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Pastafarian:
there's a difference between rejecting a belief and rejecting god

you reject belief in Vishnu, that doesn't mean you can say with 100% certainty that Vishnu doesn't exist

you reject belief in all other gods except one, that doesn't mean you're saying all the other gods don't exist at all!

rejecting existence and rejecting belief aren't the same things

benzics:
Lol.. It matters a lot! We've all got one shot at life, and harming somebody against his will is wrong!!

Pastafarian:
I don't reject the "Existence" of gods, same way I don't reject the existence of a pink unicorn playing with a diamond the size of a man somewhere in a planet 3Billion light years away from us

what I reject however is the belief in such gods

I hope I'm clear enough?

Pastafarian:
prove your god created the world

anyone can spin tales about something unknown, doesn't mean it should be accepted as true on the basis that it can't be disproven

can you prove that the Flying Spaghetti Monster didn't create the universe and everything in it?

see?

what's unknown is unknown and should remain unknown not filling it with a "god" and claiming it as fact

benzics:
We, humans! Because it causes HARM! You may say some people don't agree that rape is bad, but I already explained what WRONGS are... Anything that causes harm, and wasn't done in protection!

Pastafarian:
hmmmm!

na wa o!

how many times do we have to tell you that atheism NEVER laid any claim to how the universe came about? or if it came about at all?

ValentineMary:
Jesus!!! Did u even read what I wrote? I said we choose our purpose. They are not integrated into us.
God gave man freewill yet he has a purpose for us You still don't see the inconsistencies right?

MsNorgan:
Dear Nlers,

I have been keenly following threads on this religion section, and to my total surprise I see lot of people calling themselves ' Atheist ' Agnostic etc..

But I cant help but ask:

Why are you guys bent on critics of other religion

Religion is very important, its,almost as old as mankind...

since you believe there is no God, or there is God but a particular religion is wrong- this or that..

As wise you claim to be, instead of perching on peoples religion to prove your wisdom,
Why not;

1. Become A God we can see (you know, seeing is believing)
2.Why not come out with your own all-wise religion?
So we can follow The omniscience You footsteps...

Note: The Jesus/Mohammed etc you criticize came, met religion, created a legacy, left religion...

And till today we follow their their footsteps...

can't them ( criticizers ) do same?

AfonjasMustDie:

To me, education is a waste of time and money

Sweetguy25:
Stupidity. 3 million naira car and four hundred thousand naira cash. why not the other way round?

Agozie48:
@OP this is very ridiculous and stupid who says that being an introvert makes it impossible to succeed in any of these things . Am an introvert and over 10 years and counting am I have been running a business and its a very successful one. You say an introvert cant make a good doctor . let me tell you medicine is the best career choice for an introvert because he or she will connect and empathise with his or her patients. The Extroverts we have as doctors are the ones who make a mess of public hospitals with their rude attitude and the fact that they seem to show less concern towards their patients. Don't joke with an introvert because he or she can show you the best and great qualities of themselves when they need to . Being an introvert doesn't make you less of a human being or doesn't make you less successful . I know many introverts who have succeeded in all these career and are still rocking .

OlajumokeBread:

God is a scam
Jesus Christ is a scam
Religion is the biggest scam in the history of humanity
Bible (story book) is a scam
Heaven is a scam
Hell is a scam

dejt4u:
your eligibility is valid. All the best

dejt4u:
your eligibility is valid. All the best

felixomor:
The Bible does not contradict itself.
Over the centuries past, Numerous Agnostic and even some atheist professors who have thoroughly studied the entire bible have on many occasions, come to that conclusion, even despite admitting they dont believe it. Although many came to later believe after a complete study of it.

I would like to first define what a contradiction is according to the Oxford English dictionary;

A combination of statements, ideas, or features which are opposed to one another:


A good example will be thus:
"John went to school "

To contradict or oppose this statement,
I will have to say;
"John never went to school"

In the light of the aforementioned definition;
"John went to market"
would not even by any means, be a contradiction to
"John went to school"

Why? You may ask.
The answer is simple;

John may have gone to both school and the market, but at different times.


Both statements can be correct, and so will not be qualified to be regarded as opposed to each other. Hence not contradicting nor inconsistent with each other.

Another example would be:
1. "John met a girl called Mary at school"
2. "John met many girls at school"

These two statements coming from 2 different authors can be correct.

How?
The answer is simple;

John could have met Mary at 8am and subsequently met Patricia, Rose, Bolanle and Rukky at 9am, 10am, 11am and12noon respectively.

So it would obviously have been foolish to call both statements contradictions of each other, or to say both statements are not consistent with each other.

It would have been a different scenario if the original statement was;

"John met only Mary at school"

In this case,
"John met many girls at school"
would be a contradiction.

The word "only" would clearly be the changing factor.

And Still on this example, It will even be more foolish to ask,
"how many girls were at John's school?"

Why is it foolish to ask so?
The answer is easy too.

The subject of the statements was not the total population of girls at John's school.
The subject was rather based on the fact that John met girl/girls at school.

A last example would be;

"John said we could come"
and
"They said we could come"

These 2 statements coming from 2 different authors are not by any means contradictions, neither are they inconsistent, as there are numerous possible ways both could happen and still be true as follows;

1. John could be the spokesman of "they"

OR

2. John and "they" could have said so at different times.

OR

3. John and "they" could have also said so at the same
time in unison

4. And so on and so forth

The only way I could have contradicted

"John said we could come"
Is to have said
"John never said we could come"..


Thats that for buttressing the explanation of what contradictions are.

Coming Back to the bible and the issue of young internet users who claim to be atheists today, its quite unfortunate that many seem to throw around the word "contradiction" all in an attempt to discredit the bible for their personal fleshly gain.
They usually use the internet for this by posting falsely titled articles that make them appear like well researched bible skeptic sholars.

The Parts of the bible where they usually do this, are where different authors give accounts of the same biography or events.
For example, the gospels, 1st and 2nd Kings, Chronicles, Samuel etc.

I will, for the sake of this article, pick one from the popular ones they throw around.

Luke 24:4-5
And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
5. And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?

AND

Mark 16:5-6
 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
6.And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.

Firstly, Take note, Luke says what happened
"as they were perplexed"

Mark says what happened
"as they entered"

As we can see, Two different points in time
Just take note.

Secondly, also take note
The subject topic of both scriptures is NOT the total population count of men or angel messengers that were inside the tomb.
As a matter of fact, if you observe, carefully, none of those two parts of scriptures mentions the total number of angels that were at the tomb.

The subject of both scriptures was what transpired at different points in time while the women entered and also while they were within the tomb.
Just take note.


But guess what

These two portions of the bible are boldly and wrongly pointed as contradictions to each other on an anti-christian bible quiz  website that was featured on one article written by Seun above
You can check it here:

http://exchristian.net/3 (link also above)

To tell you the extent of their insincerity and utter dishonesty,
They did it by asking the question

" How many men were in Jesus' tomb when the women arrived?"

A careful look at this question would show you that the subject of this question is based on the total population count seen by the women on arrival.
Hence the phrase "How many men"

Moreso, the quiz question also specified subject time; "on arrival"

However and contrarily, none of those bible verses highlighted above had the subject of total population counts.

And also, Mark was the only one who decribed in detail what happened as "they entered" which is synonymous with "on arrival"


They intentionally used a question with a different subject and subject time to arrive at the conclusion that both portions of the bible contradicted each other.

When in actual truth, their question (based on "arrival" was generated from a momentary description from Mark.

They devilishly picked another momentary description for another point in time, from Luke and arrived at the false claim of "contradiction".

Just As illustrated in our earlier example,

"John met a girl at school"
Vs.
"John met many girls at school"

Also, For clarity sake, no portion of the bible talks about the total number of angels that were at the tomb.

Unfortunately, This is not the only portion of the bible they have dishonestly represented as contradiction before.
They have done so on many other verses, as I said before.

For example, the bible never mentioned the number of wise men who came to present gifts to baby Jesus.
But what we find commonly today even among Christians is "three wise men".
This is Wrong!

Another example; the bible never mentions the age of the earth despite the fact that many people go around saying the bible says the earth is 6000 years old

Thank God for bible explanation websites today that can easily be found using search engines like google.
As a result, These verses can now easily be researched.
A good one is www.biblestudytools.com
Such websites are free for everyone to use.

And most importantly, thank God for the Holy Spirit Who reveals these things to us.

Whenever a sincere truth-seeking person is in doubts, he should pray for understanding and the Holy Ghost would open his eyes to understand God's word.

You could also search bible verse explanations on google and youtube.
There are many other free resources online.
Bible explanation is not meant for only theologians and seminarians.

It is sad that many of these young folks who have not read the bible completely before, fall for this "bible contradiction" gimmick and begin to call themselves atheists.
When u Ask them "why?" they would scream "bible contradiction".

The "bible contradiction" gimmick is a plot by the devil directed towards young people of today, to discourage them from approaching what he fears the most, which is the Sword of the Word of God.


He makes them to Forget what the term "contradiction" means in the first place. Giving them a false sense of protection for their sins.
As a result, they never get to ask God for forgiveness.

The devil also makes them forget the fact that being skeptic doesnt necessarily make you an atheist.


My prayer is that, may the Lord Open their eyes to the truth and deliver them from this grand deception.

Amen.

ItzEse:
Clearance does not end... You can still clear two days before exam.

Venus007:
This is to bring to your notice that according to the assistant dean of School of Basic Medical Science, exams in the School of Basic Medical Science for 300l to 500l would start 16th of January, 2016. He further stated that the shift in the date by 4 weeks was for 100 and 200l only due to the delay in resumption by the new intakes and Direct entry Students.
He also said that the 100l exams will be CBT completely and not just GST.
With a face to face chat with him today, he made it clear that the exam timetable will be out this evening and once it is out today, it will be forwarded to you all.
Let us all pray that the school management have a change in heart and fully extend everybody's own by one month.

Reporting live from Medical Complex,
I am.
Aduomayebe Omamuzo
400l physiology.