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 Christianity Etc › Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(op): 4:48pm On Mar 03, 2015 |
abitex577:change this your orientation. it is called the Nigerian orientation and it is invalid scripturally. everybody who go to church are all from christian homes or do you see Muslims in church? no. accepting Jesus as your lord and Savior is the same thing as, you were once a Muslim or atheist or in another religion apart from Christianity. Then someone preached to you and you accepted to join Christianity. The moment you accepted to join Christianity (become a Christian ) you have accepted Jesus as your lord and personal saviour. so, salvation is all about change of religion. and if you have children ofcourse you will groom them to become christians like you, they will not be Muslims. By this. they are all saved. this is how it apply to reality and how is in the Bible. not what Nigerian pastors are teaching. By the way, living your life according to God's word is not feasible assuming God's word says we should live our lives without commiting sin. because everybody commit sin. therefore we are all saved by grace, that grace is simply becoming a Christian 3 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Acts Of Genuine Faith by paxonel(m): 2:31pm On Mar 03, 2015 |
FreshGreen:let's talk here, so that others will learn, i agree with your view that faith is not just for miracles, But the main thing is for us to have eternal life. But what you say that faith without works is death means, we should go and work to be saved, which implies that Christ didn't die. i think you are wrong there. or are you saying faith without works is dead means we are justified by both faith and works, contradicting Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds(works ) of the law. and Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. just know that people are getting knowledge everyday. you African churches can't continue to mislead people with this your work thing. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(op): 9:10am On Mar 03, 2015 |
Proximo73:those that go to church and those who don't go are not different in the eyes of God |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(op): 6:48am On Mar 03, 2015 |
LOVEGINO:yehh! na gode |
| Christianity Etc › Every Church-Goer Is Automatically A Child Of God. How True Is This Statement? by paxonel(op): 6:42am On Mar 03, 2015 |
No matter the church,if you were born into a christian home, whether you are a Catholic or Protestantor aladurah or whatever, Christ don't care.so long you believe in him whom God has sent, which is Jesus Jesus Christ.you are automatically saved.so, all these your religious activities in church is just vanity.just live your life, love everybody (non christians alike ) and enjoy yourself.this is your greatest calling 8 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Must I Go To Church On Sunday by paxonel(m): 6:29am On Mar 03, 2015 |
sugarcanebaby:yeah! Jesus says, the greatest law is not going to church,the greatest laws are love. 1 thou shall love God (by believing in Christ in the context of Christianity the new covenant which you have already done by being a Christian and not a Muslim, because we are justified by our faith Christianity ). 2, thou shall love your neighbour(everybody ) as yourself (keeping the 10 commandments or the law ) it's for our own good. no 1 has nothing to do with no 2. we are saved by no 2, not no1 think over it and be free from church going or religion |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Must I Go To Church On Sunday by paxonel(m): 1:50am On Feb 28, 2015 |
sugarcanebaby:you say you are a baby Christian that you need to learn? now learn this and be wiser than all pastors and church goers in Nigeria and set yourself free. as much as going to church is important to learn, God is not interested in church going. infact, there is no church in heaven. so, whether you go or not it is still the same thing, don't feel bad that your job is taking your time. that your job is far more important than church. you believe in Christ and love your neighbor that's all, you don't have any problem you don't need church |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 1:36am On Feb 28, 2015 |
Hildalicious:that's true! pastors were suppose to guide us, but they are not doing it to the direction of the Bible, they do it to the direction of their understanding and most of these men are not even educated enough to understand Bible so, it's a big disadvantage to Nigeria as a Nation 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 4:42pm On Feb 23, 2015 |
Hildalicious:did you see my last post @myproperty? just read it lol |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 7:08pm On Feb 22, 2015 |
myproperty:thank God you now know that heaven has descended on earth. i know that people know this truth deep right inside them, But they just want to argue because the truth is contradicting the lie of rapture they have been hearing in church. they don't want to see their pastors as liars but in the true sense, they are. there is never a place in revelation that tells us that all the things written there will happen in our future. is there anything like that? please show me. on the contrary, it says it will shortly come to pass, Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS... meaning, it will shortly happen in that generation the revelation was revealed to John of that generation, who wrote it immediately. you people don't consider time when you read bible so, i put it to you that everything about the revelation has been fulfilled. don't go and start enjoying your lives and stop putting yourselves in unnecessary boundage of fear |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 6:42pm On Feb 22, 2015*. Modified: 7:16pm On Feb 22, 2015 |
Hildalicious:it's is not one day o, it took me almost seven months to do the research. i wasn't satisfied with what pastors were teaching i have to read the whole new testament from Matthew to revelation repeatedly, almost 13 times, before i could come up with something. what actually opened my eyes was when i went through Romans 10:1 where Paul said i wish that Israel should be saved, pointing that salvation is all about the religion. from that time i started reading it from Matthew again as if i have never read new testament in my life before. it was like i was playing puzzle. i was picking the pieces of the tiles logically and meticulously. that was how i finally understood everything. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 6:30pm On Feb 22, 2015 |
Iceflox:exactly! that's how they wait for their pastors and church members to commend them before they know that what they are doing is right. that's why pastors will not call them christians until they see that they are doing the right thing. they are controlled by the law |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 9:47am On Feb 22, 2015 |
FrancisTony:that's true! everyone will be judged according to. their deeds.. Revelation 20:12 says And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. note: that it was the dead that were judged. that means, each time we die ( the coming of Jesus ), Jesus will come and carry out this for everybody. also, note that two different category of books were opened. 1. the books that contain the deeds of everybody when they were alive on earth, where in they were judged according to their works. 2. the book of life ( the book that contain the names of all christians simply because they believe only, not by their works ) 20:15 says, And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire( the second death which is the real death, the first death is just sleep ). meaning, those whose names found in the book of life will resurect and come back to life, this time with a different body, see 1cor 15:35 down. where you see that God created different kind of body, both therestial and cosmos bodies. and he give to people body according to his will 1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. resurrection of the death here on earth is real. eternal life is real. this trend has been going on and on since 2000 years ago since Christ resurrected. you people don't know. you will die and resurrected and die and resurrected and die and resurrected ( the concept of aboundant life ).. you don't know what Christ did for you when he resurrected. Na God go judge una pastors for not telling you people the truth. yet they are collecting money from you people every Sunday. you people read Bible you don't see lol. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 8:20am On Feb 22, 2015 |
myproperty:you see, this is one of the reason i came up with this tread. how can man see in the scripture heaven on earth (for him to come up with this theme, that means he must have seen something like this in the Scripture ) at the same time begin to ask church members questions like if you want to make heaven in the future when the trumpet shall sound?( making heaven on earth null and void ) is that not contradiction? it's true that the Scripture talked about the coming of Christ, But like i said Christ has been coming to judge men everyday. people die everyday, it is appointed once for men to die, after that judgement. as for sound of the trumpet, quote the place out in the Scripture let's see. i am not saying there is no sound of the trumpet in the Scripture, just show were it is written. i will tell you that white men who brought Christianity to Africa are not mumu like us lol. you see this country called Nigeria, na God go judge this country |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 7:34am On Feb 22, 2015*. Modified: 10:09am On Feb 22, 2015 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 4:36pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
FrancisTony:lol read through all i have posted, you will get the Biblical verse you want, i wont go through the verses again. if people say they are saved the best you can do is take it by their word or leave it. you can't judge them that they are not saved by their action. for everybody including you commit sin too. if you are saved, you are already in heaven, if you are in heaven, you are already saved. it's like saying, if you are in class 5, you are already in ss2. the same thing, But different description |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 4:14pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
simplex2:read the whole philppians 2, the whole chapter again and get the understanding. for instance, if you look at the preceding verse which is verse 11. Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. so,work out your salvation simply means to hold your believe in Christ strong, that he is lord to the glory of the father, so that nobody will deceive you that Jesus is not lord, that is the only way you will remain saved. because, at that time they had issues among the brethren that makes them complain, issues that was capable to make some of the brethren disbelieve and also,because the jews went among the brethren to deceive them that Jesus is not the Messiah. the is why Paul told them, work out your salvation.. Paul is not a mad person to say in verse 11, that everything tongue should confess that Jesus is lord, then the next chapter in 12, he begin to say go and work so that you will be saved( assuming this is what he meant ) then, the next chapter 13, without telling them what they should work, he begin to say something like For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. it doesn't sound a sensible speech. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 3:36pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
if you are asked are you saved? i am sure your answer will be yes, you are saved. why is the question not always like this. are you going to be saved. since you think heaven is in the future? why will oyedepo of winners chapel will say heaven on earth? don't you think heaven is on earth already? that heaven is in you.? think |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 3:34pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
myproperty:if you are asked are you saved? i am sure your answer will be yes, you are saved. why is the question not always like this. are you going to be saved. since you think heaven is in the future? why will oyedepo of winners chapel will say heaven on earth? don't you think heaven is on earth already? that heaven is in you.? think |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 2:59pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
FrancisTony:the African doctrines the missionaries brought need changes, it wasnt based on reasoning, therefore it need change or africans remain in perpetual bondage. what africans refuses to see is john6:29, Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God(the definite article there is THE WORK, that means, there is only one work to do ), that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.(that's all ). so, all we need to do is believe only. go back to your Bible and look at it again. Paul confirmed this in Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds(works ) of the law. the law is the 10 commandments, thou shall not kill, thou shall not lie etc and James says if you break one of these laws you have break it all. so, there is no way we can be righteous on our own, don't try to be fanatic. for this reason Christ came to die so that we can be freely justified. you are telling me i am saying heresy. this is the same thing Paul said and the they slanderlously say he was saying heresy,teaching people to go and commit sin , just like you doing now to me. Romans 3:8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just. please we are not encouraging people to break the law and commit sin. we are saying that, now that you know you are freely justified, use your conscience to abstain from sin. don't wait for any law to guide you. if we go and commit sin, then we will suffer the consequence like anyone else here on earth. faith without work is dead (dead in that we will suffer the consequence of our sin, not that we will loose our salvation which was given to us freely ), God is not human that will give gift to people and later take it back from them. it takes logical reasoning to understand this thing 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 1:48pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
FrancisTony:point out just one Scripture i twisted and make the correction let's see whether your own will be sensible. you can't. you are using the word heresy without proving whether there is heresy there or not. the Bible writers are not mad people. they made very sensible and logical argument which those whose developed this current doctrine modern day christians are using today refuses to see. that's why you people read Bible you don't see. because you abandoned logical reasoning. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 11:34pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
oaroloye:he made all these statement before he was crucified, we are updated with standards after the resurrection which is grace. Jesus is not a fanatic, Jesus teaches love and love people. fanatics hate people in disguise of religion 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 11:07pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
myproperty:all these Matthew you quoted are statements made by Jesus before he was crucified. there is time for everything. there was time or era before Christ resurrected (judaism) and there is era after the resurrection where we christians belong. these two era are not the same. so, bible is a book of two different religions. not everyone That called him lord lord means, not all Jesus disciples will see the kingdom of God which is Christianity .because the disciples called him lord lord. judas Iscariot didn't see it, John the Baptist didn't see it, infact only 120 disciples out of 5000 who eat 5 loaves and fishes saw it. act 1:15 But all christians are now in Christianity or the kingdom,.far better than disciples because of his crucifixion. So he wasn't talking to christians when he made that statement. he was talking to his disciples , infact, there was no Christianity then. Christ has not yet been crucified. Jesus even told his disciples in Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. that is, strive to hold your believe in me until it is time for me to be crucified and resurrected. 13:25 says When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: so, the time before resurrection is without (outside ) while the time after resurrection is within (inside ). Matthew 25:32. The separation is between Christianity and other religion. it is done already. 2 cor 5:10, we are always judged at our death. all christians back to life, non Christians to lake of fire, see revelation. it is appointed for men to die, after that, judgment. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 10:10pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
simplex2:they are Jews in Christianity, not Jews in Judaism. Christians didn't work to get their salvation. those that are working are ignorant. they don't know they have it already 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 9:57pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
FrancisTony:baptism or believe,, it's still the same thing. mention one place in the bible that define unbelievers as people who commit sin.? on the contrary, Jesus says in. John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep let me explain this parable, before Jesus was crucified he was the door or the way and his disciples were the sheepfold. becausse the jews believed that judaism is the only religion men can go to God.. But Jesus told them,i am the way,not Judaism. After he resurrected he founded Christianity. and Judaism and it's old covenant was rejected. to climb up some other way is trying to by pass Christianity to God through judaism and other religion. By so doing, his religion is a thief. Therefore, Christianity is now the door or the only way to God and we christians are the sheepfold. so, everybody in Christianity are saved. everybody in Christianity are believers dictionary meaning correspond to this bible view. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 5:37am On Feb 20, 2015 |
Iceflox:ahahaaahaaaa. lol. you don come again. the cause is misinterpretations, of the quran and bible. you see, what is happening in Islam is also happening in Christianity. the good thing is that, christians don't use their own to kill people |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 5:14am On Feb 20, 2015 |
denisbid:you ask very intelligent question, i like you. see, that very day Jesus was prophesying. what he was saying was a prophesy that was already written about him and what will happen during the period when the Messiah will be crucified. the prophesy must have said, this is what will happen IN THOSE DAYS when the Messiah will come. as Jesus was talking, it's like, he was directly quoting the prophesy that IN THOSE DAYS (that is, in this generation ) And the people of that generation were listening, they didn't know that he was that Messiah that is to come. so, he was prophesying what will happen, meanwhile, the fulfilment of the prophesy was happening right there in their eyes, they didn't know. apart from the persecution of christians which happened after the resurrection, all the rumors of wars, earthquake, deceptions, crucifixion, great tribulation, one taken, the other left behind ( what is confusing modern day christians that they are saying it is rapture) was happening right there in that generation Christ came to die. after telling them everything, he said. Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. so, everything happened in that generation. not in the future. it was after the resurrection that Christ open their eyes to see all these things, that it just happened. 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 3:36am On Feb 20, 2015 |
FrancisTony:John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God(the definite article there is THE WORK, that means, there is only one work to do ), that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.(that's all ) Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. so, your only duty as christian is to believe in Jesus which you have already done when you were brought up from a Christian home , that's all. every other additional thing you do is religious fanatism 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 5:23pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
FrancisTony:whether you take me seriously or not, it doesn't change the truth. it is everywhere in the new testament. what i am talking about is grace, the truth is, we are all saved by grace, and not by works. the book of Romans has plenty to confirm this. Grace is, just believe, thats all. if you work, you are just cheating yourself. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 5:10pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
timonski:it depend on what you mean. if you mean that the world is bad right now, then you are correct. But things will not continue like that, gradually people are getting knowledge and understanding. thousands of years from now, the world will become a better place. we will all see it like that, all christians. do you know that we will never die? lol |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 4:55pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
denisbid:the great tribulation is what i just explained. the disciples following Christ. the tribulation was the journey from Galilee to Jerusalem the disciples went through by following Jesus. they abandoned all that they had (peter says we have left all and follow thee) and went through the harsh condition of the wilderness. the bible desribed that event as the worst in the history of mankind Matthew 24:21. immediately after the great tribulation, Christ was crucidied. this is what happened during the crucifixion, check your Bible and confirm this. then,immediately after that tribulation matt 24:29 says SHALL THE SUN BE DARKENED,the moon shall not give her light, the stars shall fall from heaven (all these point to one thing that THERE WILL BE DARKNESS) Luke 23:44 confirmed this when Christ was crucified . And it was about the sixth hour(6am early in the mourning ), and there was a DARKNESS over all the earth until the ninth hour.(9am in the morning ) also, earthquake was mentioned. AND THE POWERS OF THE HEAVENS SHALL BE SHAKENED (this signifies EARTHQUAKE ) and truly, there was earthquake when Christ was crucified. Matthew 27:51.confirmed this. And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; AND THE EARTH DID QUAKE , and the rocks rent all these things happened after the disciples followed Jesus on a long journey to Jerusalem. that journey is the great tribulation. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Belief That Not Everybody In Christianity Are Saved, Is Fanatism by paxonel(op): 1:08pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
johnydon22:exactly |
), arm-robbering, back-biting etc, with the hope they would make heaven after death.1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ... 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 (of 250 pages)