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Grayjoy:
There was a religion, yes I agree. But this religion is named "christianity" because those practicing that religion were living like and behaving like d founder of dat religion nt just believing in him.

very true!
But like i said before, we are looking at the end and not the means.
The end or the reason for everything is eternal life. John 3:16.

We are justified into eternal life by our faith not our works.
What happened at Antioch was simply works.
Works is good, but even the Jews were doing works of the law long before Jesus came.
Just like what christians did at Antioch they were doing good as well.

Today we have Muslims and athiests doing good even more than christians. Does that mean they are saved?
I don't think so

CherryRivera:
my heart skipped a beat or two... He looks delicious

I love your courage and sincerity

Hildalicious:
Oh my God, this is beautiful

you are a very sincere person

Grayjoy:
Our faith? That is farfetched from the reason why the apostles were first called "christians" in Antioch. They were called so because they saw that these behave and act exactly like christ. Their lifestyle not their faith. Not because they believed that Jesus is the saviour (although that is part of it). U'll agree with me that many even prostitutes have faith in God. But can u call a prostitute a christian? How will u react if the prostitute u met a few hours ago is leading the chorus in the church u visited?
Christian means christ-like, originated in Antioch used in referring to the apostles.

ok, you are following the origin of the name christianity.

Let me remind you that name do not matter.
What matters is that there was a religion, and that religion is what is known as christianity today.

The religion has existed long before the event at Antioch even though it got it name at Antioch.

At the point of Christ resurrection, that's when the religion started.
Without resurrection no salvation.

Antioch did not save anybody or give anyone eternal life.
Get that?

lestat:
Why waste your own precious time like this my dear lad?

Maybe your parents still fund your expenses but it's never too late to think of your future

Of what use is this thread you created ? How will it ease things for your parents or make you a better adult tomorrow?

Are you aware that in the coming months Nigeria faces one of her greatest challenges, in the build.up to the next preseidntial elections ?

Why not start now to decide the type of leader you would.like to vote for ?
Why not start now follow them on Twitter , radio , social.media and the?

Following their mandate and all their activities?

Why waste your time like this ?

who is this one? I say ladies only. What's my business with your politics ?

Grayjoy:
If u followed what OP said u wouldn't be misquoting me. What the bible referred to as "my house" in mal. 3:10 is what we call churches today. Op never said b4 christ or after, I never did, where u brought that 4rm is where I dnt know.
I never said a building is the way, do I need to tell u dat a church building is d temple of God and should be sacred?
The thing is, there are many pastors that decieve people yet there are true pastors.

I understand you now, I'm sorry i misquoted you

I love this line "there is nothing like church goer or christian b4 God" I totally agree, that is to say many who goes to church are not christians and in d eyes of God they are unbelievers same with people who do all sort of things.

hmm! Not really!
Everyone who believes in Christ are christians whether they go to church or not.
What makes us christians is simply the fact that we believe.
Our faith!

agbonkamen:
A Turn off

I know what you mean

Is he sexy?

AFRICA NA BACKWARD PEOPLE O..
RELIGION AND AFRICAN TRADITION DON TURN AFRICA BACKWARD OOO

I SORI SORI O
I SORI FOR NIGERIA

I SORI SORI O
I SORI FOR AFRICA.

Op, wetin this woman of God dressing do you now?
Abi your brain na backward?

bloodofthelamb:
So true. Non of the old testament prophet have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them. He only work with them but not in them.

The 'new creation in Christ' is a home to the Spirit of Truth.

exactly bro!

alBHAGDADI:
These days, it is common to see celebrities posting pictures of themselves helping the needy. It could be at an orphanage home or some beggars on the street. Trust me, it is really good to help those in need, but the motive behind doing such is what determines whether what you just did is good or bad.

This month alone, I've seen Nigerian celebrities go on social media to show the world how they are helping others. First it was Kiss Daniel who posted a picture which shows him giving food and money to beggars on the street on Easter. Then came B-Red, an associate of Davido, who filmed himself sharing N500 notes to kids on the street, kids who didn't really look like they were suffering. As if I had not seen enough of such this month, Daddy Freeze also had himself in a video with his baby mama sharing food to destitute.

To a not well trained Christian mind, what the above folks did is cool and good, but when examined carefully, one will find that it is not pleasing in God's eyes. Don't you all think it is absurd giving someone your phone to record you while you are doing charitable deeds? It becomes more absurd when you upload it on social media. To what ends? To show the world that you are kind and to receive praises from men?

If the intention to give came genuinely from the heart, you won't want anyone to see you doing it. If the intention to help the needy came as a result of you wanting to please God, you will do it before His eyes only. But if the intention is to get praises from men, then you will do it before men and broadcast it as far as it can go.

Kiss Daniel's intention wasn't to help the beggars but to get praises from his social media fans who indeed praised him for the gesture.

Watching the video in which B-Red is seen giving money to kids, one will instantly know that he didn't care about the kids who really didn't look like they needed his money. He just gave it to them cos that's what he needed to do to get praises from men. However, his gesture proved abortive as his Instagram fans blasted him for filming himself doing such.

VIDEO HERE: https://www.instagram.com/p/BhdmVHrHpwi/?taken-by=bredhkn



As for Daddy Freeze, one can easily know that he decided to help the destitute with food just to prove a point. He wanted his deceived fans to see that he helps the needy unlike the pastors he loves to criticize whom he claims would rather use the money to buy private jets.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUU0HkdE14


Recording himself while in the act shows that he never did it to help the needy. His action is even worse than the pastors whom he claims don't help. The reason why we don't know that these pastors help might be because they don't show it in the media.

Daddy Freeze claims he follows the teachings of the Bible. Let's see whether his actions as seen in the video goes in line with the teachings of Jesus Christ whom he says his Free The Sheeple Movement In Christ is modeled after.

Mathew 6:2-4

2 So when you give to the needy, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be praised by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their reward.

3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,

4 so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.


Can you all now see that celebrities who flaunt their good deeds on social media are not really doing it for the needy and not for God, but for men to praise them.

If their actions on social media is inspiring you to do the same i.e post pictures or videos of yourself helping the needy, I'll advice you to have a rethink. Go out there and help the needy but don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. Obeying that commandment shows you are a true Christian.

This post is to prevent you from allowing celebrities influence your life cos their life is fake.

so this what religion has turn you into, hatred for humanity ?

If na W. F. Kumuyi go commission bridge with ambode, them come show everything for tv, he is not hypocrites abi?

Na celebrities own you dey look dey call hypocrites simply because they are not pastors and you hate them eh?

My guy, park well o

hypnotic:
Elisha and the 40 children

which Elisha?
When Jesus says the least person in God's kingdom is greater than all the prophets of the old?

So, you want to emulate evil?
A prophet killing 40 children for being childish is that not evil?

When Jesus says love your neighbor as yourself?

You people should just be mindful of the way you follow people like D. K Olukoya who want to be like old testament prophets. They are misleading you people o

whitebeard:
bless u..it the op type that will be going to church were the pastor is a scammer, later the op will find out and start shouting GOD does not exist... Nigerian atheist funny die, group of ignorant fellows with some of them suffering from one complex or the other.. I pray for them though..!

exactly

Grayjoy:
Church is the house of God even in the bible.

what bible days? Specify please, Is it after the resurrection of Jesus or before?

Although christians are also called temple of God.

there is no other also...
We only have one temple of God which is the body of Christ which are christians themselves.

Church building is not any temple of God. It is just mere building were people gather there is nothing there .

Jesus says I'm the way, that means he is the only way.
Church building is not any way, Pastors don't want people to know this truth.

NB: when I say christians i dnt mean church goers.

a christian is a christian, there is nothing like church goer or non church goer before God.

hypnotic:
Go and save souls for Jesus, that is my conclusion

only if you had said so

Suspect33:
since when did 'DO NOT' become a suggestion? Perphaps the ten commandment is also a suggestion, i have no doubt we are living in the end times, tufia!

tufia! is irritation associated with primitive Africans.
Say no to primitivity!

Pursue knowledge and understanding.
God's kingdom on earth is forever here on this earth. That means this earth will never end, nothing like end time.

There is no law in the 10 commandments that says do not forsake the gathering, be educated my guy.

phayvoursky:
I'm a Pastor.

I tell my members the truth.

Give to the Pastor and it shall be given unto you

giving to pastors is good.
But collecting a regular compulsory payment of 10% from the income of church members in the name of tithing is very bad.

Grayjoy:
malachi 3:10 should answer ur question. House of God is what we call church these days.

wrong!
When Jesus says i will build my church he never meant he was going to build any house. I don't know where you people are getting this house of God thing from .

Eat your tithe, don't take it any house.
Your body is God's temple better than any building you can ever think of.

crunchyg:
Yea we all know that going to church is not a prerequisite of making heaven, but the bible commanded us not to forsake the gathering of the believers. So my question is if the trumpet of God sounds now and maybe you are in your bed sleeping , or in the field playing football or in the hotel enjoying yourself, what excuse will you give to God that made you not to go church today?

God is not interested in church going. All he want from us is, believe in Christ that's all.

Do not forsake the gathering is not a command, it's a suggestion and it remain optional.

If you like go, if you don't like stay at home.
Nobody or church can decide for anyone

Weed smoking op

Abi na akamu + fermented palmi you drink?

Nebuchadnezzar

You must pay your tithe too o, if you don't have go and borrow

boldx:
Christ Embassy believes that once saved is eternally saved.

yes! That's true.
But, I once heard pastor Chris teaching that if a christian do not repent of his sin he is going to hell fire.
Then, I begin to wonder, what is this man saying?

hypnotic:
i am not here to argue but give counsel.

then you should have gone straight to counsel rather than to putting up that crap you did.

Bible is easy to understand, ask the Holy Spirit, it is his book, he will teach you. Besides do not debase any pastor (because you do not know the spiritual cover the pastor has no matter how "small" the pastor might be) or else you might find out that unbelievers are living better lives than you because you have used your mouth to open yourself to curse you could have avoided; thus heal yourself

You know, you cannot counsel anything in christianity except you have scriptural back up.
Can you back up what you have just said about pastors and curses using scriptures?

Anyway, read my post again. no church have the power to impose their beliefs on anyone.
Your faith as a christian is what justifies you, that justification is eternal,which is very scriptural and very correct, Once saved is always saved
So, i don't know where your healing counsel is coming from?

If you did not understand what I meant, may be you are the one that needs the healing, cos you had the option of not commenting at all.

Mr councellor

hypnotic:
Heal yourself abeg

is that all you can saying?
Anyway, i never expected anything less from people that think bible is that easy to understand. They don't have any argument

trapQ:
You're not talking to a novice. Post verses that imply that a Christian can never lose their salvation despite perpetually living and indulging in sin.

Mteeeeeew!!! I thought i was talking to human being .

This one is typical of Pharisees asking Jesus show me sign from heaven.

My guy, no verses for you, get lost

Originality007:
I dont care what ever u write or say, in as much is my money, I dony need any guidelines from u or anyone to pay my tithes...So just waka pass.

shut up! You don't pay any tithe! and obviously you don't have money talkless of paying.
People who have money and they are pay don't come out to say they have money.
They pay quietly and don't argue anything.

Ewu!

pressplay411:
Paul, the apostle of gentiles spoke at length on ministering of saints (church) i.e offerings, contributions. Paul being a strong Jew before he became a witness of Christ, so he knows fully well all about tithing, yet in ministering to saints he never mentioned it.
Giving however is encouraged. 1 Corinthians 9:11-18 informs us of how ministers are allowed to eat from the gospel (offerings) yet he would rather deny himself of his right than make it a stumbling block on to any one.

About collections (offerings) on to saints, he says further,
1 Corinthians 6:2 On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come.

Notice no mention of tithe yet again. But giving is encouraged to minister to the needs of the church (ministers needs, charity to the poor and administration expenses). Not according to any percentage but according to your heart and in proportion to your blessing. Remember the story of Jesus about the gifts of the poor woman VS rich man.

Colossians 2:16-23
This stresses the liberty in Christianity. Let no one judge you by any rules or regulations, for all that died when we died with Christ. It culminates with this closing remark annulling laws.
Col.2.23 - These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.

In conclusion, it is easy for some pastors (if not careful) to wamt to dwell and hold on to certain old laws that favour them yet agree that others are no longer relevant. Is that not just hypocritical?
It's impossible for a pastor or bishop to do right by his works in ministering to his saints, in teaching them, guiding them and edifying them with the gifts of the spirit and ever worry about giving.
Becaise you who know how much you've gained by your Salvation, deliverance, miracles, knowledge of the word and building up of the faith and holy spirit, I doubt you'll withold in giving to such ministry, not out of compelling, threats or laws but with a cheerful heart.

I dare say, If you have to force your members to give, you have not yet started your work as a Pastor or Bishop.

you have said it all as a true man of God

trapQ:
Bla bla bla bla bla.

Dude, learn to speak with facts. By facts here I mean Bible verses. Stop the long sermon and drop verses supporting your claims, otherwise you're just saying things.

OK,
I want to give you scripture now.
church that does not believe that once saved is always saved is not church, it is money making business.
Why?
Because christians that believe that, there are christians who are not saved will always go back to church in order to purify themselves by pastors or priests which is very wrong.
Meanwhile, the scripture says in John 1:12

John1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

You have already believed and received him and that was once.
He gave you power to become saved and that was once .

This is not hard to understand.

hypnotic:
okay, the Holy Spirit comes when you ask, it is not automatic

Yes!
when you assuming you were a non christian like Muslim or practicing any other religion apart from christianity begin to request that you want to join christianity, at that point you are requesting for the holy spirit. That means, the holy spirit is not automatic, you must request for it first just like many instances in the bible people were converted.

But in a case where you were already a christian or brought up from childhood a christian like many redeem members where brought up, to say they all have the holy spirit automatically is under statement.
They are the holy spirit themselves because Christ was already in them long before they started attending redeem, but they didn't know.
And pastor adeboye will never tell them this truth because he is benefiting financially from their ignorance.

The holy spirit is Christ in the believer,
It is your faith or religion christianity.
A scripture says without faith it is impossible please God.
You must believe in Christ and not Mohammed or whatever.

The bottomline is,
Those who parade themselves as tithe payers saying it works for them are the demons themselves.
They know it not scriptural for christians to pay tithe, they do it all because they think it works.

Like babalawo and juju is working