Ajuran:

give me some kenyan websites. Also why havent you grabbed your ankles?

rubbish, ask the person on your left to do that for you.

Ayanle, Did you read the disturbing story on Muslim girls in UK? How they get molested by their brother,fathers,uncles,bf etc? just in case you missed,please read below.

The report examines organised intimate exploitation by gangs and groups in the UK’s Asian and Muslim, Hindu and Sikh communities - Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, Somali and Afghani - but also notes the involvement of white offenders.

Some of the victims include Imaan, abused from a young age by her father and then her Quran teacher; Aisha, sexually abused at six then later groomed for sex through the internet; Safa, Molested by an uncle at the age of 14 then handed around his friends; Nazia, hooked on heroin by her boyfriend then prostituted by him; Hasina, who was was 10 when she was sexually abused by an older boy then lured into having sex with a network of youths; Parveen, who was 12 when her stepfather’s brother and his friend blackmailed her into having sex with them and their friends.

The report highlights occasional complicity among other women who turn a blind eye to this crime for fear of bringing shame and dishonour on the family.

Now everytime you tell someone to touch ankle,remember they are not your small sister.

Ajuran: We will make kenya like somalia

For the 5th time,Come tell this to kenyans online. Aren't you brave enough? wolalo? please cross over and stop hiding here like a small boy.

OK we have seen your swollen face. back to biz.

Ajuran:

your economy is based on the buisnesses owned by somalis and indians. Fact.

Tell that to nigerians not me.
You Keep hawking watches,women's panties,sandals and miraa on the streets while kenyans engage in real businesses raging from from Farming,Mining,Tourism,Transport,Textile,.. need I go on? ok we are too busy with real economy.
Indians are smart when it comes to business. Somalis are just thick ,can't do any serious business!! except eat miraa 24/7.

Take your money and run fast or we run you out.

Ajuran:
Kenya will wipe out somalia off the face of the earth.
All the Somalis have already taken their money out of kenya Please ask them humans to follow suit fast, we need a fresh of breathe air,their blood kidnap money stinks.
And you will go back to Indians charging you a lot of money so you can wear clothings. You know nothing about indians in kenya and how they run their businesses here,so don't show your ignorance.
Kenyans have peed on Somalis, the most arrogant ,unintelligent,hard headed people on earth.

!@ Kenyan economy depending on somalia for it's survival. ok you are beyond help.

I welcome you to post your poo on a kenyan forum if you mean it,or if you are terrorist enough and Stop hiding here.Coward of Mogadishu.

Hi Fulani,

yeah do some research and don't be misled by Ayanle Wolalo. .He wants us to think somalia is superior but he forgets there are people with hard facts on the ground.

Ajuran:

I Rep SOMALIA ALL DAY. so much so that i ran out of numbers. Somalia1,2,3,4,5,6,etc. My current username is the Somali Sultanate that Defeated Ethiopia while kenyans were slaves in their own land to arabs.

YAAAAAWN. I got you a new username- ALADEEN PRINCE OF WADIYA.

WHO STARTED THE WAR?

Have we forgotten all the kidnappings that were taking place on kenyan soil by these somalis?
Somalia was literally stepping on kenya's economy by threatening our tourism industry!
As if that was not enough they started kidnapping our own workers in refugee camps! including goverment officials
As if that wasn't enough they began attacking and bombing churches in northern kenya!

Which goverment would tolerate such acts in their own border.It was time to restore sanity and

How many guns find their way into kenya visa the borders and refugee camps?
Illegal trade and tax evasion?
oh to hell with somalia

Ajuran:

What you are saying you need to tell to Kenyans. Cause Somalis never attacked Kenya before they invaded. Besides Kenyas northern Region is Somali and they want to be part of Somalia.

OOOOOOOOOHH PHUUUULIZ!! Tell that to your smelly toes. You never attacked kenya before?? Nothern kenya is somalia's ? You are a confirmed terrorist Ayanle , but sadly a Deranged one-did they reject you? you must be a coward.
Why do somalis love other nations more than their own nation? You hardly talk about somalia as a nation,it's kenya this,ethiopia this,for christ's sake,you are REFUGEES in OTHER NATIONS ,doesn't matter whether you are in north or south. Can't you get that? You are at the mercies of your neighbours!

I invite you AGAIN to talk that 'northern' nonsense on a kenyan forum.C'mmon ayanle and tell kenyans online how northern kenya is somalia's and how you intend to 'TAKE OVER' kenya's territory! You won't know what hit you when it does.

I don't want to engage a deranged terrorist alone.

Ajuran:

Kenya should not have invaded Somalia. Enough Said.

Rubbish! Useless Somalia took the war to kenya by kidnapping their guests,bombing their places and kenya decided they had had enough!! arghhh you were an economical and political nuisance to kenya!!
We went to restore order in your order country because half of your people (women,old and kids)were running to kenya for refugee!!
We cannot have a somali nation in kenya! your people need to go back, but where to ? the alshabab killing fields? why kill your own and populate neighbouring nations?
It's not yet over,we will die to defend our land from useless neighbours even if it means dealing with those inside kenya mercilesly.
We no longer pity your women and kids because they harbour them terrorists. Kenyan's have resolved,to hell with somalis.

This somali/yousuf takes on a different ursername when cornered/defeated ? not courageous at all.

The report examines organised intimate exploitation by gangs and groups in the UK’s Asian and Muslim, Hindu and Sikh communities - Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, Somali and Afghani - but also notes the involvement of white offenders.

Some of the victims include Imaan, abused from a young age by her father and then her Quran teacher; Aisha, sexually abused at six then later groomed for sex through the internet; Safa, Molested by an uncle at the age of 14 then handed around his friends; Nazia, hooked on heroin by her boyfriend then prostituted by him; Hasina, who was was 10 when she was sexually abused by an older boy then lured into having sex with a network of youths; Parveen, who was 12 when her stepfather’s brother and his friend blackmailed her into having sex with them and their friends.

The report highlights occasional complicity among other women who turn a blind eye to this crime for fear of bringing shame and dishonour on the family.

what a pity!!

thoth: Kenya a western Puppet nation with a very loyal Western Puppet president, even more loyal than GEJ.
I have asked the same questions myself, a friend of mine pointed out that all the injuries looked the same and none was like gun wounds.
Have you noticed you just see blood all over their body without actual wounds ?

In many of the pictures released i saw dead bodies lying around outside the mall while police men and people were walking about, i thought it should have been removed if it was really dead and not used as a prop to make the picture look horrible just like in movies.

Anyway this observation does not rule out that there may be massacres.

You must be joking huh!


As regards the 'fb story',it shouldn't even be a subject of discussion.It is like discussing shit.

Sagamite: ^^^ I am actually aware the African forces are being successful in Somalia especially since Kenya intervened. Trust me, I have some links to Somalia.

What I am saying is, if I was the one, they would pay more for this attack as I would commit more troops and finish them in the hinterlands they hold.

okay that's better.
And oh, that won't make the situation any better as the organisation has young recruits from all nationalities including few kenyans.
The cash offered to recruits is too good and many youngsters have fallen prey.

Sagamite:



The police officers I saw did not exhibit good training. Maybe the special forces did but I cannot know because the media was blocked and withdrawn when they came into play to stop the communication between the terrorists and their commanders.

Succeed in Mogadishu?

Sweetie, I am sure the military standard expected from a Western Army in a war zone is different from that expected from an African Army in a war zone. So I would not use that to refer to success and failure.

If we tried to apply US Army standard on the Nigerian Army fighting Boko Haram, Boko Haram would be having carnivals in the city centre before exploding their bombs.

The fact there is that if you are unrestrained by professional standards, you can strike fear in the opposition and their supporters and slaughter as many people as possible without anyone questioning you, hence increasing your odds of killing the enemy.

And No, the US did not fail in Mogadishu, they went there as peacekeepers and decided, due to public pressure, their soldiers are not worth dying for this. I am sure we Africans don't give a toss about our soldiers that much and I am sure more Kenyan soldiers would have died in Somalia than US soldiers did. I sure don't give a toss about the Nigerian Army, but strangely enough care for the British Army.

If I was President of Kenya though, I would send more troops into Somalia to capture all the regions Al-Shabaab has.

You see Sagamite, you are really behind news.What Kenya just witnessed was a retaliation ,but what the terrorists don't know is that it has made our resolve stronger.
KDF captured the key admin towns,the nerve centres of terrorists last year.The KDF also did their best to rescue the hostages.



Capturing AFMADOW.
KDF captured the key Al-Shabaab-controlled town of Afmadow
Afmadow served as a staging point for Kismayo, Al-Shabaab's stronghold in southern Somalia.
It's is an important administrative town that was supplying Al-Shabaab fighters with money. It was their nerve center,"

The capture of KISMAYO-The War Trophy.


[b]The entry of Kenya Defence Forces into Somalia in October 2011 shocked the world; it was a case of a peaceful country up in arms after tolerating decades of suppression due to its tolerant self. This perception was wrong; Kenya is a peaceful country.

Kenya sent troops into Somalia in October last year, accusing the Al-Qaeda-linked group Al Shabaab of abducting foreigners from its soil – charges denied by the militants. Faced by a series of abductions, Kenya had no alternative but to make a bold step to secure its borders and safeguard her sovereignty. Kenya’s geopolitics and her strategic importance underscore the need for multi-pronged efforts to stymie regional conflicts and internal security threats.
The Strategy
Ever since Kenya made the incursion, her military has routed the militants, one town after another using the most unique strategy ever used to counter an army run by terrorists. The Kenya Defence Forces (KDF) have killed hundreds and hundreds of Al-Shabaab troops, captured strategic towns formerly held by the militants, trained and positioned Somali government forces in liberated areas. Al-Shabaab has been weakened, on the run, and confused. It lacks the basic requirements such as leadership and money to make inroads in its quest to remain in power. South Somalia recently was Al-Shabaabs stronghold and economic nerve centre, not any more.

Today, KDF has captured economic, infrastructural, and technical capability centres of Al-Shabaab besides destroying the militants training and bomb assembly facilities. African armies have not defended let alone won a war, but KDF has made the most significant difference in Kenyan, African, and global history and did what none of any other armies have ever done: defeating, eliminating and completely wiping out an Al-Qaeda backed Islamist army to liberate the Somali people, of course in areas where it has liberated. No foreign army has managed a foothold in Somalia but Kenya Defense Forces have.

David James, an expert in military intelligence, reckons that KDF is using a unique strategy to fight and win. “They eliminate the enemy, scout, and police the liberated area besides bringing in local administration to assert. The purpose of this strategy is to pre-empt insurgency and guerrilla rebirth. Interestingly, Kenya defense forces help demine the liberated areas, de-militarize, arrest elements of enemy, and most importantly, seal the liberated area besides ensuring arms are confiscated.” he says. This ensures Al-Shabaab does not regroup and regain ground. The strategy paves way for lasting peace and social integration. Military intelligence shows Kenya Defense Forces are using logistics as a weapon to win the war and sure, they are. Al-Shabaab have ran away from the south and now are regrouping elsewhere.

Al-Shabaab cannot respond due to lack of troops, reinforcements, ammunition, and morale. Simply Kenya Defense Forces have reduced Al-Shabaab to a running militia. They have liberated Somalia while the international community sat on the fence watching and hoping they would fail. There are no training grounds, facilities, and resources left for Al-Shabaab in Somalia. Boats full of fleeing fighters are leaving Kismayo after KDF started infiltrating and destroying air defenses, arms depots, and cutting off Kismayo from any help from the inland.

When Kenya defense forces stormed South Somalia in October, they straddled Al-Shabaab held towns from Al-Shabaab system. Afmadow was isolated, quarantined, and denied of essential resources including money, arms, ammunition, food, and medicine. A naval patrol by KDF navy reduced piracy, training of new recruits, and distribution of resources to militants. Al-Shabaab started to lose clout and its military potential. Several top Al-Shabaab leaders, trainers, and bomb experts were killed in special operations by Kenya Defense Forces during their incursion since October 2011.

Kenya army has struck Kismayo many times from the air dismantling air defense mounted on buildings besides arms depots. Hundreds of Al-Shabaab soldiers have been killed and hundreds badly wounded in KDF led attacks on their strongholds, training facilities, and logistical positions often referred to by the international community and media as villages. Somali villagers in the South attested to CNN that since Kenya Defense Forces came in, there has been peace, freedom, and health. Administrative centres are being set up and TFG forces maintain law and order. Kenya read the riot act to the international community by showing with actions that peace and stability could be achieved in Somalia.

The strategy deployed by KDF continued to destroy enemy resource mobilization, enemy troop movement, assembly and distribution of enemy weaponry including guns, bullets, and bombs, defiling the capacity of the enemy even in others areas it controlled. This trickledown effect is felt across Somalia where other foreign armies are operating including UPDF, the major player and pioneer of the military intervention in Somalia. KDF liberated Afmadow, a strategic town that has helped starve Kismayu from continued supply of vital resources. Recently, KDF liberated Miido, another vital strategic town. Reports indicate that the battle for Kismayu is on the verge and sooner it will be under KDF control. KDF continues to inflict a painful blow to the Al Shabaab terrorist organisation.
[/b]
http://kismaayonews.com/2012/09/06/why-kdf-strategy-is-succeeding-in-crushing-al-shabaab-standard/

dbrownfidha:

From the architecture of the house, to the interior, the landscape outside, the beautiful scenery of untamed wildlife outside, the isolation!!!! No wonder Prince william proposed to kate in kenya on an isolated resort much like these one. Does anyone have photoes of the hotel Kate and william stayed while in kenya? If I was given a choice of going to heaven or stay in a place like this with just a few neighbours and frinds, I wouldnt hesitate

some photos are just breathtaking,all I can do is smile in my soul.
The cottage where william proposed ,I am sure gallivant will upload it, is nothing close to this.It was remote and wooden,without electricity if I can remember well. But there's something about it that's so cool.

CAMEROONPRIDE: u think all Cameroonians know how do that?(wash wash)
Do I have to learn kiswahili ?

hehehe hapana,where did you learn swahili?

Sagamite:

That is the more reason why the first police officers that got their should have exhibited training of having their guns pointed straight and ready, not hanging down.

Confusion is not an excuse for them if they were well trained. Majority of their job would be in environment of confusion anyway and training should show they can be mostly structured and professional even in the midst of confusion.

Sagamite why do you keep insisting that they were not well trained? These people you are blaming are partly trained by the foreign forces you keep hailing. If the British soldiers train in kenya how much do you think our forces are exposed to? Yeah they do undergo training by those fellows-the kind of training that can kill a normal human like you and I on day 1.
And If they are poorly trained,how did they succeed in dealing with el-shabab in mogadishu,where the americans failed and gave up?

We are seeing a retaliation, but trust me Kenya will not relent on the war. Somalia needs Kenya to survive and Kenya has ways of draining life out of that poor country. Whenever such terrorist acts happens,the somalis bear the brunt more than kenyans .

Please don't underestimate or come to conclusions based on one or two acts which you see on video, because the real acts of bravery by soldiers are never captured as there's no luxury time to take photos when the war heats up.

Only accounts by the soldiers in the line of fire worth listening to.

Sagamite:

Yeah, I was not blaming the woman. I was just stating the precautionary measures I would take if I could.

"assailants rigged 50 cal gun with laser controlled unmanned automatic firing" - What does this mean?

You mean they were using weapons that fired on their own in the mall?

yes,but they were put on when the kdf/army took control.

Sagamite:

One thing I have learnt in hindsight seeing this is that, if I was ever unfortunately in these position with my family and we are yet to get out of the building, the first thing I would do is that I would find someone injured or dead and rob their blood all over my family. So when we need to play dead, it would be a little convincing.

No No sagamite,the events that played out that day did not leave room for such acts of bravery! It was too risky not with bullets flying around!
Look at where that woman lay,do you see any dead person nearby? would you risk looking for dead people's blood to smear on yourself?? honestly I wouldn't even breathe!
From victims accounts,those who attempted to make the slightest movement ended up dead! or shot!!

Ok this is what happened.
- nine people pull up at westgate with guns blazing
- enter the mall shoot in the air to alert fellow assailants who were already in the mall then proceed to shooting at people
- number of assailants in excess of 25 took up positions in various parts of the mall
- assailants rigged 50 cal gun with laser controlled unmanned automatic firing, rigged most of the mall with small explosives
- assailant snipers took positions in the vents
- the KDF got the vent plans, determined the snipers positions, sealed the vents, got the fans to blow towards the snipers then deployed flame throwers with over 50 metres range and fried the idiots inside the vents

The KDF/Army are not stationed at westgate,those fellows stay in their barracks -some distance away.
The first people to react were reservists,ordinary cops and anyone with a gun!
By the time it was discovered that this was no ordinary robbery,guys had lost lives,the army was called in followed by the KDF in that order.
And they used different entry points to access the building including the roof top.
I mean even the most well trained group makes blunders during such operations and victims are always there.
The confusion that reigned initially was too much so I can't blame the woman.

Beey: Are you Kenyan?At this rate you seem to have more info than the Kenyans on the ground.What is your source?I know you are not Kenyan because this tragic event has united us instead of dividing us.We are too busy focusing on how to comfort one another, regardless of whichever part of Kenya we are from.We are too busy trying to heal as a nation & therefore we don't have time to waste majoring on minors.We are too occupied to listen to our critics and we are too united to give room to divisive politics. We cannot afford hatred and disparity at this time.I suggest you start sharing in the Kenyan spirit dear one.Celebrate what we celebrate and hate what we hate as the nation of Kenya!

Okija_juju:


I doubt it..

1. First he crawls on his belle to the location where the Woman and her kids were docking - I guess he did this because he was aware that the mall was still unsecured..

2. He spots them, picks up the girl in Pink (still crouching), realizes shes too fat & heavy, drops her and picks up the smaller sized child. But this time, he stands to full height and even lifts the child above his head to carry her properly.. Then he crouches again as he leads them out the store..


If he had cover, he wouldnt need to have belle-crawled to their location, only to stand up to carry the child and crouch again to walk out..

Those Al-Shabaab guys were obviously not properly trained.. What that cop did was poor Police practice. He endangered his life and that of the child & her family.

LOOK AT THE VIDEO PLEASE. THE AREA WAS SORROUNDED BY COPS WHO STRATEGICALLY POSITIONED ON TOP FLOORS.THE WOMAN RESPONDED TO THE COP BEHIND WHO ORDERED HER IN SWAHILI TO STAND AND RUN CZ THE PLACE WAS SECURED.
SHE ONLY STOOD AFTER SEEING COPS BEHIND HER.

I will def miss this place but a bigger and better mall will come up for sure.

I love this mama and her kids.

GH KWAME: Kai! The Terrorist is now beign terrorized! The Moderator is determined to uproot terrorist on this Thread! Hahaha! @Africa-down/ @pirate1/ @ayanle456 you have met you metre!

THAT'S COMMENDABLE OF THE MODS.NO ONE SHOULD ENTERTAIN A TERRORIST ON HIS FORUM.
THE FELLOW WOULD NOT LIVE A DAY IN HIS HOUSE IF HE POSTED SUCH ON A KENYAN FORUM, AS HE WOULD FACE CHARGES OF BEING AN ELSHABAB SYMPATHISER AND WARMONGER.
HE WATERS DOWN THE QUALITY OF NL. GOOD JOB MODS.

baby-boy:
This lady known as Samantha Lewthwaite a.k.a The White Widow was the wife of one the 7/7 terrorist in the UK. This lady was one of those who led the terror attack in Kenya over the weekend

What suck is that no mentioned this lady's involvement but if she was someone from an African descendant or Asian, they would have plastered her picture all over every front page of every tabloid paper, but because she is a[b] British woman no one mentions it.[/b]

Perhaps you are not reading the news? Her name has become stale in everyone's mouth, but I understand your concerns.She ought to be the breaking news.

ayanle456:

EL-SHABAB TERRORIST,TAKEN ONE OF YOUR MANY ID'S AFTER AFRICA-DOWN ? HUH? TOLD YA THIS COULD BE SAMANTHA'S BF ON YOUR FORUM.

CATCH YOUR FUN HERE,BUT I WELCOME YOU TO POST YOUR INCITING TRASH ON A KENYAN FORUM.

KINDLY INBOX AND I WILL GIVE YOU OUR FORUM LINK IF YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE TERRORIST ENOUGH.DON'T MATTER WHERE YOU ARE JUST POST YOUR OPEN MIND AND ENGAGE KENYANS ON THEIR PLATFORM.

WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE IS AN ACT OF COWARDICE BECAUSE YOU GOT NO KENYANS BOTHERING YOU.

KARIBU.

Awsome.

TERRORISM OR ANYONE SUPPORTING MUST BE CONDEMNED HARD BY ALL REGARDLESS OF RACE,NATION OR RELIGION.

IT HAS NO PLACE IN A SOBER SOCIETY AND ALL NATIONS MUST STAND UNITED AGAINST IT BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS WHERE THE DEVIL WILL STRIKE NEXT.

THE WORLD NEEDS BUILDERS,LOVERS,CARETAKERS,AND NOT WARMONGERS,HATERS AND MURDERERS.

KEEP THE PEACE.

The building is no more but out of the ash shall rise a tower.

CAMEROONPRIDE: ah ah .maybe we don't have enough money or the technology to Carry official missions .

On a serious what are the gun laws in Kenya? That dude was carrying a gun in a mall , how did he enter the mall sef ?

Licensed.Many influential people are licensed to carry guns.You only need to qualify and apply.