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666, What Does it Mean?

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"Here is wisdom, Let him that hath understanding
count the number of the beast: for it is the number
of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore
and six." -Revelation 13:18

The Bible teaches that the antichrist will gain total
economic and religious control of the entire world
wrong . All
people will worship him and receive a mark on their
hands or upon their foreheads in order to buy or sell.
who is Antichrist?
Those who refuse to take the mark will be hunted down
and eliminated.
i don't know abt this

The number 666 is seen as an evil number. This is no
doubt because of its appearance in occult films and
upon the bodies of certain rock musicians. The number
almost puts terror in the hearts and minds of some
believers.

In this study we are going to discuss the facts
surrounding the "the mark of the beast" but avoiding
speculation. It is important to free ourselves from the
myths that have grown up around this issue and to
concentrate on what the Bible actually says. What we
will present is no new revelation, we will simply accept
only what the Bible actually says. Great care and
attention must be taken when trying to understand or
interpret prophecy (including this one). The key to all
Biblical prophecy is: Interpret prophecy as literal unless
it is obviously symbolic, but understand that there must
be a literal meaning behind the symbolism. If we do not
do this we will fall into the same trap as the cults and
some Christian groups. For instance, the Seventh-day
Adventists believe that the mark of the beast is actually
worshipping God on Sunday. I don’t think that those
who worship on Sunday have any more boils as those
who worship on Saturday (see Revelation 16:2). The
interpretation is obviously foolish, but do you realise
that some have been just as unbiblical in the past? We
may even at this time hold views that, though they may
sound plausible, do not hold any weight in the light of
Scripture. Unless we approach this subject in the
wisdom of God’s Holy Spirit we will end up with mere
idle speculation.

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femi4:
You are getting it wrong, family altar is just a cliche.
E.g Do you have a family altar? simply means "Do you pray with your family regularly?"

Praying on the church altar or podium is not wrong, its your faith that matters

Then family prayer should be used rather,
The term family alter is rather confusing for most nigerian christians. To you, you understand it, perhaps you have a better orientation.
How about billions of illiterate christians who go to church?
don't you think they will misinterprete it as some kind of a place for diabolical rituals where people go to pray that God should kill their enemies (humans )? By going there to scream, die by fire?

lagmostkuit:
I got thinking about this!

Why do we go to church? What benefit is there in attending church regularly… for me, for you, for others?

Here's my list and we should ponder on it if we've not been going to church.


1. The Bible indicates it’s what we should do. (Hebrews 10:25)

2. You will have the opportunity to worship God.

3. You will likely have some of life big questions answered.

4. Being there will encourage your pastors and leaders.

5. You’ll be encouraged in your walk with God.

6. If you’re single, you may meet someone.

7. If you have kids, it will teach them to value God and His Church.

8. It honours God.

9. Because gathering is part of what makes u a christian.

10. It'll help u acknowledge and confess your sins.

You can add yours


Written by muah!
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1. The Bible indicates it’s what we should do.
(Hebrews 10:25)
But HEB 10:25 was a suggestion and not a command. so, whether you go or not it is all subjected to your decision, It has nothing to do with whether you are a christian or not.
Jesus says he has destroyed building in 3days
2. You will have the opportunity to worship
God.
John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain(church ), nor yet at Jerusalem (church ), worship the Father.
so, we don't go to any place to worship anymore, what you do in church is not worship, it is praise. worship is to believe in Jesus, that's all

3. You will likely have some of life big
questions answered.
Churches are not answering questions satisfactorily
4. Being there will encourage your pastors and
leaders..for what?
5. You’ll be encouraged in your walk with God.
if you say so, this is a good reason to go
6. If you’re single, you may meet someone.
another good reason
7. If you have kids, it will teach them to value
God and His Church.
children are thought doctrines that if full of mixtures of truth and lies, that's why they grow up to become corrupt individuals and corrupt nation leaders
8. It honours God.
because Jesus and salvation is preached. another good reason
9. Because gathering is part of what makes u a
christian.
not at all. rather, gathering is what makes people see you as christians. what makes you a Christian is your believe in Jesus only, gathering is not included
10. It'll help u acknowledge and confess your
sins.
only when you are willing to do so

my Bible tells me our body is God's temple.
If so be it, why are Christians still looking for alter or a particular place for prayer in their room?
why will dey have a place called ulter in churches where christians think if they don't bow down there to pray God will not answer them?
Are these not the same thing people who visit babalawo for rituals do?
well, i understand everybody have their way they want to practice religion based on how they understand. But some of us have chosen to be totally free from rituals and ordinamces, because we know we have the power in us already.
we don't need rituals

engrlarex:
honestly I don't really understand if there is any biblical Injunction for praying with God of a particular pastor or prophet. I used to see so many Christians around me praying with God of Ayo Babalola, God of Oyedepo, God of Adeboye, God of Lord chosen, God of Apostle Sulaimon.. can someone make some clarifications on this.

them nor get God?
na only adeboye, oyedepo and baba ayo babalawo get God?
i think this happen because of self limitation.
they limit themselves to these pastors subordination too much, may be out of fear

CaptainJune:
Jesus Christ fulfilled the prophecies concerning Him as foretold by the prophets in the Old Testament.

Paul, on his way to Damascus, had a revelation of Jesus Christ that changed his life forever.

ok, Jesus fulfilled his prophecy while the fulfillment was revealled to Paul.
that means the prophecy about Jesus is the revelation now, they are the same thing, no difference

Sweetrolly:
THIS ISSUE OF REINCARNATION HAS BEEN BOTHERING ME FOR A WHILE NOW BECAUSE A LOT OF CHRISTIANS BELIEVE IN REINCARNATION BUT FROM WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS THAT AFTER DEATH COMES JUDGEMENT AND THAT MEANS THAT WHEN SOMEONE DIES JUDGEMENT FOLLOWS AND IT MEANS THAT YOU WILL BE JUDGED ACCORDING TO YOUR DEEDS ON EARTH AND IT ALSO MEANS THAT AFTER YOU ARE BEING JUDGED TWO THINGS ARE INVOLVED WHICH ARE:

1 IF YOU ARE FOUND GUILTY ACCORDING TO YOUR DEEDS WHILE ON EARTH YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO A PLACE OF SUFFERING WHICH IS HE'LL FIRE

2 IF YOU ARE FOUND INNOCENT BASED ON YOUR GOOD DEEDS WHILE ON EARTH YOU WILL BE REWARDED WITH HEAVENLY CROWN AND A LIFE OF ENJOYMENT IN HEAVEN

SO I NOW WANT TO ASK SINCE AFTER DEATH COMES JUDGMENT WHY WOULD SOMEONE WHO MUST HAVE BEEN JUDGED STILL COME BACK TO THE WORLD IN FORM OF REINCARNATION?
WHY DO MANY CHRISTIANS BELIEVE IN THIS?

GUYS WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?

op, reincarnation is real.
it is what the bible described as resurrection of the dead. read 1cor 15:35 to the end of the chapter.

CaptainJune:
No you don't. This quote below proves it.



Besides erroneously calling this passage prophecy, you misunderstand it to be a parable.

The living creatures are literal beings. They are heavenly creatures who praise God before His throne day and night.

ok, what is the difference between revelation and prophecy?

Scholar8200:
That's not a prophecy!!! It's a description! Ezekiel saw similar Creatures in Ezekiel 1!

whatever

CaptainJune:
Paxonel, really, you're the one confused here. You highlighted a parable with its interpretation, but you misinterpret other passages of the Bible expecting them to tow in line with the interpretation of the parable of the sower.

Heaven, Hell, and the Book of Life are not parables. They're facts, real facts. They are literal concepts, not symbolic concepts as some folks erroneously suppose to the detriment of their souls.

Granted, there are things in the Bible that may require some explanation for better understanding, but those you mentioned are hardly deserving of "interpretation" if you can read and write.

i know exactly what need not to be interpreted and what need to be interpreted in the Bible

Scholar8200:
A parable is different from a prophecy. The Book of life was also referred to in Exodus 32:33! The coming of Jesus Whose parable you quoted was also prophesied, do you mean those prophecies were parables with another meaning?!

there are prophecies that were direct and do not need interpretation.
But there are other prophesies like.
Revelation 4:7
And the first beast was like a lion
lion = what?
and the second beast like a calf,
calf = what?
and the third beast had a face as a man
man = what?
, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle
flying eagle = What?
infact BEAST = what?
You see, when people read these things they become scared. meanwhile, there is nothing there if you get their interpretation

This is a very dangerous reality.
Pastors are confused, all of them. No church is exempted in this wave of confusion.
Now, i am very much interested in the moral values and the knowledge building block (the general studies curriculum) of the nation, not just taking what pastor 1 says and pastor 2 says another thing totally different and you will still take it . The family was supposed to be the unit for inculcating morality, But since the family has been crumbled by faulty African tradition and un educated parents religion now take over to teach the children, But this time, with more confusion.
Now just follow me and look at this Scripture.
After Jesus gave a parable, he interpreted the parable like this for proper understanding
Matthew 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed =the Son of man; 13:38 The field =world
; the good seed=the children of the kingdom;
but the tares = the children of the wicked one; 13:39 The enemy that sowed them=the devil
; the harvest =the end of the world;
and the reapers=the angels
Now, this is the only Scripture of the Bible that parables and fugurative languages were interpreted extensively for understanding the actual message the writer want to pass accross, and if we use this same format Jesus used , the whole Scripture can be understood.
Now, the question is, how are we sure that the whole Bible do not need interpretation like this for us to understand it so that we will not be confused?
ok, look at this
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Book of life = what?
Lake of fire = what?
Surely, if this is subjected to interpretation
Book of life is not book, it is something else.
Lake of fire is not fire that is burning people, it is something else.
Another one is
Acts 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so COME IN LIKE MANNER as ye have seen him go into heaven
come in like manner = what?
surely, come in like manner is not rapture if you interprete it.
This is now they have used uninterpreted scriptures to make the vast Nigerian christians believe that rapture is coming, this world will end, hell fire is coming to burn people. Therefore making people not to work hard, fight for their right and enjoy their lives here on earth.
illiterate people are the most victims of these school of thought

jeffucee10:
Then we should use the right word....Jesus gave his life to us and ask that we believe, accept and confess him as Lord and savior.

exactly

jeffucee10:
OP, please I would like you to show us where is it written in the Bible that one should give his life to Christ?

it is not stated like that anywhere in the bible. that one should give his life to Christ. But rather, it says, we should believe in Jesus Jesus for our eternal life.
john 3:16 ..But whosover believe should not perish.
The point is, it is for us to believe that's all.
But christians uses the phrase give your life to Christ, to compel believers to be devoted working either for religious leaders in church or to be morally upright

jentlguy:
No allow those PASTORS blind u. As u d talk i knw say na those Prosperity Gospel church u dey go.

U go continue to sin say u dey go heaven, u continue to sex ur babe, say u dey go heaven. God neva change nd him no go change because of US.

God is the most merciful and compassionate (he sent is only Begotten SON to die for us) and he is a Consuming Fire.

God na consuming fire, true. That one mean say, every sin where we commit here on earth we go suffer am.here on earth , and if we nor repent we go continue to suffer, because God na consuming fire .
that is why you see people dey suffer, na because of one sin where their parents don commit, like, their parents nor gree send them to school.
But to go heaven nor be whether you go school or not. To go heaven na for everybody where believe in Jesus. john 3:16.
And you know, the more you go school the less sin you commit.
na ignorance dey make people commit sin.
But because Jesus don come die, ignorance is not an excuse anymore, ignorance nor fit stop people from believing in Jesus and get saved
this one nor be prosperity message, this one na true

Iceflox:
But personally, if you robb me and i catch you, you are dead

that is the way i feel too.
that's why we are humans.
But thank God, God is not human like that.
the armed robber who robbed us can runaway from us, so that we will not kill him, and go to God for mercy

jentlguy:
Because u were born into a Christian family doesn't mean u are SAVED

Do u think going to church everyday means u are SAVED.
Do u know who a Christian is.
Once saved doesn't mean already saved.

Not all that go to Church are Christians.

you are just talking from the way you feel.
God does not feel like that, he is merciful.
Thank God we have started feeling like God, and start practicing mercy to people.
Are you heart broken that murderers and fornicators are already in heaven?
There is nothing you can do to change that

brocab:
I see, after reading about Pastor Chris okafor he is a prosperity preacher, another one biting the dust, wrong teachings always leads to destruction, by his own sermons he is after the cash more then he preachers the truth on the word of God. Already the fruit of the spirit isn't showing-and destruction will always come forward, with those who fail the test.

And if these allegations against him are true, then the Church needs to stand fern, telling him to step down from his authority, if he is found guilty he needs to repent before the Lord-and if the Church is willing after he repents-let him preach.
If God can forgive so the Church must forgive-this man needs to re-study the scriptures before he becomes a preacher again.

His wife is accusing him for bashing her, while other women involved in the Church have accused him for sleeping around with them.
If these allegations are true, by their fruits you will know them-others words this man does not follow God-What's wrong with the Church, why are they allowing this man to keep on preaching, this isn't showing a good example, is this the way the Church expects to act against each other? What the blind do, the blind don't see.
Church get him out-someone stand up to Him, question his so called authority. Until Pastor Chris is found innocent place the second pastor in charge of the Church as long as he isn't corrupted too.
If Pastor Chris is found guilty he needs to repent to God, he needs to repent to the Church, and all those he has feared and hurt.
This man needs to step down.

step down?
it's like you don't know these Africans.
a political administrator has never stepped down because he was found corrupt in the history of African politics, is it a religious leader who will tell you i build the church by my own effort that will step down?
impossible.
the worst is, over 80% of the church members comprising of brainwashed minds, will still uphold the pastor as their spiritual head inspite the level of misconduct found by the pastor.
we have heard of one rev king who was indicated for murdering his church member, yet some members of that church goes to prison to feed him, saying he was suffering persecution as Paul and Salas suffered, that he was not guilty of the murder

Iceflox:
i think God's reaction towards sinners is liberal.
Even the seemingly righteous christians are envious.
You don't mean it, after all the sin he commited, killing and robbing people, he till make heaven.
This is what they don't want to hear

you know, things like this, you don't have choice but to accept

brocab:
It don't matter what part of the world you go, we will always find prosperity preachers every where, all preaching the same sermon {Money}
What you had said: this same teaching 'all must go to Church, came directly from the Roman Catholic Church at the Vatican.
It was Pope Francis who is pushing for the new world religion, bringing to power, a law that everyone must worship God on a Sunday.
Sunday worship, is not biblical.
With the info you have shared, shows another Church bites the dust, that's leading many to Hell.
1 Timothy 6: "Its been in the last few years we are hearing more and more about these Churches, and its sad every time when we hear God's chosen have been led away, for Error and greed; preachers are proud, knowing nothing, causing disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife reviling, evil suspicions, men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, using the word of God as the means of financial gain.
And the Lord says withdraw yourselves from these men.
Matthew Mark and Luke Jesus warns us, many will come in, His name, claiming they are He.

prosperity preachers can afford to exist in developed nations such as America and the UK, these countries have stable economy.
The urgent need for Africa is not prosperity preachers, Africa need enlightenment urgently.
Africans need to be informed about the Bible content, what information the Bible is trying to pass, and no pastor is ready to do that. All they want is money.
Right now, i followed a friend to one liberation city church in Lagos, Nigeria.
the pastor is just saying because Abraham sacrificed his son(ignoring the Scripture that says the least person in God's kingdom is greater than Abraham ) that church members should go and empty their bank account and come and sacrifice the money on his ulter.
i swear to God, this thing is happening right now as i post this ,10:37am, Sunday 26th July 2015.
You can search for pastor Chris okafor message of this date.
image the way people are desperate to get money.
and foolish Nigerian government don't see these things

babafemi1000:
Pray the Holy Ghost to inform and enlighten you and he will. Glad to see you seeking God for yourself. Don't stop searching the scriptures, you'll find truth there.

God bless you for this

brocab:
This is why there are major problems involving the church, no-one is gain enough to question the head, allowing these mad men's to continual to control these non-spiritual churches.
An old traditional family type head, should be asked questions, involving family traditions, but to allow a man to control a household without training, is like placing a child in to be the next government.
Home or Church does not make any differences, even the leadership takes orders from either the law or if they are Christian take orders from God.
Who is Bishop oyedepo? And what was his experiences in the UK.
You seem to know a lot about what is happening in Africa-is it because you live amongst the African community.
Is this your Church you belong too, the Living Faith Church the winners chapel in Africa?

Oyedepo is the founder of the living faith church in Nigeria, Africa.
i live in Nigeria though I visit the UK often.
i see the differences in values between UK churches and African churches.
i think the problem of Africa comes from the african traditions.
the Bible preaches ethics and love..
African traditions uphold injustice, and infringe on the rights of the minors.
Africans unconciously take these values into their churches.
the worst is, they use rapture to threaten church members in Africa that, if they are not loyal to pastors they will miss rapture and go to hell fire, saying that if Jesus come and meet you and catch you red handed when you are suppose to be in church .
So, every Christian in Africa are all church freak.
Then, you see these kind of pastors who will tell you that the reason why you are not making money is because some spiritual men in your village are hunting you.
Then, you will start calling your old mama in the village witch and refused to take care of her.
university professors in Africa are also brainwashed like this, by illiterate pastors.
imagine the level of injustice and ignorance

Sunglow:
For u it is story, but it takes less than a seconds for anyone to transcend from this physical material world into Eternity. Will u be able to come back and make things right?You know what the bible says, that they (people or anyone) without God is without hope they not know what shall befall them at the end, they live not knowing life is a journey from the physical to our final resting place eternity)CHRIST IN ME MY HOPE OF GLORY.

The rapture doctrine is not an intelligent one at all, it is a contradictory doctrine from satan to continue tormenting God's children on earth , by some ancient Catholic primitive theologians who never went to school.
unfortunately, christians never summon the courage to analyse it until this present generation..
Thank God for current day educated christians .
when you meet people spending millions to build sky scrappers in Dubai, new york, Australia. To them., rapture is fake story. Nothing of such will ever happen in reality.
I can't spend money building my world as God commanded Adam, replenish this world, only for it to be destroyed by some illogical event called rapture.
look at the illogical story self, as intelligent as the Bible is?
in all the books i have read in my whole life i have never seen any book as intelligent as the bible.
little wonder it is the greatest selling book at all times.
if you are still talking about rapture as a christian , then it's obvious you are still far from understanding Bible

brocab:
As Quote> But you don't how it is scam, you heard it from someone that tithe is scam just like they made you believe rapture is coming.
Was it not you who had "Claimed" you were taught about the rapture in Church, and you believed-just like we all were taught these same lies.
See people these days rely on the pastor more then they rely on God, no-longer do they read the word of God themselves. Having no knowledge or wisdom they are bumping into each other blinded. This gives the preachers a chance to say anything they like in Church, even if it does take people away from the word of God. Who questions their authority

they can't try all that in developed countries where people ask sensitive questions such as uk, SA and america.
Bishop oyedepo will tell you his experience in the UK.
our priority should be mental development of church members, but African tradition nor let us see road.
just like what is happening in African families, the father will mess up and nobody questions him in the house simply because he is the head, the same thing is practiced in churches. Nobody question pastors even when they are wrong

Sunglow:
And those that are still alive who are in Christ we also at the sound of the trumpet be caught up in the air to meet the Lord.(many on the earth after the rapture will notice the sudden disapperance of peoples allover the world bit they will still not understand what has happened)Then we go to heaven. In heaven we will stay only 7 yrs after the 7 yrs then will Christ n tens, tens of thousands of His saints return to the earth this time around "all eyes shall see him"because this time his feet will touch the earth( I think mount Oliver in Jerusalem, but for the rapture he will just be in the air and rapture the church) that's when that scripture will be fulfilled.

story.
I have heard this fiction before.
go and read this thread

Sunglow:
The rapture n coming of Christ are two different events that will happen one after the other.Rapture will happen 1st n only those in Christ will hear the trumpet now when the rapture happens Christ Jesus will be in the air/clouds then the dead in Christ will be raised at the sound of the trumpet to meet the lord in the air

I'm sure you didn't read this thread

brocab:
I am not saying in my own words, but the bible says that every eye will see Jesus coming down.
The bible proves the rapture will come at the end of the age "not before" every eye will see Jesus coming, Not just a few-who are raptured.
Romans 8:18-38 "For the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. {Meaning everyone suffers before they can enter into glory at the end of the age}V's 36 As it is written-For your sake we are killed all day long; We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Why do you even listen to these false prophets-when you have the bible in front of you, test the spirits-test the word, test the truth. Jesus said: He will come at the end of the age-NOT BEFORE.
I have heard this lie myself-and some believers claim and believe the rapture will come before the end of the age, they believe they won't suffer any pain before Christ is coming-this is not true.
I was taught this very same lie in Church, until one day I asked the lord for the truth' and sure enough the lord has been pouring out the truth amongst those who want the truth. The lord tells us "CLEARLY" in scripture when the final call up will happen at the end of the age, not before.

This is like the tithing scam they use within the church. ripping God's people off, twisting the truth around for financial gain.

Yes, it is true that tithe is scam.
i have analysed it, tithe is truly brain washing.
But you don't know how it is scam.
You heard it from someone that tithe is scam, just like they made you to believe rapture is coming.
You don't analyse the bible to confirm truths.
Anything they tell you, so long it falls within the general beliefs of people all over the country and your church, to you automatically it is true.
even when the whole nation is not morally upright, you ignore that fact and take their general principles and beliefs of rapture.
it is your choice

brocab:
And I would like to add, when believers don't check the word of God themselves, they end up confused about what's been said by the Church.
1 John 4:1 "My Dear friends do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see if they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
So its important to check the word of God. And read what Jesus says in word and in truth.

that's true

brocab:
Revelation 3:22 "Whoever has ears let him hear what the Spirit says to the Churches.

Ephesians 1:17 " That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ. the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him {Jesus}.

Colossians 3:16 "Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God.

Romans 8:9-10 "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. "And if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin" yet the Spirit is alive because of righteousness.

Revelation 1:7-8 "Behold He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. Even so Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, "Who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty

"Christ is hear in the Spirit" Christ said: He will come' in the clouds with great power and glory. Every eye will see Christ coming down from Heaven. Until then we are with Christ in Spirit and in Word and in truth..

They used to tell us in church that when rapture comes, only those who will be raptured will see Jesus and disappear. While others will not know what is going on.
Now, you are saying every eyes will see Christ coming down?

brocab:
And I am enjoying my stay here on earth, being led by the Holy Spirit, everyday seeking new and better ways how to live a smoother life. Writing and studying the word of God, searching and learning new ways, finding written truths about our Lord as He lives.
Loving God-and loving my neighbour as myself. {Believing what was, believing what is, and believing what's to come}
Jesus Christ is Lord the King of kings and the Lord of lords.
How about you-who do you believe in-Has Christ came-"Or is Christ coming

You are good, you don't have any problem with God.
You are perfect the way you are like this, as far as God is concern. Simply because you believe in Jesus.
The same thing with me.
i believe that, to say Christ is coming is understatement.
Christ is already here with us

brocab:
Is Juju a Gypsie word for luck
I suppose when nothing else seems to work-people in genial find artefacts to cling onto. We call it idol worship-this started back in the days when the Church started to idolise status-a pagan belief that change the world-taken people away from the image of God.
What has the Rapture got to do with Juju
This just shows people are walking with demons rather then walking with God.

Demons and Juju do not exist in this physical world ,
They are all fictions.
Humans are the demons or angels by their actions,as the case may be.
The same thing with rapture.
people can never fly to the clouds or some mysterious disappearance in this physical world. If we die, anything can happen in the spirit, But certainly, not this physical world that we are living.

brocab:
As quote> They will not take religion again seriously again so that they will begin to take education and national development seriously for their benefit.
Your quote> sounds-you have decided to take religion away from the Nairalands and others-because you feel they aren't doing enough for themselves, you also feel 'they should be out there retrieving more worldly education, just to get a job-in this day and age, in my country people can't get the work they need, its even harder when one can't afford to study to retrieve any qualifications.
Age makes a difference. So when you see people turning towards God, its not because they are lazy-its because the lord says seek and you will find. Remember it was our ancestors that prayed to the lord to bring us "all" into this world, It don't mean one hasn't any skills. it just means no-one is hiring the people. And if you want people to listen to you then I advise you not to twist the word of God around saying the end has already come.
So if your heart is about helping the people, then at least speak to them about the truth.
Jesus said>Matthew 6:33 "First seek the kingdom of God, and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
Seeking the lord first is a great start-Its what every Christian should do. Its His wisdom with His knowledge, that supplies our needs on daily bases.
And if the Narialands are waiting on the Lord? "then" Let them wait. Sometimes things take time.
I am sure if the lord calls for certain people to work He will supply, {ask and it shall be given} but for the others, He had called them to be prey warriors, so our nations will survive, when hell on earth breaks out at the end of the age..

All this shouldn't bother you anyway? Your best shot is do what you do best. Live. how you live. And let God worry about the nations and Nairaland.
As Quote> You are fighting God, and you can never win. Well I have news for you God and His word has already won.
As quote> unfortunately there are other guys, who are educated people too, they are not on Nairaland.
Again it seems you have a poor ling Idea, that those you have chosen to write on this forum, {such as you} are either helpless and are uneducated, does this mean you have judged me, even though I am not from your country Nairaland.
As Quote> You say if I like I can call you names-but it seems the name calling has come from you, not only mocking the Christians, but Nairaland people as well.
its important to note 'either Black or White, we are all part of God's image.

please you have already seeked God's kingdom by being a Christian and not a Muslim.
You don't need church or ordinances or anything else But to avoid sin by loving your neighbour as yourself and enjoy your life here on earth