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Yes there is more... sometimes people operate in this gift unconsciously without knowing especially in dreams.

It doesn't always have to be that you see a premonition or something about to happen. It could come as a parable. Sometimes in dreams you notice that you're playing out a story, if you pay attention when you wake and put the pieces together, you will find out that you were just taught a very important lesson. Not all dreams are a wandering mind.

If you notice you see people in your dreams that you have never met before in your waking life, they could be angels, demons ,or spirit's of those passed away. Those are the people in the spiritual realm, most times they have a message to pass across. It doesn't really have to be the Angel Gabriel kind of message, it could be one or two words but never forget them, random but important words. That is where discernment comes because it is the Holy Spirit that helps you identify which person you come across in your dream that is from God or is evil.

Many people experience this things and may never experience an open vision. It is possible you may have received the gift but are not sure of it.

I'll suggest you start taking note of your experiences and find out how God speaks to you. It will help you discern when a message is from God or from familiar spirits. Like you said you already prayed for the gift, the next thing is watch, learn and listen to the Holy Spirit guide you.

It takes a while to understand the things you see. It takes years to grow in it. I had it from when I was little but I didn't attend churches where they talk about things like this so I was scared most of the time.

azammi:
Sorry I was arguing with you done the research you were right , it’s the books I read called it the seers gift so I was used to that . Please I’m sorry . So I guess I will have to pray for The revelatory gifts . Thank you , any other contribution of yours will be very useful. Thanks

I understand that part, what I'm having an issue with is the word seer. What do you understand about the gift? That is what I was trying to explain to you. It is not just about being able to see in the spirit realm.

It makes it sound like saying divination, mysticism or psychic or even prophets gifts. To me it is called discerning of spirits under the revelatory gifts. When you are praying for this gift, you are asking God to give you the the gift of wisdom, knowledge and discerning of spirits. Not the seer gift or anointing because there is nothing like that.



The seer gift you refer to falls under the category of discerning of spirits. That is why I said you should do some research about it and know how to function in it while at the same time praying for the gift of discernment of spirits.

azammi:
hmm ok but I’m not interested in being a prophet but I’m have really studied about the seers gift , so I know little about it some are from birth , some are thru prayers d gift were obtained tho most times some have it from birth but I’m really interested in the gift , no all prophet and seers start seeing from birth

Please do a little research about the revelatory gifts, the gift of discernment ,then you will understand what I'm saying. It might also help you understand how you can function if God gives you the gift.

azammi:
I don’t still understand I’ve read all bout seers from real seers what you’re saying is different

That's not what I meant. There are two types of prophets, the Nabi prophet and the chozeh prophet (the seer). The prophet is called from birth that is, the purpose of his birth on earth is his ministry.

God knows His prophets even before they are formed in the womb. He sanctifies and ordains them (prophets) for the prophetic ministry even before their birth. This is clearly revealed when God was calling prophet Jeremiah for his ministry.

Jer 1:5 before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou came forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

God creates, sanctifies and anoints a prophet before His birth but a prophet neither starts his/her ministry immediately nor knows s/he is born a prophet.


If you are not called to be a prophet, you are not a seer but that doesn't mean you can't see into the spirit realm.

Like I said earlier, it's all about the choice of words... seeing into the spiritual realm involves discernment and you can only do that when you have the revelatory gifts of the Holy Spirit. Since you are a born again Christian, you should ask God for the gift of discernment. The gift of wisdom and understanding and that he should open the eyes of your understanding.

azammi:
You say seers are made from birth that’s God cause I’m born again that means I’ve gone thru another birth thru Christ I believe I can obtain it then

Yes you can ask God to give you this gift. It's called discernment and it's under the revelation gifts of wisdom and the knowledge of God.

You may not be a seer because the seer is a prophet and prophet's are made from birth.

But you can ask God for the gift of discernment. You should also realize that the holy spirit gives its gifts as he deems it. So you may have other gifts which you shouldn't ignore and try to serve God with those gifts. He has a purpose for everyone.

azammi:
For months now I have been thinking on how to get the Holy Spirit to open my eyes to see the spirit realm but it’s has been challenging, so anybody who has please share your experience would like to learn from it

This is good news... I pray God continue to protect the new converts and the minister. That is dangerous territory but with God nothing is impossible. I only wished people like Odumeje, Izu Jesus and their likes could visit ordinary north and do their magic but again, Nigerians are just magicians willing to show their next magic tricks to empty the pockets of those who have and not for the poor or depraved.

Propaganda government

What upsets me the most is the UN has the power to obliterate this menace but instead they refuse to accept there is war going on in a region that has forced them to flee.

What is then the purpose of the United Nations? We really need to know that these people don't rate us. No country will fight for any country unless they have something to profit from it... just look Myanmar...till now where is UN. We have been dealing with boko haram threat for 15 years or more and yet not a single assistance from the international community that seems to be determined to combat terrorism.

I don't think it is out of place for us Christians to keep reminding ourselves of the rapture. Many people say they've been saying Jesus is coming but yet we haven't seen him. Our great grand parents said same thing and they are gone and yet they didn't see rapture.

The point is rapture is not only for the living. The bible says the dead will be the first to rise. This means both the living and the dead will experience the rapture.

Now, as Christians it is for us to be ready, live a life that will help us not miss the call whether we are alive or not when it happens. Don't join people to say, Christians are stupid waiting for Jesus that will never come.

It will happen, no one knows the day, hour or minute but the signs are there.The end time started with the disciples but now we are experiencing the last days and that is why the signs are more intense than it was before. The wars, famine, the cold hearts of men, the one religion agitation, the one world government, the control of humanity and our choice, the increase in knowledge, etc.

All of these have being predicted and we are seeing them happen which means other events will come including the rapture..

The question we should ask ourselves, is if Jesus comes today, will we be ready?

All this is unnecessary... there can't be religious tolerance. Why? Because religion is really not the problem.

Christians disagree with themselves hence the springing up of different churches everyday with different doctrines.

Muslims disagree with themselves, some want to reform the religion while others believe in its core principles.. there's the Sunni and Shia also.

Atheists even disagree with themselves.. there's the agnostic atheist and the other one that believes there's God but doesn't believe something I can't remember, I call them partial atheists.


The point is people disagree on everything religion, politics, ethics, culture, language, ideology, philosophy, history, even colours. We fight about anything and everything. We have different view points.

Some want to impose their theories and principles on others, some like to keep it inside and are not too vocal, while some pretend they are alright with others imposing their ideas on them even though they don't agree.

If religion wasn't there something else would still cause division. To me tolerance is an individual decision but it is difficult for there to be tolerance when a particular religion promotes violence.

If it explicitly and directly tells its followers to kill those who don't agree with them ,that is not a religion, that is an inciteful document which the world has refused to talk about. Now some will follow that religion and their conscience will tell them killing is wrong and we should be tolerant while some will read the same document and carry it out word for word. That is a conscious decision. The document gives them justification to commit crime.

It's not enough to tell people to be tolerant when the other preaches violence. It just can't work, the two cannot coexist. One will always be a threat to the other.

Keep quiet... nobody asked you to read her write up. You are jobless too on a Sunday.

Everyone has a right to their opinion..this forum is for airing your views, you have no right to tell people what they do or should not do with their time.

AllenSpencer:
You need a job! A demanding one.

So you wrote over a thousands words cos of Nigerian Idol!

Sometimes I wonder where all those cultists are after they leave school...is it not possible they hire most of them are hired as our security today? The way men on uniform act, it makes you wonder.

Sorry but this is not the case in Nigeria. Since he doesn't know the name of the officer, the custom's will protect the person because they are all in it together. The worst part is them even threatening the poor lawyer who may not have connections. Unless he hires a big shot with political connections or he has political connections, nothing will happen.

The judiciary has been rendered useless. There is never justice for extra judicial killings, he is lucky to be alive. The officer did not shoot him to scare him, he shot him because he could and he knew very well he would go scot-free.

From the way he acted, it is obvious he has killed before.

Demolism:
You know get good lawyer to take the matter up ni?
in as much you are not guilty baba let your lawyer do the rest.

Hold dem for neck by law.

KNOW YOUR RIGHT BABA

Go and marry. You're not too young to marry. In other countries young men marry at 17... Just saying.

If that is where you want to go....you can lead by example by showing us where you did your scientific research in your lab and your analysis.


If not you're still airing your personal opinion which is trusting the vax and the media based on your lack of scientific research.


I'm not a scientist but a very good researcher. I read wide and unlike you I listen to both sides. I'm not blinded by religion but logic. My lack of trust about the vaccine has nothing to do with any hatred for science and technology. I simply want what is safe. If it isn't safe I wouldn't try it.

It might seem like one death...but it means a lot. Every life matters and if people don't know how they would react with the drug I will never advice they take it. What is the chances that you will be among the 1% with the adverse reaction or death.

The people who suffered blood clots and other adverse reactions and those who died never phantomed that a vaccine will be their undoing. So until it is safe for everyone there is really nothing to prove or disprove.

Instead of arguing do your research. Stop waiting for someone on nairaland to show you proof. If you read, you will find out more. There are documents to refer to apart from videos. Videos are first hand accounts from people's experience. It is in fact one of the best ways to prove your case in court. How many of these videos will you discredit. You mean people who are in pain or have lost loved ones. How do you think they feel knowing that just hours a couple of days before the vaccine, they were fine.

Anyway, go ahead it's your decision.

FatherOfJesus:
Show us the research you did and the lab you conducted them?

You think scientific research is done on nairaland?

I never imposed my ideas on anyone. My words were simple, do your research and don't rely on information provided by CNN alone.


Listen to yourself, if you feel the best way to include people is by taking away their free will then you are no different from a tyrant.

Let there be sanctions, unfortunately we live in a tough world and have learnt to adapt. Nobody will stick a needle in me. Damn the sanctions.

Good luck lab rat (that's literally what you've become, no insults intended), let us know how your vaccine therapy is working for you.

FatherOfJesus:
So we should accept your ignorant opinion even if you say 2+3=6?

There’s no amount of ranting you make here that will stop them from giving the vaccine, if it comes to worse, people will be sanctioned for not taking vaccines. The only way to disprove science is with better science, not weird and ignorant opinions.

Your opinion doesn’t matter on a global stage

You call me ignorant because I hold a different view and opinion. That is what this biological warefare COVID has caused. Even mainstream media calls seasoned professionals conspiracy theorists. Even when virologists came out to expose this fake vaccine...they changed their Wikipedia pages altering all their years of professional accomplishments tagging them as dangerous conspiration theorists.

Believe what you want, don't do your research and please continue to allow CNN, Dr Fauci and Bill Gates tell you what you should do.

I will continue remaining ignorant in bliss while you help us achieve their fake 70% herd immunity.

FatherOfJesus:
You are obviously ignorant because you believe whatever you see in videos.

You also obviously ignorant because you have refused to learn how statistics work. Because 1 in 2million people that received the vaccine bled doesn’t mean that the vaccine caused it. There are numerous medical conditions that can cause this.

You are obviously ignorant because you refuse to ask for autopsy regarding here death.

Above all, you are hugely ignorant because you are a proponent of a baseless conspiracy theory.

All of these epistles for one single point. Do you see other Christians as fellow brothers and sisters in the Lord? Yes or No.

You can't be preaching love when you don't practice it. You can quote the bible and whitewash your assembly but it won't change the fact that even before I was born, your assembly has been known to discriminate against others.

So rest your case.

Why did you go to seminary school? We should be asking you for advice not the other way around. Please know your God. Pray and ask God for guidance. Do your best and leave the rest.


Don't compare yourself to others. First of all be thankful for that which God has given you. If you can afford to feed yourself and put a roof over your head. Think of the beggars and homeless people who feed on scraps. They are thinking of what to eat and not interested in riding a car.

It is only when we are appreciative of the little things that we can openly receive greater blessings.

There is something God has always taught me.
Never to look at the achievement of others as our own basis of success. That only breeds envy, jealousy and desperation in this case. People accomplish different things at different times in their lifetime. If you are going to be rich and successful, it would happen at the right time. Work hard, learn life's lessons and one day that door of opportunity will come. If it doesn't come to you, it would come to your children. God rewards hardwork and patience.

You would be surprised that all those sacrifices people make have consequences. Even in white movies, you hear magic comes with a price. What price are you willing to pay for easy success. Do you know what form it would come or when the price will need to be paid?

I'm not judging you but I'm telling you that many people are going through what you are facing. It might not be the same thing but in another form. Don't think for one second that God blesses others more. You are entitled to ride a car and build a house but only when the time is right. When the opportunity comes grab it with your two hands but don't go looking for what is not lost.

What are you saying? Are you even more confused?


Man is talking about about creation, miracles and you're talking about love your neighbor.

Anyway God did not choose Abraham, God blessed Abraham. Just like he blesses us today when we do the right things and obey his laws. God blessed Abraham because he was righteous.

Stop talking about ethnicity, unity, togetherness, you are part of the doctrine @LikeAking is talking about. Your organisation discriminates against people who are not part of their gathering, you see yourselves as the only Christians on earth which contradicts everything the bible talks about.

Anyway I'm not here to criticize anybody's followership..I myself don't believe in the church system. It is corrupt and full of people who want to control others. The word of God is available to everyone and thank God many people today are not fooled by Pharisee doctrines.

MaxInDHouse:
THE REAL PURPOSE OF CHRISTIANITY!

God has a heavenly organization of spirit children but due to geographical locations, ethnicity, politics and Satan's influence here humans with godly qualities aren't connected to worship like a family. So God promised to unite people of all races under one umbrella to put Satan to shame.
How possible is this when Mankind is divided by landscape, cultures, ethnicity, politics, racism and other devices?
God chose one man Abraham through whom FAITH will be established {Genesis 12:1-3} with Abraham's descendants God brought out a nation {Exodus 19:5} this nation will serve as the example for all others with the laws God gave them until the Prince of Peace arrives {Isaiah 9:6} this one will counsel people of all races and make them love themselves through FAITH they will settle all racial prejudice affecting all others who are faithless, they will destroy weapons of war, turn all the resources they have to manufacturing food (physical and spiritual) and they will obey one global government of FAITH as a spiritual family! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
This will help them to see one another as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally {Zephaniah 3:9} and they will be going to invite their neighbours to come and join this global family of FAITH, HOPE and LOVE {Malachi 3:16} then since they will be viewed as God's children by sincere and honest hearted individuals {Malachi 3:18 compare to Matthew 5:9} God will give His angels a commad to write down their names in the book of LIFE! Revelations 20:15 compare to Malachi 3:16
So when Jesus came to Israel his people failed to comprehend this wonderful plan rather they were still nursing grudges against their enemy nations instead of focusing on God's plan to unite people they wanted Jesus (Messiah) to lead them as a mighty warrior king against their oppressors {John 6:15} therefore since Christ is not for such things they rejected him outrightly {John 1:11} but to all those who understands this wonderful program Jesus gave the power to become God's children {John 1:12} remember that the program is to make people of all sort form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers so they will be going from house to house and door to door to make peace with their neighbours! Matthew 5:9
Today that global peace loving family has sufficed even though they're from different races on this planet, they have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} yet because of Satan's agents and the pagan customs that's promoting hatred throughout the earth people everywhere hate Jesus' true followers! John 15:19

So in a nutshell the main purpose of Christianity is to make people of all nations love their neighbours no matter where you come from but nepotism has eaten deep into the hearts of many therefore people don't recognize them despite all their effort to make peace reign in the midst of Mankind globally!

I did not mention any doctrine, just stated what the Bible says.

How can you say you don't need faith to perform miracles. Even Majek Fashek will be rolling in his grave.

If you have faith you can move mountains. It is written clearly in the bible. In fact Jesus preached constantly about faith. It is the basis of your belief in God.

Again the worship of God is not a motivational topic. You shouldn't try to sell it or paint it attractive. Say it as it is. God is truth and love. You don't need to whitewash the truth.

Problems are a part of life. If we pray, and it is God's will they go away. If we are to learn from the problems, they don't go until we have learnt from it.

Please go and read your bible, stop misleading people. The word of God should be your moral compass. You can't say things that you can't back with the word of God.

You are really misinterpreting the bible. Jesus did not stop the storm because it needed attention.

Sea storms is a normal occurrence. Jesus did that miracle to prove to the disciples that with faith in God they are safe. They had little faith and were afraid the ship would sink that was why they woke Jesus.


Where do you come up with all these ideas. Last I checked the bible says in Matthew 16:4, that Only an evil, adulterous generation would demand a miraculous sign, but the only sign I will give them is the sign of the prophet Jonah.”

You should not live your life looking for a miracle or looking to perform miracles. Obey the laws of God and uphold righteousness.

God will not judge us for our works but our deeds. Even Jesus said that many will say I casted out demons in your name, healed the sick in your name but he would deny them. Please go and study more, we are all learning on this platform.

Please study your Bible and ask God for interpretation. The bible is direct it is spoken in the words of man. Stop trying to read meanings into everything you read.

Where did you come up with your theology that God created Christianity. All religion is man made. God regards us as his children and his creation. We have a father-child relationship with him.

We worship him not because he wants us to but because we are happy to. We worship him because of the gift of life and the wonderful things he continues to do for us. We worship him because he is our God our creator.


God does not look at us and see Muslim or Christian. He sees his creation. We are Christians because we believe in Jesus Christ who came to the earth and shed his blood so we might be saved and know the truth.


God did not create Christianity.

What are you saying? Who told you vaccination stops spread. Don't tell me you are watching CNN.

Anyway the idea of the vaccine according to the experts that claimed to make them is to prevent serious illness. That is, you can still get COVID 19 but it reduces the risk of severe symptoms and death.

The problem now is, the vaccine itself has enough adverse effects and suspicious deaths that is enough to shut it down. They need to go back to the lab and work on it.

It does not prevent transmission, it does not prevent death and it is itself even dangerous us. Please do your research and stop reading news.

Seun:
The health workers you’re accusing of conspiring to vaccinate us were the first to get vaccinated.


Health policy experts are concerned about the fate of the entire population and not just individuals. Generally, if people don’t get vaccinated and COVID continues to spread freely, more people will die. Health policy experts use statistics to make this determination.

The worse part is people who don't even have a voice online to expose this. This is just one person among the thousands they've vaccinated. In a country like Nigeria with a poor health structure, people will die in their homes and that is it.

It was sad to watch that even as a health care worker she couldn't get help in her hospital. That is how much they have ruined the system. It was obvious they didn't have the facilities to treat her and the best they could do was panadol. Like seriously?

donnie:
Listen well to the language they use... They say things like "Only a little percent die due to underlying problems" as though we're talking about poultry. And they have taught the foolish ones among us to talk the same way, thinking they're enlightened.

Nothing was wrong with this woman until she bowed to pressure and took the vaccine. Is she better now or worse of. And those who take will need to take several more doses... Like the software I installed needs regular updating. Meanwhile they're told to continue using masks and maintain social distancing.

Even when the release new diseases in future, they're be expected to take the vaccine as well. We're in for a zombie filled world.

I've requested to see the video. It's good that we are all informed considering how some folks come here to insult us in religion section like we are ignorant.

The media and the cover up. They are not letting people know that the vaccine deaths are even more than the COVID deaths

donnie:
She got the V@cc!nation in Kaduna. Two days later she began to experience dizziness and then started vomiting blood while bleeding from the nose.

They were threatened with non-payment of salary if they refused the V@cc!nation. I'm not posting this for CNN addicts, since y'all need deliverance. This is for those who may be decieved by the plenty english these CNN addicts speak without even knowing what they're saying.

WATCH VIDEO

People refusing has nothing to do with fear. It's just simple, nobody wants to be a lab rat. People have questions and the answers given aren't making any sense.


If I take the vaccine will it prevent me from getting COVID? No

Will the vaccine protect me for life like previous vaccines? No, it's only good 6 months

What are the short term side effects? Blood cloth, blindness, nervous disorder, headaches, tremors, death etc

What are the long term side effects? We don't know yet

How do you expect anyone to take this?

paxonel:
People that are scared of covid vaccines are they really scared of vaccines or they are scared of mark 666 ?

Loveworld people

Many people interpret bible out of context. It is straight forward. But some preachers will misinterpret the words and start indoctrinating people.


That's when you'll see things like women should not wear earrings or wear attachments or extensions. They misrepresent the message, then start forming laws that never existed.

Those words were clear, it shows that God looks at the heart and not outward appearance of people. Some people appear to be good outside and deceive others but you can't face paint for God.

A Christian woman is someone who emulates the fruits of the spirit, she is kind, patient, loving, she worships God and she is good to her neighbours. She keeps God's law in her heart and practices it. When people see her she is defined as a good woman.

If you read the full message from the that chapter, you would understand the message that was passed. Reading a sentence out of context is the greatest misrepresentation.

Apologies for calling you ignorant.

AntiChristian:
So all those things written there are not to be followed by women? Why do you have to follow anything in the Bible then when it can be interpreted as you will?
And as for being ignorant, I don't think I am.

1 Timothy 2:9. You just showed that you don't understand what you just typed. Please don't be a victim of ignorance.

Here, this bible reference is not referring to a woman's outward appearance but about the inner appearance (character). Apparently women from the very beginning have been very concerned about beauty, infact almost all cultures believe women should be adorned as a rite of passage to marriage, the woman is decorated so her spouse will approve of her.

Here the verse is saying women should not only focus on having a pretty face and hair but to match it with good character. Because a pretty face cannot cover up a nasty behaviour. It is saying she's beautiful but not well trained. She's badly behaved.

So dressing and jewels is not the issue, it is all about character, deeds. The bible talks of the role of a woman see Proverbs 31:10-31.

PS, every child is taught this in Sunday school, so don't assume women don't know it.

AntiChristian:
Likewise, I want the women to adorn themselves with respectable apparel, with modesty, and with self-control, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, as is proper for women who profess to worship God...


How many Christian ladies know where this verse is in the Bible? State am if ya know o

What is olokun?

Why do Muslims like dragging issues with Christians. Whether it was Esau or Isaac, it makes no difference. The point is the message that Abraham loved God and he was was willing to lose his son. He chose God, trusting him and at the end of the day, God proved he had only good intentions for him.

He proved that he would never harm him and then he multiplied him. Today we are all children of Abraham whether Muslim or Christian. Esau and Isaac were not Christian or Muslim, the only message here is our heritage and how we can trace the history of man and how spread around the world.

So please end this unnecessary debate.

What do you mean? Are they stories? Do they play out like the movies? I don't watch Nigerian movies.


But I'll tell you this, anytime you dream like you are in a story or a drama is playing out, observe. Listen and take note. From my personal experience, I've found out it is usually an advice, like a counselling from God concerning a question or something useful to you in your real life.

God speaks in parables, a parable is a story, so you are likely to get something out of it.

Donchris3:
Any reason why