idle, jobless, illiterate, dormant, lazy youths of a wasted generation. Show me proof that Algerian army is full of conscripts like nobody joins army voluntarily, show proof.

Algeria has a twice bigger standing army and a bigger population, plus more wealth and superior weapons.

South Africa will just mobilize dull brain Zulus for superior Algerian tanks, artillery, bombs, and missiles to eat for breakfast.[/s]

1. Algeria has a conscript Army. Yes, Isreal has one too
- You should know this Mr Military researcher

Fine, we will only raise a "superior brain white" army of 500 000 men

agaugust:
[s]Propaganda and assumptions.

Patriot missile is built to defeat ALL TYPES of ballistic missiles. Fact !!!

" Patriot is a long-range, all-altitude, all-weather air defence system to counter tactical ballistic missiles, cruise missiles
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/patriot/ "

Range of the Jericho is irrelevant, both countries are next door to each other.

Egypt has radars that cover the whole of Israeli airspace, a ballistic missile launch will be detected early. Israel's land mass has a very narrow territorial width and Egyptian missiles can stop the Jericho missile right on top of Israeli territory or at the border line.

Israeli land is so small and narrow, the distance from Gaza strip to Jerusalem is just about 30 km.....if Egypt intercepts the Jericho over Israel, it will explode on the head of the Israelis ! You don't know shiiit about practical use of weapons, you just google copy and paste data from free internet, you don't know battle space management and realities.

Nuclear fallout can spread over 100 km to 500 km distance you suicidal fool !
http://www.ready.gov/nuclear-blast[/s]

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1. Jericho > Scud. What is the altitude of the Patriot?

2. Nuclear fall out has been proven

agaugust:
Having better technology does not mean better combat firepower, South Africa has better defence industry technology than Algeria, yet if you go to war with Algeria, they will wipe out the entire South African nation.

If we mobilized for war we could raise a bigger army

They only manage 110 000 in their army WITH CONSCRIPTION... we had 500 000 when we had conscription, and that was only when we recruited whites.

You have made a ridiculous comparison

But you are right, Egypt had better tech all 3 times they fought Isreal... they still lost all 3 times

agaugust:
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Israel too is depending on the same Patriot missile like Egypt does. The patriot intercepted 41 out of 42 Scud missiles in Gulf war, and today it is intercepting ballistic missile in Saudi Arabia 2015

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/06/412451669/saudis-shoot-down-scud-missile-fired-by-houthi-rebels-in-yemen

Only a fool will launch nuclear missile on a next door neighbour that has Patriot anti-ballistic missile defences.

Israel fires nuclear missile, Egyptian anti-missile system intercepts it at the border, missile exploded in the air, half of radiation fallout is on top of Israel, half on Egypt, both countries dies from the same nuclear weapon.

You are a mere internet military enthusiast, that is why you don't know the tactical operation of weapons and their use in real life combat, Iwill continue to educate you free of charge my student.[/s]

Lol? You lecture me about tactical operation of weapons?

Yet you are not even referring to the correct weapons?

You think the jews will be firing ancient low altitude Scud missiles at Egypt??

"The range of the Jericho 3 also provides an extremely high impact speed for nearby targets, enabling it to avoid any Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) defenses that may develop in the immediate region."
http://missilethreat.com/missiles/jericho-123/#fnref-3809-1

And, a Nuke on Cairo will result in no fallout on Isreal
http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Henry240:
Very unlikely. The Nigerian military doesn't use American made weapons. I think it's an HK-417.

Which is an AR platform

Henry240:
Nigeria COIN,

Nigerian Army DMR.

Rifle I.D, please who can I.D the DMR?

Its an AR platform.

agaugust:
Egypt has Patriot anti-missile defences, you are not in a position to judge if they are upgraded or if they are effective, only real life combat will tell what weapons work well or not.

Egypt has the biggest defense industry in Africa and second biggest in middle east after Israel. Egypt builds its own Abram tanks locally and has missile technology to produce all types of missiles locally.

USA will not support Israel in war against Egypt, the USA is funding both countries military with cash aid. It USA makes that mistake, Egypt will return to Russia for help and the war will never end.

Egypt and Israel are major powers, only God can predict who wil win a war between two giants.

We can tell by their designation that they are not upgraded

We can tell by opinion of American officers that they will notice used effectively

Israel has one of the biggest defence industries in the world

Israel will 100% support Israel!! Are you insane?? Do you absolutely zero knowledge of American foreign policy??

agaugust:
Rafale beats F-15.

F-35 is a less capable air superiority jet than Rafale, F-35 is optimized for air to ground attack while Rafale is optimized for air to air combat. IRST defeats stealth.

We talking conventional war not nuclear. You think nations use nuclear weapons any how? Why did Britain not threaten Argentina with nuclear weapons?

Only a fool like you will use nuclear weapons against a next door neighbor, the nuclear fallout blows with the wind and radiation spreads across borders.

No, not according to Singapore trials

Rafael is multi-role not air-supriority and it can't do much fighting if it's airfields don't exist anymore

Israel has nukes, end of story

The UK was not fighting for its survival, Jews were prepared to use Nukes in Yom Kippur

3:0
Israel > egypt

agaugust:
Almost the entire Israeli air force is maintained by spare parts from America and Europe, or did Israel manufacture F-15 jet. F-16 jet, and Apache helicopter?

You are posting emotions not facts bros.

Just like almost the entire airforce of egypt is imported

Or do egyptians build F16, Rafael or Mig-35?

Do some research

Egypt < Isreal

agaugust:
Biafra war. Liberia war. Sierra Leone war. Niger Delta war. Boko Haram war.

South Africa has NEVER won any war in modern history.

Nigeria has never fought a war against a well armed modern fighting force.

Liberia/Sierra Leone were not Nigerian victories

Niger Delta war = ONGOING
Boko Haram war = ONGOING

agaugust:
[s]Compare Egyptian Type 209 submarines with those of Israel, compare Egyptian FREMM destroyer warship with ancient Israeli corvettes, compare Egyptian incoming Rafale with Israeli F-15, compare Egyptian Abrams tanks with Israeli Makerva.

All you Southie guys know nothing about Egyptian military, you all just come here to post sentiments and private opinion. I should not even be arguing with you Southies.[/s]

1. The war will be fought on land at not at sea - what major sea actions were there in the last 3 wars (which Egypt lost)

2. Rafael a sh1t, F35 coming soon and F15E Strike Eagle beat the Rafael for Singaporean trials for a new fighter. Isreal operates the F15E Strike Eagle

3. You think the M1A2SEP compares to the latest Merkava IV?

And then again, Isrealy training is superior - as is demonstrated in the last 3 wars when they defeated the Egyptians despite having INFERIOR equipment.

Now their equipment is on the same level, or better.

And - killer blow - ISREAL HAS NUCLEAR WEAPONS

agaugust:
[s]Envy....butt hurt....show us the global achievement of South African youths especially your type...coloreds and blacks

This is the two faced Nigerian youth....face of peace and face of war....we rule Africa and shake the world !

We rule the world in scrabble

https://www.naij.com/630707-nigerian-player-wins-world-scrabble-championship-in-australia.html

We rule the world in football at U-17 level

We have the best battle experienced young soldiers in Africa.

Reason why South African girls love Nigerian guys !

Show us the Zulu and Cape colony colored youths' global achievement of ruling the world in anything [/s]
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agaugust:
[s]you are the one who needs fresh lessons on military history all the time.

We have argued that topic here in detail and publicly available history proved the last war was a draw.

I am not willing to go back to that same old topic that was fully discussed here this year, I don't have a repetitive spirit of going back to same old argument like you always want to do.....seems you have a psycho issue that needs medic help[/s].

The war ended with Isreal poised to take Cairo and Damascus

How is that a draw?

slowpoke

agaugust:
I mean Egypt has total of 30,000 armoured vehicles, artillery and missile launchers combined.

Your view of the 3 wars is one sided, go google how many Israeli jet fighters Egypt shot down with air defense missiles, read why Israeli air force pilots call Egyptian SA-6 missiles the THREE FINGERS OF DEATH.

So then your statement of 30 000 is meaningless

The view of the 3 wars IS FACT.

Israel defeated not only Egypt but THE WHOLE ARAB WORLD, ON MULTIPLE FRONTS, AT THE SAME TIME - THREE TIMES

agaugust:
Cuba almost defeated South Africa so you ran to UN for peace negotiations. You still respect Cuba today, that's why that tiny island is training SAAF pilots now Cuba is your master.

When did Cuba defeat us?

Citations please

agaugust:
Citation to prove that Israelis are better trained as at this era 2015, not 1973 war era.

I have posted modern Egyptian army training and demos here, not willing to repeat old story again.

Egypt has total of about 30,000 armoured vehicles, artillery and missile launchers combined, go check SIPRI.

Israel today is Afraid of Egypt same way the Egyptians too fear them.

Does the statement even need a citation?

Videos mean nothing - cit.actions have been posted by me where a former US army Officer outlines thE terrible state of the Egyptian army

Lol - you just admitted you lied by changing your statement! No citations please!!

Why would Israel fear Egypt? Score is 3:0!!

agaugust:
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[size=13pt] Two faces of Nigerian youths....we rule Africa and the world ! [/size]
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Can't even rule Nigeria....

agaugust:
Last war was a draw, no winner. Btwn, Egypt is far better armed and trained today. I guess South Africa too can try fight Israel and know what Egypt faced. South Africa has not won any war in it's modern history.

The last one was a draw?

Are you high or simply ignorant of military history?

[size=15pt]One of the mighty Valor Class to be sent to India and China to take part in a fleet review as well as military exercises with both [/size]

you jelly? you should be

iblawi:
Bros why did you pick Egypt?

he forgot they got annihilated by Isreal 3 times in a row

lezz:
[s]I thought you went to school Patrick.

Access doesn't mean availability or quality water as your ANC government will have you believe . Here's an excerpt from a team of critics who specialise in bursting the fables told by the ANC :

[b]ACCESS TO A TAP DOES NOT MEAN ACCESS TO WATER

And there is another issue besides the number with access to “piped water”. According to Scott, the department of water works on the assumption that if people have access to a tap, they have access to water. “When we talk about piped water, we are normally referring to infrastructure and people have access to water coming out of that infrastructure,” he told Africa Check.

However, according to Oliver Ive, a water and sanitation engineer and MD of Amanz’ abantu Services, a private company involved in rural water supply and sanitation projects, “the fact that someone has a tap doesn’t mean they have clean water or access to piped water”.

“If you put a pump or a service in a village, is it still working in five years time? Government will say that they have spent the money on infrastructure and the people have access, but if you go out and physically check if those taps are delivering water, and quality water, the answer is probably no.
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We all know that the ANC is more proficient in falsifying figures than running a government. https://africacheck.org/reports/claim-that-94-of-south-aclaim-that-94-in-sa-have-access-to-safe-drinking-water-doesnt-hold-water/


Water access in Nigeria remains at 75% http://wholives.org/

For SOUTH AFRICA :

Only 27% have access to piped water on site.

while 16% use communal taps and 3% use neighbours taps.

Stats SA, who compiled the survey, said: "It is a cause for concern that 2.3% of households still had to resort to sourcing drinking water from rivers, streams and dams.”


The SAHRC's report meanwhile found that regional shortcomings tended to "mirror apartheid spatial geography".
Patrick, this means that only your white masters have drinking water. The rest of zulus are water-destitutes as tasty as wild lions in the serengati



The report found that 1.4m households had yet to be provided with sanitation services – including 12.5% of all households in the Eastern Cape. While in KZN, 14% of households have never had access to water


Almost a third of households in KZN felt their water smelled bad, compared to just 3% of Northern Cape households. When I say zulus don't have water, I mean they can't even bath properly. So the Anglo-Dutch has a water level of 95% while the rest of the country is less than 50%.


Out of the 931 water systems within the 153 municipalities audited in 2012, just 98 systems obtained Blue Drop Certification for the 2012 reporting cycle.

According to the SAHRC’s report, a key issue with access to water is the poor quality of infrastructure delivered by local governments.


http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/SAs-water-supply-how-safe-and-accessible-is-it-20140604
There you have it my boy, I just gave you a complete breakdown of your country's water distribution and quality. If you love facts like you claimed, you will own up and stop being a little greedy _bastard with no grace of honour.[/s]

World bank data > Opinion

lezz:
[s]Patrick, Patrick , the White boy enfeebled by primitive Zulus. What are you afraid of ? You lousy coward of a Muppet.

Nigerians all have piped water in their homes we are not as dry and as government dependent as Zulus and their master-cum-slaves.

I Nigeria we take water for granted. Every building is naturally expected to erect a piped water facility before it is deemed completed.

Spithbafrica is a dry country with water shedding. In fact South Africa is the world's 30th driest country with unflushable toilets and pollution.

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-06-25-water-shedding-feel-it-it-is-almost-here/


SOUTH AFRICA RUNS TO THE DANISH FOR WATER SOLUTION AND PATRICK, THE WATER-DESTITUTE IS HAVING US BELIEVE THAT SOUTH AFRICA HAS WATER

Not only does south Africa unable to provide water for a mere 50 million population, they have shamelessly cried for help to Europeans who just left power 2 decades ago
http://allafrica.com/stories/201511030259.html[/s]

Access to piped potable water % by country:
South Africa - 93%
Nigeria - 69%
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.H2O.SAFE.ZS

These are the facts

Deal with it

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africaken:
if you have a decent engineering industry you can make clones of any firearm you want

Thats not what I am disgusted by

I am disgusted by the fact that they are making MP5's out of pressed metal.

What is this? WW2?

Mold or mill dont press

bidexiii:
Motion supported!

seconded

iblawi:
I've removed the pics in order not to derail this thread further, but it's more disturbing when they pretend as if Nigerian are poorer than they are. I just wanted to show them things they claim not to know in their country. I've traveled to many states in Nigeria and I know the living standard of Nigerians is far better than that.

We arent pretending

[size=15pt]IT IS FACT [/size]

lezz:
Nope South African love to pretend they don't _shit and that their country is perfect.

Meanwhile, while the rest of Africa is growing, south Africa has been decaying for the past decade

[size=15pt]FALSE

Not only do more South Africans have access to piped water than Nigerians
Access to piped potable water % by country:
South Africa - 93%
Nigeria - 69%
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.H2O.SAFE.ZS

But this number has GROWN by 2/3 since 1994
http://www.iwaponline.com/wpt/005/0112/0050112.pdf

Not only are we better than you - but we have grown since 1994

Nigerians tell each other they are the giants of Africa, while drinking from the local pond [/size]

africaken:
sudanese soldiers

Holy sh1t is that a knock off mp5?

Totally not haram

lezz:
[s]

Oh spare you me your meaningless rants. Unemployment rate for south Africa is a whopping 25% bwahah. That means 1 in 4 South African is jobless . You see why foreigners' properties are often targets in xenophobia ? BY THE WAY NIGERIA'A UNEMPLOYMENT IS JUST 8%
Despite you insignificant population you still lack the zeal to work. Zulus are a Bunch of overgrown ANC babies with giant pampers.

http://www.biznews.com/thought-leaders/2015/07/29/sa-q2-unemployment-eases-to-25-but-63-1-of-youth-remain-jobless/

South Africa relies on tiny Lesotho to supply water as universities closed down for lack of water. https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=ahIMYwzN8JMC&pg=PA126&lpg=PA126&dq=south+Africa+turns+to+Lesotho+for+water&source=bl&ots=_wLyluZbzP&sig=4tj71DchUAc78rjKe4tA_UQYVsE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCAQ6AEwA2oVChMIr4yZooH-yAIVAc0UCh0hwAWh#v=onepage&q=south%20Africa%20turns%20to%20Lesotho%20for%20water&f=false


MORE THAN 60% OF SOUTH AFRICAN'S HAVE NO BASIC SANITATION FACILITIES. SCHOOLS MAKE USE OF PIT LATERINS.

THERE HAVE BEEN MANY INCIDENTS WHERE SCHOOL PUPILS FELL INTO LATINS AND DROWNED! !!!

http://www.mynewsroom.co.za/basic-sanitation-in-south-africa-is-a-constitutional-right/

Patrick, I shall have you e-murdered for my pleasure this weekend. And I'm counting on you to make my day.

South African children dying inside latrines! !!! SMH

I thought this is a situation for only Burundi and Somalia.


Below are pictures of rallies and demonstrations for water shortages and lack of drinking water in south Africa .

Bloody village Zulu white man. [/s]

[size=13pt]lol this guy thinks his opinion trumps facts?

South Africa has more unemployed - yet the Average household income is higher!!
But, lets look at poverty % by country:
South Africa - 16%
Nigeria - 53%
http://povertydata.worldbank.org/poverty/region/SSA

You say more than 60% of South Africans have no basic sanitation facilities?
Facts say otherwise:
Percentage of the population with acess to "improved" sanitation facilities (flushing toilets)
Nigeria: 29%
South Africa: 66%
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.STA.ACSN

You say we strike over acess to piped water? Lets look at the facts:
Access to piped potable water % by country:
South Africa - 93%
Nigeria - 69%
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.H2O.SAFE.ZS

South Africans earn more money, can actually sh1t in a toilet, and have better access to running water and are less likely to live in poverty - FACT

Yet again, you continue to grow pale in our shadow.

This is too easy, troll all you want boy - I have an arsenal of facts and every statement you make gives me the justification I need to paint the picture of just how pathetic your country is by comparison [/size]

[size=15pt]Fact of the day:

Household consumption of consumer goods, national averages in USD

South Africa: $3,972
Nigeria: $702
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.CON.PRVT.PC.KD

Yet again - Nigeria is not even in South Africas shadow, they are in the shadow of BOLIVIA ($874), LESOTHO ($995) and CAMEROON ($761)

They call themselves the Giants of Africa, yet they live in mud huts and are dressed as paupers [/size]

lezz:
[s]Oh Patrick, save yourself further humiliation and troubles.

South Africa is the most unequal country in the world because the vast number of Zulus are unemployable and are being paid peanuts. The average working black south African get 4,000 dollars annually. That's a fact. If it were any different there would have been no need for BEE , neither would south Africa be called the most unequal country in Africa and the world.
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https://africacheck.org/reports/race-poverty-and-inequality-black-first-land-first-claims-fact-checked/

[size=15pt]False.[/size]

Facts are this:

Average income of a BLACK family in South Africa: $8000
Average income of a Nigerian family: $6000
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/12/06/chart-of-the-week-how-south-africa-changed-and-didnt-over-mandelas-lifetime/ http://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/nigerias-middle-class-how-we-live-and-what-we-want-from-life/

Inequality is irrelevant - even in our unequal society "unemployable zulus who get peanuts" earn 25% more than Nigerians.

Yet again, Nigerians are in our shadow

lezz:
[s]Zulus are so melodramatic! !! What marries your "iphone" to the point under context?

You're trying to tell us your using an iPhone or what?
Zulus and insecurity. I feel genuine pity for you.

4 centuries of apartheid has rendered you into a self-doubting man who needs an electronic gadget to gauge his worth. SMH.


Now to the point, the second picture you posted is from your own country. I have posted it yesterday. And I have got more for you from south Africa [/s]

[size=15pt]Percentage of the population with acess to "improved" sanitation facilities (flushing toilets)
Nigeria: 29%
South Africa: 66%
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.STA.ACSN

In this topic - you arent in our shadow, you are under the shadow of countries like AFGHANISTAN (32%) and ZIMBABWE (37%)

They call themselves the giants of Africa while they sh1t in bushes [/size]