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The cover up is shocking. How can countries around the world connive to kill their people. What do the governments stand to gain. What is the intention or the goal they are pushing for. I wonder.

It's a good thing and you should get closer to God. You get more revelations that way. Besides you also get warnings about the people you meet, the places you go. That's God's way of taking care of his own. It's a gift God gave you and without any condition.

However, it's a good thing to go to church every now and then. I am like you in a way with the absentee lifestyle but I'm working on it.

This is an uncomfortable truth that many people won't want others to know because pastors will want to continue exploiting its members.

How else will they earn their private jets and luxury lifestyle if they cut off the tithing. Thank you for this truth and I hope others learn from it too.

We have a choice to give or not give. God loves a cheerful giver. He doesn't impose taxes on us, when he isn't the government.

Yes Christianity is hard and I wish most people see things from your perspective. What we have today are motivational speakers. Who tell you everything will be all right, you will be rich or wealthy blah blah.

The true test of our faith is in how we handle challenges that come our way. Being Christian does not exempt us from the cycle of life. We live and we die. We go through the same things unbelievers experience and even much more than them. We are under constant persecution not only from the people around us but even the unseen realm.

The most important thing for every Christian is to build a relationship with God and not only living vicariously through the bible alone. I tell people that the scriptures is an example of God's connection with man. That relationship never ended and he is still with us each day.

On the issue of fearing the devil. Yes, even though God has given us power over the devil and his agents, we should not test him. In fact I remember it is written somewhere in the bible, where you leave the things of darkness for darkness and just hold on to light.

I had an experience, that taught me this not too long ago. I went to the beach and I was daring the water. To me it was a joke, I was just expressing myself and just being silly. I didn't know I was looking for trouble. I battled with the sea for more than three months until I was delivered. I was trapped in the world of the sea and I didn't know. It was after my deliverance I remembered that faithful day when I was talking carelessly to the water.

So I learnt a very big lesson that even if God protects you, you should not go ahead looking for trouble where it is staying on its own.

Hashabiah:
I doubt it. And I'm sure alot of people reading this thread will also agree with me. Christianity is hard...super hard. And it takes the last bit of determination to continue because you're dealing with a God that does as He pleases irrespective of how faithful you are to His commandment

Yup .you have your work cut out for you... you can choose none, all or one. Again your choice. At least that will keep you busy and away from mine.�

FatherOfJesus:
4,100 choices. That’s a lot of probabilities

It's not a competition. It's all about your choice... that's what free will is.

FatherOfJesus:
But makes your God fake

So go ahead and follow them. Again it's your choice. If you believe in them why not? In fact you can tell us more about them probably you will be able to gain more followers in your religion.

FatherOfJesus:
You god is one of the important gods out of 4000 of them.
I personally think Odin and Zeus are more important. Lol

It's your conscience that's pricking you. If you are thinking of my imaginary God, he must have dominated your mind all day long.


You seem to think of him even more than I do. I must say I'm even ashamed I don't have as much devotion as I see you display. I must really up my game, thank you for reminding me how God is so important even to the unbelieving atheist.

FatherOfJesus:
You don’t have to mention God before we know that you are trying to defend your imaginary friend.

You don’t have to go as far as denying your friend

I never mentioned anything about my God... it's obvious you're just blabbing and not even patient to read words.

FatherOfJesus:
So your own God is true because you said it’s true?
Why is Odin not the mightiest, why must it be your own god?

Religion is so wack, no way to verify any claim. Just lies, lies and a lot of lies that cannot be measured. And you want people to keep believing your lies without questioning them.

The world is big enough for 4000 or more gods... however it's up to you to know the one true God. You can can get the truth all by yourself... you don't need a nairalander to do that.

FatherOfJesus:
4000 gods, 4000 gods can’t all be correct including yours.

Confuse people

Exactly.... everyone has their way they connect to what they believe in...how do you connect to yours?

FatherOfJesus:
Invisible Unicorn worshippers also know their god same way you know yours

I'm not looking for him. I know him, I know where he is and can reach him any time or day.

You are the one searching for him without any effort. No one will find him for you, you will do that all by yourself whether in this life or after.

FatherOfJesus:
No one is going to find your Christian skydaddy for you. Lol

The Onus is on you to find your imaginary friend hence he doesn’t exist

If you are dillydallying around my point then I'll say you are purposely ignorant.
I never likened UFOs to God. I only mentioned the practicality of science.

Again FatherofJesus what practical approach have you taken to find the Christian God? If you are still only engaging in nairaland combat, you are just simply lazy.

FatherOfJesus:
how does existence of god convent UFOs?

Why are religious people so mentally lazy?

Yes you can if you are ready to do the work. Why do you think scientists are looking for UFO's. They believe there is life outside of this earth and revealing they are willing to do anything and everything to find it. So if a Christian things a way to God is after death in heaven, a scientist believes he can reach God with his spaceship.

Not you waiting for us on nairaland to find proof for you. That's lazy again.

FatherOfJesus:
You can’t disprove god because he hasn’t been proven.
He doesn’t exist.

No one wants to waste time disproving what doesn’t have any prove.

Only religion live in that utopian paradise. Lol

Again that's your belief which is also your right. If you have read religions and don't believe them it is alright. At least our laws says freedom to practice whatever religion you choose.

Atheism is also a belief. So if you believe there is no God, you are within your right but making a mockery of another person's belief is completely unacceptable.

It is wrong and it makes you no better than the religious fanatics who go about trying to impose their religion and belief on others.

FatherOfJesus:
i also read the Bible carefully, I probably know the Bible more than you do. That’s my I’m atheist.

You just only proved you're using your opinion to disprove people's beliefs. It makes you no different from us. You are not willing to do any practical experiment to disprove the existence of God.

But here you are everyday screaming science which you know nothing about. Please stop being lazy at least we read our bible. What do you do? Imagine things and think you are right about your imagination.

FatherOfJesus:
How does my lab change whatever religion lies you people spread? Lol

You don’t even need a lab to dismantle the lies in religion, you only need a well functioning brain.

No one can disprove god because he doesn’t exist m, you can only disprove what has been proven already but in this case god has not been proven at any point in life. Only religious people who can reason hold the notion of god

Now I know you know nothing about science.


Science does not ask any questions. Instead science proves or disproves an already stated fact.


What you are talking about is philosophy and research. Which are all theoretical. Science is practical.

You are yet to tell us what scientific studies you have conducted to disprove the existence of God. Where is your laboratory FatherofJesus? Then I know you are serious. If your questioning only starts and ends on nairaland, you are not serious at all.

FatherOfJesus:
Believing in God is meant for people who can’t strain their brain to solve the mysteries of the universe.
The notion that “if I don’t understand it then its God” is a result of mental laziness and the lack of zeal to ever want to find out.

Science will always be in conflict with religion because of this. Religion/faith preaches tenets that are sacrosanct and can never be questioned, science teaches to question everything until the truth is established. Although we have religious people as scientists but they have never used their religious beliefs to establish any truth in science, talk more of inventing anything probably because they prayed. They cannot prove anything using their religion

What's with the press release.... couldn't he have avoided all of this by giving members information that their priest was safe and not arrested.

My question is this a repetitive dream?

I think your subconscious is telling you something. Like you said, you felt like something is holding you down.

What is happening in waking life? Are you finding it difficult completing projects, do you question your abilities especially in your career goals?

What exactly is holding you back from your real life challenges, if you can figure it out then you have an answer.

Not all flying dreams are associated with witchcraft. When we fly in dreams, its usually us trying to escape a particular danger or situation. What will limit your ability to fly high could be fear, uncertainty and even the people around you. You need to find out what exactly is holding you down and what isn't allowing you sour higher or overcome what ever it is.

Zontrident:
For a time now I have been Having strange and disturbing dreams, I keep on finding myself in places I had traumatic experiences, like my boarding school sometimes I'll find myself in the school premises without clothes, I'll now be running around looking for my underwear(boxers) when I find it I'll now discover that the fence surrounding the school is very high, and almost everytime I'll find that that I can fly in the dream, but whenever I try to fly away from the school premises I find out that I can't fly high, I've had this same type of dream multiple times, with myself unable to fly high and fast enough to escape from that location, it I'll feel like something is pulling me Down and preventing me from soaring into the sky, I don't know the meaning of it Buh it's really unnerving
I want to ask if there's anyone experiencing anything like this

The fact that you are denying the return of Jesus only proves the more that he is coming soon. You are fulfilling prophecy which says they will laugh and mock saying where is the Jesus that will return?

Please repent, live a good life. We don't just live on earth and die away. There is consequences for everything we do. We will be judged for each and every of our deeds on earth.

The essence of the rapture or second coming of Jesus Christ is not just to be wowed. He is coming for judgement. Books are being opened for everyone on earth. We all have accounts for our way of life. If you think you do something bad and you get away with it, don't think its over. Justice is real in heaven. God our creator is the one true judge.

Please repent and turn away from a sinful life. Being a Christian does not mean you don't need to have logic. It doesn't mean you should not promote technological advancements and Innovations. We have leading Christians in the world making life changes but they also know that life is on lease and we are accountable for our works.

That's a parable for you. Just as the story went on, there's a take home for you. It is what is happening today, many people looking for ways to make money and won't mind sacrificing their friends.

Don't trust anybody, not even your homeboy who you think you have been through thick and thin. You will probably need to make a decision about an acquaintance, it could be a friend, brother, colleague or anyone, don't trust them.


We are in difficult times.

I believe in the 2nd school of thought. In this case hades or Sheol is real and all souls go there. There is a special place where those who died in Christ or those that were good are, the bible mentions Abraham's bosom, it is also called paradise. A place of rest.

The second death is the lake of fire where there will be perpetual suffering. However nobody is in hell now. For heaven I don't know, trips to heaven is solely at God's discretion, some people make it to the throne of God after they pass on.

How I know this, don't ask me... I just know it.

obonujoker:
This question goes to study what happens to the soul after the last breath of life on this physical Earth.

1. The first school of thought tells us that the soul goes to heaven or hell immediately depending on the choices made while on Earth citing Hebrews 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:"

2. Another school of thought tells us that the soul doesn't go to heaven or hell immediately, but all soul is resting either in Abraham's bosom or Hades pending the rapture of the saints. It is said that if souls were already in heaven or hell, why would they need to rise up to reign with Jesus, or why will the bad ones rise up to the great white throne Judgement?? This school of thought believes that no one is in the lake of fire or heaven yet.


3. This school of thought believes the dead is dead and gone forever... There's no heaven or lake of fire.



Which do you believe??

Is heaven for humans?? Or a description of what the new Earth will be after the removal of this present Earth?

Give scriptural references too if you have... Thanks

The more you look the less you see... abracadabra. Try it at your own peril.

Because the devil is immortal, I think?

Are you telling me that science and Christians are two different people? Lol.


There are many Christians all over the world that are scientists. There are many Christians that were inventors, philosophers and etc. It was a Christian that was the first to visit the moon. They were reciting the Lord's prayer , research you would find it.

Science and religion go hand in hand. I can be Christian and pro-science. They are not seperate from each other. We have Christians in all walks of life, health, education, science manufacturing, and even entertainment. So you really have no point.

FatherOfJesus:
So why did Christians have to wait for science to start discovering those planets?
Simple answer: because those that wrote the Bible didn’t know. They had no knowledge at all that such existed.

The Bible is stale

Well I can't say I don't know when I already believe God did it. Like I said it's what I believe and it is my right.

You can choose not to believe, it's also your right. But what you can't tell me is what I should believe or not believe. You can't tell me my belief isn't real and you can't coerce me to believe in what you believe because you think it is right. That is why Christianity will continue to exist. You see, in the next five 5 years what you believed today will change, and you will tell yourself that you were wrong and embrace your new idea. It would still keep changing and you will still continue to be wrong. But my belief is constant, I'm not going to prove to you that it is right but in the next 5 years, I will still hold on to it because that is just what I believe.

You can set up a million threads asking the same question,but you won't get the answer you are looking for because you have already set your mind to what you believe. Even your opposition towards religion is still a religion and a belief of its own.

FatherOfJesus:
There is no shame in saying that we don’t know it today instead of saying god did it.

We have experienced a lot of times that religion claimed god did has been unraveled by science.

Just say you don’t know now, it doesn’t mean we won’t find out tomorrow. Religion always want to be right

Don't mind him...he doesn't know that the planets were named after Roman gods. Most people trying to contest the bible fail to read, research and go deep into the foundations of the religion. They argue blindly calling the bible a story book and lazily wait for nairalanders to point them to some semblance of explanation.

That's why they keep opening threads asking the same questions over and over again.

Ihedinobi3:
You're not much of a thinker, are you?

First, did you need the word "space" mentioned in the Bible? When was the term coined? The Bible speaks of the "heavens" and the "stars." Why does that not tell you that it spoke of space? Are the stars on earth?

Where does the Bible say that the sin orbits the earth? If it doesn't say it, how do you know that those who wrote the Bible believed that it did? Are you just making assumptions because it suits you to make them?

When was the name Mars coined? Why should it be in the Bible? Was the Bible teaching us about the planets?

Your posts, claims, and arguments are some of the least intelligent I have seen on this platform in a while.

So you're saying you have seen a Pegasus and you have studied its nature enough to know what it can and cannot do?


Anyway the point is the things of the heavens are unknown to us. How Jesus will take his people is unknown to us but we know it would happen. If you don't believe it it's fine but you can't make sense out of it because it is not something within your knowledge.


I'm not saying you're not intelligent, I'm saying we humans only understand the things within our environment. We are yet to even understand life outside planet earth. It doesn't change the fact that there is an existence outside our world and an intelligence that is beyond ours.

You hear candles, scrolls, lamps in the bible but you forget that the terms were synonymous with the things they could describe that were already invented in their time.

It doesn't mean that everything about God is ancient. He is the embodiment of wisdom. Everything your greatest Scientist knows, he already knew them. Well it might seem like we Christians like to live in fantasy, but this is not fantasy.

If I were you, I'll take my research off nairaland and find out what history and the world has to say about God. There are many historical research works even as early as BC that talks about God. You can only boldly deny the existence of God, Jesus, Rapture and the rest when you have done an extensive study on religion. You can't come and be arguing blindly here, and insulting people's beliefs. These are age long beliefs that were in existence before you were born.. thousands of years ago. You are not wiser than those who worshiped God thousands of years ago and they are not foolish. In fact their knowledge is what brought about the evolution of technology today. Man evolved and despite that religion continued to florish. Many scientists did their research based on the facts provided in the bible.

So please you can join them.. maybe then, I will be the one asking you questions.

FatherOfJesus:
I didn’t think so, just wondering how it will fly to Mars and probably Andromeda galaxy to rapture believers.

So you think Pegasus is just a horse?

FatherOfJesus:
It means Jesus would have to ride to multiple planets on chariot of horses to rapture believers.

Another problem is that humans would have invented floating space colonies and warp speed spacecraft to other galaxies. I wonder how Jesus is going to reach these people using horses.

I was curious so I read your thread. Despite all the distractions on the page, I must say as I read your words, I was almost close to tears.

Like you mentioned not everyone will understand the burden. It is a burden and I understand it. I wasn't aware of anything about being a prophet growing up ,I was raised in an orthodox church where we basically have a yearly curriculum.

In primary school, I would tell my friends that I know when the rain would fall, what teacher would be absent or some random predictions...to me it was a normal thing. Secondary school I had coined the term premonitions and movies didn't even help either. Later on it was déjà vu.

I could see so many things from dreams that I never saw in my waking life. Sometimes I would enter a place and feel a kind of pressure, like I was entering a different kind of place but I didn't know it was another dimension.

It was not until my university when I literally watched a student drowning in the ocean not knowing it was actually happening at the moment. And still I didn't know what it meant to be a prophet. Life was fine , I had fun, I liked going to the movies but I was scared of the night. I was scared of seeing someone committing suicide or seeing things I couldn't explain. Gradually it developed to fear of being in the dark which till now I haven't been able to overcome.

Now how I discovered about being a prophet, well I was working, my life was good and I didn't have to worry. I began having problems at work. Not with my performance but I began to feel pressure, and for some reason I wanted more. I had a side job but it still felt like I just wanted to leave my office. I felt choked, not from being busy but very uncomfortable. I didn't understand what was going on so I kept pushing thinking probably I'll settle during my leave..that was when my problems began.

From my leave, I decided I didn't want to go back. I was struggling but I had enough money to spend working on the side too. Suddenly I lost all my clients and everywhere work was coming from. I couldn't keep up with my rent so I moved in with a friend. I decided to go to church, my mum had been disturbing me to attend her charismatic programs which I was always too busy with work to bother but then I was free no excuse. It was then I was told I was supposed to be working for God as a prophet and should start now. Well I don't think I was interested, but I was curious so I continued reading books but with no intention to pursue that. I wanted to work with shell or ExxonMobil places like that.

All my friends started leaving. They told lies about me, picked up silly quarrels and it just didn't make sense. It was like that till I had no one. And that is the point I am now. Like all of the things I loved to do, has been taken away from me. When I try to do something or do something wrong i get a warning like, it's so scary. I get parables, directions, sometimes my mom thinks I'm crazy until when she sees whatever I've said happen.

The part that makes it so burdensome is when you see things happening and there's nothing you can do to save the person. There is the good parts but the ugly experiences makes it really burdensome. I'm still in the process of training and it hasn't been easy. Especially knowing that I can't go back to the way things were before.

By the way, I got back my clients and even more when I started to behave. So I try not to disobey so I don't lose money. Like I'm constantly in check. It's like I have someone watching me telling me, you have been a bad girl and I'm going to punish you. Yes, and then I'm humble again. I remember King David this way, it's really not easy but the Lord is my strength. There are so many experiences that I can't squeeze in here.

Truvel:
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Correction, you can not just quote the old testament out of context. Malachi was the era before Christ. Which means the practices where from the early fathers Moses.

Secondly, the tithes referred to in the passage has nothing to do with money. The bible never made it compulsory to give the church money except at the time when David was building the temple.

Let people give what they want. The only thing we owe God is our obedience to his laws. Afterall, he said obedience is better than sacrifice.

God does not need our money, he doesn't want it. He cannot even live in a building built by the hands of men. Tell your greedy pastors to stop threatening their members with Malachi. If you are a good priest or pastor, you will never hunger.

God will direct people to bring food to your table so long you are doing his work. Many pastors have given testimony of this. Thank you.

Angelmichael63:
If you don't pay TITHES AND OFFERING you are a thief and you are robbing God
MALACHI 3:8-12

And if you pay,is not longer your money/resources therefore whatever the TITHE is used for in the church does not concerns you

Since you have paid,you have obeyed the word of God and you are entitled to God's blessings pronounced for tither.

If pastors misuses it, Is between them and God for judgement and not you

If you are truly a Christian then you should believe every part of the scriptures and do your best to obey the scripture which is the word of God

THANK YOU ALL

IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING CONTRARY PLS BACK IT UP WITH SCRIPTURE ELSE, IS NOT LONGER A CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE.

The truth is I can tell you I have fasted just three times in my life and under compulsion. To answer your question on fasting, you need to refer to your bible.

Why did most people fast in the Bible? From my own observation ,they had a puzzling question or a concern which they were seeking answers from God. If you have a question you need to ask God, you fast but the length of time depends on how much you can handle.

I personally believe three days is fine. Besides you don't need to nag God for answers, even without fasting he answers. However, I learnt that if you want to hear more from God, you will need to fast intermittently. It should be your decision though.

azammi:
I’ve seen spirit ones or twice it’s always like a day dream , I’ve seen someone that looks like an angel mostly flashes , I don’t know but I’ll be praying about The revelatory gifts more I know it’s will manifest do you have any idea how long I’ll fast or what kind of fast I need