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agaugust:
[s]No, SAAF has NO ISTAR capability, what you have is ordinary Recce.

F-7 jets carries Recce pod, does that make a jet fighter an ISTAR aircraft? No !

So NAF can call our F-7 jets ISTAR aircraft? Why did we buy ATR-42 and Beechcraft 350ER ?

SAAF Gripen carries the same Recce pod made for Jaguar jets, so NAF too cxan claim our 18 Jaguar jets are ISTAR aircraft?


"Easily integrated onto any air platform, the DJRP is a robust, lightweight, low drag structure with a combat proven pedigree on numerous aircraft types including Jaguar, Tornado, Harrier and Hawk and has been selected by the South African Air Force for Gripen"

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/nited-kingdom/defence/air-group/isr/digital-joint-reconnaissance-pod

[size=13pt]Recce pods do NOT make ISTAR aircraft, manyb jet fighters all over the world carry Recce pods and nobody is calling them ISTAR aircraft.....[/size]

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF, your toy Recce pods works on our old 1980s Jaguar jets[/s][s][/s]

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agaugust:
You have never seen such in South Africa? Yes, Nigeria showed you a mystery
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agaugust:
Gripen recce pod can only work at medium or low altitude, so enemy anti-aircraft defenses will eat all your Gripens for breakfast

APPLICATIONS

• Air tactical IMINT tasks
• Medium and low level reconnaissance
• Border Patrol, BDA, Foliage Penetration
• Support to Land Forces and SF
• Time sensitive targeting
• Suitable for all fast jet, MUAV and commercial
aircraft

https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/asset/document/DJRPc_06_12.pdf

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF
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agaugust:
Your level of tech is 66 years old, SAAF belongs to the stone age when no ELINT-ISTAR existed
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agaugust:
Something South Africa does NOT have.... ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft....ISTAR master of Africa....NAF
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agaugust:
The only battle tested data-link in Africa is Nigerian military top brass sitting in Abuja HQ, and watching live battle in Sambisa forest real-time video images and commanding/controlling a whole war hundreds of kilometers away.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/amosu-how-we-monitored-sambisa-military-operations-from-abuja/208413/

No country in Africa has ever done that in history.

Nigerian data-link works, that's the difference between us and SANDF
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agaugust:
Show us the integrated multiple computer systems console of your Super Lynx helicopter used for large scale data processing, battle space command and control......and post how many hours your helicopter will fly....after abandoning the Valour frigate....or your navy warships sail inside desert ?

Odenson , Olodo, South Africa has NO dedicated ISTAR aircraft

Your overhyped country is 66 years behind Nigeria
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agaugust:
Was Boko Haram desert war theater a maritime battle? NAF used ATR-42 to watch Boko Haram inside their bush toilet and gave their coordinates by datalink to our helicopters and artillery.

Surface search radar = ground + maritime = ATR-42 ISTAR power.

NAF is 66 years ahead of SAAF.

agaugust:
ATR-42 will do ground search radar up to 330 km, so NAF is 100 times more powerful in ISTAR role
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agaugust:
Low capacity recce
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agaugust:
Libya is a place where NATO air forces executed a SEAD before Gripen could safely do Recce, 5% of the total Recce work.....America, Britain, etc did the real job in Libya.

Gripen jet Recce pod can only work at medium/low altitude where enemy air defenses will roast it for dinner
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agaugust:
Wasting your own time, I already posted the name earlier before you today. Eat your humble pie by yourself or share it with Patches, he's always hungry.

agaugust:
Gripen CANNOT do Recce in a defended airspace.

Manufacturer specs data sheet says your freaking toy Recce pod can only work at medium to low altitude making your Gripens roasted meat for enemy air defenses
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agaugust:
Citation needed for your claim of 50 km.

Last year you said it's 300 km, I said it's 330 km....and now you cut it down to 50 km, so post citation for that 50 km radar range of ATR-42...NOW !
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agaugust:
What is the range of your Recce pods? NAF has over 300 km range ISTAR radars

What is it's max altitude since it is only a medium / low altitude equipment .....limited capability

What is the patrol endurance hours of Gripen? It was doing about 30 minutes in Libya, NAF does 7 hours.

Your Gripen is NOT ELINT capable.

What are the electronic support systems and computer network console data processing capacity ? See NAF below, show us your SAAF !

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agaugust:
Citations needed.

All the above can be done with normal radio communication, don't need data-link.

Then in 2010, SANDF datalink was in infance, so how did you use it for world cup?

Citation needed !
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agaugust:
Not all SANDF equipment is integrated, Andrewza said it's in phases and slowed down by costs/money
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agaugust:
Reason why those SAAF Gripens don't want to fly, their unqualified pilots will crash
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agaugust:
....reminder that I educated you on your own equipment you did NOT know

agaugust:
[size=13pt], NOBODY has EVER named any Gripen Recce pod for SAAF, because you have NONE
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agaugust:
Nope, Gripen jets of SAAF have NO Recce pods for ISTAR,
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agaugust:
You wan't me to educate you on Gripen radar ground search range? Say please baas

agaugust:
[size=13pt], NOBODY has EVER named any Gripen Recce pod for SAAF, because you have NONE
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agaugust:
Nope, Gripen jets of SAAF have NO Recce pods for ISTAR,
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agaugust:
Was drilling you, and you failed to provide an answer, until I educated you....Olodo
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agaugust:
Should I also educate you about Gripen ground search radar range?

Say baas, please educate Patrick the Olodo

agaugust:
Oh, I should educate you, Thales Digital Joint Reconnaissance Pod

You didn't know the name....Olodo

agaugust:
Nope, Hawks have targeting pods for guided bombs, NOT ISTAR !

Tell us the Recce pod name....no you CANNOT....because you have NONE !

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF in ISTAR
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agaugust:
[size=13pt]No ! No ! No !

What has been posted here many times is SAAF Gripen jet targeting pods for guided bombs called LIGHTENING, purchased from America, NOBODY has EVER named any Gripen Recce pod for SAAF, because you have NONE

SAAF Gripen jets = ZERO capability for ISTAR.

You CANNOT fool us here !
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agaugust:
Nope, Gripen jets of SAAF have NO Recce pods for ISTAR, all you have is targeting pods for guided bombs.

SAAF Gripen jets = ZERO capability for ISTAR

Name the Recce pods you have for Gripen, and the country that sold the Recce pods to you, tell us now !
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Henry120:
It clearly states he was un-qualified and was only selected due to BEE.

Henry120:
Link ZA, nothing to show it is operational. Provide citations proving the entire system is operational or has been used in actual service.


That Nigeria's Data link is fully integrated isn't in doubt. We have and continue to see it's operational use.

The entire program in Nigeria is called, Network Enabled Capabilities (NEC), or Network Enabled Combat Capabilities.

Henry120:
You are retarrded. So you didn't see that C2 system?

Henry120:
They actually did. The SANDF demanded payment from the dead Pilot's estate. Despite the fact that the Pilots of that ill-fated C-47 Dakota had complained about the general serviceability of the Dakota.



* truth is, i'm not even spitting them.

The comment was made by the National secretary of the South-African National Defence Union.

Henry120:
The SANDF demanded pay from the dead man. This is pathetic to be honest.

*i'm not saying this to spite South-Africa either.