₦airaland Forum

Skyview01:
The dude is so annoying wahlai and does not realize campaign time is over.

Sometimes I wonder if they are being deliberate or that’s really their IQ level.

Parachoco:
The most important thing is that

Asiwaju is the President

And he will rule The Federal Republic Of Nigeria till 2031 when he will handover to a Northerner who will be an APC member

Pandora and his Fulani Master will never become the President Of Nigeria

Are you guys incapable of logic or is this what you could deduce from what is up there?

Opening Remark: Without Peter Obi in the 2023 Presidential Election, there wouldn’t have been a Tinubu Presidency. But do Tinubu supporters realize this?

More often than not, you hear some people blaming Peter Obi for contesting the 2023 presidential election; and by so doing, divided opposition and denied Atiku of victory.

Well, you cannot blame people who hold the above view because they have right to think what they want and to speak in favour of what think would have best served their interest.

But contrary to the people who think Obi was wrong to have contested the election, I think Obi was right to have participated and his participation was justified in all ramification, strategy and calculation. I’ll tell you why.

The 2023 Presidential Election was existential to three set of people. First, to southern Nigerians, second, to Southeastern Nigerians and lastly, to Nigerian Christians.

The election was existential to Southern Nigerians because there was a threat of the transition of power from one northerner to another northerner, i.e Atiku trying to succeed Buhari. I am not sure a lot of southerners understood the danger that that portended which was why they were supporting Atiku. The implication is that, had Atiku succeeded, the north would felt the have gotten the magic and formula to perpetuate themselves in power for as long as possible. I don’t think you understand me. Let me explain further. Atiku’s argument for contesting was that no one else can win the election for PDP except himself. And that PDP should rather think about winning election than following Party’s constitution on zoning. Had he won, in 8 years, another northerner, possibly Kwankwaso, will jump into APC and proffer same argument that only he can win election against PDP’s southern candidate - PDP would wanna go south after Atiku. Then he, the APC candidate, will probably go into alliance with Southwest again to dislodge the PDP candidate who is most likely going to come from either Southsouth or Southeast. The northern APC candidate is most likely to succeed. Then after his own 8 years, another northerner would have jumped into PDP to convince them that only a northerner can wrestle power from APC’s likely Southwest candidate. And that’s how the cycle would have continued. Atiku failed in this mission only because Obi pulled away from PDP and thereby put a wedge on that mission

Similarly, the election was existential to people of Southeast because after 8 years of Buhari’s southeast-excluding administration, it was imperative and existential that Igbos and southeasterners supported one of their own or a friend of theirs to power so they don’t suffer same fate they suffered under Buhari for another 8 years. Atiku knew this sentiment and that was what he wanted to capitalize on before Peter Obi pulled the rug off his feet. But takeaway Peter Obi and the Southeast and Southsouth would have voted Atiku. You might argue that the turnout may have been lesser but I still would have been enough to cover up Tinubu’s less than 2million vote difference.

Lastly, the 2023 presidential election was existential to Nigerian Christians who were not comfortable in having a transition from a Muslim president to another Muslim president. But was their fear misplaced? No. St. Augustine of Hippo who is regarded as one of the (Catholic) Church Fathers was the Catholic Bishop of Carthage in present day Tunisia. Then Tunisia was a Christian territory but today Tunisia is a Muslim country. Turkey is the birth place of Mary Mother of Jesus. But Turkey is a Muslim Country today. All these were through forced conversion. So, knowing histories like this, one would not blame Christians when they express some misgivings about the religious dimensions of some happenings in our society and political space. Our only solace is that the man who presently holds sway has never shown himself to be a religious fundamentalist.

Now, having background of the above, you would better appreciate it when you hear someone blame Obi for contesting the election.

You might want to find out if he’s a northern hegemonist who wanted power transitioned from a northerner to another northerner, or southeasterner who would have preferred a friend of Ndigbo in power even if the future implication of such occurrence was going to be dire (some people do not think beyond the now though), or is the person a Christian who would have preferred a balanced ticket winning the election and therefore blames Obi for causing the emergence of a Muslim Muslim presidency.

But if you ask me, I would tell you that of all the existentialisms that existed before the election, the one that was most essential was the existential threat that a transition from a northerner to another northerner would have portended to the generality of Southern Nigerians. I say this because since the Southeast is a microcosm of the macrocosm that is Southern Nigeria, it can sacrifice its subjective interest for the objective and altruistic interest of the entire south. In the end, what the Southeast is yearning for is the same thing that the entire south is yearning for - a restructured Nigeria, a Nigeria based on merit and not quota system, the addressing of the obvious imbalances that exists in the Nigerian polity which were designed to favour a particular section of the country, etc. If a southern President (irrespective of where he’s from) achieves this, the demands of the southeast must have been addressed by half or more.

Some people say why did Obi contest when he knew the odds were against him and that he cannot win, and I ask, were the odds really against him?

Obi was in pole position of winning 3 regions of Southeast, Southsouth and North Central. He was going to come close second in Southwest, and try to put up considerable outing in Northwest and Northeast which would have been enough to give him victory.

Believe me, the outcome of the election followed that trajectory but like Josef Stalin said, “those who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide everything”, those who counted the votes decided what they wanted and now we must leave the courts to review what was done.

But in the meantime, my verdict is that Obi was not wrong to have participated in the 2023 presidential election. Even if the result of that choice is a Tinubu presidency, I believe that is better than having a northerner succeed another northerner at the presidency.

Now, the north has been taught a valuable lesson - that they can’t do without the south and now every section of this country must respect the conventional zoning arrangement that ensures that every section of this country feels that they are part of the project that is called Nigeria.

Penguin is a bird of reason!!!

helinues:
Here we go, just because of politics, they wouldn't mind to create a dent history thread about their opponents, same thing hunting Peter Obi today.

I don't know if some of una no dey reason things through before rushing to post online. Those who attacked Gov Soludo unnecessary during the election would have the opportunity to vent their anger with no basis.

Hian

In the 48 Laws of Power, we are taught not to try to win an argument through argument but through demonstration.

Instead of this long talk, why not reel out Soludo’s achievements in the past one year for everyone to see.

And by that doing, you would have proven that those attacking him are simply being malicious instead of factual.

Can you do that, sir?

Mrhonesty:
No because a man who left the university with a 3rd class can't be compared to the Chicago State university 2nd class holder. Tinubu is a symbol himself.

Can I see the 3rd Class result of the Peter Obi you are talking about?

Because the Peter Obi I’m supporting graduated with Second Class.

And guess what, his certificates are not questionable and he didn’t gain admission as a female.

senatordave1:
Why do you talk like a novice? Is this the first time you are seeing name disparity? The female appeared in his transcript from southwest college not his CSU degree.he never submitted his transcript to inec and transcript is not a criteria.adekunle is his middle name not his surname.i gave you the instance of Ahmed and Muhammed buhari,you no dey hear word.forget this case,it's dead

Okay. We’ll see.

senatordave1:
Well,to a layman like you it wont make sense but that is how the law works.obi has failed to prove his case compared to 2015.theres no need beating about the bush.

Lol!

And Atiku?

He has no case too?

All the disparities and inconsistencies in name and sex still don’t matter?

zomby:
Emulate peter Obi? Are these people serious?
They want to emulate a lying machine, a crying loser, a local champion, an empty head with an iweka cricket accent and a big confused politician? Unbelievable.
You can’t go any lower than emulating a man that has absolutely no business leading a nation; a man that can’t see further than the top of his nose.

It must be very painful to you that no one is interested in emulating the urine-dispensing and drug trafficking old hag that you are supporting.

Not everyone has a criminal mind and is blinded by ethnicity that they can no longer differentiate between good and evil.

Samuelonyinye24:
And what did you do? The same way you dealt with Rivers and Ebonyi politicians right? Fools

Who in Rivers and Ebonyi was vocal against Obi in the degree that Chimaroke was🤔?

senatordave1:
Written or oral addresses are formalities,pure summary of everything parties in court want,a breakdown of all you have presented and your pleadings.nothing new.the truth is that the judges have formulated their judgment already if you pay close attention to what happened in court.each of the judges have a writing book where they write their findings whenever a witness is being examined or when lawyers are explaining matters,issues and evidences.when a new evidence is tendered,they only tag it and stop there.a case is decided purely or almost on what a petitioner presents.

No one said obi didn't present unit,ward or lga results.he tendered them but failed to expatiate, reference,analyse or point out their findings on them like they did on irev results,AWS etc.tge judges are not father Christmas and will not descend into the arena to assist you prove your case.you must prove your own case

The article you posted said Obi did not present form EC8A in court. Neither was any mention made of Obi’s presentation of Forms EC8B, EC8C and EC8D.

So, you need to pull the article down for being replete with lies and replace it with another one that captures the true happenings in court while you leave the judges to worry about what they will do with the evidence laid before them.

Meanwhile, saying that the judges have decided on their judgment while the case is still on is like saying that a Medical Doctor has decided what the sickness is while samples are still at the Laboratory.

Does that make sense?

senatordave1:
He is actually right.a inec documents are certified,irev is simply the online copy of the original which has been certified already.the problem here is that you are not listening or reading the case line by line being detailed.obi tendered form ec8a,ec8b etc but he never made reference to them, linked them or analysed them or gave life to them as he did to the irev.the prof was commissioned to look,tabulate,analyse only irev copies which is secondary evidence.he failed to compare them with the physical copies.why is there no analysis or tabulation of the physical copies? Probably because they did and tinubu still won.

Concerning shettima,apart from it purely being an internal affair of a party,the apex court clearly said shettima was never even guilty of double nomination and attacked pdp for trying to mislead them.
For the fct matter,obi abandoned it.in any case,the court I know will not rule otherwise

When they are done with presentation of evidences, there will be written address where LP will breathe more life into those documents.

You guys should stop telling lies and trying to deceive people about what is going on in court.

Your article said Obi didn’t present Form EC8A, and I showed you proof that he presented INEC certified form EC8A for all the polling units in all the states he’s contesting. He didn’t stop at that, he also presented forms EC8B, EC8C and EC8C so that the courts can look at them and determine if INEC’s final results necessarily follows from what happened at polling units.

Now, you are claiming those evidences were dumped in court.

Which one are you saying? That they were not presented at all or that life was not breathed into them?

GeneralPula:
But when the results came out otherwise, he didn’t call his supporters to the street to wreak havoc. He took the legal path and by that way, he was able to save his country from chaos.

“So we will encourage all of our politicians to learn from that example.

Would Obi have told his supporters to wreak havoc on street before?

Nigeria stood still for over 3 days waiting for his comment and command.

If Obi wanted to set Nigeria ablaze, he could have done it but he chose the path of peace.

I don’t expect you to agree, I expect you to continue to argue even if it doesn’t make sense.😏

One thing I always try to do is to read through articles and read in between lines so that I will get the full message and that’s what I did with this article.

Now reading through this, I saw where the writer made allusion to Adeleke vs Oyetola case where Supreme Court ruled that the BVAS, the Electoral Register and the Form EC8A are the primary sources of evidence of what happened at the elections.

Then he went on to claim that Obi was only able to present 18,088 blurred result sheets that was downloaded from IREV which is a False claim.

First, Obi presented INEC Certified Form EC8A for all the Polling Units for all the states he’s contesting its votes.

Again, he presented INEC Certified forms EC8B, EC8C and EC8D for all those states. I didn’t see him mention this the body of lies he called an article.

Then, the 18,088 blurred IREV results presented in court by LP is INEC certified, and not downloaded from IREV.

On 25% FCT, Justice Inyang Ekwo said that the reason for his decision was that the case was already before the Presidential Election Petition Court which is a higher court and therefore denies his court of jurisdiction. How does that mean that it was settled?

On Shettima’s Double Nomination, the Supreme Court called the PDP a meddlesome interloper because as of the time it instituted the case, it lacked the locus standi to do so but that changed after the election because fellow candidates in the election were now bestowed with locus. Again, PDP filed the case out of time.

I’m not here to say that Obi’s case is watertight or that the courts will declare him president, but spreading outright falsehoods as against the true happenings in court is a deliberate attempt to misinform the public and probably lay the ground for the Judiciary to give dubious judgment.

Hahahahaha!

Chimaroke is still crying 🤣🤣🤣

Still sulking like a baby.

I thought Tinubu Owambe boys told him there’s nothing we can do?

They told him to go on and insult us.

They cheered him on as he journeyed to his slaughter.

And now, like Orji Uzor Kalu, he can’t stop crying 🤣.

But there’s another who will soon join them in their infamous crying club.

His name is Charles Soludo.

Like Chimaroke, he has set sail on the road to slaughter.

And like they did to Chimaroke, Tinubu Owambe boys have been cheering him.

He forgets that when time comes, not even the entire battalion of the Nigerian Army can save him.

He can go ask Andy Uba who the detachment of the entire security but still came third.

All the unfortunate bridge builders have always ended up in tears.

Ogbonnaya Onu
Rochas Okorocha
Orji Uzor Kalu
Chukwuemeka Nwajiuba
Chimaroke Nnamani and many more.

And many more will still cry; it’s a matter of time.

Ndi ala!

orisa37:
PO HAS NOTHING TO OFFER NIGERIAN POLITICIANS. HE IS A HOOLIGAN.

That’s the chairman of Sierra Leone Electoral body.

It’s possible he was also in Nigeria during the elections as an observer and saw what happened. The manipulation, the violence and the dejection in people’s faces after their mandate was taken from them.

That’s a man of substance advising another group of men of substance to emulate a man of substance.

Have you ever seen anyone advising anyone to emulate Tinubu anywhere in the world?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry2AP9wVlR4

Is Obi now a global standard for politicians?

It’s obvious the world knows what happened with Nigerian election.

Abdulai Bangura, the chairman of the Political Parties Regulations Commission (PPRC) in Sierra Leone, has urged politicians in the country to conduct themselves peacefully by taking a cue from Nigeria’s Labour Party presidential candidate, Peter Obi.

Mr Bangura made this known at a press conference addressed by the Electoral Commission of Sierra Leone (ECSL), the Office of National Security (ONS) and the PPRC in Freetown Sunday afternoon.

The commission, PPRC and the ONS addressed the various concerns raised by stakeholders in the elections held on Saturday across the West African country as voters await the results of the polls.

PREMIUM TIMES reported that tallying of votes is ongoing across the different regions in the West African country.

The Obi Example

In the elections held earlier in the year in Nigeria, Bola Tinubu of the ruling All Progressives Congress garnered 8.79 million votes, putting him well ahead of main challenger Atiku Abubakar, who polled 6.98 million. Mr Obi of the Labour Party recorded 6.1 million votes, even as he surprised many by winning in both Lagos, Nigeria’s commercial powerhouse, and the federal capital, Abuja.

The election results are being challenged at the election petition tribunal in Nigeria.

Speaking about the essence of peaceful conduct among politicians as the election results are being awaited Sunday afternoon in Freetown, Mr Bangura urged Sierra Leone politicians to learn from Mr Obi and conduct themselves peacefully irrespective of the results. He explained that Mr Obi’s choice of peaceful resolution of election concerns should be emulated by politicians in Sierra Leone.

“I have always referred to Peter Obi when he lost (the) election; we all know the promise he held when the elections were being conducted,” he said.

“Almost everybody who is anything in Nigeria (threw their) support. But when the results came out otherwise, he didn’t call his supporters to the street to wreak havoc. He took the legal path and by that way, he was able to save his country from chaos.

“So we will encourage all of our politicians to learn from that example. Leadership is about self-restraint, and leadership is about selflessness. So we expect that our politicians will demonstrate this. The process has been peaceful so far so let us continue to be peaceful and promote the interest of our country.”

Contest

The election is considered a straight contest between the president and candidate of the Sierra Leone People’s Party (SLPP), Julius Bio, and Samura Kamara, the flagbearer of the All Peoples Congress (APC).

Other presidential candidates in the elections are Mohamed Chernoh of the National Democratic Alliance; Coker Prince, People’s Democratic Party; Jonjo Mohamed, Citizens Democratic Party; Kabuta Henry, United National Peoples Party; and Kakay Iye, Alliance Democratic Party.

Also on the ballot are Kamara Musa, Peace and Liberation Party; Margai Francis, People’s Movement For Democratic Change; Saccoh Dougakoro, Revolutionary United Front Party; Sandy Patrick, National Unity and Reconciliation Party; Sowa-Turay Mohamed, United Democratic Movement; and Williams Victor, Republic National Independent Party.

In addition to the presidential ballot, Sierra Leonean voters also elected members of parliament and local councillors in what will be the fifth election since the end of the country’s civil war, 21 years ago.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/606684-sierraleonedecides2023-emulate-nigerias-peter-obi-sierra-leone-party-regulations-chair-tells-politicians.html

softwareman:
Zik did not contest with Awolowo in d west, it was a parliamentary system. The Ibadan people's party were only in alliance with NCNC.
As usual, after the Yoruba candidates contested and won, zik wanted to reap where he did sow by sidelining the Yorubas in d NCNC and become the premier in d west.
Secondly, sanwoolu won the igbo- sponsored Yoruba bastard by over 400000 thousand votes. There are over 13000 polling units in Lagos, there are less than 100 violent incidents in the governorship election, so your assertion is false.
Please be assured that the well known Igbo agenda will never succeed in Lagos.

So Awolowo’s treachery is politics?

And violent issues, including murder, in about 100 polling units is non issue?

Kdon2:
We just don't want gbarebo o calm in our state. You can't gaslight us Mr.

Understood!

But why did you not also want Jimi Agbaje?🤔

softwareman:
You are the one calling it fear. The real word is CHECK MATING.
Why would anyone FALL FOR A RUSE YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE?
The political SHENANIGAN AND SUBTERGE of Igbo politics is as obvious and clear as SEVEN-UP.
Many Yorubas, starting from our forefathers are just TOO SMART FOR IT.
REFUSING TO BE YOUR FOOL DOES NOT MEAN I HATE YOU OR I FEAR YOU.
GET THIS SIMPLE FACT.

No. You don’t checkmate, you keep playing dirty.

From the time of Awolowo when Azikiwe’s party defeated him in Southwest and he had to play the ethnic card to get NCNC members to his side so he could get majority to win Premier…

To this time of Tinubu where you have to butcher people and send thugs to polling units to prevent anyone that looks Igbo from approaching the polling units. And even the Yorubas that voted still voted against you but had to manipulate the votes in order to retain Sanwolu.

That’s not Chess game, that’s not shrewdness, it’s sheer criminality; an act of cowardice perpetuated by the weak.

BabaRamota1980:
This Chinedu Rhodes Vivour is mischievous. Where is APC on that poster.

Chinedu will be next governor of Anambra

So who did it?

softwareman:
So what is wrong with a Yoruba aspiring to b a governor in Lagos to have SIZEABLE YORUBA SUPPORT?
Why is it that a governorship aspirant must depend on the votes of a group of people with a history of political rivalry and hostility towards his own people?
Yorubas in Lagos do not support any candidate 100 percent Hausas and other tribes in Lagos do not support any candidate 100 percent... EXCEPT THE IGBOS!! WHY?
To know why you need to go back to the history of Nigeria and do a critical analysis of the JANUARY 15TH 1966 COUP.
YES. THE JANUARY 15TH 1966 COUP.

So the fear of Igbos is they reason you have been rejecting and labeling your own brothers?

senatordave1:
What prove do you have that he colluded with inec? Are ebonyi people so unenlightened to vote lp and vote out umahi for a useless Linus okorie?

I wish you knew the level of hatred that Ebonyians have for Umahi.

But you don’t like listening to facts; you’d rather make illogical projections and predictions that are clearly antithetical to facts and realities on ground.

The only reason you guys rate Umahi is because of the Media wishy washy of pictures of Flyovers and Airports that he constructed.

But does Ebonyi need those flyovers?

Does Ebonyi need an airport?

He built flyovers worth billions of naira at junctions that don’t have 50 cars traffic a day but kept paying workers mutilated salary.

Umahi is smelling like shit in the nose of Ebonyi people but I don’t expect you to believe what I just said.

You can believe what you choose to.

victorDanladi:
Like the more stupid one IGBO played for OKOROCJA and JOE IGBOKWE...the stupid people went to the extent of renaming their son OKOROJAUSA and YORUBAKWE

An opposition writes a sponsored article and that’s what you are quoting as authority?

Why was the picture that was referred to not attached to the article?

Please can we see the picture?

Lol

May increase in price of electricity favour me and my family

I’m saying the prayer that Ronu people said we should be saying.

I’m sure if they go to NEPA office and shout “Yoruba Ronu”, their own price will be reduced.😏

Sharpsharp00123:
y not show us pictures of how obi called apc a Yoruba party n demonized ngige

Obi never did that.

If you insist, then show proof either in picture, audio, video or print.

I’ll wait.

Olachase:
it surprised me how you guys suddenly turn against all the Yorubas forget that 40% voted for ur Obi,

Well I hope by now those ones eyes go Don clear

Don't worry Obi is coming again 2027 by then you will resume ur Yoruba Christian's and Yoruba Muslims

Let me quickly correct you igbos vote alone can't put anybody on power sit

Buh vote without igbos can put anybody power on Sit Buhari proof it Tinubu also proof it what else 😁😁

Don’t spin nonsense!

How are we turning on all Yoruba?

You can see that I’m clear about my choice of words.

I kept saying “APC supporters”.

How is that turning against all Yorubas?

Jostoman:
That is the nonsense propaganda they always use against opposition candidate in lagos and those gullible Lagossians keep falling for the propaganda.

No. They don’t keep falling for it.

They didn’t fall for it in the last election.

That’s why they overwhelmingly voted Obi in the presidential election and voted GRV in the gubernatorial election despite the threats and intimidation.

It’s just that they still managed to announce Sanwolu through Tinubu’s entrenched criminal structure.

Olachase:
oga you are just here disturbing ur peace

Election is over
Sanwo Olu is now ur Govern
H.E Tinubu is now ur president

There is nothing you can do about that
Buh you are free to comit suicide 🤭🤭

Two illegitimate occupants.

Will they reap the fruit of their rigging? Only time will tell.

But just like every dynasty, this too shall fall.

Throwback:
The greatest disservice any Yoruba politician in Lagos can do to himself, is to embrace the blanket support of the Igbos.

Do this and your political career is toast.

Because Yorubas know that Igbos have an agenda of domination and control, since the days of Azikiwe before our independence.

Toast?

If you are confident about this, why did import thugs from all over Yoruba land into Lagos during the Last gubernatorial election?

If e sure for you why not allow a free and fair election let’s test your hypothesis?

Throwback:
Yes!

Jimi Agbaje also embraced blanket support from the Igbos who have been obsessed for many years with an Igbo agenda to decide who governs in Lagos State.

Funny enough, it is the same PDP that Igbos have now rejected, that they wanted to foist on Lagos State.

Infact, the Igbos proudly boasted of it like it was a disease they were going to afflict Lagos with just for the fun of it. They were eventually disgraced as always.

Igbos on this forum never hid their desire then that they (Igbos) will decide who governs in Lagos and not the Yorubas.

So Agbaje was rightly classified as the Igbo candidate for the Lagos Governorship.

The question is, why are Igbos obsessed with the determining who governs in Lagos?

Other non-Yoruba tribes resident in Lagos do not harbour this same obsession.

Igbos vote in Kano governorship election.

Igbos vote in Kaduna governorship election.

Igbos vote in Rivers governorship election.

Igbos vote in Akwa Ibom governorship election.

Igbos vote in Oyo governorship election. Etc.

Tell me why you think Igbos should not vote in Lagos governorship election.