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Christianity Etc › Re: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by paxonel(m): 9:40am On Mar 30, 2015
Hildalicious:
Do putting people in fear ever make them morally upright?
you know!
thanks for the observation. you really are,... asking intelligently.
in all my life i have never seen any correlation between fear and being morally upright
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi To Scrap Some Church Traditions And Doctrines by paxonel(m): 9:20am On Mar 30, 2015
okotv:
he repented and realised his fault and who is man to judge him ?
it's a lie, he was influenced by what people in church will say. Right inside him, what he want is to be free someday
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi To Scrap Some Church Traditions And Doctrines by paxonel(m): 9:15am On Mar 30, 2015
okotv:
list the laws governing marriage in deeper life cause I think I know them all cause that's were I am getting married.

As for those who don't marry early, are you going to blame the church for that ? See, anything you have heard about marriage in deeper life, discard it cause even in my district, three youth workers wedded just in a month last year November. All things that you hear aren't just true.
that prospective couples should not visit each, should not hold hands, should be talking to each other at open places, possibly places where they can be monitored by marriage councellors.
they should not sit together in church, they should not kiss.
all these should be observed before they are finally pronounced husband and wife.
My God!
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi To Scrap Some Church Traditions And Doctrines by paxonel(m): 9:07am On Mar 30, 2015
okotv:
he said it sometime back that #tradition hinders transformation. He was talking about Samuel and Eli handing over their priesthood to their sons. If you listened to that message and the undertone, it seems non of his sons will inherit the ministry. By the way, I heard the son has been restored back. Can't confirm that yet.
that his son is a bad guy,
they should allow him continue to be the bad guy that he is.
must he follow his father's footstep?
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi To Scrap Some Church Traditions And Doctrines by paxonel(m): 7:42am On Mar 30, 2015
that his son who married Jamaican girl, I love that guy. let him come and take over the church, we will we will sack kumuyi and turn the church to christembassey,
any pastor and old man or woman who don't like it will go away with their long skirts.
Young people are you with me?
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi To Scrap Some Church Traditions And Doctrines by paxonel(m): 7:25am On Mar 30, 2015
okotv:
wakeup from your slumber my brother. Have you been to Kumuyi's house before ? I have been there. The church has a TV station and yet encourages people not to watch TV, how does that sound to you ? Its now on personal choice if you want to own a TV and this is authoritative.
why is he now changing everything now that he want to go? he never told any of his church members that those doctrine were man made, why is he saying it now?
do you know how many beautiful girls they have rendered old unmarried women?
even the laws governing marriage alone can make the man discourage
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi To Scrap Some Church Traditions And Doctrines by paxonel(m): 3:21am On Mar 30, 2015
pDude:
grin grin grin

So during his tenure, he did as he pleased and ordered decrees that were carried out. Now he is leaving, he wants to take his man-made doctrines because it isn't needed anymore abi? huh

That is why you should stop following pastors. They are demigods who do and undo at the expense of their dumb members.

So does it mean that deeper life babes will start to wear trousers, off-shoulder blouse and high heel shoes with makeup to complete the package? shocked shocked
if deeper life babes start doing this, it will be so beautiful. the church will start growing
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Kumuyi To Scrap Some Church Traditions And Doctrines by paxonel(m): 3:17am On Mar 30, 2015
okotv:
there isn't a doctrine like not owning TV in the church. It's now based on personal choice. Heaven is the goal. That's more important.
it's a lie, kumuyi dont have television in his house too, he imposed this tradition which has now become a doctrine to everybody
Christianity Etc › Re: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by paxonel(m): 2:25am On Mar 30, 2015
Hildalicious:
the question has always been, what do Africans benefit from continue living in fear?
i could see white kids jumping from mountain top or roof top on a skate board,men traveling to Mars to achieve some experiment or some cluster jumping from the sky with parachute,
and somebody is still talking about rapture and great tribulation in Africa?
when are we going to think straight?
lol,
i really do not know what our problem is,
may be, we are bewitched by traditions or something. And religion is not making things better
Christianity Etc › Re: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by paxonel(m): 1:59am On Mar 30, 2015
Etfash:
I think the Op has made a valid point. There are certain revelations that are for all whereas some are privileged information made known to us by the Holy Spirit. You will agree with me that Daniel, John the Revelator and Saul of Tarsus had some of these revelations.
But if the Holy Spirit has given an express instruction that all be revealed to the world, who are mine to say anything different. Like I said Op, please keep it up.

Meanwhile for the first person who said 'rubbish'. I have a word for you from Apostle Paul... 'Let him who think he knows know that he does not know as he ought to know'. And by the way, can a sincere person claim to be free when he knows he's empty within?

Christ' love to you all.
you are not being sincere,
all you want is to continue with the general belief among nigerians that rapture is coming ,making nigerians to fear what do not exist ?
what is your gain?
the average Nigerian is never a sincere person.
the OP concluded that the great tribulation is in our future which has just begun, thereby putting most nigerians into fear (fear is not a good spirit ),
i debunked that statement, saying the great tribulation has pass since 2000 years ago, so that there will be no need for our current day innocent Nigerian christians to continue living in fear again..
I quoted Jesus saying in Matthew 24:34 Verily I say
unto you, This generation(that generation of
Jesus 2000 years ago ) shall not pass, till all
these things be fulfilled.(all the things he said in that Matthew 24)
meaning, the thing has already been fulfilled in that generation
i also quoted
Revelation 1:1 saying, The Revelation of Jesus
Christ(the whole book of revelation from chapter 1 to 22), which God gave unto him, to shew unto
his servants things WHICH MUST SHORTLY
COME TO PASS ;..
John wrote this 2000 years ago.
i then asked the question, is 2000 years a short time?
if the answer is no, it is not a short time, then it is obvious that the revelation has already been fulfilled 2000 years ago. (by every logical reasoning ,because it says it shortly come to pass ).
Now, you by pass all these,coming here to validate the Op without quoting any Scripture to debunk my position or prove me wrong (for your info, the Scripture is our proofs, our strength ).
so,You are not sincere,
repent!
God bless you
lol
Christianity Etc › Re: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by paxonel(m): 3:42pm On Mar 29, 2015
johnydon22:
meanwhile these guys are out there discovering things and these ones are here dreaming..

lol... smiley
God bless you for this,
imagin, this is the typical African mindset,
that's why Africa can never be innovative
Christianity Etc › Re: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by paxonel(m):
annyplenty:
Thank you sir for this encouragement. The LORD has asked me that whatever message HE gives me is not for me to keep but to go and share with the world. That is why I cannot hold back, no matter, what the readers and people think about the message and about me. I must that God that HE is even using the messages to bring others back to himself. ALL GLORIES BE TO GOD.

I will not argue with whoever disagrees but if you need an explanation I will provide as God as enabled me. Soon, scorners and unbelievers will realise but it will be too late. God will hold them accountable for not knowing the scripture.

Also, let me also say that there are many agents of the devil on social medias and there assignment is to quickly attack the word and messages of God so that innocent people that want to believe will be thrown into confusion and not believe. Every man shall receive his reward according to his work.

JESUScoming
if everybody begins to say their revelations according to what they think.just like you are doing now , then the bible will be useless.
i have been tempted by emotions to say things like this before, that was when i didn't know bible, but even with that i told myself,let me find out what the bible is saying so that i will not go and contradict bible, that was what kept me from saying what i shouldn't say,
But you, you just they open mouth they talk rubbish,
Na God go judge people like you.
And as many Nigerian pastors who deceived nigerians thereby making this country to become awkward people na God go judge them.
i think your problem is lark of quality education, if it is not so, say one thing you know from the bible , then explain it let's see.
dont make it bulky like your first post o,
My God, your post was so bulky that i didn't know where to start tackling you
i need just one,
i am here now with you
Christianity Etc › Re: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by paxonel(m): 3:12pm On Mar 29, 2015
Etfash:
And again, confusion everywhere.
Op I.e. Annyplenty.. Please keep up the good work. Do not be discouraged! I don't share personal revelations with people anymore except close friends who know me well.

I like your scriptural analysis; I am from the same school of thought. But, I enjoin you to just share the scriptures. Use your dreams in parables to explain certain scriptures to any one that ask you specifically.
rubbish!
no, don't keep your revelation to yourselves,
continue to propagate false revelations and put innocent nigerians in the boundage of fear just like Op
Christianity Etc › Re: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by paxonel(m): 3:08pm On Mar 29, 2015
stevecantrell:
This is a game changer, but not necessarily true.
it may be true, it may not be true, the possibility that it is true is very high, because he recorded the event of Jesus crucifixion from the Scripture i quoted
Christianity Etc › Re: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by paxonel(m): 11:24am On Mar 29, 2015
Hildalicious:
i can see, churches are not teaching people right
that's the point,
they have been playing on our intelligence, especially all churches in Nigeria.
And our OP here is a victim
Christianity Etc › Re: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by paxonel(m): 11:04am On Mar 29, 2015
Hildalicious:
you say there is no end time, can you please explain matthew 13:40 which says, As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.?
By Interpretation of that parable, the tares there means all other religion of the world apart from Christianity, to burn them in fire simply means, they are all rejected by God, only Christianity which is the way (Jesus Christ ) is lifted to the whole world for salvation, Just like moses lifted the serpent in the wilderness.
For instance, the old covenant ended at Jesus resurrection, so end of the world in that Scripture means end of Judaism (old covenant ).
consequently, the beggining of Christianity which started at pentecost
prophet Joel prophesied the day of Pentecost which was 2000 years ago as end time.
Acts 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
2:17 And it shall come to pass in the LAST DAYS (END TIME ), saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Do you see that?
prophets of old where seeing Jesus days as end time and our current day christians are seeing the end time which is suppose to be Jesus days, as our future.
Are we not confused people like that?
Christianity Etc › Re: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by paxonel(m): 9:37am On Mar 29, 2015
gatiano:
What do you call saudi rising against yemen, or usa and the west destroying lives or is it isis(israeli intelligence), or russia in ukraine.
I agree the rapture is not what it means, but it is going to happen and it won't be from GOD, it will be from those that will pose as GOD. example the fake white jesus we have known from our childhood is one of them.

If Jesus of 2000 years ago took all the sins away, why is there now sins a million more severe?
Jesus was sent to warn and remind, so are all the Prophets and Messengers.
We are experiencing earthquakes, hails, sinkholes, stars dropping(stars can't drop into the earth, some stars are way much larger than the entire solar system, this refers to comets, asteriods, flashing lights and satellites which are dropping), fishes and animals are dieing off in billions (soon, there won't be enough to eat, gold won't get a bottle cover of salt), extreme changes in weather pattern... what do you call all this? it did not happen during the time of Jesus.
Why are this things not happening in Africa? yet!
there are whole lot of things you need to understand about how God reason as a spirit.
i can't start telling you now.
if you want to know join Christianity and start going to church
Christianity Etc › Re: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by paxonel(m):
stevecantrell:
So what about the events described in the Revelation by John ? Are these also past tense ?? huh
For God sake, revelation of john was a dream by john, and you know, the angel asked him to write, so he wrote.
it is pass tense now, Revelation is there as a record to confirm what happened at Jesus days.
John 21:24 says This is the disciple(John ) which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.
Jesus also says in Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation(that generation of Jesus 2000 years ago ) shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Revelation 1:1 says The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS ;..
he wrote it 2000 years ago.
is 2000 years a short time?
it's obvious that the book of revelation was even written before Jesus was crucified.
ok, take a look at this Scripture
John 19:35 And he that saw it(i am sure it is John ) bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe
He was even recording the event even at the cross when Jesus was crucified .
So you see, revelation must have been written even before Jesus was crucified.very possible
Today christians are terribly deceived.
They don't think at all.
them be big mumu,
pls, Jesus has come and died and resurrected and gone.
it is finished.
no end time
nothing like rapture,
life continues
Christianity Etc › Re: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by paxonel(m): 8:48am On Mar 29, 2015
please,If you are a Christian, go and enjoy your lives ,reading bible is not a must, before you start misunderstand.
it is better not to read at all than to read and misunderstand
stop making Christianity (Jesus Christ ) a laughing stock by non christians
Christianity Etc › Re: Vision: The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Rapture Is Imminent! by paxonel(m):
annyplenty:
VISION! THE GREAT TRIBULATION HAS BEGUN. RAPTURE IS IMMINENT!

Dear Friend in Christ,

In the early hours of Tuesday, 17th March, 2015, Nigerian time, I had, in a dream, this urgent and important message that The Great Tribulation has begun and that the rapture of the bride of Christ- the true believers that have been washed in the blood of Jesus Christ and are living a holy and righteous life is imminent.

In that dream, I saw that I was on a busy road in the city of Lagos, Nigeria. On the same road, some members of one of the two leading political parties in Nigeria were campaigning for votes for their party in the forthcoming Nigeria’ general election. For the records, I had this dream on Tuesday, 17th March, 2015, and the Nigeria’s General Elections are to hold on 28th March, 2015 and 11th April, 2015.

Then, as I was going, I saw military men in uniform, armed with guns, have invaded the city. It was as if a major chaos had broken out and the soldiers had been released to combat it.

The soldiers started to point guns to people to raise up their two hands to let the soldiers see they were harmless. They pointed the gun to me also. And I raised my left hand up because I was carrying a bag with my right hand. They saw that I was harmless and they allowed me to go. The whole scene was chaotic.

Then, I saw about three or four of my university colleagues sitting on the edge of a gutter in the midst of the pandemonium. They might have been waiting for the pandemonium to calm down or trying to wonder what was happening or for some other reasons. Then, I went straight to meet them and said to them[b] ‘Let me tell you what is happening. The Great Tribulation Has Begun. Any Moment Now, The Rapture Will Take Place’. [/b]

While I said this statement to them, I was fully conscious of what the Scripture says in the book of Revelation that the Bride of Christ will be raptured out of the great tribulation. The dream ended. Then, I woke up.

To bolster this revelation, Let us consider the two scriptures – Revelation 6:12-17 and Revelation 7:9-14.

Revelation 6:12-17
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

The book of Revelation, chapter 6, gives the timeliness of rapture – the chronology of events that must culminate in rapture in sequential order. I encourage you to read it again. It tells us about a book that has seven seals. The Lord, Jesus Christ, must break each of the seven seals. For each seal that He breaks, something significant must happen on earth. Let me recap what will happen for each of the seven seals that He breaks.

First Seal – The spirit of antichrist invades the church of Christ and makes many believers to fall away or out of faith.

Second Seal – Peace is taken away from earth. This results in wars, insurgents, terrorism and violence and so on.

Third Seal – World economy collapses. This results is economic meltdown, unemployment, famine and so on.

Fourth Seal - Death and Hell befall the earth. This results in diseases, earthquakes, plane crashes, other disasters, blood sheds, plagues, and so on.

Fifth Seal – Persecution of the church of Christ and believers begins. That is why we have attacks on churches and believers like the bombing of churches in Nigeria, Kenya and other places by terrorist groups, the recent open beheading of 21 Egyptian Christians in Libya, the attacks on Christians in Iraq, Syria and other places.

Note: On the 23rd May 2013, It was revealed to me, by voice, in a dream that The fifth seal had already been broken. You can read the revelation here.

Sixth Seal – The much prophesied, The Day of the Lord, comes – The Rapture Happens.

Seventh Seal – God begins to pour His wrath on earth. This is why the Bride of Christ has to be escaped (raptured) after breaking the sixth seal so that she will not experience the wrath of God.

I have already done a two-part comprehensive teaching about this book and this chronology in comparison with Mathew, Chapter 24. You can read The part 1 here and the part 2 here

To convince you further that Rapture takes place after the sixth seal will be broken (once again, I say to you that the fifth seal had already been broken), let us compare the underlined items from Revelation, Chapter 6, above, to the underlined items below from Mathew, Chapter 24:29-31 when Jesus Christ was describing how He will send His angel to go and rapture His Bride.

Mat 24:29
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. [/b]

31 [b]And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other
.

Now Let us go to Revelation 7:9-14.

Revelation 7:9-14
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

7:11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

7:12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

From the underlined scripture above, Revelation 7:9, John saw in heaven, a large multitude of people from all parts of the world. These are the people that were raptured after the sixth seal was broken in Revelation, Chapter 6. In Revelation 7:14, John was told that the raptured people that John saw were those that came out of the great tribulation.

So, by inference, we can summarize what the underlined from Revelation, Chapter 7, above, with 3 step sequence below:

1- The great tribulation begins.

2- The Bride of Christ is raptured out of the great tribulation.

3- God begins to pour His undiluted wrath on earth – on those who missed the rapture.

THE MESSAGE

Now, the message of this dream is contained in all the scriptural analyses above and their inferences. If, now, the great tribulation has begun, then the second sequence, which is the rapture, must follow and that is what God is saying, now. The Rapture is imminent.

Since the beginning of this year, 2015, The Lord has been revealing a lot about Post-Rapture events. During worship, The Lord revealed to me, this January, that the time to receive the mark of the beast has come.In another instance, in a dream, He also made me hear the raging voice of the antichrist shout ‘worship me or die’ and also saw some Christians that were persecuted for not worshipping Him. Many other faithful children of God have received similar revelations this year, 2015. This has prompted us to compile all these revelations and others about rapture and rapture-related events and will be posted on our blog, very soon.

If we compare all the events happening all over the world with the scripture – the wars, the terrorisms, the economic collapse, the diseases, the RFID and BVNs, the false prophets, the attacks on churches and believers, the gross immoralities, the blood moons, the bad weathers and so on, we are going to agree that truly the Lord is coming to rapture the church.

JESUS CHRIST is coming. RAPTURE is imminent. Let every man prepare himself in Absolute Repentance, Total Holiness and Righteousness.

Shalom.

JESUScoming
please the bible didn't mentioned rapture anywhere.
what you called the, great tribulation(also known as abomination of desolation where one will be taken to be Jesus disciple and the other left behind.matt 24:20, as Jesus called his disciples saying FOLLOW ME in those days,Luke 5:27,he didn't call everybody, but few ) was a specific event that was prophesied by daniel that it will happen at the time Jesus will come and die(Daniel 9:26).
In matthew 24,read the whole chapter, Jesus was directly quoting out this Daniel's prophecy to his disciples and it was at the very moment the prophecy was fullifiling right at theirs eyes,but they didnt understand what Jesus saying.(remember, Jesus has not yet been crucified when he was saying these things, he was about to be crucified, the time of his crucifixion was near at hand therfore the kingdom of heaven was at hand then at that time,not today.again , today we have the kingdom of heaven already because Christ is now resurrected )
so,great tribution has already happened and pass. it will not happen again,Jesus has come and died he will not come again physically . Jesus will only come again to judge us when we die,the death of men is actually the second coming of Jesus. he has been coming, men has been dying. it is appointed once for men to die after that judgment.
great tribulation was the event Jesus gathered his disciples moving from Galilee to Jerusalem(where Jesus was to be crucified ) as prophesied by Daniel,the Bible recorded it as the worst thing that has happened in the history of
mankind.Mat 24:21
At that time nation rised against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there was famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
it ended the moment Jesus was crucified at Jerusalem.2000 years ago .
this is what John was making as a reference in the book of revelation .
so, Mr OP, go and understand Bible before you contradict Bible with your fake dreams.
lol
Christianity Etc › Re: To Worship God In Spirit And In Truth Is The Easiest Thing To Do On Earth by paxonel(op): 8:22pm On Mar 22, 2015
denisbid:
But you say Christianity is our faith which i know is true, now you are saying Christianity is the kingdom of God
yes, Christianity is our faith, other names used to refer to Christianity in the scriptures are:
The kingdom of heaven or heaven (known as the kingdom of God ) as used by Jesus in all his parables, describing how Christianity will be when Christianity is finally established on earth at his resurrection, he will say, for example in.
Matthew 13:31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven(Christianity ) is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:
another one is:
Matthew 13:33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven(Christianity ) is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.
There was no Christianity on earth when he said these parables.
All these things have meaning,they have been fulfilled today.
other names for Christianity are
THE CHURCH(Matt 16:18),
TRUE WORSHIPPERS(john 4:22),
FAITH(anywhere you find the word FAITH from the book of act to revelation, at this time Jesus has ascended up ),
HEAVEN(believers on earth )
ETERNAL LIFE ON EARTH,
John 17:3 says And this is life eternal, that they might know thee(believe thee ) the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Everybody in Christianity believe in Jesus as God , so everybody in christianity have eternal life in them.
Family › Re: What would be Your Reaction If You Caught Your Child Self Servicing? by paxonel(m): 7:30am On Mar 22, 2015
ohaleoghene:
To me, I won't condemn him or her,but teach the danger of it to such a child,using bible principles ,informing the child how if the act not stopped ,might put s strain on his or her self esteem. I won't tell the child that doing it is abnormal. otherwise,he might begin to think he is abnormal. I will be shock though! what will be your own reaction?
i will simply walk away and scold the child jovially, referring to the act rubbish.
that he should occupy his mind on better things in life
Christianity Etc › Re: How Christianity Was Used To Brainwash Africans Into Submission by paxonel(m): 7:19am On Mar 22, 2015
everybody have the right to be athiests or practice any religion they want. But if you are practicing Christianity, do it right.
All the prayers nigerians have prayed in the past and they are praying till tomorrow, our president even went to Jerusalem.
Do you think God is deaf?
No matter your prayer if we don't do the right thing like taking education seriously, and power also, your prayers are all useless exercise
Christianity Etc › Re: How Christianity Was Used To Brainwash Africans Into Submission by paxonel(m): 7:03am On Mar 22, 2015
lastmessenger:
Christianity is not the problem of Africa. We can rise up to become great to the envy of the whole world.
We are a great people and God made it so. All we need to do is to sincerely return back to our maker and ask him to help us to achieve greatness. Our leaders need a change of heart and the followers also need a change of heart.
Africa will be great and will be known as the continent that fears God.
Christianity Etc › Re: To Worship God In Spirit And In Truth Is The Easiest Thing To Do On Earth by paxonel(op): 8:39pm On Mar 21, 2015
osazeet:
True Spirituality unites while religion separate us with diverse doctrines and dogmas. There is a whatsapp group chat on esoteric free thinkers join us today.08023511703, come and learn through this group, the age of awakening has arrived.
that's true!
religion seperates while true spirituality unites.
For christians, true spirituality should be the acceptance that Christianity is one.
But nigerian christians are not interested in promoting one Christianity.
All they promote is their church and pastors
Christianity Etc › Re: To Worship God In Spirit And In Truth Is The Easiest Thing To Do On Earth by paxonel(op): 8:14pm On Mar 21, 2015
torchwave:
You said... The implication of your statement without moral qualification suggests the absence of regard of the morality or otherwise of the source of one's happiness. In addition, it suggests the selfish scale of preference of one's happiness before others while Christ taught the opposite. Christ taught His disciples to serve others, to be their brothers' keepers. He said those who lose their lives will save it and those who save it will lose it. He said His disciples will be known by their love for each other, not to mention other instructions besides the Gospels to pursue the interests of others and not just ours and you know, if you don't know then know, that love places the happiness of others on its first scale of preference.

Let me remind you what you wrote... If the bolded do not nullify the great importance of church gathering for which Jesus Christ appointed the five fold ministry of the Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers for the equipping of the saints, for the work of the ministry and the edifying of the body, then what does it do? Are you saying that accepting Christ as Saviour has made the offices of the ministry so less important that they can be done away with? Are you wiser than Jesus Christ who created those offices in the church so that people should not be tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrine and trickery of men in their deceitful plotting? Read Ephesians 4.

Not disputing that. Worship goes beyond gathering. It is a lifestyle. We were created to worship. To prove my point, Romans 12:1 says, 'I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.' It is a lifestyle of purity in worshipping God.

Worship, like I said, is a lifestyle. It is an act of communion with God. When the Bible said we should pray without ceasing, it meant we should live a lifestyle of worship. As an act it is not limited to one particular activity for which the well known act of singing comes to mind. Worship is way much more than that. True worship is vast. We worship God by thinking about Him, by doing everything as if we are doing them for Him such as doing laundry, eating, drinking, going to work, helping people in need, sleeping, waking, making calls, receiving calls, writing a book, crossing the street, reading, etc etc as long as they are acceptable to God or they do not violate the commandments of God, by practicing the Word of God, by praying, by acknowledging the Presence of God beside you or in you, by being a servant to others, by showing love to people...etc. That is true worship. That is worship in spirit and in truth. As an act it is not limited to church gathering.

I have made my point. It is not a state of being especially to the exclusion of conscious action of reverence to God.
Therefore, you will simply see Biblical instructions for holy living and pleasing God such as renewing the mind, wearing the full armour of God, forgiving those who offend us, reconciling with those we are not in good terms with, crucifying the flesh, living for others and not self, abstaining from every appearance of evil, fighting the good fight of faith, giving up the things that hinder us from making heaven and a good number of such instructions that are capable of saving the soul from eternal damnation as pieces of advice that can be discarded if they do not suit your needs or as instructions for new converts in Christianity because we are 'educated'? What education are you referring to by the way, secular or Biblical? Are you aware that not everyone is literate so that they need people, especially pastors to guide them? Are you also aware that many literates do not understand so many instructions in the Bible therefore they need someone to guide them such as Pastors or Apostles or Prophets or Teachers or Evangelists?

Knowing that Jesus is the Way is not the same thing as walking in the Way. Op, your teachings are riddled with so many errors
no error my friend,
its for the learned to understand,
primitive minds can't understand my post.
For them to understand, they must first understand that that we are saved by our religion Christianity which is our faith and not by works.
the Bible says the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith, that is, from religion to religion.
it was Judaism first (old covenant ),and now it is Christianity (new covenant )
They must understand that we are saved to worship and worship is our life, not singing in church.
Thank God you say you are not disputing that. Worship goes beyond gathering,We were created to worship.
But the one you say lifestyle, it is wrong to say worship is lifestyle.
Nobody on earth has the right lifestyle, everybody on earth commit sin.
But we are saved by grace, that is how we were made worship, our name is now worship.(worship was verb in old testament and noun in the new covenant )
That is how Jesus kept the fire burning in us continually, non stop, till we die. As God commanded Leviticus that the fire of the alter should not be quenched.
therefore worship is a continous entity and not mere praying or prayer. that will end within one hour.
Our body is. now a greater alter with unquenchable worship through Christ.
Therefore church going is of no use to those who already know how to keep the 10 commandments except they are still learning to do so. Your Pastors or Apostles or Prophets or Teachers or evangelists are there to groom illiterates like you rightly say .
unfortunately, most Nigerian christians are still illiterates of the bible inspite all their church going. Common Christianity as the kingdom of God on earth they don't know.
That's why pastors are exploiting them
Christianity Etc › Re: To Worship God In Spirit And In Truth Is The Easiest Thing To Do On Earth by paxonel(op): 6:46pm On Mar 21, 2015
Horus:
Ethics?, where is the ethics in keeping your own people mentally trapped under the religions of the opressors?. We acknowledge all others spiritual forces except our own. We Embrace all other religions and cultures except for our own rooted in Africa.
some African values are not subjected to ethics,African religions did not solve the problem. while the western education and culture enjoys great proliferation in this modern day life, due to the ethical preference that is associated with their values.
But africans imitate the western culture and adopt their religion without considering ethics, this lead to our people being mentally trapped and oppressed to this modern day
Christianity Etc › Re: To Worship God In Spirit And In Truth Is The Easiest Thing To Do On Earth by paxonel(op): 1:41pm On Mar 17, 2015
Horus:
We should only worship our own images. You Africans are the original people of the planet earth yet you are following other races view as to who or what god is according to them. We are here to drive people back to their ancestors.
whatever you do or believe, let ethics be your watch word.
ethics governs all tribes or race, be it black or white or whatever
Christianity Etc › Re: How Christianity Was Used To Brainwash Africans Into Submission by paxonel(m):
thoth:
@paxonel
How exactly did the missionaries got it wrong ? can you elaborate on just one example with as much detail as you can ?
you know, our African traditions believe in fiction,juju, spiritualism and diabolism a lot, even before Christianity came. So, it was easy for the missionaries to make Africans believe that the kingdom of God is something spiritual beyond the clouds.meanwhile, the bible says the kingdom of God(Jesus ) is in you.
Also, they made us to believe that we can get miracles/prosperity from pastors prayers(that prayers will move mountain without touching it ) without working(touching something to do).
But meanwhile, prayers can only move mountain if God will and want it to happen. And God want us to work, mountain will be moved.
And because we were diabolical spiritual people,we don't take education seriously, we don't think, we believe this lie.
Note that we still don't have good schools in Nigeria, our universities are rated very low (check webometric ranking)
the first thing they did was to make African christians believe they are seperated from Jesus, that they are not the kingdom of God on earth, that the kingdom of God is beyond the clouds, let us continue to wait for rapture, and not to work hard on earth and fight for our right .
And for us to attend the kingdom (which we already have ) we must continue going to church and give our last money to pastors and pray hard for it.
that's why we go to church like mad people,
But inspite all the churches and mosque the economy is bad.
meanwhile, in Britain and in America, christians know that the kingdom is inside them. what they need to be happy on earth is to learn, work hard and make their money for themselves,share with the poor,fight for their right and enjoy.
But we are here suffering in Africa. The rich cannot share with the poor until they are called oga oga
Christianity Etc › Re: To Worship God In Spirit And In Truth Is The Easiest Thing To Do On Earth by paxonel(op): 11:41am On Mar 17, 2015
denisbid:
But one of the commandments says, keep the Sabbath holy
that was for the Jews, because the Jews had the old covenant which elapsed(ended ) the moment Jesus resurected, ushering us gentiles to the new covenant with them that believe
Christianity Etc › Re: To Worship God In Spirit And In Truth Is The Easiest Thing To Do On Earth by paxonel(op): 11:21am On Mar 17, 2015
torchwave:
Op, worshipping God in truth and spirit means worshipping Him in the beauty of holiness. The Father seeks those with pure hearts to worship Him. It is an act, not a state of being as you wrongly opined.

It is heresy to say being 'worship' nullifies the need for the gathering of believers and that happiness is our primary goal no matter the source. This is demonic doctrine. The Bible commands that WE SHOULD NOT FORSAKE THE GATHERING OF THE BELIEVERS. As well, Jesus gave the greatest commandment which is to love God and our neighbours and love sacrifices its happiness for that of others.

Moreover, when one becomes born again, his or her spirit is transformed, regenerated automatically but we are commanded to worship God with psalms and songs and by lifting holy hands.

Op, all you've said are contrary to the Word of God.
this is the problem with we nigerians, we don't reason logically.
i didn't put no matter the source in my statement,happiness is our first priority.
i didn't say worship nullify the need for gathering, i never condemned gathering. i even say we gathered to learn the bible which is good .
But my point is, worship has nothing to do with gathering or place of worship(as it was called before the crucifixion of Jesus ) .
remember, Jesus made this statement before he was crucified.
John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh(the hour after crucifixion ), when ye shall neither in this mountain(the place of worship for the samaritans in those days ), nor yet at Jerusalem(the temple of the Jews at Jerusalem in those days ), worship the Father.
so you see, worship can never be act, because everything you do inside church(equivalent to temple ) is act.
act is physical motion of the flesh activities whether in church or anywhere,and not anything spirit.
the bible says what is flesh is flesh and what is spirit is spirit. that means flesh has nothing to do with spirit.
consequently, worship has nothing to do with church.
John 4:22 talked about the true worshipers,
who are the true worshippers?
the true worshippers are christians after Christ was crucified.
these are the people Jesus meant.
All of us in christianity.
Therefore, to worship is simply people(people with a state of being christians and not any other religion )and not any church activity.
it's takes high level of logical reasoning to understand it and be free from religion.
please, not forsake the gathering of the believers is not a commandment.
we all know what commandments are:
commandments are laws to help us from commiting sin, not laws to force us into church going.
commandments are, thou shall not kill, killing is a sin.
thou shall not lie
thou shall not bear false witness etc.
Because if you do this things there are purnishment for it.
i didn't see do not forsake the gathering among them.
therefore, i will simply see do not forsake the gathering as advice, not commandment. there was a reason, to encourage primitive new converts in those days to remain in the faith .
But today, there are millions of christians worldwide, we are educated now,we don't need that kind of encouragement.
we just know that Jesus is the way, not Muhammad.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Christianity Was Used To Brainwash Africans Into Submission by paxonel(m):
we are people in contradiction to the natural human instinct because of the false teachings that was once delivered to Africa by the British missionaries.
the fault is from african traditional beliefs But instead of Christianity and Islam solving the problem, they take the aspect of the Bible and quran that suites our faulty traditions to teach Africans, in order to make Christianity and Islam acceptable to us.
meanwhile, the British citizens,Saudi Arabia united arab emirates etc, practice the same religions and are morally sound and industrialised.
i think we africans are the most foolish people on earth.
But it's never too late, we christians can go back to the basics and identify where the missionies got it wrong and do the correction from there.
But which pastor in Nigeria is taking the bold step to do that?
no one

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