₦airaland Forum

Henry120:
Stop the habit of striking off comments, or I'll probably stop quoting you entirely.

It smacks of a low self-esteem.

agaugust:
Your police go to war where armies fight? SA police surrendered to Zimbabwean guma guma gangs of armed robbers in your own homeland.

I agree with you, lets not talk about dead or retired old men apartheid recces because they are bygone history, old relics of a forgotten boer white-man's colonial era

agaugust:
[s]The old recces trained nobody for today, those white apartheid murderers where flushed out by Mandela 21 years ago to give way to new black boys from Soweto slums, jobless, hungry and half illiterate. Your new bunch are all ZERO experienced rookies who fled from Seleka in Bangui without firing one single bullet.[/s]

agaugust:
Stop the habit of striking out or strikingthrough other people's comments, let the world read what you are replying to and behave like an adult, or you have inferiority complex when you read what Nigerian's write?

1. HALO jump is an old ancient basic parachute jump you dunce, even a Ghanaian paratroop can do it.

2. Deploy from submarines to attack targets how many miles away? Walk through enemy territory how many miles? How many SF battle theaters have ocean deep enough for submarine insertion? How does coming out of a submarine make an SF fight better than the one dropped by stealth speed boat like a Nigerian X-38 combat catamaran? Any submarine insertion done by SF around the world in the last 20 years? Like your submarine deploys SF inside Arabian desert or Congolese jungle, or land locked C.A.R Bangui with no ocean access or coastline? Fool.

3. Citation for SF foot insertions? Like how, they don't travel on foot or what? Who has details of any SF operation, usually secret though.

4. VBL beats Hornet, VBL is fully amphibious and all round armour protection. Hornet cannot swim and is open on all sides for Boko Haram to use AK-47 rifle to kill off all Southie SF troops one by one from long distance away, not to talk of a GPMG machine gun fire 1 km away wasting all your special forces like mosquitoes.

5. Shekau I is different from II and III, yes we killed I by SF insertion into Sambisa forest.

6. SA-7 Strela MANPAD has 4.5 km altitude, it will kill a 2km altitude helicopter you dunce!

Starstreak is piece of crap with max 1 km altitiude.

7. RPG HEAT kills tanks at good range, SF skill can do that. Mostly, SF are not meant to fight against tanks, they are mobile, light, quick action and quick extraction forces or covert and undetected if deployed for long tour in area of ops. By the time enemy tanks are seeing your SF, their mission is getting busted and wasted, they have lost cover and cover blown off means enemy troops reinforcement, getting outnumbered, getting killed .

Milan is heavy and needs two men to operate even if they can carry about, a burden for SF who wants to be light and mobile without vehicle in a bush, forest, or clustered urban terrain where foot work is essential for operation. Fire one Milan, enemy locates you, try run away, must abandon missile launcher, no time to dismantle and carry pieces, the man with RPG HEAT operates it alone and can flee after launch with ease, his RPG is light for one man and carried like a rifle. SF are not specialty tank killers.

8. SANDF Brigadier denied the sniper record kill and has killed the fake story, CASE CLOSED by your own army HQ.

9. [s]Current South African special forces have ZERO battle experience, the whole world passes so called skill down to new recruits, yet every man must fight his own war and prove himself, until blood and bullets begin to flow in battle we don't know who is going to run away. Lat time I checked, South African special forces did not fire one bullet against Seleka rebels, they ran to French army base to hide in the airport, they ran faster than even the SANDF parabats, your SF of today was a FAILURE ON THE DAY OF TEST AND BATTLE in Bangui.[/s]

10. SA is now past history and bygone story when it comes to. special forces, dead old apartheid recces won't fight for you today 2015.

See a loaded VBL when fully armed...and amphibious too

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agaugust:
How does that make a Soweto recruited special forces man face a US Navy SEAL in combat today?

agaugust:
Yes, because your old apartheid recces are all dead and gone to the grave, or simply sick old retired and on wheel chair.

agaugust:
[s]Every standard army in this world has special forces, called SF or commandoes, it has existed worldwide since world war II 1940s.

That is a new additional 5,000 man special COIN force trained in Russia/Pakistan 2014.

Nigerian navy SBS was established around 2006.

Nigerian army SF existed as Commandoes since before Biafran war, formed by the British. Fought in Liberia war 25 years ago.

You know nothing about Naija SF history.

The 30 year old war of SADF has produced nothing but retired or dead men today, your current special forces are new rookies with no war experience in their lives, South Africa has 30 year history only on paper, but on ground today you have NO COMBAT EXPERIENCED special forces alive and active any more.

Sorry o ![/s]

agaugust:
[s]Jumping from helicopters is done even by police men in civilian riots, it's a piece of cake for any special forces even that of Cameroon.

C-130 jumps, with or without parachute? No parachute on land means death, with parachute is common drill for even paratroops of Ghana.

Picking up special forces by submarines? Even when the operation area is in the desert, city, or jungle/bush? How many submarine special forces operations are going on around the world today against ISIS or Taliban?

Nigeria has helicopter/aircraft deployable/parachute deployable light armoured fully amphibious vehicles far superior to the Hornets used by South Africa, your vehicles are open and unprotected, ours are Panhard VBL with all round armour protection and amphibious water swimming capability, your Southie special forces hornet vehicle cannot cross has ZERO full amphibious swim capability, your equipment is inferior....your SF do not even have a mini ATV in this modern world.

500 km walk, who goes around measuring how many round trips Nigerian SF have made in North East zone, you followed them around? Even BIR of Cameroon are a standard SF that are physically fit to walk all the distance they need, it's basic SF stamina training worldwide.

Nigerian SF killed Shekau I behind enemy lines, did you know many hundred kilometers they walked or combed the Sambisa forest before they found his secret stronghold?


Our SF don't need Startstreak SAM with only 1km max ceiling, foolish missile. Nigeria uses SA-7 and Blowpipe MANPAD with better max ceiling than your disappointing Starstreak that cannot reach enemy helicopter flying at 2km and shooting the brains out of South Afriacan SF men.

Milan ATGM, how easy to carry around? Most SF use RPG HEAT instead. A bulky ATGM that needs a vehicle all the time is a burden for SF who want to be light and fast, like operating inside a forest with no vehicle support.

Record sniper kill? It was denied by your SANDF army Brigadier General, your only written data source is Wikipedia that anybody can edit and post false information. Your sniper record kill is fake.

SADF Recces of old, relics of a 30 years ago war, are retired or dead.

The new South African special forces of ANC loyalists are mostly hungry blackmen recruited jobless from Soweto slums, and have ZERO war experience in their lives, you have special forces who have NEVER killed a human being in their lives, they even failed to fight Seleka, they were the first to escape to French army base at Bangui airport.

Nigeria has the most trained and battle tested, proven and effective Special forces in all of Africa today. Nobody compares to us.[/s]

gottfried21:
1.Where did they get them from?
2.How effective against airborne Aircraft?

Kenyan Honour Guard

Henry120:
[s]Why don't you begin outlining your training and equipment?


Nigerian special operations units conduct High altitude jumps into target areas in actual combat scenarios all the time. They, across all services are airborne qualified.

Last I checked, ATVs and Dirt bikes are air-deployable assets. Dummy!

A Navy sub-lt in Nigeria's SBS took a target of over 1 KM with a 600 meter kill range sniper rifle. With Anti-material rifles, shots at over 2KM most likely are nothing, when we take into account the skill of that Navy SUB-LT.

You can only brag about a kill, when it's actually a proper kill. You don't celebrate an under 400 meters kill, when the rifle has an effective 500 meters range.

Your SANDF Recce have no battlefield experience, how can we judge them based on some nut-heads imagination.

Your Recce are as inept, incompetent, poorly trained and poorly experienced as the rest of the SANDF.[/s]

Henry120:
[s]Dictatorzoo!!! The SANDF does not have an advanced seal delivery vehicle.


You cannot compare the level of training Nigerian Special forces undergo to the rudimentary training your special forces receive.

Nigerian forces are Air, Sea, Land, Swamp, Creek, Desert and underwater compliant. They are heads and shoulders the best trained and experienced soldiers on the continent.


Dictatorzoo, you cannot in one had want to claim Apartheid army achievements and on the other hand vilify the Apartheid regime as despotic and un-African.

ATGMs are nothing. Nigerian special forces have dedicated transport and assault helo assets.

Why don't you beat that?[/s]

overhypedsteve:
what we ve all being waiting for. Standardisation should be the watchword.

gottfried21:
1:55 "Hit them with the TOW
Hit them with the TOW"

Henry120:
[s] Who is better?


Who is better trained, better equipped or better experienced than Nigerian Special Forces soldiers on this continent?[/s]

agaugust:
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AFRICA'S BEST EXPERIENCED, best armed, best equipped, best trained, the special forces of Nigeria !
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MikeCZAR:
The B-1 is strategic asset and a bit huge for the task. Carries a massive punch!

What I am trying to saying is that the performance of the SU-34 in Syria will demonstrate the "importance" of having a plane of its class.

Henry120:
Africa Random

- Troops from Gabon

- Troops from Burkina-Faso

- Ethiopian MI-35p

- Ethiopian APC

denisfidha:
From one crisis to a potential bigger one. talk of jumping from a frying pan into the fire


http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2015/10/somalia-thankless-ag-says-over-maritime-boundary-row/

MikeCZAR:
The Russians are better trained and equipped.

Syria is being turned into a test and evaluation ground for Russia's new weapon systems.

The performance of the SU-34 will cause the Americans to miss the now retired F-111 Aardvark.

iblawi:
Abeg this missile is still a shock to US, everyone is comparing it to Tomahawk missile.
No 1 is even sure of the name of the Russian missile used. Could it be 3M-14 missile or RK-55?
Who knows if they still have a better cruise missile?

Daverytimes:
3M-54E1, fired from 3 Buyan-M corvettes and one Gepard class frigate.

agaugust:
Large numbers of South African troops showed high level indiscipline few weeks ago in Congo DRC by breaking military rules and were deported in shame back to your country.

agaugust:
Any report published that does not favour SANDF is written by an enemy according to your own opinion.

What then about THIZA's article saying Nigerian army is worse equipped than Boko Haram, that one is good to post here and correct info?

agaugust:
The point is that you jumped into an argument between THIZA and me, the original argument was Nigeria vs SA.

Don't jump into other people's argument and distort it, use your head.

agaugust:
"David Maynier, the shadow Minister of Defence and Military Veterans told IRIN that the South African police had "raised the white flag" on their attempt to impose border security. "

http://www.irinnews.org/report/89262/south-africa-troops-reinforcing-a-porous-and-dangerous-border

white flag = surrender .

Dummy
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agaugust:
None is wearing private clothes, Nigerian army issues many types of different clothing for various needs of soldiers in various conditions.

Out of the 300 troops, may be we see only 3 men adding colour clothing to their army camo, it's a personal thing and does not affect his mobility, he could just remove it before leaving that safe zone and put it in his bag or dump it in their Toyota truck. I have not seen any Nigerian troops wearing red clothes in combat.

agaugust:
Stop telling lies against me dude !

It was your Southie guy Patches who was repeatedly posting photos of Nigerian troops in Konduga without helmet, claiming they were in a red zone, whereas the men were marching just outside their base on a long trip to engage the enemy, so they took off their helmets where it was still safe.

I explained many times to Patches but he kept insisting that the location where even the Vice News Journalist took off his own helmet too is a red zone, who can go into danger of bullets without helmet, does that make any sense?

When you fellow Southies start a foolish argument you will not correct them at that time, buy when Nigerians hit back, you say we started it.

You liar.

agaugust:
The whole world of oil producers have falling income. Norway, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iran, Britain, all have issues. Yet Nigeria still has it's $ 30 billion cash reserve plus the special sovereign fund reserve in dollars as back up.

Learn to memorize simple information for at least 6 months kept in your head, I posted here many times repeatedly, USA refused to sell second hand Chinnook unarmed helicopters, Nigeria changed direction to Russia and we bought 18 brand new Mi-171 terminators armed transports better than the Chinnooks, all delivered and SIPRI records them.

Cobra helicopter USA refused to allow Israel sell us the second hand Cobra helos, Nigeria now bought 9 Mi-35 Hind E and dozens of armed Gazelles plus armed Eurocopter helicopters, photos have been repeatedly posted here for all to see.

We bought 4 new American version Alpha jets, photos shown here. Jane's Defence announced NAF is buying 6 Su-25 KM Frogfoot attack jets in a new deal and story web link was posted here repeatedly.

I think every South African has envy problem or medical condition of constant memory loss
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