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stillchris:
and our airforce sent target cordinates from ATR 42 to artillery units on ground during surveillance on boki haram positions through whatsapp?

keep decieving yourself

stillchris:
hmm!! okay. so our defence chiefs used youtubr to get live feeds from combat areas?

or our airforce wants the T-129 specifically to link through what? internet explorer?

keep decieving yourself

stillchris:
and yoh have no proof you have more than 9. so until you do, the logic stands

Argument from ignorance (Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance stands for "lack of evidence to the contrary", is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false (or vice versa).

stillchris:
and what evidence do you have to say they are more than 9 pilots in 18 aircrew

agaugust:
Your own source denies your claim, it says Sea Spray radar is for ATR-72 only !

We need to agree on radar type or else how do we argue about radar range when we both dis-agree on what radar is on the ATR-42 ?

Post for us a source to prove your claim that ATR-42 uses Sea Spray radar you FRAUDSTER !

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agaugust:
Gripen radar ground mode is 70 km according to @Milikikazi, he is correct, the estimate is 75 km, so for me to say a South African is correct, means a lot. I never even bothered to ask him for citation, I know he is correct. Google the JF-17 Thunder Vs Gripen chart and see the answer

Sea Spray radar is used ONLY by ATR-72 according to your own source, so post source for ATR-42 Radar now ! Prove your claim !
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agaugust:
Yes, SAAF was only able to fly VIP transport and then fuel finished.

agaugust:
@Milikazi has bailed you out by posting Gripen ground search radar as 70 km, I did not even ask him for citation because he was correct.

You posted a wrong citation, ATR-72 is NOT = ATR-42.

Post for us a source to prove your claim that ATR-42 uses Sea Spray radar you FRAUDSTER !
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agaugust:
[s]They are being briefed about severe fuel shortages in SAAF[/s]
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agaugust:
How dare you post citation of ATR-72 SeaSpray radar and fraudulently claim that it is ATR-42 radar ?
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agaugust:
[s]Show us the paper content of the briefing room lecture to prove it's mission flight.

Pilots get briefed in briefing room for internal disciple, advice, new rules/regs, policy matters, etc.

You know nothing about the life of pilots, I work with them[/s]
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agaugust:
NAF has more jets than SAAF

SAAF has 9 qualified Gripen pilots today. CONFIRMED
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agaugust:
9 pilots + 9 navigators = 18 Gripen crew.

Thanks
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agaugust:
What is the in-built ATR-42 data-link used for ?
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agaugust:
Henry is correct, SAAF ordered Gripen in 1999 that is 16 years ago, your pilots are supposed to be selected and begin training program from that 16 years ago, except your country and air force is a bunch of fools who don't have training plans for aircraft that they paid for.

stillchris:
bwahaadhahahahahahahaha.....


one question... do aircrew comprise of only pilots?

your comment comes off as a whining
old man.

you are yet to prove you have more than 9 Gripen pilots

agaugust:
[s]Simulator is NOT real aircraft.

Hawk and Gripen cockpits are very very different.

Speed and mechanical performance also are different.

Gripen pilots trained on Hawk as lead-in trainer, but after leaving the flying school for many years, they have NO qualifying hours to fly Hawk.

The Hawk pilots have NEVER flown a supersonic jet or have tried for a while and stopped, they are NOT qualified to fly Gripen, no hours !

Fool, this man is gonna cause air crashes by interchanging unqualified pilots[/s] o !
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agaugust:
Citation needed for the above lie
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agaugust:
[s]Your judiciary issued a court order and one man violated it, your 200,000 Southie security forces could not effect an arrest !

A slap on the face of South African court system, remember the Nigerian weapons money $15 million that your court sized, you cowards also released that money back to Nigeria out of fear. We bought MRAP and SAMIL trucks with the cash you siezed and boasted to spend for christmas, but fear of Nigeria made 50 million South Africans tremble and handover our money

South Africa fears everybody :

1. Fears Nigeria
2. Fears Seleka rebels
3. Fears Rhino Poachers
4. Fears Sudan
5. Fears everbody.....50 million cowards

Sudan too has slapped the mouth of South Africa big time..... [/s]

agaugust:
Briefing room lecture is NOT = flying hours.

Actually proves our point, SAAF Gripen pilots are always on the ground inside classroom NOT flying in the air.

Nice suicide post by Patrick....I love it
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agaugust:
Bwhahahahaha

I cannot stop laughing at South African 33% brain educational system failure.

Oh my sides This is fvcking hilarious !

@Patches failed comprehension in school like every other South African citizen, he scored 33%

See, what your own source says :

1. SeaSpray radar is appropriate to medium aircraft like ATR-42, ATR-72, AW159 or other aircraft, it does NOT say these aircraft use it !

2. It finally gave you a list of aircraft that uses Sea Spray radar and it is in service ATR-72, can't you interpret one simple paragraph ?

So your Soweto education has embarrassed you again here....oh my sides .....ricb cracking laughter

Show us a source that says ATR-42 uses Sea Spray radar ! Show us now !

#Sweating Patches Now Desperate
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Henry120:
You have 9 Pilots, and of that number only 6 are actually qualified to fly that Jet.

Henry120:
Who says you have more than 9?

agaugust:
[s]Pilot qualification is done yearly. If 8 pilots are combat qualified in 2012, they can become disqualified in 2013 if they fly less than the required number of hours for 2013.

As at today 2015, NO single SAAF Gripen pilot has enough flying hours to qualify for combat, but we do agree you have 9 pilots even though they are NOT technically combat qualified[/s]
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Henry120:
When did you sign the Gripen Contract?



It sure as hell didn't take Czech republic 16 years to raise 9 Pilots for their Gripens.

agaugust:
Show me SABC and MNET long range airborne radar, FLIR, and electronic warfare equipment
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Henry120:
Nope. You train pilots before deliveries commence dummy.


16 years = 9 Pilots for 26 Planes, Shame!


With dunder-heads like you in the SAAF, i'm far from surprised.

stillchris:
by word of mouth? sure.. we'll believe whatever you say

Henry120:
Nope, you haven't.

stillchris:
no patches. stop talking like a novice

that's a silly excuse.

you signed the contract in 98. so definitelt had 10 years to train more than 9 pilots before the aircrafts are delivered.

now it's 17 years and you are stuck with just 9

Henry120:
So, why don't you provide evidence that you have more than 9 Pilots?

Henry120:
At present the SAAF can only muster six qualified Gripen pilots who only have 150 flying hours available across the whole Gripen squadron this year, according to Maynier. The annual target for fighter flying hours was 250 for the 2011/2012 period, according to the Department of Defence’s most recent Annual Report.

http://defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29831:a-dozen-saaf-gripens-in-long-term-storage35:Aerospace




SAAF only has 6 qualified Gripen Pilots, and only 9 Gripen Pilots of a total Gripen crew of 18.