₦airaland Forum

Danisaint112:
Must Tinubu Supporters are simply dumbos. Reason they can't discern between a bad omen and a good one.

I will expect less from someone that is supporting a known criminal who still proudly admits to be a criminal (the snatch and run away with it mantra)

It’s really pathetic🤦

One of the most shocking revelations that has come out of the ongoing President Election Petition is the fact that INEC has summarily deleted everything that has to do with the presidential election from the BVAS which, according to Supreme Court ruling in the case involving Adeleke and Oyetola, is supposed to serve as one of the primary sources of evidence towards determining the true facts of what happened on Election Day.

The Commission argues however that they got court order that allowed them to “reconfigure” (not delete) the BVAS for governorship elections after the presidential election.

But the court was explicit in that order when it ordered INEC to make sure that the CTC of the presidential election data were properly printed and the Accreditation Data warehoused in INEC’s database. But INEC flouted this court order and went ahead to delete files from the BVAS machines.

What is most surprising also is that INEC also deleted files from the BVAS machines that were used for the presidential election in the FCT. One now wonders if governorship election also took place in the FCT.

But just when INEC thought they had covered their traces and perfected their criminality, Atiku hired a forensic expert, Hitler Nwala, who examined about 110 BVAS machines and discovered that all the presidential election data they contained had been wiped out. He was however able to retrieve all the deleted files through the use of a tool he called ”Celebral Physical Analyser”.

And that’s it; INEC can run but it cannot hide. And the criminality they perpetuated on the 25th February will catch up with them sooner than later.

“AllEyeOnTheJudiciary!

Nlfpmod
Mynd44

Danisaint112:
Common English. The guy penguin2 said "might" and not "will"

Learn to read in-between the lines.

My brother I tire o!

You can imagine the kind of characters we are dealing with and their level of cognitive abilities.

What my comment is suggesting is that Tinubu might likely be sacked by the courts before Christmas which would make him not celebrate Christmas as president. But the unfortunate character understood it that I’m wishing Tinubu dead.

Our educational standards has really nosedived to the extent that I pity the future of this country🤦

Mufasa27:
Let me guess you are a Christian but still pained because Obi lost, reason why you wish death on the president right Lol no weapon fashioned against that man shall prosper, and I hope your dad don't live to see November. Omo werey

So saying he might not celebrate Christmas as “Nigeria’s president” means I’m wishing Tinubu dead?

Is that what your cognitive faculties could deduce from my comment?

Na so!

He can as well relocate to Pink House.

Let him enjoy it while it lasts.

Cuz he might not celebrate Christmas as Nigeria’s president.😏

grandstar:
The Ebonyi people are the simplest of Igbos. They are like other tribes. They are unique in that way and I am proud of that.

If you don't like them, then it's best they cut you off like the Ikwerres, the Opobos, the Delta Igbo have done. Those Igbos would rather perish than accept they are Igbo. You know I am saying the truth.

Those "igbos" claim they are descendants of the Benin empire. Since the Ebonyi people are of Benue and Cross River descent, perhaps it's time they showed you the door.

"He who thinks he is something when he is nothing is deceiving himself" as the apostle Paul said.

This Igbo pride by some here is fuelling the tribal wars on Nairaland. If you could tear down your own tribe, non-Igbos are therefore game. I hate chestbeating.

So you can’t see the idiot is not Igbo?

You are letting commissioned agents who want to divide Igbos deceive you?

phemray:
Have u ever see him doing this since or b4 he joined politics?? No. So it's not in him he started recently cos of politics. Even churches that he went to are mostly for first time cos of politics.

Just watch it, he will start going to the north for programs and familiarity soon after election petition is over. All for d north to know him. So it's politics and strategy now

Obi has always celebrated Eid with Muslims since he was governor.

He has always attended church events since he was governor.

And hey, there won’t be any need for him to continue after Election Petitions are over because he would be president then.

oladipuposadeeq:
on a normal day that's how obi is. I knew him then when I follow my dad to his warehouse in apapa then to pick corn starch. He is very relatable and down to earth, its just that they some people have used politics to ruin relationships between family and friends even religious and ethnic wahala

Thank you!

It’s so unfortunate that some Tinubu supporters have suspended reason because of politics.

That’s why they attack Obi even if it doesn’t make sense.

Opanka44:
Pls don't stoop so low to be replying such ill-informed people

Don’t mind me jare!

I just needed to reply him because of some unsuspecting public that mind be swayed by his narrative.

Na so!

Because of Tinubu, Ibori is now bold enough to issue statements in public. As what?

This is somebody that used to be very ashamed to even come outside but is now emboldened because a fellow criminal is now President and even invited him to Aso Rock.

I won’t be surprised if Asari Dokubo issues his message too.

Government of criminals, by criminals and for criminals😏

QuotaSystem:
Fortunately unlike easterners, northerners are not emotional, impulsive politicians that would support a weak candidate just to make a needless point. Why would we support a politician that can barely govern his constituency? Why would we tactlessly and unstrategically disturb the delicate North-South power rotation like GEJ did and jeopardize/destroy our political future? Again, we are not tactless easterners.

We wanted power to rotate to the South for the sake of one Nigeria and that stubborn fact wouldn’t change if you struck your head ceaselessly against a sharp rock



Yes and that’s why the North is enjoying the best representation under his government and haven’t uttered a whimper of dissatisfaction 🤡



Lol Shinedu wants to teach me Northern history. What do you know about Arewa? Lmao.

Have you EVER heard anyone from Kano, Katsina, Sokoto, Kebbi, Zamfara, Kaduna, Niger, Bauchi, Gombe, Nasarawa or Adamawa protest the choice of Shetimma?

That is because, while such ethnic differences could be played up by desperate elements in governorship and other local political contests, there is complete cultural and political unity of purpose among far Northerners in national politics

Not just Hausa, Fulani and Kanuri, which are the biggest groups. You can add the Nupe and a hundred other Northern ethnic groups in this united view of national politics. Furthermore, they are all subjects of, and pay allegiance to the Sultan of Sokoto.

Let me further enlighten you that thirty short years ago, the Abiola/Kingibe ticket recorded resounding political success in Hausa/Fulani heartland, including a big win in its heart of hearts, Kano. Ambassador Babagana Kingibe, like Kashim Shettima, is ethnic Kanuri while Asiwaju Tinubu, like M.K.O. Abiola, is ethnic Yoruba. No one in the North protested Kingibe’s appearance on the ticket then; no one is protesting Shettima’s place on the APC ticket now, certainly not on ethnic grounds. Up until 2019, Shettima was in fact Chairman of the Northern States Governors Forum, and he did a swell job of it.

P.S Mind you if Fulani is really your problem, then you have a major headache loading . Remember the powers of Shetimma as VP are actually less than someone like the NSA, a position held by Fulani Ribadu

Suck on that

Lol! Anything to comfort yourself.

But hey, Nuhu Ribadu is not Fulani. Even if he is, being from Adamawa, he is a bit distant from the hegemonistic disposition of Northwest Fulanis who are still interested in expanding Usman Dan Fodio’s Jihad. Ribadu on the other hand is refined and does not possess such anachronistic and regressive mentality.

You can see that Tinubu is strategical in shutting out Fulanis from sensitive positions in his government.

Buhari is the last Fulani that would have his kind mentality that would ascend to power in Nigeria.

Candidlady:
Please what is there to see abeg

What is there to see is that you need to see that Obi is not the religious bigot that you lots paint him to be.

You can see that it’s not campaign period but he’s visiting Mosques and giving them gifts.

So that when you see him doing this same thing during elections, you won’t say it’s for votes.

Peter Obi, today, celebrated the Eid with Muslims in Awka and Onitsha in Anambra State where he handed gifts and Cheques in the spirit of the season.

https://twitter.com/MissPearls/status/1674100666271404032?t=kNt9p8J91e32fMitfJO7BQ&s=19

QuotaSystem:
The Northern leadership in the interest of national unity, already had a consensus for power rotation to the south, which aligned with the in-house gentleman’s understanding between the northern and SW blocs in the APC on rotation, and made the emergence of PBAT smooth and seamless with minimal resistance from the North. Don’t forget Gov. Badaru also sacrificed his ambition for Tinubu.

If the North was bent on retaining the Presidency, we would have easily supported Atiku and he would have won effortlessly.



If Obi had not been in the race, it would have made absolutely no difference because Obi/SE would still not have won which is the crux of the matter.

It has been done ONCE, TWICE and THRICE by both a northerner and southerner so I don’t know what you’re on about. Any Presidential candidate can win a presidential election without S/East votes and that is an empirical fact



Obi was a tactless IPOB apologist and that automatically disqualified him from any Northern support, hegemony or not. If you call that disruptive then you’re absolutely right.

Nobody rigged the election for Tinubu no matter how much you keep consoling yourself with such fallacy. Arewa deliberately supported and voted for Asiwaju because he was the best candidate by far, which Is why it is certain that even if the election is conducted 200 times, Obi would still lose woefully.



It is your deeply rooted inferiority complex and selective memory that makes you think the North has exclusive preserve of any position. It’s now a southern Presidency and it is expected that positions would be rotated, just like was done under GEJ when the East was still relevant and occupied top cabinet positions.

Regardless, the North is the currently the most represented in Tinubu’s government and occupy the office of the VP, Speaker, NSA, Service Chiefs and important Presidential Aides and is on track to dominate the coming ministerial list, despite it being a southern Presidency so I wonder what’s “being taken from its mouth” if not that you’re looking for a lamentation partner to massage your current political reality ….Misery loves company.

You should be more worried about being sidelined, ignored, bypassed and irrelevant under a southern Presidency without any prospect of political relevance until 2039.

Sorry, if you people believe in yourself so much, you would have dared present Ahmed Lawan and know if APC wouldn’t have lost scandalously.

The problem you people have with Atiku is because he’s neither an ethnic jingoist nor a religious fundamentalist like Buhari or the Muslim Muslim ticket that Tinubu used to deceive you people.

Accept that Tinubu deceived you guys with Muslim Muslim ticket and you people fell for it.

And talking about Vice President Kashim Shettima…. Maybe I need to teach you a little history that Shettima is Kanuri, and the Kanuri are more vicious against Fulani hegemonists than even southerners. Need I remind you that the Kanuri defeated Usman Dan Fodio and halted his Jihad into Maiduguri and the Lake Chad Basin. So, you would be deceiving yourself to think that Shettima will serve the interest of ethnic jingoists and hegemonists.

Efewestern:
Penguin2 don't let that man convince you that they wanted a power shift. We saw the voting patterns and how they suddenly found their brother attractive despite voting against him in previous elections.

I only pity them because they are currently being weakened and there isn't any region they can manipulate. NC alliances is now split between Southern regions. SW won't bend, SE is no go area and SS is waking up.

The only good thing about this election was that arrogance and supremacist ideologies were cured. After now, nobody will try that nonsense of wanting to hold power in a diverse nation like Nigeria.

Lol! Do I seem to you like the kind of person that his rhetorics and rationalization will deceive? Lol!

He keeps talking about the North supporting power shift to the south as if they had a choice.

They should have given the ticket to Ahmed Lawan and try their luck if APC wouldn’t have lost the election scandalously.

Dotherightthing:
The FACT is that had Obi not contested, Atiku would have won easily before the sunset on February 25.

So we need to appreciate the obidients for supporting and voting Obi rather than Atiku.

I believe the online rivalries between Tinubu supporters and obidients was to give obidients the feeling that Peter Obi really stood a chance of winning so that they will not diss him for Atiku at the last minute.

Aside obidients, most of us knew Obi could NOT win. But had he stepped down for Atiku, Atiku would have won easily...

If you people believed Obi didn’t stand a chance, why did INEC upload Senatorial and House of Rep elections and failed to upload the presidential election which would have ensured transparency and eliminated manipulation of votes?

Why?

striker07:
the election wasn't 100 percent perfect but it's still one of our best elections, only obidients'think otherwise especially the Igbos among them,most especially, they are fond of laying claim without logic or any proof. That's a sign of low intelligence if you ask me.

Just yesterday, European Union Election Observation Mission presented their final report on the 2023 elections and scored the election low for lacking transparency and voter intimidation.

Is the European Union Igbo Obidients too?

Kukutenla:
Penguin2

Where are you going self? You are confusing me. Are you trying to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat or you're trying to "build" the much talked about bridges?

I hope you get what you want but i hope you're aware of the triumphalism on display presently. The Northern hawks and their south western collaborators feel they have the perfect formula for power now. It's like a communal drinking gourd being passed around but must never be allowed to get to the hands of scarface. You're too late to the party. The truth is, if you want to build bridges as is usually being said, you have to break the present barrier which a northerner on fp describes as the North-SouthWest alliance. 2039 is a long time and that's the earliest any "if you can't beat them, join them" posturing from your people can fetch you.

Maybe you are afraid of the demands of playing opposition. If so, I can only pity the country as a whole because totalitarianism is the result of that. On the other hand, I don't get your claim though. It can be said, if we are doing turn-by-turn, that Tinubu is using the turn of SE. The term south does not really exist as has been proven since 2015. Igbo and Yoruba cannot agree on anything and they are not even pretending to want to. APC is a party built to prey on divisions and not to unite the country.

So i hope you are writing this piece as a form of self-consolation rather than conciliation because you are very far from the latter than you can ever be.

Well, I’m not trying to be a Boethius who took solace in Consolation Philosophy in the midst of adversity. I’d say I’m just looking out for southern Nigeria and I want the northern stranglehold on a lot of things in this country disentangled.

About the north and southwest having found a winning strategy or alliance…. Well goodluck to them with that.

But that’s what I tried to address in this piece - that had Obi not decamped from PDP, that their useless alliance would have been defeated. And I would really like to see Tinubu grandstanding or misbehaving because he feels he has a northern and southwestern alliance. If SE/SS aligns with the north in 2027, that’s game over for him.

aswani:
Penguin2, I was never a President Tinubu man (neither am I an Atiku or Obi man for that matter), they are all part of the same recycled political class.

I said Obi would score less votes and I gave my reasons which I am still convinced are valid. Feel free to discuss why you have a different opinion to mine.

I didn't gloat over it, in fact, I decried it because it would force us the electorate back from into a PDP and APC joint chokehold.

If Peter Obi can somehow put on his big boy pants and disentangle himself from Obidients, I personally feel he will eventually rule this our great country one day.

Trust me when I tell you that Obi has not lost a single vote since the election.

Or can you tell me any supporter of his that u used to know that has switched sides either on social media or outside the social media?

Grayoso:
Yes I am a Tinubu supporter but I have never said he played no part in Buhari becoming President. I only insist Tinubu cannot ever, by any fair person, be blamed for Buhari's action in office.

Tinubu is a politician so his permanent political interest comes with the terrain always. The merger of APC he masterminded is an indication of this. I.e a movement to oust PDP and sieze power for ambitious politicians who wanted the chance to lead the centre by deposing the ruling Party.

Barcelona, Man City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and co would not dominate world football if they stop paying the most money others cannot pay to buy the best players who then help them win trophies that ensures they remain dominant forces in world football.

You would have to indict Tinubu of wrongdoing if, and only if, you can prove he had conclusive proof of how Buhari would unravel.

Or whether BAT had prior knowledge Buhari, 100% guaranteed, would pursue a Fulani supremacist agenda yet still went ahead to support him to be President.

Of course Tinubu, and even many Yoruba politicians, helped Buhari become President with the implication PMB would return the favour later.

That is politics and you'd be dishonestly naive thinking it does not carry a '"one good turn deserve another" element worldwide. All successful leaders strategize and plan ahead and that is was Tinubu and the Yorubas did.

I genuinely believe that Tinubu, even given previous reservations about Buhari, felt PMB would be a good democrat who would lead minimally well and progressively to then put the APC in good standing to win easily in 2023 thus benefitting his own private political ambition no one can fault him for desiring.

No, no, no, no…. I disagree 100% with you in your claim that Tinubu didn’t know how Buhari would unravel in power. He knew, everyone with the remotest analytical skill knew.

In fact, to say Tinubu didn’t know how Buhari would unravel in power would be a huge indictment of what you guys always tout as Tinubu’s selling point - the fact that he has eyes for talent.

But asides Tinubu’s nack for identifying talent, there was a Buhari past history that is public knowledge which was not good at all to deserve him getting another opportunity at Nigeria’s leadership.

Again, while campaigning for Nuhu Ribadu in 2011, Tinubu publicly criticized the character that Buhari is and said a lot of unprintable things about him (which were not lies anyways). Remember that Buhari was a candidate in that election but Tinubu ended up cutting a deal with Jonathan to support his election that year.

So, you see that you can’t claim that Tinubu didn’t know that Buhari was a disaster waiting to happen to Nigeria. The only asset Buhari possessed which Tinubu found useful was his popularity in the north which you know is due to his perceived religious fundamentalism and not because of his capacity. So, Tinubu found his popularity useful and willingly subscribed Nigeria to the Buhari's 8 years of disaster simply because it served his (Tinubu) expediency.

So, please, don’t say Tinubu didn’t know who Buhari would be in power. That’s sooooooooo wrong. It was a deliberate act.

aswani:
And If it isn't?

What has Atiku or Obi taking over IF Tinubu is disqualified got to do with me being happy we have a third force in Naija politics?

Did you even mean to respond to my post or someone else's?

You are pretending like you are not a Tinubu man anymore?

Or have you forgotten you said Obi won’t half of the votes he scored in the first ballot if elections are held again? Which is why I reminded you that from what is going on at the tribunal, Tinubu might not be eligible for a rerun if justice was to take its course in court.

Now you are saying you don’t care. If you didn’t care, then why gloat over supposed Obi’s diminished popularity?

Grayoso:
We may disagree but ideas and reforms that will outlast us and continue to work for generations unborn is the koko of the matter. It gives hope we may get it right even if not for us, but for our offsprings and theirs.

The bigger picture, whether intentional or by divine intervention, is that Obi left PDP to Labour. I have accused him of being a coward for that move but Buhari's 8 year rule , with all that is being revealed today, was a huge disaster and lesson in how a nation with great potential can sabotage and regress herself.

If obi contested the PDP primaries and lost then Atiku will be President and that would be a disaster.

A Northerner replacing Buhari would have finished Nigeria off. I sincerely believe this and I think Atiku is the worst because in no civilised clime, with a sophisticated electorate, will even 10 citizens consider voting a man who lives outside the nation he wants to lead at all times but during general elections.

You'd not believe in living with a people, especially when they are troubled and needing solutions like the covid 19 lock down period, yet you insist you are best to lead them. Nigeria is still a crude joke.

You are very right about the bolded. But unfortunately a lot of people on your political divide are too emotional, irrational, shortsighted and tribalistic to think in same light with you on that. The fact that the best thing that will happen to Nigeria is a marriage of the entire 3 regions of the south which would see them always present a united front at elections and other issues in the Nigerian political space and you will see the north on her knees forever. But if there’s one politician who is to blame for making that marriage is not working, it is your Tinubu who, together with his supporters, only campaigns with things that divide the south rather than things that unite. And months after the election, Tinubu’s supporters are still reinforcing hatred without restraints or cautioning from anyone. What does that suggest?


Again, it’s usually funny to me when I hear some of you call Obi a coward for refusing to join Atiku and Wike in dollar war at the PDP Primaries. Wait, you expected Obi to see out the PDP primaries which would have meant that he had to mobilize enough foreign currency to outspend both Atiku and Wike? How would that have made any different from those he’s seeking to replace?

Osinbajo did this thing you are saying, how did it end for him? He was outspent and outmuscled by Tinubu, and now we may never have an Osinbajo presidency (what a loss).

Again, Wike also did it PDP. He thought he had arrived, and was big enough to fight Atiku for the PDP ticket. How did it end for him? He almost ran mad; and still hasn’t recovered.

I used to think you guys say these things just to see what to mock Obi with but I’m seeing you have always been serious about it. But what I need you to understand is that the criminal ruling class deliberately hijacked the two parties of PDP and APC so they would always midwife the emergence of one of theirs from these parties.

What Obi did was an anomaly and a pulling of the rug off their feet. Before they knew what was happening there was already a conflagration of support for Obi. They tried to put out the fire but it was already beyond them. That was why they ended up rigging the election childishly just to stop Obi.

So, on what ground did you really blame Obi for not engaging in dollar contest with Atiku and Wike in PDP?

DMerciful:
Obi won the election hands down and his mandate will be retrieved

Amen!

obailala:
If Atiku was a reasonable candidate, then the logic being shared on this page would have been sensible.

For everyone saying "OBI's decision to contest lost ATIKU the presidency", what exactly would OBI or the Obidients who simply want good governance have gained from an ATIKU presidency?... a useless vice presidency which we all know is as useless as a councillorship position?...

The other day some unfortunate fellow claimed "OBI at least would have gotten contracts" had Atiku won and I was beyond disgusted; apparently these cretins think OBI and the Obidients were in the contest for contracts and money.

At the end, the folks spreading this silly narrative that OBI made a mistake contesting are either hungry disgruntled PDP/Atiku minions, or just foolish Tinubu supporters who want to mock Obidients (cos I dont see how it concerns the BATists that Atiku lost the election). In both cases, these group of people appear to be too dumb to realise the essence of the Obidient movement which was just a call for good and responsible governance.

Thank you!

And the Obidient Movement has changed the politics of Nigeria forever.

Personally I’m happy Obi stopped Atiku from succeeding.

Grayoso:
While I am not a fan of Obi, and do not think him fit to be President, I think all pragmatic Nigerians who wish our nation well should thank him for denying PDP the votes that would have seen Atiku emerge President.

Nigerians have short memory but the Northern plots, spearheaded in APC and PDP, to deny a strong and independent minded Southerner becoming President was well organised, well supported and desperate.

We saw this with APC with the way Buhari and his Northern supremacist were happy and willing to destroy their own Party to stop Tinubu emerging the Party's candidate.

Beginning from their deliberate effort to divide and sabotage APC as far back as the needless and totally suicidal self-destructive actions that made the Party lose Edo State.

So much happened in the APC that showed some Northerners have no interest in being loyal to the integrity and efficacy of Political Parties.

Emefiele was even encouraged to attempt to be President in all the confusion and madness Buhari and his crew caused.

The incoherent joke Buhari made the APC saw so many buy Primaries ticket in a shambolic horsetrading charade that indicated factions in the APC were trying to outsmart themselves.

Hardly will you see Political Parties run this disracefully and shambolically anywhere else in the world, let along a ruling Party, but this was what Buhari and his Northern hawks caused because they could not accept that their time is over and that the strongest from the South had the right to contest and win.

PDP was no different with the arrogance and power-drunkeness of Atiku supported by the machinations of Tambuwal etal.

Long and short, the North was desperate to retain power directly, through a PDP Atiku win , or indirectly through a Southern stooge, like Emefiele, as the APC President.

It would have been a disaster and Nigeria will surely not survive a Northern Presidency since Buhari had totally destroyed the nation (security, economy, badly divided citizens etal) and another Northerner, because most mainly only play Conservative, illiberal, non-progressive and expedient politics, would see us finished.

I therefore thank Obi. I believe he saved Nigeria in his own way and God or Karma used him to ensure our nation qas not conceded into hands that would see her fall into the abyss when some had already taken her to the edge of the cliff.

The last 8 years reminded most Nigerians, painfully, that the North is not into developmental politics.
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I know you are a Tinubu man but thanks for getting my point.

Had the north succeeded in 2023, they would have seen different regions of the south as useful idiots and take turns to align with any region they choose at different point in time to retain power.

That’s a pattern that Obi stopped from even kickstarting. But some of your fellow Tinubu supporters that are shallow minded are too myopic to see and admit this.

aswani:
For me, I will always be grateful to Peter Obi for being a genuine third way in Nigerian politics in these elections.

With these elections, we as Nigerians have made incredible strides and I was pleasantly surprised seeing results come in. Tinubu losing in Lagos, PDP winning in Osun, Tinubu beating Atiku in the North and winning Rivers. Obi winning in Edo ad Abuja.

Overwhelming Peter Obi victories in the South East were quite dissapointing but you can't have it all.

Sadly however, thanks to those toxic Obidients, all the gains from the elections have dissappeared into thin air. Obidients have successfully turned Peter Obi into an Igbò project.

If the elections were nullified and held again, Obi is coming an even more distant third and worse still, we would be back under the APC and PDP choke hold.

What a shame. 2 steps forward and three steps back. Obidients una well done ó.

Breaking News: if the election is nullified, Tinubu would equally be disqualified which means that you would be left with either Atiku or Obi.

Thanks!

monakii:
As a Nigerian, Obi was never wrong to contest and will never be. If anybody was wrong to contest, though on morality ground, it has to be the northerners, Atiku (and perhaps, kwankwaso) based on existential arrangement i.e zoning between South and North.

However, a part of your argument that it is the turn of the Christian, South and southeast, made me realize people like you are why Obi lost and will likely lose future elections.
Are Muslims from the south not Nigerians enough to be presidents? Are Christians in the North not human beings? Religion is not part of our mix. It's just a tool Politicians adopt to maneuver and gain cheap control over the minds of gullible electorates.
May be Obi would have won a direct electoral contest against Tinubu. May be! But the question is- after all that southeast has invested in PDP, why is Atiku not wrong to take the turn of the Southeast in PDP but Tinubu was demonized to the pit of hell for pursuing his legitimate ambition within APC where he has waited patiently and invested all his resources?

In fact, If you dig my past comments, hereon, you will see where I said the next president must come from the south but I disagree with mocrozoning to any specific sub-region because I, personally hate bigotry and extremism. Nigeria needs a nationalist as president not an ethnic opportunist or a quota system beneficiary. No president can emerge in Nigeria with such luck - Not even the popular Buhari of the almighty Northern hegemony. He failed on multiple attempts! Hence, the Buhari-Tinubu alliance of 2015.
If Obi (and/or anyother Ibo politicians in PDP) had succeeded in winning the PDP presidential tickets to their region, I may have voted for him/them. But I perished that idea immediately after seeing what the Ibos were doing to Tinubu but couldn't look Atiku in his face. And for that, I will continue to respect Wike- for challenging his audacity.

Finally, I am above all, happy for the twists in our political trajectories and space- including the legal fireworks and multiplicity of oppositions and how it will likely provoke some necessary development and change we all seek as a Nation. The President has no breathing space hence, he must explore all avenues to assuage and heal the sufferings of all and the angst of some.


PS: I advise that the Ibos need more bridgebuilding especially with the Yorubas and southsouth to form an invincible south that can effect the needed change to birth a new and better Nigeria.

Peace.

Sorry, but are implicitly calling Obi an “ethnic opportunist”?

And what kind of bridge do you want the southeast to build with the Southsouth and Southwest that it hasn’t built?

Frigga13:
Penguin is a bird of myopic reasoning..

Oga decamp with your full chest and stop playing bacarnista tony..

You were all warned .. a vote for Obi is an advantage to tinubu Apc..
op in particular damed it .. only to write English

Nairaland kids

As an Atiku man and a northerner, I understand your pain.

You people really wanted to transition from a northerner to another northerner while southern regions would just be your useful idiots.

ajailer:
See the OP trying to change the narrative as if say we dey suffer from short memory. We will never forget that the easterners wanted Obi of LP and if he can’t win, they will be fine with Atiku winning as long as it’s not BAT. Now see as he dey change the narrative wey never reach one year say If Obi no win then they will be happy with BAT. They were operating from a tribal sentiment and that a northerner handing over to another northerner was never a concern to them. In fact, it was the batist that were concerned about this.

Obidients have never been a sincere group and it was easy for me to see through their drama. Batists are more sincere, they know their man no get too good a record and dem no polish am up, instead their selling point was on BAT past record of performance but what do we say bout the obidients(kettle calling pot black)

If we wanted Atiku, why didn’t we vote for him?🤔

Grayoso:
Nice post plus objective and fair observations. Love your conclusion as well. The part in bold, in your post, is very important to me personally.

This ia because, as I have always argued, Nigeria needs to evolve urgently like the West so that a powerfully responsible governance system is in place no one can hijack partisanly and as dangerously unchecked as Buhari did.

We could have experienced free-for-all Rwanda-style genocide with how Buhari was leading if not that Nigeria is the biggest black nation on Earth that would mean world intervention would be swift to prevent refugee crisis, humanitarian strife, proliferation of diseases etc.

I personally think there should be more anger against what Buhari and his cabal did, and more determination against a future repeat of it, than the singular focus of many Nigerians to dwell on who "brought Buhari" or supported him to power.

We now must charge Tinubu to deliver robust legislative laws, appropriate contitutional amendments, greater state and regional autonomy and strong institutional autonomy, plus legally-enforceable checks and balances, that will mean a Buhari will never happen to us again.

Buhari owed many Fulanis, who did not know better, Awolowo-type 'teach a man to fish' leadership.

Instead he chose to provide protection for deficiencies any wise leader would know he must eradicate from his people as Awolowo determined to provide free and quality education as a way to elevate and emancipate Yorubas forever.

Nigeria should heal and no one, from any ethnic group , should be prevented from being Presidenf in future.

The focus should be on working to deliver strong reforms that must mean a Hitler-type bigot, if he somehow fools enough Nigerians to get the vote to become President, cannot partisanly destroy the security, socio-economic wellbeing and even monetary integrity of Nigeria in pursuit of an ethnocentric or sectional agenda.

No UK Prime Minister today can tacitly, using the police and army, empower caucasians to run through minority-dominated areas killing, raping, pllillaging and maiming folks there.

That PM would not last even an hour in office. Yer Buhari did it for years and the entire Nigeria kept slient, tolerated it and even accepted it as a way of life.

That is what we have to change so we can become like Nations with strong laws and institutions. I would consider Tinubu failed if he does not deliver this.

ObJ, Yar Adua, GEJ ans Buhari have their fans and praise-singers for some good they did but the only President Nigerians can/should praise as successful would be one who evolutionarily reforms Nigeria so, for example, savagery and brutality are a thing of the past because State/regional policing exist rather than leaders (OBJ and GEJ) who will declare "Nigeria not ripe for State policiing" or those (like Buhari) who will not even indulge the idea let alone be open to discussing it.

Great submission but you couldn’t help but betray the fact that you are a Tinubu man.

Till eternity, Tinubu will continue to take blame for Buhari disaster.

Buhari had already retired to Daura when Tinubu went and excavated him and used media to dress him up as a refined democrat and other crap.

And considering the characters behind Buhari and how bloodthirsty they were, they imported mercenaries to cause mayhem should Buhari lose which was why GEJ caved in. The resultant effect was a Buhari disaster.

And you say we should stop blaming Tinubu?

Someone causes you to be imprisoned for 8 years and when you are finally out, you will say, “there’s no need blaming him”, really?

aswani:
Una jus like to dey argue wen una no get point sha.

As the guy write in his eloquent post, Buhari did it twice and President Tinubu, despite 95% and above votes for Obi in the South East, has just done it again.

That’s why I said that you people are right na.

Tell Tinubu to exclude the Southeast; they don’t matter.

But just a little education…

Buhari was able to win the election in 2015 and 2019 with northern and western votes because Buhari is overly popular in the north.

In 2023, the reason you are talking about Tinubu now is because Obi took the votes of southeast and Southsouth away from Atiku and Atiku was forced to make due with only northern votes.

Again, there was a certain Kwankwaso to help waste northern votes.

I don’t expect you to accept this reality. I expect you to comfort yourself with what makes you happy.

But don’t forget to advise Tinubu to exclude the Southeast since their votes is useless.

Meanwhile, this is one of you below claiming (before the election) that Obi will not score 744k votes. I’m sure Obi didn’t even score up to 500k votes nationwide….

QuotaSystem:
Self consolation built on fallacies, upon the final realization of Obi’s non-existent mandate.



The North was not taught any lesson, you’re pretending to forget that our Northern governors willfully conceded the Presidential ticket to the South, which makes Tinubu’s Presidency a fulfilled agenda.

We were deliberate and intentional about a Tinubu Presidency for two main reasons:

1. The existence of Nigeria as it is. If we had backed a north-north Presidential transition, more southerners would be disillusioned at the concept of “one Nigeria” and would be drawn the ‘gospel’ of burgeoning secessionist forces. IPOB and Oduduwa agitators would have hijacked the sentiment of discontent for their agenda.

2. We knew Atiku neither had capacity nor track record of performance & was only an opportunistic, corrupt politician that couldn’t provide the kind of progressive governance that Nigeria sorely needs. Now we are in pole position for 2031 Presidency and have earned the trust/loyalty of our SW allies who have pledged to reciprocate in due course.

If it was the north’s intention to retain power, we would have voted en-bloc for PDP and the 2 million votes lead Tinubu enjoyed would have been non-existent and Atiku would have won the election.

In raw numbers crunched by TheCable Index, Tinubu beat Atiku in the north-west, scoring 2,652,824 votes compared to his opponent’s 2,197,824. Not only were Atiku’s margins in some of the states narrow, Tinubu took a whopping half a million votes in Kano alone.
In fact, Tinubu got 30 percent of his total votes from the north-west alone. That is almost one-third.

Another fallacy is the notion that Obi had any chance to win the North Central. That is a notion that existed solely in the heads of typically politically naive obidients that didn’t realize that Niger, Kogi and Kwara are part of their presumed NC/middle belt, and would always vote alongside the NW. The remaining 3 NC states would always be split across parties. Obi didn’t stand a chance in the NC from the word go.

Furthermore, due to his affiliation & sympathies for IPOB terrorists that he never failed to defend, Obi didn’t stand any chance in the NW & NE either. Ever wondered why he had no choice but to appoint fellow Igbos as Campaign coordinators in core Northern states like Sokoto etc.?

The only region that has been taught and re-taught an important existential lesson is the South East; that any candidate can do without S/Eastern votes and still successfully emerge President. In fact going forward, Presidential candidates might consider Eastern campaigns as an avoidable, unnecessary expense.

This has been proven TWICE by a Northerner (PMB) and now a THIRD time by a fellow Southerner…. and an added lesson about the futility of “nzogbu-nzogbu” politics; that it’s impossible to win Presidential elections without building bridges across the country, as some Obidients erroneously thought before the polls.

I doubt you are even a northerner. You are probably one Yoruba claiming to be from the Southwest.

But if you are truly from the north, then you are nothing but just another hegemonist.

First, APC had no choice but to concede its ticket to the south. Had Ahmed Lawan gotten it, who would have voted for him? He would have gotten votes in the Northeast and Northwest and then where else? Would Southwest have voted for Lawan? Would Kwara or Kogi have voted for Lawan? Don’t try to claim glory of APC zoning ticket to South; the party had no choice. Anything contrary would have been suicide.

And funny you, and your ilk, to think that you can win Nigerian presidency without Southeast. Goodluck to you, and those you would advise, with that. But I’ll leave you by telling you to add Atiku and Obi’s votes together and know what the result would have been had Obi not been in the race.

What you are doing is just lamentations. Northern hegemonists felt Obi was too disruptive to be allowed to win the election and that’s why they chose to rig the election for Tinubu, only for Tinubu to turn out being more disruptive than Obi ever promised.

Whatever you think in your head is non of my business. My happiness is that by the time Tinubu is done (if Obi doesn’t recover his mandate in court) a lot of things the north had exclusive preserve of must have been taken away from their mouth. Deal with that.