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finalboss:
seems hv sent to you before

sixtuschimere:
Below are photos of Pastor Adeboye,Bishop Oyedepo and others at Pentecostal fellowship of Nigeria(PFN) 14th bi-annual Conference held in Benin city


Source: http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2017/02/pastor-adeboyebishop-oyedepoothers-at.html

maasoap:
Is 2 face not an illiterate because I don't understand why so much cry on this issue?
Wailers are still calling a whole retired major general an illiterate, heaven didn't fall.
Is it a crime now to tell an illiterate with too many bastard children (feature of an illiterate) that he's indeed an illiterate?

Olukolade1:
Forget. U have loose ur relevant in this country. No more tuface or whatever u call yourself but tumumu

diasporaman:
"APPROVED BY HIS WORD" Week 6 Bible Quiz

The first 3 persons to answer the 3 questions correctly gets N1,000 recharge cards each in the evening. You have until 12:30 pm to give your answers.

Question(1)
Which of the following women were not mentioned among those who found Jesus' tomb empty?

(a) Mary Magdalene
(b) Mary, the mother of James.
(c) Mary, the mother of Jesus
(d) Salome

Question(2)
Apostle Paul is from what tribe in Israel.

(a) Judah
(b) Reuben
(c) Gad
(d) Benjamin

Question(3)
After Abram leaves Egypt and returns to Canaan, his riches is what three things?

(a) Bronze, silver, and gold
(b) Leather, silver, and gold
(c) Cattle, silver, and gold
(d) Jewels, bronze, and silver

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Motherfucker2:
****
What are you gonna do if your sister's husband is hitting her ?? Fight the husband ??
When the police comes, two of you are going to jail.

The best thing to do is call 911, they will be there in the next minute and his ass will be in jail for domestic violence, and spouse battery and some other charges.

Brownhypo:
Thanks. I wish they could understand the kind of person I am.

finofaya:
I am assuming that God exists and it does so in an immaterial universe. Universe here means the place or state God exists in, that is the place from whence you say it created this universe. You can refer to this place by any name you find suitable.

In any event the question we are concerned with is existence and it applies to both the material and immaterial. This universe and God are both things which exist so if you say complexity has an effect on the way things exist, naturally this effect has to apply to all things that exist.

As a result God cannot escape your alleged problem of complexity.

finofaya:
You're not quite addressing my point. Look at it this way: God exists in its own universe and we exist in ours. The two universes combined are more complex than one alone without God. That's the gist of what I'm saying.

finofaya:
You raised complexity, not me. You said the universe is too complex to exist by itself. My argument is that God is even more complex than the universe and therefore a universe with God is a bigger complexity than one without God. If complexity alone is what stops things from existing by their own power, and a universe is too complex to exist by its own power, then a universe with God being so much more complex than one without God is also too complex to exist on its own. That's the implication of the complexity you raised.

The complexity is for you, not me.

finofaya:
An eternal God + temporal universe is still more complex than an eternal universe alone.

finofaya:
Accidents do not happen systematically? That's meaningless bro. An accident is merely something unplanned, a chance occurence. An example of one is an unplanned pregnancy due to failure of contraception. Such a pregnancy will proceed like every other pregnancy, despite being an accident. The laws of physics do not breakdown for it or for any other accident. The universe being an accident simply means that it is unplanned and nothing more.

I don't think the rules that the universe obeys are a matter of logic. I believe the universe is free to obey any type of physical law, including one which forbids consistency. It's hard to imagine what such a universe will look like but I can't preclude the possibility. Like I said earlier, it is irrelevant that such a universe is uncaused.

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knowyaself2:
A few of them will get curious and try to follow this line of thought. Most will dismiss it as whatever they wish to call it. The mistake atheists make is that they ,on purpose, turn a blind eye to the spiritual in its entirety.

finofaya:
Yes.

knowyaself2:
God is just an "all encompassing" consciousness or energy. Now, this energy doesn't have a face or a character, and is not "offended", does not "take revenge" or anything like this. Its a force that exists within all beings, and this is the creative power. Its just a force. We can call it nature or life. Through this force, existence becomes possible, and this force doesn't love a jew better than all others, neither will it descend from the heavens to kill all those who oppose the jews. A
this force runs into all beings in existence, and we can parellel this to the Shakti energy of the Kundalini. For this reason, this is the energy of birth, existence, and the creative principle.

What happens in all creations when they "start existing" is that they are on the route to evolution. Evolution is a natural principle and happens over the milennia. As beings evolve, they can follow whatever route and end wherever. This force that creates, does not really co-ordinate everything in existence, and its not "God" in the sense humanity has been developed by the vile religious hoaxes to believe in.

In other words, this force is not in itself "Responsible" for things that we are responsible, because after a point, the Race of the Gods(advanced extraterrestrials) who created us and altered our "normal" evolutionary process, have developed consciousness, control over, and mastery over this "force". This "force" is just potentiality and nothing else. What this is we cannot really relate in words, but what can be said, is that through meditation, one "re-connects" to "God" or this force. We can just call "God", nature. This is the most accurate thing. We cannot fight against, or have any reason to fight against "nature", but in the same time, we have to master nature and know the highest rules within it, in order to increase our existence, and evolve as species. This force runs inside everyone, like nature and everything that exists in the human being, but we are not aware of it since birth, as by design we fall between those who are aware of it all the time (Gods) and Humans, who came from monkeys with limited awareness.

All Pagan religions held the feminine force in high esteem, and this is for a reason, however, the Gods were put on a higher esteem than "Nature" or "God". Nature, while she was the "source" of every power, all these so called "powers" that can come from nature/shakti/mother Goddess, need an active user in order to be expressed. To put this into context, let's say someone has an amputee or a problem by their birth. Now, "Nature" cannot heal this problem. Through conscious awareness and persistence, and knowledge, it can be healed.

All this knowledge, capability, and these special powers, come through the increase of this "potentiality", applying it consciously to evolution and by undersanding the laws of nature. We are inseperate with "nature" and to claim that "nature/god" is outside of us, or is a jew sitting upon the clouds, ready to smite you for masturbating, is just jewish psychopathic paranoia. Only the jews lied to such extent in regards to these Truths. (Largely, because they never really understood these at all and in anyway.

finofaya:
I think the physical laws are descriptions of the structure and behaviour of the universe. For this reason I've always had difficulty understanding your question. It is the same as asking why a given existing universe has a structure. What do you expect it to have?! With or without God, any existing universe must behave in a describable way. The descriptions of how it behaves are what we call physical laws. To get a better idea of what I'm saying, try to imagine a universe with no describable structure or behaviour.

Indescribable, right? How can such a universe possibly exist and what could be keeping it in existence?

Let me mention that I see a distinction between a chaotic or disorderly universe which is simply one where making predictions about its behaviour is extremely difficult or even impossible and a universe without any laws which completely lacks any behaviour or structure. Sometimes people mean to refer to a chaotic universe when they talk about a universe without laws.

So to answer your question as much as is possible, I don't think there is any such thing as a universe without laws, whether caused or uncaused. A universe must have laws.

knowyaself2:
This is the simple logic that shows that God is impersonal and without reasoning capabilities. And it's certainly not some crucified jew and his father in the sky ....I call this mother nature. It's just a timeless creative and destructive energy that brings into existence all natural possibilities in accordance to some natural blueprint and laws.
We will never succeed in dating the origin of the universe because the universe is timeless - no beginning and no end.

frank317:
Ur answers are bringing up much questions and they must be addressed.

Are u saying that before the fall of man, man could feel just slight pain?

Are u aslo saying that before the fall of man, animals could feel much pain already during childbirth?

Are u then saying that sin did not bring about pain rather pain always existed even prior to the fall of man?