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Christistruth03:
Saraki the Senate President was a British Citizen

Now have you asked why his case failed?

Have you asked if it was properly instituted?

Have you asked if the person that instituted the case had the locus standi to do so?

Saraki’s case was taken to court way after the window for such redress had elapsed.

Again, it was instituted by a meddlesome interloper.

Get your facts right.

helinues:
This op with his/her half baked analysis all the time

Don't some of you people know how to give something a rest?

What happened to all the epistles you have been writing for years on this forum?

What epistles?

That you said Obi will not win a single Local Government during the presidential election, and I wrote to the contrary and stated how you were wrong.

Then you moved to “he will not win a single state; Atiku will win Anambra.” I wrote again to disprove your claim.

Then you moved to Obi will not get up to 1million votes and once again I wrote to demonstrate that you were wrong.

What happened in the end?

Did Obi not win a Local Government?

Did he not win a state?

Did he not score above 1 million votes?

Recall how I wrote here that Obi will win Lagos and you said it was malaria?

I said he would win Abuja and you said Abuja is Atiku’s fortress.

All of these came to pass.

What have I written here that was wrong?

Mynd44:
The position of deputy governor is exclusively the affair of the party now.

If the deputy governor is disqualified by death, voluntary stepping down, resignation or court, the party nominates a new one. Or did anyone vote for Sanwo-Olu/Hamzat or APC?

You are not even bothered about Obi and GRV 's double nomination from both PDP and LP and also the fact that as at the time their names were sent to INEC as candidates, they were not even recognised members of LP.

One was cleared and screened by the PDP before he pulled out hours before the primary election.

Same as Peter Obi.

And as the electorla act has said, you can't contest for the same position in two different parties.

The legal knowledge of LP surpporters is really something to love

I thought you wanted us to stick to facts, why degenerate to emotional vituperations?

First, the Electoral Act says parties should submit their register to INEC 30 days before primaries, full stop. Did it say the consequences of not doing that? Did it say only those whose name are in the register are qualified to contest an election in such political party? Did the Electoral Act say people can no longer join the party after the register is submitted to INEC?

Again, about not contesting in two constituencies…. Oh! So you agree that double nominations is a ground for disqualification but you have always defended Shettima?

But gues what, unlike Shettima who got nominated in 2 constituencies, Obi and GRV only participated in the process of the primaries of another political party but never contested the primaries nor did they get nominated. So what law did that offend?

OmoFiditi:
"Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America
Oath

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."


https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/learn-about-citizenship/the-naturalization-interview-and-test/naturalization-oath-of-allegiance-to-the-united-states-of-america

Thank you for this.

My problem is that they see these things printed in black and white and they still argue it.

Even if the person is seen with knife dripping of blood with a corpse in front of him, they will still defend it.

This is troubling.

Mynd44:
False. The act has been ammended after that incident to prevent such in future meaning only the deputy will be disqualified

You might wanna cite the Act or Law for verification.

Because that judgment was in 2020, and between 2020 and now, I’m not aware of any such amendment.

Pray, what amendment is that and who sponsored it?

Because I suppose you are referring to the amendment that was made after the Kogi saga, and not Bayelsa.

Because to make any amendments against that judgment would be to say that the governor and his deputy, or president and his vice, are no longer running a joint ticket. And if that be the case, then we will start voting for the governor and deputy governor differently.

aswani:
For me, this is where you argument falls apart and becomes an interpretation.

Hamzat can rightfully argue that he has never sought to be elected Gorvernor and those parts of the constitution do not apply to him.

He only has to satisfy parts of the constitution relating to Deputy Governors.

Also per your argument of him stepping in if anything happens to the Gorvernor, this can be extrapolated to everyone in the hierarchy of governance in the state (after the deputy governor) starting from the Leader of the State House of Assembly leader. Do they all have to fulfill the constitutional requirement of a Gorvernorship candidate too?

No, you are wrong.

I know what I was saying when I said that every requirement for office of governor is equally required of a deputy governor.

It’s constitutionally provided for in section 187 of the 1999 constitution.

It’s not subject to whimsical interpretations.

aswani:
Also, you are not comparing like with like.

In Diri vs Lyon, the Deputy Gorvernor elect was found to have actually flouted a requirement for ALL candidates presenting themselves to INEC for elective offices which was to produce true and proper copies of documents. Fake documents were produced which corrupted his and his Gorvernor's candidacy.

In this case, Deputy Gorvernor Hamzat has satisfied all the requirements for the position he is going for.

Clearly, no court will revoke the Senate President's election if they fulfilled the requirements for that position but not that for the President because they are third in line to the Presidency.

I cited that case because it is the most recent decision of the Supreme Court that established that the Governor and the Deputy Governor are tied to the same umbilical chord; that is to say that if anything is later found defective on Hamzat, Sanwolu goes with him.

I was referring to the case because its facts and materials are same with Hamzat’s present case.

tolue42:
"Things are looking more and more bleak for Tinubu " , so in all honesty, you still believe Obi or Atiku won the election despite all the jokes and comedy Obis people are perpetrating in the tribunal? Most especially Obi's witnesses? Please wake up..nothing on earth will truncate Tinubus government.

Yeah, there we go again.

You remember when you people said Obi can’t win a single LGA during the election?

When u finally accepted that Obi could win his LGA, you moved to claim that he cannot win a single state; that Atiku will win Anambra.

When you realized Obi will win Anambra, you changed it to “he will not get up to 1 million votes”.

Now, guess what, you were so wrong like we told you that you were then.

Not only did get more than 6million votes, he won the election but got rigged out by INEC.

Now, we are telling you as usual that Obi will recover his mandate from the court but you are back to your usual rhetorics.

Hope you don’t kill the judges when the time comes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3IAhnZ-muc
A written version of this news has been posted before on this platform, that a certain group, Coalition of Civil Society Organizations for Tinubu and Shettima organized a press conference and called on Peter Obi and Atiku to withdraw their case from Tribunal and support Tinubu since he (Tinubu) was already implementing the ideas they campaigned with during the elections.

Well, ordinarily nothing would have concerned me with that except that I went through the comments on that post and saw the comments of some Tinubu supporters suggesting that it was a made up story by Obi supporters to score whatever point they think it was meant to score.

That’s why I’ve had to bring the video here so that they can see that while they are on Nairaland grandstanding and arguing blindly, those who don’t lie to themselves and are aware of the goings on in the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal have seen that things are looking more and more bleak for Tinubu which is why they have chosen to deploy psychological manipulation to the issue by trying to paint Obi and Atiku as looking after self glory and not national and patriotic pursuit.

The conference had almost all the major media platforms present; from NTA to Channels to Arise, etc.

Now, I ask Tinubu supporters, did Obi organize all that just to pretend that Tinubu is jittery of the happenings in the Tribunal?

Or do you now agree that, away from your fake pretenses, the future is bleak for Tinubu and his illegitimate mandate which is why you people are now deploying media psychological manipulation to twist issues?

See, like I said many times, we shall overwhelm the judiciary with evidence until they have no option than to do justice.

At the Lagos State Governorship Election Petition Tribunal today, a US based Immigration lawyer testified in court that the deputy governor of Lagos State, Obafemi Hamzat, renounced his Nigerian Citizenship in order to acquire American citizenship in a place and date she cannot disclose due to some American Law against it.

Now, what does this portend for Sanwolu?

Trust me, if this is proven, then it’s “ite missa est” for Sanwolu. This is because the Supreme Court has ruled in Diri vs Lyon (Bayelsa Deputy Governor-Elect that had multiple names) that the Governorship candidate and his deputy are Siamese twins that are inseparable. Therefore, what happens to one, affects the other.

Now, why is the US immigration lawyer’s testimony a bad news for Hamzat?

Because the Nigerian Constitution states in section 177, that to be elected as governor of any state in Nigeria, you must be a Nigerian by birth. Now, we can agree that Hamzat is a Nigerian by birth but he has willingly relinquished that privilege when he renounced his Birth place (Nigeria) to take up the citizenship of another country. Or can his citizenship by birth privilege still subsist after he renounced Nigeria? I think not.

Now, is their any law against Hamzat’s action? Yes. Section 182 of the 1999 Constitution categorically states that one cannot be elected governor “if he has willingly pledged allegiance to another country”. That’s exactly what Hazmat has done.

NB: Every constitutional qualification requirement for the office of governor applies equally to the deputy governor since he is a “governor in waiting” should anything happen to the governor.

So, there you have it, except the petitioners fail to prove that indeed Hazmat renounced his Nigerian citizenship, or that Hazmat is able to prove that he renounced his American citizenship (impossible since it was stated in his INEC form), or some sort of technicality comes into play, Sanwolu will not be remaining the governor of Lagos State. And LP doesn’t even need to border proving rigging or voter suppression or failure to upload to IREV, this case alone, is enough to booth Sanwolu out.

But this is Nigeria!

All eyes on the judiciary!

Maybe he didn’t finish with his doctors on time🤣🤣🤣

Just as the deputy governor of Lagos State was getting exposed to have denounced his Nigerian citizenship which renders him incapable of holding such executive office as he currently occupies (if the allegation is proven), the governor of Enugu State, Peter Mbah, was having his own dose of legal troubles as a representative of the DG of NYSC presented evidence at the tribunal to show that Mbah submitted false NYSC certificate to INEC which has forced the tribunal to order Mbah to appear before it on Friday (tomorrow).

Except technicalities, a lot of governors might be sacked by different election tribunals.

The Enugu State Governorship Election Petition Tribunal, on Thursday, ordered Governor Peter Mbah to appear before it on Friday (tomorrow), to testify regarding his alleged forgery of his National Youth Service Corps discharge certificate.

The order followed an application made by the Peoples Redemption Party, through its Counsel, Mr Alex Amujiogo.

Mbah, who was declared winner of the March 18 governorship election in Enugu State by the Independent National Electoral Commission is facing a mounting challenge from the Labour Party candidate, Chijioke Edeoga and PRP candidate, Elder Christopher Agu over his alleged forgery of the NYSC certificate presented to the electoral umpire.

The PRP candidate, Agu like the LP candidate is seeking to upturn the declaration of Mbah as the winner of the 2023 governorship election in the state.

Agu in a petition filed before the Tribunal is claiming among others that Mbah was not qualified to contest the election, having allegedly forged his NYSC discharge certificate.

At the resumed hearing, on Thursday, the PRP’s counsel, Amujiogo told the tribunal that Mbah was supposed to be in court as a subpoenaed witness.

He, however, said from the affidavit deposed to by the bailiff of the Tribunal, it had been difficult to serve Mbah the summons.

Amujiogo then moved an application, urging the Tribunal to grant a substituted service of the summons on Mbah through his counsel.

Although the application was opposed by the three respondents, the INEC, Mbah as well as the Peoples Democratic Party, on the grounds that it was supposed to come by way of motion, supported by an affidavit during the pre-trial session.

However, they were overruled by the Tribunal.

Consequently, the Chairman of the Panel, Justice K. M. Akano ordered that the subpoena be served on Mbah through his counsel and that he should appear before the Tribunal on Friday, June 23, 2023.

Meanwhile, the PRP governorship candidate earlier during the session also testified before the Tribunal as PW2.

An official of the NYSC from the National Secretariat, Abuja, Mr Aliu Muhammed, who also appeared on behalf of the Director-General of the Corps, tendered an affidavit to the Tribunal, declaring that an order of a Federal High Abuja, was inhibiting them from tendering the disclaimer the Corps made against Mbah's certificate.

Muhammed was in court following subpoenas on NYSC.

Addressing journalists, PRP lawyer, Amujiogo said, “Our PW2 (Christopher Agu) has already testified before the Honourable Tribunal and he has given a clearer picture, the synopsis of what transpired during the election and we are urging the Tribunal to set aside the purported result in favour of Peter Mbah, the Governor.

“We had an issue of a subpoena against Barrister Peter Ndubuisi Mbah, in which the Tribunal is urging him to appear before it to clarify certain issues against him, based on his NYSC certificate and other matters.

“Surprisingly, he was not in the Tribunal today and the bailiff informed the Tribunal that he is invading service, he cannot find him, and the security cannot allow him to serve Mbah the subpoena.

“Then, the Tribunal in its own wisdom, after I have applied, has now permitted the bailiff or myself, to now serve Mbah through his counsel, for him to appear before the Tribunal tomorrow, being 23rd of June, 2023 and clarify certain issues against him before the Tribunal and we have already served him the said subpoena through his lawyer, Ik Onuoma today in court.

“So, he must obey the summon of the Tribunal by appearing in person tomorrow, Friday.”

Meanwhile, the case filed by the Labour Party governorship candidate, Mr Chijioke Edeoga also came up before the Tribunal.

The pending interlocutory application which was filed on May 16 over Mbah's alleged NYSC certificate forgery, was moved before the Tribunal.

Edoga is asking the tribunal to disqualify Mba over the alleged forgery, an act that he claims, violates Section 182 (j) of the Nigerian Constitution.

During the resumed sitting of the Tribunal on Thursday, the Petitioners through their Counsel Mr M. J. Numa, moved their interlocutory application, after which the suit was adjourned for ruling on the application on Saturday, May 24, as well as a pre-trial report.

Addressing journalists shortly after the Tribunal's session, one of Edeoga's lawyers, Ifeanyi Ogenyi, said the proceeding was a continuation of the pre-hearing session.

https://saharareporters.com/2023/06/22/enugu-tribunal-orders-governor-mbah-appear-friday-over-alleged-certificate-forgery

Menclothing:
Nobody rigged anybody in the north Christians voted Atiku and some Muslims majority voted tinubu

Tinubu was rigged in.

Thank you.

arsenal33:
let Tinubu rule Nigeria the same way

Has anybody stopped him from ruling however he wants?

Lol!

The Kaduna pigmy won’t be happy with this news.

The North was running from Obi’s reforms and decided to rig Tinubu in. But they did not know that it is Tinubu they should have ran from.

Now, Tinubu will disrupt this country if he stays 4 years.

He will restructure this country in a way that all the advantages the north has had all these while will be quashed - Tinubu never liked the imbalance in the country.

Obi!

The bone they could not swallow!

The man they could not arrest!

The white they could not stain!

I’m sure they never believed an Igbo man would be the one holding them by the balls like this.

Doesn’t matter the outcome of the court, Obi has earned his respect and idiots like Kwankwaso who were running their mouth before the election are now hiding in shame.

The PDP man is mad.

If dictatorship is what will save Abia then let Otti freely dictate.

What have they gained with democracy since 1999?

Mad people are crying because dem commot feeding bottle for their mouth.

Ndi ala!

omenka:
I told these people years ago that it won't be business as usual for the e-war they wagged against Buhari. The Yorubas are as tech savvy as you lot, and will match your vicious online thuggery word for word with a Yoruba man as president.

The reason you lot are crying now is because you're not finding it easy to dominate the space as you did under Buhari. You had your way because most northerners don't care much about things that happen on this space.

You've met your match. Man up and stop acting like a sissy in skirts.

So you admit you lots are pushing propaganda? In the name of matching Igbos?

I totally condemn this if it’s true.

But I said this thing here when Mbah started dabbling into IPOB affair from the very first week he was sworn in.

I said it that he should have taken a cue from Soludo who took same route and it boomeranged. But Tinubu Owambe boys were here applauding him. Now his filling station is up in flames, they are now saying “it’s family affair”.

Soon, these stupid politicians will learn to abide by the pulse and wishes of Igbos and not pander to stupid nonsense so that they can be considered nationalistic.

INEC declared you governor, just shut up and concentrate on wowing Enugu people with magical governance but no, you want to show the hard man you are not.

Tactless idiots!

chidiokay:
Can you be reasonable enough not to stop talking shit, olodo
NIP is NIBSS i.e NIBSS instant payment which is used for instant transfer from an account to one account at a time. whether you use OPay or you are Using GTB we are routed through NIP.

The 2nd banking option is NEFT, most used by institutions & parastatals to transfer funds to multiple recipient at once and it take mininum of 24hrs to reflect cos of clearing process.

Not everyone on NL is gullible, stop insulting our intelligence here if you don't know shut up.

how dare you tell me bank use NIBSS and Opay use NIP, olodo

Good to see that I gave you assignment that kept your brain busy and sent you through the research table.

Before you went on this research, did you agree there was an alternative to NIBSS? No.

Now you know. And I will restate it that NIBSS network was deliberately jammed during the elections to prevent dubious politicians, like the character you are supporting, from easily moving money electronically after cash was deliberately withdrawn from the system for the same purpose.

Or you also believe that Naira redesign was about terrorists?

senatordave1:
Must I be? With all these experience, I am a kind of authority

No matter how many times you attend a football match, you can never become a referee unless you go through the training.

So, my dear, you are no authority and until the right authority speaks, Tinubu is on borrowed time.

senatordave1:
Obi has not proven anything sir.yes inec promised to transmit but he failed to show that inec failed to transmit.

Are you one of the judges on the panel?

senatordave1:
When obi has failed to prove beyond doubt,what do you expect?

I already told you how it happened in akpabio case,you still progress in error

Obi has proven beyond doubt that INEC promised to transmit results but failed.

The implication is that INEC failed to obey both its own guidelines and the Electoral Act 2022.

That’s sufficient ground to nullify the entire process.

chidiokay:
The way you spew nonsense with so much confident, dem suppose dey slap you from junction to junction nii

NIBISS deliberately jammed there network ?? really ? Do even know what is "TRAFFIC" and what huge traffic does to host servers

so why were the transfers on 3rd party apps going, or the transfers from Opay, fairmomey & co don't use NIBISS network

I once did Cryto trading and i understand there are days transfer to a certain bank will be failing while other banks are going, there are days i will have to warn customers using First bank not to do transfer, those days GTB will fail and access bank will go was that NIBISS deliberately 🤣🤣🤣

Traffic is the major culprits here, Web servers have bandwith and it crashes mostly when Traffic surges high, within a min i can fund my sportybet account mid week but on weekends once matches start transaction begins to lagg

Lemme educate you a little.

While Commercial Banks use NIBSS, alternative payment platforms like Opay, Palmpay, etc, use NIP.

The NIBSS network was jammed because that’s the channel from which politicians would have chosen to move large volume of money electronically in the absence of cash.

The NIP network was free because the users of that platform were not the targeted audience. How many politicians have account on Opay or Palmpay.

See, I don’t know if you are being deliberate or do you really mean that you don’t know that withdrawal of cash from the system and poor experience in electronic transactions during the election was deliberate from the government?

senatordave1:
You already know how it will be

Yeah.

The judiciary is already bought.

People that gave Akpabio and Lawan ticket without them contesting primaries, it would amount to foolhardiness if we expect them to give a fearless and disruptive judgment as sacking a sitting president.

They are already sorted. That’s why you have the confidence to tell me what the outcome will be.

inoki247:
Lol go prove your case....

Not all this noise....



INEC website didn't have any glitch but the AMC staff couldn't submit her name on dere Portal you people should continue with the Noise..

Why don’t we wait until the court gives her verdict before we know if it’s noise.

inoki247:
Lol I didn't follow you to suffer any bank glitches on election day I sent money to people severally on that day I don't know where you got your fake news from...


Even in my polling unit vote were bought with Bank transfer....



You people and making up jargons in ur head....



There are times UBA will have issues and GTB won't have can we say that's NiBSS....


You just making up things in ur head....



You don't know anything about Website so rest that's why you're looking for a way to twist the matter....


If is so sure for u sue INEC on behalf of Amazon and see the results u will get....

INEC website didn’t suffer any glitches.

QED.

lhordspy:
No, i didnt argue that it must come from the AIG ranks. I only predicted the AIG rank would get the post. My prediction was based on past appointment. The constitution was very clear in the police act; IGP must come from rank not below AIG and DIG. So any of the rank can get the post.

Secondly, Egbetokun is acting-IGP, boss. And we all know why he is the chosen one. His close ties with Tinubu dated back 1999 when he was his CSP. And we also know the only thing that played against Jitoboh, like i said earlier is that he is from South-South.

I still believe someone from the AIG rank will be the next IGP. This move by Tinubu is to reward Egbetokun for his loyalty, prepare the DIGs for retirement, and give them more time. Including Mba Frank.

But congrats anyways to the SE on the appointment of Ikechukwu Ogalla as Navy Chief. The man was sidelined all along in the Navy force. Nobody saw his appointment coming. Are you now convince now that Tinubu's administration is going to be an all inclusive government?

Tinubu made 22 appointments in a day. Only 1 went to Igbos.

And you want Igbos to celebrate that?

Zamrito:
You are very right... They think they are God among all others igbos,but there's not a single thing special about them.

Go and rest.

We are not complaining.

Don’t complain on behalf of the rest of Igbos.

BabaRamota1980:
There needs to be clarification on the promotion of Rear Admiral Ikechukwu Ogalla to Chief of Nava Staff.

The last Chief from Iboland was under Jonathan. Ihejirika was from Abia State. Buhari did not appoint any Ibo into Chief position. Tinubu has appointed a Ibo Chief for Navy. Rear Admiral Ogalla is from Enugu.

There has never been a military Chief from Anambra. This is where the bad belle is coming from.

Those who understand the politics of Iboland will agree that Anambra people see themselves as the elite class of Iboland and they look down condescendingly on rest of Ibo States and their people.

They are the ones online tearing the new Chief of Naval Staff apart. They ought to jubilate and rejoice that an Ibo has made it to Chief, but they are instead bitter because he is not from Anambra.

Their comments in social media is very repulsive. Bad belle people.

So the next propaganda now is to divide Igbos into Anambra and others?

So that Igbos from other 4 states will start seeing Anambra people, including Obi, as enemies?

So funny that you people think you have sense. But we are always a million miles ahead of you.

Please try another tale, this one is stale.

AsomughaChuks05:
Now the ugly-looking keke will take over every part of the town. Almost all Nigerian cities now look like slums with those keke moving around.

But they are safer because robbers don’t find it attractive to use for robbery because it doesn’t have speed and balance.

Again, it doesn’t break people’s legs like Okada.

Lol!

The press has made this guy their darling.
They will always set him up by approaching him to get his view on issues.

The only way he’d escape what the press want to do to him is if he stops granting interviews to them.

Aside that, expect to hear of Amobi Ogah for the next four years.