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myk2mic:
bros, Peter had no idea of what was happening,it was the pple who believed that his shadow cld heal(just like the woman with the issue of blood) so they placed sick pple along his path while he jejely walked by.

I didn't say he had an idea, peter was a believer, and according to the bible, one common thing with believers is that they are followed by signs.

Earth2Metahuman:
what do you do to drugs that have been abused?

Please name this good religions have done?

You are kidding right?
Philanthropy alone sums up everything. Wouldn't want to say much, besides this is not the purpose of the thread.

Earth2Metahuman:
and you think faith and work is literal?

Point is religions encourage absurdities. Let's not deviate from the topic.

Religions, especially christianity and islam should be discouraged in africa and let people embrace realistic way of life.
It has become our own cocaine.

well that's your opinion, religion has done more good than harm, and wrong interpretation of religious doctrines by it adherents as well as abuse of religious practices is what has made people develop wrong view about religion.


The same could be said of science, the fact that people abuse drugs, does not mean that buying and selling of drugs should be banned, Like Ive said before, religion is not our problem, we should focus more on our problems rather than making unnecessary blames.

ZirdoRoray:
what is your conviction for being a monotheist? You were brought up in monotheism, right?

I was brought up a monotheist, however an irreligious one, I could as well have been an atheist. As I grew older I've had reasons to take the religion I was raised in seriously, however i can't discuss them here.

Earth2Metahuman:
bible said, if you have mustard seed faith, you can move mountain. It didn't say, if you have mustard seed faith and bulldozers, you can move mountain. Read your bible.

And you think the mountain He was talking about was literal.

ZirdoRoray:
There are several factors for the depreciative state of the nation and the world at large; religion being one and those who are passionate about this particular aspect of existence will voice more of their concens, convictions, fascinations and knowledge on this incredibly mind-enslaving phenomenon. ARE YOU A POLYTHEIST?

No I'm not.

Earth2Metahuman:
so the bible is the problem right? Hence the religion?

There are no contradictions here, the Bible instructed that we have faith. but also advised us not to neglect our responsibilities. so there's no excuse for laziness on the part of Christians.

soberdrunk:
You might want to read the topic of the thread again. "Nigerias's"

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I've edited it, meanwhile you can carryout your research now will you?

Earth2Metahuman:
I'm not here to discuss christianity, but what makes you right and the kids that think have a faith the size of mustard seed can make him pass without effort wrong?
Isn't that in the same bible?

But the bible also told them that Faith without work is dead.

soberdrunk:
................because never have we heard that a group of "atheists" burnt, killed or harmed anyone for "Not believing"

You might want to do some research on Luigi Galleani and his likes.

Earth2Metahuman:
but you already said some people are practising it wrong? Or am I missing something?

So yours is right and they are wrong.

Read the post again, You gave an example of a student who believed he could pass by praying without studying, and I said that, it does not conform with the teachings of Christianity, The Christian doctrine admonishes it adherents to study to show themselves approved, So when people see someone like that they erroneously assume, that he is doing so because his religion instructed him to.


Which is why I said he is going about it wrongly,,I can't remember mentioning any other religion in my post apart from Christianity.

Earth2Metahuman:
and christianity doesn't also encourage doing the impossible through prayer and faith?
Plus who made you the judge of right or wrong way of practising any religion?

I don't need to be a judge to know what my religion teaches and does not.

Earth2Metahuman:
Corruption is the major reason why things aren't working. E.g infrastructures, basic amenities e.t.c

Religion/superstition is the major reawhy africa is super backward mentally.
E.g thinking, human skull can make you reach or praying to a jweish/arab unknown gods can make you pass exam without studying or cure sickle sell.

Your assertions are simply based on assumptions, anything, absolutely anything can be practiced wrongly, Christianity for example does not encourage praying without studying, so get your facts right. Religion is not the problem in that case its laziness.

Something, I've noticed on this section, is that Atheists Agnostics, and other forms of religious critics, omit Nigeria's major problems like corruption, intolerance among ethnic groups, juvenile delinquency and the likes, instead they capitalize on religion as the cause of the backwardness of this country, And my question is how really is religion our problem?

urheme:
How many faith did Naama show case....when asked to dip himself in the Jordan river.....the shadow of peter healed people..was the faith on peter or on God

Funny, Naama, demonstrated his faith by doing what he was asked to do, because faith without work is dead.


Peter believed, that's why his shadow healed people( according to the bible, signs will only follow those that believe)

The best course to study in Nigeria right now is ANATOMY, thanks.

urheme:
God heals irrespective of your faith or prayers...He chooses whom He will have mercy on...even the disciples of Jesus lived with afflictions...
2 cor 12 vs 7 - 9

Affliction is something that is common to everyone, infact the life of a christian is full of challenges, but the fact that the disciples of Christ went through affliction does not mean that, they didn't pray by faith, and that their prayers were not answered based on their faith.
Alright I'd like you to help me answer these questions.

1. when peter prayed for the crippled man at the gate called beautiful, was it done in faith?

2. If faith is not needed for prayers to be answered then what is the use of faith?

I'm afraid, your opinion about faith and prayer negates Heb 11:6

ponti93:
what? If prayers where not meant to work in every case, why pray at all... So prayer is now lyk gamblin...

I explained why I said so in the second post.

Rexceedo:
More grace to your life.... Ijn!

Amen sir, God bless.

kay9:
First you need faith. Then you need "levels" of faith. But at the same time you only need a mustard seed-size of faith... *smh*

Just look at yourself and your hapless argument.

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We do not only need the mustard seed size of faith, the disciples had that kind of faith when they tried to heal the child who was sick of an ailment but couldn't,.


Like I said before the mustard seed kind of faith can move mountains, however mountains are in sizes.

Lagusta:
prayers have not, and will never work....

its only evidence based medicine that works....

prayer can never miraculously cure cancer, or diabetes, or HIV, or sickle cell disease....

let me narrate my own story

I thought you were a muslim, or do Muslims not believe in miracles.

hopefulLandlord:
mustard seed bro

mustard seed

BTW, who needs the faith? the patient? the "healer"? the viewers? or all 3?

There was a story of a boy In the bible, who had an ailment, the disciples tried to heal him but their efforts proved abortive. When Jesus came He called them Men of little faith( not men of no faith).

The mustard seed kind of faith is capable of moving mountains, but mountains are in sizes.

Seun:
Consider the millions of people all over the world who have prayed for ISIS to be wiped out. Is it really possible that not one of them has faith?

According to the Bible, Faith is not just a requirement, it is also in levels, it is possible, someone that has faith have prayed for the Annihilation of ISIS, but it is unlikely for Him/her to possess the degree of faith to make it come to pass.


However there are things that must happen as confirmation that the world is near its end. Maybe ISIS Is just one of them, and if it is, no amount of prayer can change it.

CatfishBilly:
I'm yet to see a single case where prayers changed the Patient's fortunes. If I see one, trust me, I'll post it here. I really want to believe, but all I see all around me is evidence otherwise.
Which part of the Bible says that Prayer wasn't meant to work in every case?

what I meant was that according to the bible, the requirement prayer needs to guarantee answers is Faith. So Prayer doesn't get answered in every case, because not everyone who "appears" to have faith really does.

Op did some cherry picking, what about those that were prayed for and got healed? Prayer was never meant to work in every case.
Just as you said, you do not have the ability to measure faith, People can appear to have faith whereas within, they're doubters.

Marvel1206:
OK but

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I was strolling with my last f*ck on leash on this thread earlier when Op ambushed me and held me at Knifepoint. "Give me your f*ck!" He thundered. I was already trembling, different thoughts ran through my mind. "What will i tell my parents when i get home" Among others. But then my life is more important than a f*ck. Op was becoming more aggresive now so i had to make a quick decision. I looked behind my back and saw my f*ck with teary eyes, she nodded in disapproval as though she was saying "Pls don't do this" .

"Which kind wahala be dis now" i said to myself. "Look!" i shouted at the Op while pointing my hand into an empty space behind his back, as soon as he turned his head, i grabbed my f*ck and made a run for it. He chased us but we were able to outrun him. Few mins later, i was already sitting under a shed with my f*ck on my laps. I patted her and kissed her forehead. "It's alright dear, i almost gave you out today on a useless thread for that matter"
She smiled sheepishly and rested on my arms.
That was how i protected my last f*ck from being giving on this thread

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LoL, sarcasm taken to a whole new level.

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ok , is this suppose to be an achievement.

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ojibole:
hahaha I dey tell u. if some African leaders come out with their illegal money ehn even bill Gates sef go fear

which of the bill gates?